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Origin Of Boarding At L-1?  
User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22737 posts, RR: 20
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3586 times:

Why do airlines almost as a rule board at Door L-1? Was there a time when boarding varied by airport? It's obvious that different airliners did board at different places in the past, but was there a time when, say, 737s would board on the left side at some airports and the right side at others? It seems like there is significant standardization now as ATRs are about the only aircraft in commercial service today that routinely board somewhere other than the left front of the cabin.



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User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3700 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3559 times:
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Which side are the cargo doors on?

The right so it is not practical to have pax steps or jetty's getting in the way of baggage trollies and toilet trucks etc


User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2789 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3397 times:

I always see cargo loaded on the right side of the aircraft. Also, keep in mind that some aircraft, like the 757 and 764, often board from L2.

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6281 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3346 times:

This same question was asked in Airliners magazine within the past year. Perhpas someone with time could find the answer? It's in the "Ask Airliners" section.

I wish I could find the correct issue.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22737 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3186 times:

VC-10- I was looking for the origin of loading cargo on the right and passengers on the left. There has got to be some historical cause.


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User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3185 times:

Not trying to be a wise guy but the cargo doors are on the right.


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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3184 times:

well, i just saw a EMB-145 that had to be de-planed on the right because the main door jammed. mx had it open and working in a few but it still created an interesting situation for pax. one guy came up to me afterwards and said that he had never done that before...


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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6281 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3140 times:

Am I really going to have to find my back issue of airliners then? The complete answer is there, surely someone has it easily handy. I don't.


Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
User currently offline411A From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1826 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

If we look back many years, there was not really any standardized boarding procedure.
Many DC-3's had the pax entry door on the RH side, as did many CV240's.

As aircraft got bigger, and cargo loading took longer...and longer (belly cargo is profitable), the standardized way pax were boarded was thru L1, to keep them away from aircraft service vehicles. In addition, single point refueling is many times carried out on the RH side.
On TriStar aircraft, oftentimes boarding was also carried out thru L3 as well.
A300 aircraft will oftentimes deplane thru both L1 and L4 at the same time.
In addition, at many airports (especially older airports), jetway availability and location dictate boarding procedures.


User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3081 times:

on USAir's shuttle boarding in done via the L1 door while deplaining is done bia both the L1 and L2 doors.



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User currently offlineBaw2198 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 637 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

FDXmech

If you look at USA jet's dc9's, their cargo door is on the left, as is....oh, can't think of it now but there is an outfit that flies Convair 580's and their cargo door is on the left (one of the detroit autopart haulers).

(I thought you guys were talking cargo, I got you now)

Didn't one of the old Fokker biplanes back in the 1920's board on the right side? Maybe some of the sikorski's as well?


edit: left out info.

[Edited 2004-05-26 05:32:33]


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User currently offlineAuae From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 296 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2934 times:

As far as origin, that is a good question. I am wondering if it has something to do with tradition. Don't ships usually load on the left side as well? Many early aircraft builders / designers had ship building experience.

It is a tradition that goes back a long way, a lot of old pics show airstairs on the left.

Shawn



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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6281 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

Baw2198, all freighter main deck cargo doors are on the left.

Guess I'd better dig out the old Airliners magazines.



Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
User currently offlineCospn From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2794 times:

SO We Ramp People can be in the Shade in the Afternoon Sun..AM is not as Bad..

User currently offlineDl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2695 times:
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Starboard and port. As hoary as it may sound I think this is the answer. Maritime tradition led the way to aviation standardization.


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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13968 posts, RR: 63
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2692 times:

Boarding an aircraft from the left goes actualy back to the early days of military flying. Many of the first military pilots were former cavalery soldiers. From which side do you mount a horse? From the left. This stuck to the early military planes as well, and later was taken over by the civilian industry as well.

Jan


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