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User currently offlineYousef727 From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 22 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2815 times:

I have a simple question.

I've noticed that most aircraft carry the last letters of their registrations on the nose gear door. Anybody know why? Is it to help identification on the ground? And is there any particular reason for not writing the complete registration?

Thanx in advance  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Yousef


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User currently offlineCdfmxtech From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1338 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2734 times:

Usually, those numbers are used by the company to identify the aircraft. For instance, aircraft N57101 will be identified as Aircraft 101.

User currently offlineFredT From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 2185 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2695 times:

" Is it to help identification on the ground?"

Yes.

"And is there any particular reason for not writing the complete registration?"

Yes again. With the size restrictions imposed by the area available, you would have to be rather close to read the number had it been painted there in full.

Cheers,
Fred



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User currently offlinePhollingsworth From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 825 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2665 times:

There is also the case when the fleet number doesn't match the actual registration at all. For instance many DL aircraft (777s?).

User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3466 posts, RR: 47
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

There is also the case when the fleet number doesn't match the actual registration at all.

AA uses three character alpha-numeric fleet numbering system which hasn't matched acft registration numbers for a long time now.



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User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2369 times:

For instance many DL aircraft (777s?).

Delta ship 333 is N334DL.



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User currently offlineCOAB767 From Guam, joined Nov 2003, 1377 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

on NW aircraft they match the first 3 numbers of the registration
on CO aircraft they match the last 3 numbers of the registration
here are some examples

062=N76062
5528=N528US
008=N78008
1235=N235US

these are just some examples.



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User currently offlineKerberos From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2287 times:

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Does anyone know what the significance of the 007 is? Its not in the reg #.

BTW, long time lurker, first time poster. I've learned alot from this forum, hopefully I can contribute something sometime.



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User currently offlineWilco From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

kerberos... the thread already established that not all airlines use any form of the a/c reg on the gear door. some use company a/c numbers which are probably in a rough order of delivery...

the aircraft below has a nose gear door number "005" and the a/c reg is
C-GLWS

NOTE that the a/c also has the same identifier painted in the very top of the tail.

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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2258 times:

98% of AirTran's 717s registrations are N9__AT, but the nose numbers start with 7__

User currently offlineNz1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2250 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2251 times:
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At Air NZ the last 1 or 2 letters of the registration are painted on the door. This is a CAA requirement to allow easy identification on the ground.

User currently offlineKerberos From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2231 times:

Wilco - Thanks, I realized that after I posted  Smile - not sure yet how to go back and edit.




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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17002 posts, RR: 67
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

Kerberos, welcome to the forums! You can only edit within a certain number of extra posts and/or time. At least that's what empirical evidence tells me.

I always thought that the reg was there so that A.nutters could know what they were flying  Big grin



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User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2205 times:

LH usually has the last two letters of the registration on the nose gear doors (and the tip of the V-Stab), the first three being "D-AI" for Airbus and "D-AB" for Boeing, The Canadairs have "D-AC" afaik, and the Avro's "D-AV"

SailorOrion


User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3730 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

An NW DC-9 Captain explained to me once that there is a logic to the "tail numbers" of most of their DC-9s:

DC-9-10s will have 91XX
DC-9-30s will have 99XX
DC-9-40s will have 97XX
DC-9-50s will have 98XX

On top of that, I think that their DC-10s all are 1XXX, like COAB767 said about N235US (1235) & N234US (which I was on in 2000....1234  Big grin)

DeltaRules



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User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

Kerberos, to answer your question, Westjet displays the Fleet Identification Numner on both the nose gear door and top of the vertical stabilzer.

An interesting note about Westjet is that you will never see a FIN# ending in the number 4. This is apparently a result of a few superstitious management that used to work for other airlines that had bad experiences (crash/incidents) with aircraft with 4's in their FIN#'s.

BTW, that James Bond logo has since been removed.

Andy



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User currently offlineKerberos From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

Andy - Thank you for the information, that's interesting about the number 4. I'm sure there are alot of superstitions in the airline industry when it comes to Reg #'s, flt #, etc - but thats a topic for another thread.

To bad they removed the JB logo, I guess I can stop looking for it now!

Peter



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User currently offlineJustplanesmart From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 718 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2030 times:

I had noticed that Westjet skips the digit 4 in their fleet #'s, but I did not know why. Thanks for the info, Dripstick. Many Chinese carriers skip 4 as well, because the Chinese word for "4" sounds like the word for "death."


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User currently offline320tech From Turks and Caicos Islands, joined May 2004, 491 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1901 times:

Fin numbers are assigned by the airline for their own purposes. Air Canada uses 200 series numbers for its A320's and A319's, 100 series for the CRJ's, and so on. When AC picked up Cdn Airlines' 737's (which were 700 series), they changed all the numbers to 500 series to avoid confusion with DC-9's, which were also 700 series. Of course, all the DC-9's are retired now. The 737's will be gone by the end of the year.


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