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User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 27
Posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1640 times:

I have just received my New Years Gift From my employer. 2 weeks severence pay. It seems I have been graced with another furlough.

It so much fun to be low on the seniority.

For any airline managment who may be reading this thread. Kiss my holiday chear Ass. Furlough someone after christmas. What the hell are you thinking !!!!!

As a pilot you are a comodity. You are employed only as long as you are needed, and not a second more. Airlines as employers fail to give a shit if you can't pay the rent next month.

So to Any airline managment who furloughed anybody after Christmas....GO FUCK YOURSELVES.

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User currently offlineAmbasaid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1551 times:

Sorry to hear about the furlough, as an European this concept is pretty new to me, can you explain the implications?

I know that the obvious one is that you are out of a job, but are you free to seek employment elsewhere, are you bonded, do you know how long the furlough will be for?

Finally what does your union think of this sort of action?


User currently offlineATRpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1547 times:

I double the "FUCK YOU" to management, just on principle!

Sorry to hear it JETPILOT.... don't know what else to say but I hope things shake out for you.

I also would like to express my condolences to the boys and girls at CCair.. They just furloughed the bottom 35. Damn Mesa... everytime they gobble up an airline its bad news.

User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1543 times:

I have no union protection until finished with my probationary period which is one year. I have been employed 8 months.

I wasn't actually furloughed. To use their term I was "terminated".

Upon further questioning of the chief pilot I found out that if you are furloughed then your time on furlough counts towards your probation. Meaning if I was furloughed for 4 months I would be off probation.

So it is the companies policy to terminate those pilots who are still on probation in order to make them complete another year when recalled.

I have no idea how long it will last. Honestly I give a rats ass less if they ever call me back.

Managment has given me such a distaste for this proffesion that it's sucked every last ounce of passion for flying profesionaly from my body. And everyone knows how much I enjoyed flying.

I'll find another profesion and hope my desire for flying returns some day. If not...Oh well.

User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6811 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1488 times:

I am really sorry to hear of the bad news.

I thought that pilots were in demand at the moment in the US. Am I wrong?

Anyway, hope your problem ceases to be, in the very near future.

User currently offlineDc10hound From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 463 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

There are old pilots, and stupid pilots, then there's JETPILOT.
Get lost.

"Eagles soar. But weasels never get sucked into jet intakes.."
User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5099 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

Sorry to hear that, JET.

Unfortunately, it's getting to be that way in most u.s. businesses. Even mine, tv news.

Two t.v. stations that I know of in the southern u.s. have "pulled the plug" on their news departments, terminating everyone. One place just did it last week, giving their employees 5 hours notice!

As employees (in any profession) we are just a commodity to be used and discarded when not needed.

Sad but true.

Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
User currently offlineRunway From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

Ho! Ho! Ho!

Carma's a bitch!  

User currently offlineTop Gun From Canada, joined May 1999, 101 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1399 times:

Give me a line at fwqc@hotmail.com JP I'll se what I can do.

User currently offlinePilot1113 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (15 years 4 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1366 times:


I'm sorry about your problem. You always seem to be getting the raw end of the deal.  

Have you given any thought to maybe 'starting over' again? I mean start with a regional carrier that has a flow through agreement (ie: American Eagle). Maybe that will pan out for you.

None of these firings were caused by any actions made by you; from what I understand it was all unfortunate circumstance. This may not bite you during the interview process. Also, you have many more hours than anyone being hired currently so that should help you.

You'll have to make some sacrafices here, but I really don't see any alternative here.

To make sure that you get the best possible chance at being hired, I'd talk to Doug Taylor (www.jetcareers.com) and see if he'll be willing to hand-carry your resume to the folks who'll be looking at them.

- Neil Harrison

P.S. DC10hound: Please keep your comments to yourself. Jetpilot has been through a lot and he needs to talk to someone about his loss. I sense that you don't know what he's going through and I applaud you for that. No one should ever go through the hell that Jetpilot has gone through.

User currently offlineJjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (15 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1323 times:


FedEx announced openings today for 500 pilots... Get an app in! HTTP://PILOT.FEDEX.COM. Sorry I couldn't tell you about it before the deal became public.



User currently offlineJjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (15 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1295 times:

Date: January 10, 2001

From: Bruce Cheever

Subject: Posting 01-01
To: All Pilots

Attached is Posting 01-01, which accounts for increased staffing needs due to the new contract with the U.S. Postal Service to provide air capacity for domestic transportation of certain postal services. The revenue flying associated with this agreement is expected to begin in the September 2001 bid month. Also, this posting reflects staffing needs due to aircraft deliveries and pilot retirements through FY02.

The posting is open as of the date of this memo and will close at 1800Z ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 25. There will be practice bids on Tuesday, Jan. 16, and Monday, Jan. 22.

We are posting primary vacancies for 243 widebody captains, 88 B-727 captains, 244 widebody first officers, 76 B-727 first officers, and 50 B-727 second officers. In addition, we plan to fill secondary vacancies in all seats.

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