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A330 Vs. Dc-10-30 Fuelburn

Timdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3654 posts, RR: 78
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

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Hi All,

This question relates to the A330-300 and DC10-30 of e.g. Northwest.
1/What is the difference in fuel burn for the A330-300 vs the DC10-30's
that they replace ?
2/What is the max fuel capacity for both types ?
3/What is the fuel burn during take-off phase as against the fuelburn
during cruise ? for both types....

Thanks for any input
Tim

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Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1392 times:

As I calculate it:

----------------------------------DC-10-30----------A330-300
Fuel Capacity (liters)-------138720------------97530
Maximum Pax---------------380---------------440
MTOW---------------------259000------------233000
Range (Max Load)----------12000-------------10400

Liters per km---------------11.56--------------9.38
Liters Per pax/km-----------0.0304-------------0.0213
Per pax 100km-------------3.042105263--------2.131337413

Sorry for the dashes - the only way I can figure to tabulate here.

I know the maximum passenger numbers are a bit nuts but that's what I found as the maximum single class seating, although the A330 must have been calculated with 15" seat pitch.

But, assuming that is correct, the DC-10 will take 1 passenger 100 km on 3.04 litres of fuel. The A330 will take that passenger the same distance with only 2.13 liters - a 30% improvement.

If anyone has better numbers to use please do so - I did this rather in a hurry.

Charles

Timdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3654 posts, RR: 78
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1326 times:

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Thanks a lot Charles, that was really helpful!

Cheers
Tim

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ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1280 times:

Sorry for the dashes - the only way I can figure to tabulate here.

For future reference, use the "pre-typed language" HTML tags, and it will space the information however you want.

For example, [pre] [/pre], but obviously with < > instead of [ ] Big grin

Gigneil From United States, joined Nov 2002, 13883 posts, RR: 90
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

I think mytravel or some such Euro IT operator does in fact seat 440 in their A333.

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411A From United States, joined Nov 2001, 1595 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1182 times:

Am not at all surprised.
Caledonian operated TriStars with 396 seats (large L4/R4 door), when the maximum capacity allowed is 400 (demonstrated evacuation).

Brit operators have always packed 'em in, sardine style. Personally know of one Brit DC-3 operator (many years ago) who shoe-horned in 44 folks.

If they didn't know each other when then started the flight...they sure did when it finished.

The bucket & spade brigade don't care...cheap flights/accomodation is worth the price. And many times it is.