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Avoiding Canadian Airspace  
User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2422 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1523 times:

Listening to airband yesterday morning, a pilot from America West flight 66 (LAS-BOS) told the center controller: "We want to make sure that on this heading we'll avoid Canadian airspace."

What's the reason for this? Over-flight charges?

[Edited 2004-01-25 13:18:59]


Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
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User currently offlineRadarbeam From Canada, joined Mar 2002, 1310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

Probably, Nav Canada fees can be quite expensive!

User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1472 times:

Canada is a pretty hostile and barbaric country and the flight crew probably didn't want to risk their passengers lives in case of a forced landing. Some cities here don't even have a Starbucks!

Seriously though, there is always the spectre of exposing yourself and your passengers to the laws of the country you fly over. Someone who is a law abiding citizen in the US may be a wanted outlaw in a foreign country subject to arrest and deportation to their country of birth.

If this sounds incredible, just read about the plight of Canadian citizen Maher Arar who was deported to Syria by US authorities.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-canada-us-deportation,0,412159.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

Even things as subtle as local state (or provincial) liquor laws change as you cross borders.



User currently offlineJetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1514 times:

I would only assume that it would have to do with the navigation fees charged by Nav Canada for commercial flights. We operate mostly under FAR Part 91 and transit Canadian airspace on a routine basis on many of our trips into parts of Northern New England. The handoffs and handling are completely routine with only minor differences in phraseology.

Jetguy


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