S.p.a.s. From Liechtenstein, joined Mar 2001, 950 posts, RR: 3 Posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4602 times:
Today I was wondering what is (would be) your worse case scenario concearning emergencies or abnormal ops. What emergency would really raise your hair and make your shirts wet? Have you ever met her or only during simulator checks?
Futureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2561 posts, RR: 9 Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4578 times:
Running out of airspeed, altitude, ideas and money in the same day.....or just not being able to fly at all!
Kidding
Seriously, Im only a Cessna pilot so far so probably an engine failure and an electrical failure/fire in flight. Then all I can do is glide and have nobody to talk to!
Flyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4563 times:
I typically fly light singles. By far the situtation that would haunt my dreams the most would be an inflight engine fire and subsequent failure, in IFR, at night, over the mountains. But, luckily, I have enough common sense to not get myself into that kind of situation...
For the kind of flying I normally do (day VFR over the great plains), I'd say the worst situation that could happen would some kind of structural failure....I fly rental airplanes and you never know for sure that the person before you didn't exceed any airspeed or loading limitations. Hopefully there would be some sign of it...popped rivets, things bent that aren't supposed to be, etc.
Aside from that, I sure hope I never get an in-flight fire.
PW4084 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 291 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4537 times:
Sounds like the plot of a movie Cx flyboy!
Other than something with strong external factors such as a mid-air, I'd say:
Electrical Fire. This would be especially critical night/IMC because you face the prospect of recovering the aircraft with diminished capabilities assuming you are even able to troubleshoot/isolate the source of the fire. And with the sophistication of our modern aircraft, the electrical components and wiring seems like an achilles heel.
KYIPpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4515 times:
I fly Cessna 172's right now, and my biggest fear would be unexpected and severe icing while in flight. Also, a hydraulic brake failure on landing. I learned to fly on a runway that is 2,500 feet long, with a busy road at one end and buildings on the other. Now I fly at a much larger (KYIP) airport, so its not that big of a deal.
"It starts when you're always afraid; You step out of line, the man come and take you away" -Buffalo Springfield
CVG777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1251 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4498 times:
Only a C172 pilot right now, but....
IMC conditions and a spin. I have done it on a simulator, and its not fun.
Flykal From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 441 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4497 times:
Fuselage separation would have to be one of them (think Aloha 737, Hawaii), but really, anything that means ditching in the middle of nowhere. I guess you could also add bomb explosion and any sort of terrorist activity to that list.
Or how about a big large bird making impact with my side of the windscreen at 250kts. Gives both you and the bird a heck of a scare and can do some serious damage...!
Cheers,
Phil
[Edited 2003-11-06 04:17:46]
One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time
B747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4487 times:
Never have nightmares with a good old 747... the whale "can take it"...
xxx
Except one thing...
Having 12 female flight attendants (including all those considered females) with PMS.
How can these oil sheiks with 3 wives and 6 concubines take it... ???
Let me check my wife's calendar... !!!
xxx
Happy contrails
(s) Skipper
Chdmcmanus From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 374 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4470 times:
I agree with PW4084, an electrical fire is my worst enemy. I had an Engineer instructor once tell me; there are only 4 things in an airplane that will kill you BEFORE you know what's wrong, 1) Solid objects in front of the nose, 2) Explosive decompression 3) External structure fire, IE Wing fire, NOT engine fire, and 4) electrical fire in the cabin. Of the four checklist, "Electrical Fire of Unknown Origin" is definitely the worst to run, and when you ad Kapton flashover and FADEC / FMS / EHSI / EADI's to the picture, those free electrons really turn into a problem. The Electrics sim is usually our longest and most in depth sim because of this.
Sushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 16 Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4441 times:
Well Katanas have had the props fall off in flight before.
My worst fear in a Katana is to have the prop fall off and pull the engine out too. That way my CG would be all wack and I couldnt even glide.
Jetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4429 times:
For me, it would be either one or both (Gasp!): A total electrical failure in the weather at night or any type of inflight fire.
Skipper...
What a horrorific nightmare. I have a wife and three daughters. There were a few days each month when I begged our dispatcher to send me out of town on a trip. Blessed be the guy who invented Midol.
Actually though, even B747 drivers have to worry about something.
Okie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2346 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4415 times:
Geez
I thought something along the lines of an ex-wife showing up to do a Checkride.
Subzero From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 64 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4404 times:
Right now I only fly Archer's and 172's so I would have to say engine fire. Or if the wings fall off...
Illini_152 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4394 times:
Fire. Or structural failure. I've already had the electrical failure not IN IMC per-say, but it was solid undercast and fog from 1500' to the surface for 200 miles all around me. If we couldn't get the alternator reset (it did, and blew 3 more times en-route) it would have been handheld radio and GPS time.
Second biggest, next to fire in flight, was when I was flying our "modified" Cub that soloed from the front. 12 gal of avgas sitting on my lap between me an the engine was not a good feeling.
Happy contrails - I support B747Skipper and Jetguy
Wing From Turkey, joined Oct 2000, 1552 posts, RR: 25 Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4360 times:
"Except one thing...
Having 12 female flight attendants (including all those considered females) with PMS."
Said Skipper which made me remember while I was flying wet lease for Khalifa Airlines of Algeria,we had 2 day layovers in desert cities.In one of those flights when we came to the dispatch office we saw that we had 5 male attendants and a technician to take pictures of engine parameters during take off.So we spend 2 days in a crappy hotel in the middle of Sahara desert with a all male crew.Now that was a real nightmare.
B747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4371 times:
Now speaking seriously, yes, in-flight fire is probably the worst nightmare.
Think about the Saudi L-1011 tragedy at the old Riyhad airport...
xxx
I once had a cabin fire warning, with a cargo aircraft...
We were carying leather shoes made in Madras, India.
It had rained, the shoes were somewhat wet.
xxx
During flight, on the way to Milano, cabin fire warning...
There was some smoke... but no flames... smelled bad.
We made an emergency landing in Larnaca, Cyprus.
It was "spontaneous combustion" phenomenon.
xxx
Footnote... These shoes made in India, get to Milano...
No markings say "made in India" on them... yet excellent shoes.
In Milano, they put insoles with the print "made in Italy"...
Now you know where your expensive Italian $hoe$ come from.
xxx
Happy contrails
(s) Skipper
Rick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 52 Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4340 times:
Absolutely without a doubt... cabin / cargo fire at 30W...
I can deal with engine failure at 30W, or at V1... flapless landing... you name it. But a fire over the ocean, 2 hours from anywhere? That thought sends shivers down my spine.
I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
Gordonsmall From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2001, 1995 posts, RR: 24 Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4297 times:
Absolutely without a doubt... cabin / cargo fire at 30W...
I can deal with engine failure at 30W, or at V1... flapless landing... you name it. But a fire over the ocean, 2 hours from anywhere? That thought sends shivers down my spine.
Well put it this way Rick - even if you survive, the powers that be at EZY might not be overly impressed that you took the 737 out to 30W for a quick spin....
Regards,
Gordon.
Statistically, people who have had the most birthdays tend to live the longest.
Wing From Turkey, joined Oct 2000, 1552 posts, RR: 25 Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4300 times:
My biggest fear is actually somewhat different.Yes I don't want to have a serious in flight fire or any other serious mulfunctions but most of them can be dealt with(or supposed to).There is something nowadays which is I think the most serious threat against the passenger airplanes is:TERRORISM.
Either from inside(like bombs or hijackers)or from outside with SAM's.There are examples to both kinds .At least in an emergency you can fight to the last second to save the plane until the last piece stops flying.It would be worst nightmare to explode at FL 370 fall back to earth in pieces.I remember watching on Discovery channel about a terror attack to a passenger plane( Pan-Am over Lockerbie if I remember correctly)airplanes front section kept flying for some more time while the aft plunged into the earth.I just can't imagine sitting there trying to fly your airplane with no response from your flight controls.
Goboeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2630 posts, RR: 12 Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4229 times:
The worst thing that I can think of in the little planes I fly is structural failure. 3 of the 5 aerobatic planes I flew a few weeks ago (Avions Mudry Cap-10B) are currently grounded because cracks were found in the wooden spars. I'm not so sure that these aircraft were originally designed to a) takeoff and land on a hard surface runway in up to 10 kt crosswinds which put a large side-load on the landing gear b) pull 10Gs "accidentally" in the aerobatics practice box and be "inspected" by the maintenance people who probably figure if their lunchbox can sit on the wing while they're on break and nothing happens, everything's okay. Maybe the next time I have to fly one of the Crap-10s we'll just do some touch and gos!
Cx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6341 posts, RR: 56 Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4218 times:
GoBoeing,
I have also flown a CAP10, and one of the two we had at our school developed cracks. Eventually they replaced the wing at huge cost, rerigged everything and it flew great.
25 Goboeing: Cxflyboy, The one newer Cap that has metal spars is flying. I'm not sure about the one that's flying with wooden spars; maybe they didn't find any cra
26 C172Akula: I'd have to say my worst fear would be instructing in the 172 and realizing that the Taco Bell I had for lunch wants out! Talk about a case of........
28 Ben: Someone catching me while doing an MHC-Ops maneuver. Scary.. for them aswell as me.
29 Saintsman: No ones mentioned the dreaded microburst. Can you imagine being caught up in that?
30 S.p.a.s.: @PW4084 Sounds like the plot of a movie Cx flyboy! Actually I'm trying to launch myself on the script writing business and was out of ideas @Skipper..
31 Mandala499: Flying on a 30 year old Cessna402 with 3rd world maintenance standard is partly a nightmare in itself... My ultimate nightmare is a mid-air prop disin
32 Jetguy: Mandala499... I'll ask the obvious question - why do you ride on such a poorly maintained airplane? Jetguy
33 Mr.BA: Mandala499 How are you it's been sometime! I've always wanted to ask what Jetguy had just asked too... not quite safe to fly on those airplanes isn't
34 Jetguy: I've had a few days to think about it. Actually my worst fear would be a TAILSTRIKE ! ! ! (Just kidding)
36 Danielbk: In smaller planes I work on: (i.e. warriors, archers etc.) Something being caught on one of the control cables..
37 Kilavoud: Footnote... These shoes made in India, get to Milano... No markings say "made in India" on them... yet excellent shoes. In Milano, they put insoles wi
38 Mandala499: Jetguys&Mr.BA... There's one simple answer... "Welcome to Indonesia" The well maintained ones cost the same as a 732 on an ACMI lease per hour! This c
39 Pilotpip: My flight school has a training area that's littered with everything from students working on their private maneuvers to twins blasting around. My big
40 Liamksa: Selamat malam Mandala499, Apa kabar? Saya belajar sedikit bahasa Indonesia di sekolah. Saya harap menjadi penerbangan pada masa depan. That's about al
41 Mandala499: Rob... Not a bad try ! Keep the lingo and the dream up Mandala499
42 Dragogoalie: Hmm...pretty much as was said before, midair, any kind of fire. I still only fly warriors, but also at a busy flight school, so there are always plane
43 Pilotpip: What's worse is doing that 250nm cross country and getting about half way and realizing that that big lunch you had wasn't the best idea. No powerade
44 Fly727: Either flying the small metal or the big ones... fire and structural failure are my main concerns. RM
45 Sovietjet: Spas your idea is already taken. Remember the movie "Cast Away"? That's exactly what Cx_flyboy is afraid of.
46 Pilotpip: In all seriousness, that crash scene in "Castaway" made me physically ill. It looked a little too realistic for my tastes.
47 L-188: Not I pilot but I can take a guess..... Getting a call from me at 2 in the morning, to tell you that you have to fly to Adak, Alaska........and wheels
48 PW4084: L-188, here's the icing on yr 'Adak run' cake: You show up and look at the weather and then know you'll be flying the localizer with a 30 knot tailwin
49 L-188: And add this phrase to it too. "You are meeting the Coasties."
50 Mandala499: "Castaway" and "Alive" are two films that haunt me... I fly in remote areas and sometimes into remote and hostile terrain... My sister in law had a li
51 Ben: How about this one: Slagging off an Air Traffic Controller (or speculating on the size of her breasts) with a stuck PTT switch?? Oh no... the trauma.
52 Mandala499: Ben, Now my friend who's an ATCO in UK said it happened to her a few times! Mandala499
53 Victor Hotel: I currently only fly light a/c but probably the one thing I fear most is an in-flight electrical fire without and extinguisher, followed by an midair
54 BMAbound: Not intended as a joke, but not passing my medical for some reason would be just plain nasty... I still have much flying to do! =) Anyways, as far as
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