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747 Upper Deck Door Question  
User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6372 times:

Hi all, I was under the impression that only -300 and -400 variants of the 747 had the larger upper deck door that is (although above) between Doors 1 and 2 and swings up (like on the wing exits of the 737 NG). However, I recently came across a picture of a KLM 742 SUD that had the larger upper deck door.

Could clarify all of this for me?
Thanks  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
-Will


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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5877 times:

I'm a little confused by your question. On the 742SUD, it basically has a -300/-400 "hump" put on the 742's fuselage. So, it in turn will have those larger doors. This for evacuation rules.

User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5880 times:

A few 747-200s were reconfigured to have the same upper deck as the 300. KLM and UTA did the conversion to a few of their airplanes. Initially, the 747-300 was going to be called 747-200SUD... but Boeing changed the designation to 300. Swissair was the first customer for the 300... No USA air carriers operated 747-300s...
xxx
There are not many differences between a 200 and a 300 (there are differences which came from different options offered by Boeing, but were available to any 200 or 300 when ordered).
xxx
Therefore, the 747-206SUD has the same upper deck doors as a 747-306.
Hoping this does it for you...
xxx
Happy contrails  Smile
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5809 times:

The SUD stands for "Stretched Upper Deck"

George



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User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5797 times:

Ahh, that all makes sense. Thanks everyone, and thanks again Skipper!
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy
-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
User currently onlineGordonsmall From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2001, 2121 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5793 times:

I think Japan Air Lines also ordered some 747-100's with the SUD, or maybe they could have been converted later - but either way they operated them. I believe also that these particular aircraft were SR (domestic) versions.

Regards,
Gordon.



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User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2391 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5722 times:

When Qantas introduced the Boeing 747-338 it was termed the 'EUD', or Extended Upper Deck', as 'SUD' is an acronym for 'Sudden Unexplained Death' in medical circles.

That's all correct btw Gordon.


User currently offlineJamesjoyce From Belgium, joined May 2004, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5231 times:

To B747skipper.

Actually, AmericaWest operated 747-300s. Don't know if they still do.

I beg to differ on the difference between the 200 and 300 as well because the engine-pylons, the engine-gondolas and the engines themselves differ quite greatly providing improved fuel-consumption and a superior range of the 300 over the 200. They also are less noisy, but what's in a name.

Greetings from Belgium


User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5153 times:
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Welcome back Skipper, we missed our resident 747 guru.

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17039 posts, RR: 66
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5139 times:

You need to check the date on that post  Big grin




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User currently offlineMeister808 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 973 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5131 times:

Y'all had me going there with the reference to The Skip'. Too bad it was a year ago.

-Meister



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User currently offlineJETSTAR From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4950 times:
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I thought it was to good to be true that Skipper was back on the board. What confuses me is that it shows on his post that he joined in Oct. 2004, so I assumed that he signed up again using his old username. But when I click on his name it shows name not registered.

Its to bad because he probably had the most knowledge of 747's than anyone else on Airliners.net

Does anyone know why he left the board.


User currently offlineAvioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4880 times:

James
The planes operated by HP were from Northwest/KLM and were not -300's.
I made beer cans and clocks out of one of them a few years ago.



One may educate the ignorance from the unknowing but stupid is forever. Boswell; ca: 1533
User currently offlineDon From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4819 times:

I know that this is a tech forum and I apologise in advance for this post but you may enjoy this.

You can apply the term SUD to some people too,

Single Ugly and Desperate

[Edited 2004-10-03 11:02:29]

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