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A320 Series Trans-atlantic Flights  
User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3249 times:

are nonstop flights possible between in the A320 series of aircraft? more specifically, i'm looking to see if the A319CJ could do so, and if it would be possible for an A318 to do the same. i know that diamler-chrysler does fly between detroit and stuttgart.

one other question, would installation of the fuel tank in the forward cargo bin be possible on the A318 as it is done on the A319CJ?


"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
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User currently offlineQantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3221 times:

For a typical trans-atlantic flight (JFK-LHR [approx. 5600 km.], for example) flight, the 318/319/320/321 all could not make it with a full load...however, with a somewhat reduced load and perhaps an auxiliary fuel tank or two, they could certainly make it. The ACJ can make it unaltered.

Cheers,
QantasA332


User currently offlineLeviticus From New Zealand, joined Oct 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

Lufthansa have an A319 jet called PrivateAir, configured all business class it flies daily between DUS and NYC, so it is possible but I don't know if it is modified in some way, maybe LHs website have some answers.

User currently offlineGoboeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2714 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3188 times:

Leviticus,
That Lufthansa flight is a B-737 BBJ type plane.

Nick


User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3144 times:

not only, as privatair operates both the A319CJ and the 737BJ. i've heard of both flying the route.


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User currently offlineLHSebi From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 1049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3062 times:

Privatair is actually an independent charter company (based in Switzerland, I believe), that uses both A320s and B737s for the daily DUS-Newark flight. I don't know for how long this has been going on, but privatair also does a non-stop DUS-ORD all-business flight (on behalf of LH). The pic below is actually the privatair flight taking off from DUS going to ORD. Excuse the bad quality. This is clearly the A320. They alternate the 737s and 320s for the Newark and ORD flights.

Sebastian




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User currently offlineUTA_flyingHIGH From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3068 times:

I beg to differ a bit.
The above plane is not an A320, rather an A319CJ (notice the single overwing exits).
PrivatAir is based in GVA, Switzerland and operate everything from broomsticks to SST's.

UTA



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User currently offlineUTA_flyingHIGH From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3057 times:

Okay, no broomsticks Big grin


PrivatAir fleet :
Boeing 757-200
Airbus A319LR
Airbus A319
Boeing 737-700 BBJ
Boeing 737-300
Canadair Challenger 600/601/604
Cessna Citation Encore/II/III/X
Dassault Falcon 900B
Gulfstream IISP/III/IV/IVSp
BAe Hawker 125-700/800
Learjet 55/60
Beech KingAir 200
Nimbus 3000

UTA





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User currently offlineLHSebi From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 1049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

Sorry, by A320 I was referring to the 320 series (ie: 319/320/321), as I was not sure which exact ones are flown.

Sebastian



I guess that's what happens in the end, you start thinking about the beginning.
User currently offlineJetmek319 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 199 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3019 times:

When we (Frontier) ferry our A319's/A318's out of Hamburg (HAM) we go non-stop to Bangor, Maine to clear customs. We can go to Boston but not much further. This is with full fuel, max of 25 pax, and no additional fuel tanks.


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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2957 times:

AF are flying a 319LR(not their own aircraft)from CDG to Pointe-Noire,Congo(-Brazzaville).About an 8 hour flight with max capacity of 82 afaik.

User currently offline744rules From Belgium, joined Mar 2002, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

The Privatair 319 has additional fueltanks, the size/volume of 3 akh. This reduces the holdspace in such way, that stowing probs might occur on full flights (= 48pax)

User currently offlinePilatusguy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2881 times:

More infos see: http://www.privatair.com

User currently offlineSLCPilot From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 591 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

OK, so what's a Nimbus 3000? The Privatair website doesn't seem to mention it....

Thanks in advance!

SLCPilot



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21495 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2791 times:

SLCPilot: OK, so what's a Nimbus 3000? The Privatair website doesn't seem to mention it....

I was already wondering if there was a long range version... But the passengers might find it slightly uncomfortable for long haul...  Big thumbs up


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