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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4585 times:

Hi folks,

I wonder if I can purchase a complete set of the B747-400 aircraft manual? I am very interested in everything from manuals describing the FMC operations to operation charts (Assumed air temp charts, fuel burn, take-off distance required, flaps 10/20 performance charts, tires limiting speed... etc) with different kind of engines - everything that has got to do with operating a B744.

I heard that these can be bought somewhere but I wonder if it's still on sale after 9/11?

Thanks!

alvin


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User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4530 times:

The only way I think that you could get one today would be if you bought a B747-400 or if you are a pilot.

User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4518 times:

That's why till today I'll ask pilots if there are anything they have in spare that they could give me... sometimes if I'm lucky I would be able to get some stuff  Smile


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User currently offlineSlamclick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4497 times:

Last time I priced the AFM for another type airliner was about ten years ago. They wanted $5,500 USD per copy.




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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6034 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4482 times:

Considering that you're likely to get a visit by the police these days, just for inquiring about Flight Simulator software, don't be surprised if you find your door being knocked down & 30 police officers entering the room  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineGordonsmall From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2001, 2162 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4467 times:

Despite what some security obsessed people might tell you if you go to http://www.esscoaircraft.com you can order the training, performance and procedures manuals for just about any commercial aircraft you want.

They'll screw you for the shipping if you're outside the US and they're not original manuals, just reproductions of major airline/manufacturer manuals but they're good enough for an enthusiast.

Regards,
Gordon



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User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4432 times:

Sometimes when lucky You will find parts of manuals, maybe even a complete one on e-bay. I already saw some articles there.

Regarding the security warnings above:
You didn't get this information from me and this discussion had never existed!
 Laugh out loud



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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6034 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4420 times:

Now now, Nudelhirsch, you won't be visited by the police - just the GSG9 or BKA  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4415 times:

Actually the GSG9 has the HQ just half an hour from here...so now this is the point I tell everyone I was flying to Japan, when I'm actually boarding a plane to Paraguay...
don't tell anyone...



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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4379 times:

Thanks for the replies guys..  Smile. I'll keep any transaction secret.  Laugh out loud

Gordonsmall,

I noticed there's a NW B744 operations manual at the website you gave me. It might be reproduced but does it include all information and charts especially? I realy don't mind it being reproduced but I hope the information are genuine that's all.

Thanks guys!



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User currently offlineWoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1050 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4360 times:

What you get when you order from Essco Aircraft depends on which manual you happen to get.

I purchased a 767 ops manual because I was simming with 767PIC in FS2002, and I got only Volume I of the Ops manual which was just operational and reference info, limitations, normal, non-normal procedures, and systems descriptions and a section that did describe the FMC and the VAB-ology and button pushing required. But it was missing Volume 2 which has performance information that it seems like you are looking for with the 747.

I also ordered a 737-200 manual because I am looking at getting a type-rating at some point and wanted to get a head start at aircraft systems. The 737 manual did come with both volumes 1 and 2, so I did have performance charts, but only with the JT8D engines not the CFM56 engines.
The manual was very specific at what were airline limitations and what were Boeing limitations, sometimes the limitations are different.

Since aircraft/engine combos are specific to each airline, the NW747-400 manual you are looking at probably won't have the info you are looking for in terms of performance for every engine combination possible with a 747-400. It will have only what Northwest operates and Northwest Airlines procedures. But then again you might only get a volume I... since the FMC calculates everything for you...

I think the only way to find out is to call to see exactly what comes for the price...

Woodreau / KMVL





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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4303 times:

Thanks Woodreau... I'll check it out. Smile Cheers!


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