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User currently offlineSleekjet From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2048 posts, RR: 22
Posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

When, for instance, AA sends a 777 to the hangar at DFW for maintenance, is a pilot recruited to "drive" it there? How does the pilot feel about such an inconvienence?


II Cor. 4:17-18
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User currently offlineAvioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

There are a number of Maintenance Personnel qualified to taxi aircraft.


One may educate the ignorance from the unknowing but stupid is forever. Boswell; ca: 1533
User currently offlineAvioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

Actually, you might be surprised to find how many mechanics have commercial pilots' licenses in their wallets.
I was flying for ten years before I went to fixing (professionally).



One may educate the ignorance from the unknowing but stupid is forever. Boswell; ca: 1533
User currently offlineSleekjet From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2048 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

How cool must it feel for one of them to be in the captain's seat. Must be how I'd feel in an Indy car.


II Cor. 4:17-18
User currently offlineAvt007 From Canada, joined Jul 2000, 2132 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2463 times:

Typically the a/c would be towed-cheaper, easier, less potential for problems.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2449 times:

Well, at American Eagle, maintenance will taxi the aircraft from the gate to the hanger if needed...Why..? Because its not in the pilots contract. When I was up in BGR, and when Eagle took over from BEX, the Eagle flight crews would just leave the plane at the gate and MX would have to taxi if over to the hanger. The funny part about it was......The crews would then have to walk over to the hanger to get their car...!!!

It's also not as 'cool' as you would think it is. At a busy airport you have a lot going on around you and a lot to look out for....all the while operating a several million dollar piece of company asset.



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineErj-145mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 306 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

On the plus side, we get $1/hr premium for "run/taxi" qualification. That works out to about $2,080/yr, not exactly chicken feed, for driving an airplane around the airport. At IAH, the company uses mini super tugs to re-position the international ERJ arrivals from the customs ramp to the gate. They used to pay the crews 45 minutes for an international reposition, 30 minutes for a domestic repo.

User currently offlineAvioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

No premium at AA and I don't know any sane mechanic who'd want to tow anything to or from the DFW hanger between 0500 and 0200.


One may educate the ignorance from the unknowing but stupid is forever. Boswell; ca: 1533
User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2285 times:

HANGAR guys, not HANGER.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

And yes, mechanics will usually tow the bigger planes but some do taxi it over to maintenance with only one engine running.

FB05



Never Trust Your Fuel Gauge
User currently offlineAtlamt From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 240 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

We taxi all the time. With both engines running. A lot of repairs need an engine run to confirm a fix. If it calls for more than an idle run we taxi the plane to the run-up area where we can take the engines to takeoff power.

Most of the planes going to the hangar are towed by supertug if it's available.



Fwd to MCO and Placard
User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

At ORD towing aircraft from the terminal to the hanger is not allowed unless there is something preventing the aircraft from taxiing safely.

User currently offlineNKP S2 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1714 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2239 times:

---"At ORD towing aircraft from the terminal to the hanger is not allowed unless there is something preventing the aircraft from taxiing safely."

Same thing at CLT. We do lots and lots of it. Taxi rather than tow, unless the plane is mechanically unfit, due to the fact an active runway must be crossed and a slow moving plane under tow would screw up the fluidity of ground movements on taxiways in general.



User currently offlineB747Skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2249 times:

Oh, as pilots (hardly ever happens) we do not mind taxi airplanes for maintenance.
By being called from home or hotel to go to airport, we get credit for 3 hours flying.
With Aerolineas Argentinas we have two dozens of mechanics fully qualified to taxi airplanes.
We sometimes get these guys in simulators to qualify them to run the systems correctly.
Some can taxi all types, some can only do certain type of aircraft.
The only thing they cannot do is high speed runs on the runway - for that they need a pilot.
xxx
Happy contrails  Smile
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineE1FAIL From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2227 times:

On the plus side, we get $1/hr premium for "run/taxi" qualification.

Who do you work for ERJ?


User currently offlineE1FAIL From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2225 times:

Hey EMBQA, is there any way through here to E-Mail you?

User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3474 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

When, for instance, AA sends a 777 to the hangar at DFW for maintenance, is a pilot recruited to "drive" it there?

Normally, no. Requires a complete flight plan (same as an actual flight) for an AA pilot to taxi an AA aircraft.

How does the pilot feel about such an inconvienence?

Everybody is different. An AA pilot will be paid flight pay as if it was an actual flight [i.e. "out-to-in"] with a minimum 2 hours "call-out" pay if he is called out while on reserve status. For me the 2-hr. minimum makes the frustrating (SoCal traffic) trip to the airport only slightly less so.



*NO CARRIER* -- A Naval Aviator's worst nightmare!
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2174 times:

E1Fail......Why ask..? do we know each other....?


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3474 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Hey EMBQA, is there any way through here to E-Mail you?

Click on User Profile...
Under E-mail click on contact
That should open an airliners.net email program allowing you to type an email to the user while protecting the user's email address --seemed to work everytime I've used it.

If you see withheld then the answer to your question is... NO.



*NO CARRIER* -- A Naval Aviator's worst nightmare!
User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2120 times:

Once, while sitting reserve at a hotel in-domicile I got called out to do a high-speed taxi. It was the only "flying" I did that particular duty period.

The mechanics were qualified to taxi but this was a run down the runway up to eighty knots or so.



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineE1FAIL From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

E1Fail......Why ask..? do we know each other....?

Yea, I think so. I tried to send you an A-Net E-Mail (thanks AAR90).

Let me know if I guessed correctly and I will send you my E-Mail address the same way.


User currently offlineErj-145mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 306 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

"Username: E1FAIL
From United States, joined Dec 2002, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply: 13
Posted Wed Dec 3 2003 18:50:01 UTC+1 and read 139 times:
On the plus side, we get $1/hr premium for "run/taxi" qualification.

Who do you work for ERJ? "

ExpressJet




User currently offlineE1FAIL From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2027 times:

ERJ-145mech....

Ahh...

How are your negotiations going? You are in talking right?


User currently offlineErj-145mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 306 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1982 times:

We've taken care of the mundane stuff, got to the nitty gritty, management offered a rediculously low amount, we countered, they suggested that we take a break until after the holidays.

Management doesn't have a reason to come to a speedy conclusion, but after january, the retro will kick in.


User currently offlineE1FAIL From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1942 times:

"We've taken care of the mundane stuff, got to the nitty gritty, management offered a rediculously low amount, we countered, they suggested that we take a break until after the holidays.

Management doesn't have a reason to come to a speedy conclusion, but after january, the retro will kick in."


What is your top-out now? How long is the scale?

What were the proposals like?


User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1883 times:

Well at the airline I work for, the mechanics take off and fly the airplanes to the hangar...and then work on the engines WHILE they are running...in the air. Of course we don't fly too high during maintenance. Nobody wants to get hurt if we fall off the wing or something...

 Smile



User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 25, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

The only things going from terminal to hangar here are Air North planes. They have this funky loader thats rigged up for towing a/c for that last i seen. Sometimes they use this, and other times they just hop in fire up n engine and taxi over.


CanadianNorth

[Edited 2003-12-06 06:10:14]


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