US A333 PIT From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 310 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1107 times:
A friend of mine is looking to buy a midsized corporate jet for his business. Currently he is considering the Citation Excel, the Learjet 60 and 45, and the older Citation VII and III's. The problem, however, is that he wants a plane that can take him safely nonstop to and from Hawaii from the west coast (2000+nm) as he doesnt' want to pay the money for a larger longer ranged jet (Citation X, Challenger, Falcon, Hawker, Gulfstream, etc...). I've read that the ranges on the first set of aircraft I've listed are about 2000nm. So what I'm trying to ask is are there any midsized or even smaller business jets that have the range to go safely from San Francisco to Honolulu? Can the Lear 60's or 45's or Citation VII/III/Excels do it? I'd appreciate any info on this problem. Thanks a lot.
Jetguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1007 times:
Citation Xs are way too expensive. We fly our Astra SPs and SPX from KLMT to PHNL with no problems whatsoever. Plenty of range and very good speed. The Astras are definitely the "most bang for the buck". E-mail me directly if you have any questions: firstname.lastname@example.org
XFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4105 posts, RR: 38 Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 954 times:
I too have heard alot of good things about the Avro. The Lear 45 can make it to Hawaii cant it, too? Maybe there is a way to get some extended range tanks. You would have to drop your payload..but you would be able to get out there nonetheless.
Citation501sp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 205 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 933 times:
Jetguy has it, In the midsize class the Astra is about as good as it gets for range, and speed and its cheap to operate. About $800.00 per hour. The company I work for is looking at getting an Astra SPX, it might not be the prettiest airplane but it will outrange just about anyone else out there in the mid-size class.
Beech_bum From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 921 times:
Take a walk inside/outside one of the FBO's on the South Ramp of HNL or OGG and you will see just about every Business jet in the sky parked there. Ask around etc..
Have you guys thought about a fractional ownership? Like Flex jet, Raytheon or Bombardier's programs? You can use the smaller jets, even a king air on short trips stateside then grab one of the bad boys for the trips over water. Always a new bird and no ownership hassles.