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User currently offlineJMV From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 241 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7734 times:

I've wondered about this for some time now. How do the 737-800 and 737-900 stack up against the 707s with regard to passenger loads and range? At first glance, they seem to be comparable from a size perspective. Just curious if these particular '37s have the same range as the '07.


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User currently offlineLjungdahl From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 908 posts, RR: 36
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7598 times:

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User currently offlineJMV From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 241 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7561 times:

Aw, that's no fun. I was hoping to read all sorts of stuff from the aviation pundits on this site!  Smile


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User currently offlineCayman From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7515 times:

So based on that data the 707-120s were only 6 feet longer than the 738s? That seems about right---but were there not some longer stretched 707 types--nothing as long as some of the super stretch DC8s obviously but based o that picture of the 707-120B in the dimensions window it seems like a "shorter" 707.

User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7484 times:

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User currently offlineJMV From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 241 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7394 times:

Some interesting figures from the above links:

707-120B
Length: 144ft 6in
Passengers (2 class config): 110

707-320B
Length: 152ft 11in
Passengers (2 class config): 147

737-800
Length: 129ft 6in
Passengers (2 class config): 162

737-900
Length: 138ft 2in
Passengers (2 class config) 177

Is it any wonder we often feel like sardines on aircraft today?



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User currently offlineSpyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7337 times:

Well this is slightly off topic, but when I was flying an Air Canada Zip 737-200, instead of the windowshade having the 737 logo mounted on top of the handle, it contained the 707 logo. Seems to me at least the windowshades between these aircraft are easily transferrable!

User currently offlineAV757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7292 times:

You bet they all have the samme passenger windows on the following Boeings listed below:
707, 720, 727, 737 and 757.
Remember all of these share the same common passenger section of the fuselage.

Regards:
AV757


User currently offlineUltrapig From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 590 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7248 times:

Gentlemen:

Is the fuseclage dimension of the 737 and the 707 the same?

How about the 757 and 737-

When I go into a 757 it appears larger and the cargo area looks larger- or is this simply because its higher off the ground. I know the width is the same in all three.


User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6537 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7231 times:

Performance wise the B-738 and B-720 (not 720B) are practically identical.

Practically
- same cabin floor area
- same range.

The 738 is a little slower, but uses less than half the fuel and generates only a small fraction of the 720-noise.



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User currently offlineAvioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7143 times:

The 757 is an entirely different design.
The 707, 727, &737 fuselage share the same base dimensions. Even the base part number for the radome is the same.
However, the technology used in construction is markedly different. Fuselage components (stringers, wing mounts, and other structural components) are not interchangable between the various models of the aircraft and not even in 737 iterations.
The bolt-ons are very much the same items hence the window shades and other accessories. There are different fire qualifications and other things but essentially, if the part would bolt into a 707 it will probably bolt into a 737NG (seats, sidewalls, bins, lavs, galleys, etc.)



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User currently offlineJMV From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 241 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 7044 times:

I've got to state, I was surprised to learn that this topic was moved over to this forum. Considering aviation is a hobby for me, I didn't expect anything I posted would be considered so high-brow that it would make the Tech/Ops forum.  Smile

Thanks for the follow-up. As wonderful an aircraft the '37 has been over the decades, there is just something special about the lines of the '07 with those four sleek engines hanging from wing. (Hope that wasn't too technical for you guys.)  Big grin



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User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7024 times:

Interesting to compare the various Boeing aircraft, however the B707-320B (advanced) aircraft had a maximum seating capacity of 189 (or with extra exits installed, 215) and with a fuel capacity in excess of 23,000 USGallons, was capable of flights of 12 hours.
A true long range aircraft.


User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7008 times:
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The exterior cross section of the 707, 720, 727, 737, and 757 fuselage is 148in/3.78m

The interior cross section of the 737 all models is listed at 139.2in/3.54m. The 707, 720, and 757 is listed as 139.3in/3.54m. The 727 is listed as 140in/3.56m.

The height of the cabin varies because of the trim and OHB.

The cargo compartments are not all that different in height, at least in the fwd compartment. The fwd cargo compartment in the 707/720 is shown as 44.3in/1.13m, 727 and 757 44in/1.12m, and the 737 as 44.2in/1.12m. The rear cargo compartment isn't listed for the 707/720, the 737 is listed at 46.8in/1/19m, the 727 at 54in/1.37m, and the 757 53.9in/1.37m


User currently offlineWing From Turkey, joined Oct 2000, 1575 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6915 times:

As I am not qualified to talk about the 707(not even flew one also) I can't compare the two.But to compare passenger/load you have to find the operation cost /pax.I think with its newer design and efficent engines 737 NG provides better profit to the operator.

Talking about sardines you should see all economy configuration of 737800 which can accomodate 189 Y class passengers.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29832 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6793 times:

A flight school that advertises in the back of Flying Magazine many years ago had a photo of one of their airplanes taxing past a 737-300 parked in the background.

This school, just to judge how effective their add was, had a second engine airbrushed onto the right wing, the 737 being in 3/4 view.

Apparently the magazine was flooded with letters trying to find out the ID of that aircraft type. Big grin

A lot of people thought it might have been a 707 without the HF antenna and retrofitted with CFM's.



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