S.p.a.s. From Liechtenstein, joined Mar 2001, 957 posts, RR: 3 Posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4921 times:
Today I was wondering what is (would be) your worse case scenario concearning emergencies or abnormal ops. What emergency would really raise your hair and make your shirts wet? Have you ever met her or only during simulator checks?
Flyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4882 times:
I typically fly light singles. By far the situtation that would haunt my dreams the most would be an inflight engine fire and subsequent failure, in IFR, at night, over the mountains. But, luckily, I have enough common sense to not get myself into that kind of situation...
For the kind of flying I normally do (day VFR over the great plains), I'd say the worst situation that could happen would some kind of structural failure....I fly rental airplanes and you never know for sure that the person before you didn't exceed any airspeed or loading limitations. Hopefully there would be some sign of it...popped rivets, things bent that aren't supposed to be, etc.
Aside from that, I sure hope I never get an in-flight fire.
PW4084 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 291 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4856 times:
Sounds like the plot of a movie Cx flyboy!
Other than something with strong external factors such as a mid-air, I'd say:
Electrical Fire. This would be especially critical night/IMC because you face the prospect of recovering the aircraft with diminished capabilities assuming you are even able to troubleshoot/isolate the source of the fire. And with the sophistication of our modern aircraft, the electrical components and wiring seems like an achilles heel.
KYIPpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4834 times:
I fly Cessna 172's right now, and my biggest fear would be unexpected and severe icing while in flight. Also, a hydraulic brake failure on landing. I learned to fly on a runway that is 2,500 feet long, with a busy road at one end and buildings on the other. Now I fly at a much larger (KYIP) airport, so its not that big of a deal.
"It starts when you're always afraid; You step out of line, the man come and take you away" -Buffalo Springfield
Flykal From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 442 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4816 times:
Fuselage separation would have to be one of them (think Aloha 737, Hawaii), but really, anything that means ditching in the middle of nowhere. I guess you could also add bomb explosion and any sort of terrorist activity to that list.
Or how about a big large bird making impact with my side of the windscreen at 250kts. Gives both you and the bird a heck of a scare and can do some serious damage...!
[Edited 2003-11-06 04:17:46]
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B747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4806 times:
Never have nightmares with a good old 747... the whale "can take it"...
Except one thing...
Having 12 female flight attendants (including all those considered females) with PMS.
How can these oil sheiks with 3 wives and 6 concubines take it... ???
Let me check my wife's calendar... !!!
Chdmcmanus From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 374 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4789 times:
I agree with PW4084, an electrical fire is my worst enemy. I had an Engineer instructor once tell me; there are only 4 things in an airplane that will kill you BEFORE you know what's wrong, 1) Solid objects in front of the nose, 2) Explosive decompression 3) External structure fire, IE Wing fire, NOT engine fire, and 4) electrical fire in the cabin. Of the four checklist, "Electrical Fire of Unknown Origin" is definitely the worst to run, and when you ad Kapton flashover and FADEC / FMS / EHSI / EADI's to the picture, those free electrons really turn into a problem. The Electrics sim is usually our longest and most in depth sim because of this.
Sushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 15 Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4760 times:
Well Katanas have had the props fall off in flight before.
My worst fear in a Katana is to have the prop fall off and pull the engine out too. That way my CG would be all wack and I couldnt even glide.
Jetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4748 times:
For me, it would be either one or both (Gasp!): A total electrical failure in the weather at night or any type of inflight fire.
What a horrorific nightmare. I have a wife and three daughters. There were a few days each month when I begged our dispatcher to send me out of town on a trip. Blessed be the guy who invented Midol.
Actually though, even B747 drivers have to worry about something.
Illini_152 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4713 times:
Fire. Or structural failure. I've already had the electrical failure not IN IMC per-say, but it was solid undercast and fog from 1500' to the surface for 200 miles all around me. If we couldn't get the alternator reset (it did, and blew 3 more times en-route) it would have been handheld radio and GPS time.
Second biggest, next to fire in flight, was when I was flying our "modified" Cub that soloed from the front. 12 gal of avgas sitting on my lap between me an the engine was not a good feeling.
Happy contrails - I support B747Skipper and Jetguy
Wing From Turkey, joined Oct 2000, 1552 posts, RR: 24 Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4679 times:
"Except one thing...
Having 12 female flight attendants (including all those considered females) with PMS."
Said Skipper which made me remember while I was flying wet lease for Khalifa Airlines of Algeria,we had 2 day layovers in desert cities.In one of those flights when we came to the dispatch office we saw that we had 5 male attendants and a technician to take pictures of engine parameters during take off.So we spend 2 days in a crappy hotel in the middle of Sahara desert with a all male crew.Now that was a real nightmare.
B747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4690 times:
Now speaking seriously, yes, in-flight fire is probably the worst nightmare.
Think about the Saudi L-1011 tragedy at the old Riyhad airport...
I once had a cabin fire warning, with a cargo aircraft...
We were carying leather shoes made in Madras, India.
It had rained, the shoes were somewhat wet.
During flight, on the way to Milano, cabin fire warning...
There was some smoke... but no flames... smelled bad.
We made an emergency landing in Larnaca, Cyprus.
It was "spontaneous combustion" phenomenon.
Footnote... These shoes made in India, get to Milano...
No markings say "made in India" on them... yet excellent shoes.
In Milano, they put insoles with the print "made in Italy"...
Now you know where your expensive Italian $hoe$ come from.
Wing From Turkey, joined Oct 2000, 1552 posts, RR: 24 Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4619 times:
My biggest fear is actually somewhat different.Yes I don't want to have a serious in flight fire or any other serious mulfunctions but most of them can be dealt with(or supposed to).There is something nowadays which is I think the most serious threat against the passenger airplanes is:TERRORISM.
Either from inside(like bombs or hijackers)or from outside with SAM's.There are examples to both kinds .At least in an emergency you can fight to the last second to save the plane until the last piece stops flying.It would be worst nightmare to explode at FL 370 fall back to earth in pieces.I remember watching on Discovery channel about a terror attack to a passenger plane( Pan-Am over Lockerbie if I remember correctly)airplanes front section kept flying for some more time while the aft plunged into the earth.I just can't imagine sitting there trying to fly your airplane with no response from your flight controls.
Goboeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 15 Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4548 times:
The worst thing that I can think of in the little planes I fly is structural failure. 3 of the 5 aerobatic planes I flew a few weeks ago (Avions Mudry Cap-10B) are currently grounded because cracks were found in the wooden spars. I'm not so sure that these aircraft were originally designed to a) takeoff and land on a hard surface runway in up to 10 kt crosswinds which put a large side-load on the landing gear b) pull 10Gs "accidentally" in the aerobatics practice box and be "inspected" by the maintenance people who probably figure if their lunchbox can sit on the wing while they're on break and nothing happens, everything's okay. Maybe the next time I have to fly one of the Crap-10s we'll just do some touch and gos!