Katekebo From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 712 posts, RR: 6 Posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4152 times:
Yesterday early morning when I arrived to Amsterdam from Brussels the weather was quite bad, with a lot of strong wind, heavy rain and turbulence. We flew in a Fokker 70 and it was one of the most "funny" landings I have ever experienced (after accumulating more than 1 million miles so far).
I noticed that flights on Fokker 70's were operating as scheduled, but flights on Boeing 737's were delayed. I did not find information about other aircraft types.
My questions are:
1) Is there a significant difference between airplane types and models regarding the maximum cross wind, wind velocity, and other bad weather conditions that the are authorized to take off and land in?
2) Generally speaking, can bigger / heavier aircraft operate in worse weather than smaller aircraft? Or can smaller aircraft like the F70 operate in worse weather than big planes because they are easier to control and more responsive?
3) Are the bad weather limits something determined by the airlines or by the authorities?
Mr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4113 times:
Just a side note too many a time I noticed that B737s made it down in severe weather and wind conditions but you'd see the likes of A330s, B767s, B777s, A340s diverting? Only the B747s and B734s made it down nicely!
Mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 7451 posts, RR: 77
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4084 times:
Well, in some place in this world... when bad weather comes in, the 737s made it, the 747s made it, the 757/767s made it, the 777s made it, the A300s and A310s made it... the A319s made it, the 320s made it, but the 321s are the only one left holding!
When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
Jetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4024 times:
When it comes to "bad weather" limitations, bigger isn't always better. Over the years, hundreds of people have been killed in windshear related accidents on one of the big factors in these type accidents is aircraft size. To put it simply, large, heavy aircraft are affected considerably more by windshear than smaller, lighter aircraft. It's high school physics - mass and inertia. Larger, heaver aircraft have more inertia to overcome which makes it harder for them to accelerate relative to the airmass that they are flying in. Light aircraft have less inertia to overcome plus they usually have the advantage of "instant" airflow over the wings when power is applied.
What this means is that large aircarrier type aircraft are more susceptible to windshear than smaller jets and light aircraft. In fact, I can't honestly remember any corporate jet ever being lost to windshear. Same thing applies to light aircraft. Not to say that it hasn't ever happened, it's just extremely rare.
Kellmark From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 698 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4018 times:
There are several factors involved here.
1. Low visibility issues. This is related to 3 factors. The airport facility and its capability, ILS, GPS or what it has for instrument landings. The aircraft and what it is equipped for, and the crew's qualifications. For example, for a CAT IIIA approach down to 600 foot visibility minimums, everything has to be qualified down to that level. If it is not, then the minimum visibility is raised accordingly. For example, if a Captain is new and has few hours on that particular type, then his minimums are raised. So each individual aircraft and flight may have a different situation. Some airlines also elect not to spend the money to get the best qualifications/lowest minimums. Its a business decision.
2. Then there are the wind conditions. Each aircraft type has a maximum demonstrated crosswind and limiting tailwind. Although usually landing in a headwind, the approach must meet those conditions. Also, many carriers, when there is turbulence, recommend additional speed adjustments on approach to compensate. All of this makes an approach more difficult, and individual crews may decide not to chance an approach depending on their comfort level even if they are within limits.