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User currently offlineFightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2271 times:

The standart procedure is an approach from the north. Why do 95 per cent of the aircraft use ILS 14 and only very few ILS 16?

And what exactly is the difference between a "side step" and a "swing over"?

I need that for a piece of work...


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User currently offlineA3xx900 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2243 times:

Doesn't it have something to do with flying into German airspace or so?

Why is 10 afraid of 7? Because 7 8 9.
User currently offlineFightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2195 times:

They are not allowed to land from the north in the morning because of the germans...

What I'm asking is why do they land more on RWY 14 than on RWY 16. I found out it's because of the Glide Slope signal of the ILS 16 not being reliable. Why is that? Does noone know?

And Side step and Swing over?

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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

I have NO idea of what I'm talking about, but as a guess from the use of the language:

A Swing Over would be a change from one direction to another, such as Zurich's ILS 14 approach and swinging over to runway 16 about 30 seconds before touchdown. In a swing over, there is only one change in direction.

A Side Step would be a switch between 2 parallel runways, where you use an ILS of, say 18R and jump over to 18L once you've sighted the field. In this manoevre, there would be two changes in direction - turning towards the 2nd glidepath and then turning onto it, so I guess this would be a little trickier than a swingover.

Like I said, I have no idea, but the language seems to make sense.


User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2132 times:

Landings are done on runway 14 (ISO runway 16) in ZRH primarily so as not to disrupt takeoffs on runway 28.
It actually works rather well.

User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2407 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

I concur with 411A, the reason 14 is used is to have 28 and also 16 for takeoffs only. If you look at the taxiway pattern at LSZH you will find that 14 is constructed as a landing-only runway with taxiways leaving it at its southern end, close to the terminal, but no taxiways leading to it. That is different for rwy 16.

However, they occasionally use rwy 16 for landings as well, but never use rwy 14 for takeoffs

Source: a Swissair pilot told me this 4 years ago.

User currently offlineFightingfalcon From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2100 times:

They do use the Side Step in Zurich, it's called "ILS 16 Side Step Approach RWY 14", meaning it's first a ILS approach with ILS 16 and then a visual Side Step to 14. I have the Chart for that approach. I just wasn't sure if a Swing Over's the same. But from what I hear, I don't think so. But I've read somewhere that they're doing that at ZRH too...

Doesn't really matter...


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