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747 Upper Deck Door Question

SafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 16
Posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5115 times:

Hi all, I was under the impression that only -300 and -400 variants of the 747 had the larger upper deck door that is (although above) between Doors 1 and 2 and swings up (like on the wing exits of the 737 NG). However, I recently came across a picture of a KLM 742 SUD that had the larger upper deck door.

Could clarify all of this for me?
Thanks Smile/happy/getting dizzy
-Will

"She Flew For What We Stand For"

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Boeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4620 times:

I'm a little confused by your question. On the 742SUD, it basically has a -300/-400 "hump" put on the 742's fuselage. So, it in turn will have those larger doors. This for evacuation rules.

B747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4623 times:

A few 747-200s were reconfigured to have the same upper deck as the 300. KLM and UTA did the conversion to a few of their airplanes. Initially, the 747-300 was going to be called 747-200SUD... but Boeing changed the designation to 300. Swissair was the first customer for the 300... No USA air carriers operated 747-300s...
xxx
There are not many differences between a 200 and a 300 (there are differences which came from different options offered by Boeing, but were available to any 200 or 300 when ordered).
xxx
Therefore, the 747-206SUD has the same upper deck doors as a 747-306.
Hoping this does it for you...
xxx
Happy contrails Smile

(s) Skipper

BlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1868 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

The SUD stands for "Stretched Upper Deck"

George

They're not handing trophies out today

SafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4540 times:

Ahh, that all makes sense. Thanks everyone, and thanks again Skipper!
Smile/happy/getting dizzy

-Will

"She Flew For What We Stand For"

Gordonsmall From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2001, 1995 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4536 times:

I think Japan Air Lines also ordered some 747-100's with the SUD, or maybe they could have been converted later - but either way they operated them. I believe also that these particular aircraft were SR (domestic) versions.

Regards,
Gordon.

Statistically, people who have had the most birthdays tend to live the longest.

AJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2376 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4465 times:

When Qantas introduced the Boeing 747-338 it was termed the 'EUD', or Extended Upper Deck', as 'SUD' is an acronym for 'Sudden Unexplained Death' in medical circles.

That's all correct btw Gordon.

Jamesjoyce From Belgium, joined May 2004, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3974 times:

To B747skipper.

Actually, AmericaWest operated 747-300s. Don't know if they still do.

I beg to differ on the difference between the 200 and 300 as well because the engine-pylons, the engine-gondolas and the engines themselves differ quite greatly providing improved fuel-consumption and a superior range of the 300 over the 200. They also are less noisy, but what's in a name.

Greetings from Belgium

Jetstar From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 1523 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

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Welcome back Skipper, we missed our resident 747 guru.

Starlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15866 posts, RR: 66
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

You need to check the date on that post Big grin

"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots." - from Citadel by John Ringo

Meister808 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3874 times:

Y'all had me going there with the reference to The Skip'. Too bad it was a year ago.

-Meister

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JETSTAR From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 1523 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3693 times:

I thought it was to good to be true that Skipper was back on the board. What confuses me is that it shows on his post that he joined in Oct. 2004, so I assumed that he signed up again using his old username. But when I click on his name it shows name not registered.

Its to bad because he probably had the most knowledge of 747's than anyone else on Airliners.net

Does anyone know why he left the board.

Avioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3623 times:

James
The planes operated by HP were from Northwest/KLM and were not -300's.
I made beer cans and clocks out of one of them a few years ago.

One may educate the ignorance from the unknowing but stupid is forever. Boswell; ca: 1533

Don From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

I know that this is a tech forum and I apologise in advance for this post but you may enjoy this.

You can apply the term SUD to some people too,

Single Ugly and Desperate

[Edited 2004-10-03 11:02:29]

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