EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4000 times:
No.....the Thrust Reversers are controlled off the Main Wheel Squat switches, so they will not activate until the mains are firmly on the ground. As for the nose wheel, you get enough lift off the elevators to softly control the nose wheel dropping.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
Contact_tower From Norway, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3990 times:
Kinda depends on how much "umf" they put out before the nose hits mother earth, in idle the effect ain't that great, and it takes a while to spool up the engines again.
It's not a uncommon sight, were I work we get a lot of dodgy braiking action during the winter months, and during such conditions the pilots of medium to large jets are "hot" on the reverse.
Bio15 From Colombia, joined Mar 2001, 1089 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3802 times:
No.....the Thrust Reversers are controlled off the Main Wheel Squat switches, so they will not activate until the mains are firmly on the ground.
EMBQA sorry but that is an incorrect statement for some aircraft. The Tu-154 can activate the thrust reversers while in flight. A more popular aircraft, the DC-8 can also do so. The two inner reversers can be used while descending to help slow down the aircraft since it has no in flight spoilers.
Wing From Turkey, joined Oct 2000, 1571 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3792 times:
The nose actually flies until there is sufficent amount of lift generated over the elevator surfaces.In wing mounted engines you can deploy TR's,it will delay until 2-3 seconds and during this time you already put the nose down while in tail mounted engines its recomended to put the nose down first before using the TR to prevent reverser buckets contact the ground.Still either wing or tail mounted its better to put the nose down as soon as possible.
FDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3436 times:
>>>If I'm not full of hot air, I believe that some of the Airbus family uses the radio altimeter to inhibit/allow TR use close to the ground. ??<<<
No your not full of hot air. Most modern airliners utilize the radio altimeter system as a redundancy to wheel spin-up to deploy the thrust reversers.
Here's why. Most later model aircraft utilize main wheel spin-up as a primary "on ground" signal allowing the thrust reverser to be deployed. But certain scenarios could potentially nullify this from happening. For instance, severe hydroplaning can prevent the wheels from spinning up potentially preventing the t/r's from deploying.
The reverse thrust system use's the radio altimeter as an alternate method of determining "ground" mode to deal with the contingency of ice or water on the runway preventing wheel spin-up.
The radio altimeter "trip" height is very low, 7 feet on the MD11 for instance. This height roughly commensurates with actual radio height with the main gear struts extended touching the ground.
The radio altimeter is also used by the auto-spoiler system for the same reason.
NightFlyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 95 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3500 times:
Another tid-bit on the MD11. The #1 and #3 engines are available for reverse thrust after the mains spin up and the reversers are fully deployed. The #2 reverser will deploy but will not spool up until the nose wheel is on the ground.