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Landing Gear Knocking Sound In Airbuses  
User currently offlineOD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10814 times:

I've recently flown onboard the A330-200 and A321, and in both aircraft, a loud knocking noise was heard everytime the landing gears are deployed before landing. I've heard that many times. What is this noise from?

I've flown the 777 also, and i'm sure there's no such noise...

OD-BWH



A300, A319, A320, A321, A332, A333, A343, A346, A388, B734, B738, B744, B772, B773, F70, MD11
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User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 807 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10745 times:

im guessing that noise you hear is when they locked into place when fully extended. you will tend to hear this knock on any aircraft that has retractable gears. you will also hear that knock as the retact as well. i guess some are louder than others. i guessing someone here will elaborate on the technical side of it.


You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10731 times:

Well, I've noticed this in every plane I've flown and I made this conclusion:

The smaller the airplane, the stronger the knock.

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 807 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10729 times:


Well, I've noticed this in every plane I've flown and I made this conclusion:

The smaller the airplane, the stronger the knock.


probably because the smaller the plane, the closer you are to the landing gear.



You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offlineBuckfifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10671 times:

That's just the noise of the oleos hitting the stops as the gear is fully extended.

User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10597 times:

When your sitting right above the gear wells, it sounds like the dam things breaking off!

Very loud on the A332, scared me sh*tless at one point!



One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineA/c train From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 501 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10568 times:

Buckfifty, can you elaborate on that, it doesnt sound right or ''healthy'' to me. Could be wrong though

User currently offlineAir2gxs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 10548 times:

The oleos are already at full extension when the enter the gear well. Thus, when the gear is extended there should be no noise from shock strut (oleo) extension. There is a small variety of things you may be hearing. I'm no Airbus expert (worked Boeings and Douglas most of my career), but I suspect you're hearing the doors closing after the gear extension cycle is complete. You may also be hearing the gear locking mechanism going over-center, but I doubt it.

User currently offlineWirelock From Spain, joined Sep 2007, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 10160 times:

Oleos are pressurized so the are always at full extend unless with aircraft weight on them. done a few functional tests of the A320 LDG in my time. from looking at this from the outside the things that make noise are the sound of the over centre locks engaging, doors closing. sometimes the PTU will kick in so maybe you are hearing this

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31702 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10081 times:

From your description it looks most likely like the Uplocks releasing mechanical sound.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10013 times:

Quoting Air2gxs (Reply 7):
The oleos are already at full extension when the enter the gear well.



Quoting Air2gxs (Reply 7):
Oleos are pressurized so the are always at full extend unless with aircraft weight on them.

There are a (very) few airliners that can retract the oleos prior to stowage for space reasons...I seem to remember the A340 center post does this.

Tom.


User currently offlineJetMech From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 2699 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9990 times:

Quoting Air2gxs (Reply 7):
The oleos are already at full extension when the enter the gear well. Thus, when the gear is extended there should be no noise from shock strut (oleo) extension.



Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 10):
There are a (very) few airliners that can retract the oleos prior to stowage for space reasons

The A330 / A340 has a gear shortening mechanism on the wing gears. The external crank mechanism for this can be seen just ahead of the rear wing landing gear trunnion point in this photo.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l118/Jet-Mech/IMG_0824.jpg

What you both say is true however. The pressurised nitrogen and landing gear fluid are housed in a "shock cartridge" that is free to slide up and down inside the main landing gear casting. Thus, when the A330 / A340 wing landing gear retracts, the crank pulls the sliding shock cartridge into the main landing gear casting via a mechanical linkage internal to the landing gear casting. The sliding shock catridge in turn pulls the inner cylinder, bogie beam and hence wheel and brake assemblies towards the main gear casting as well. The end effect is a physical shortening of the wing landing gear.

The internal mechanism is so arranged that upon extension of the wing gear, an overcentre lock is formed inside and against the wing gear main casting upon full lengthening of the gear. This overcentre mechanism locks the sliding shock cartridge inside the main gear casting, and allows it to take the landing shock as well as the weight of the aircraft.

Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 10):
I seem to remember the A340 center post does this.

I not too sure about this one. I am quite cetrain that the A342 / A343 centre post does not shorten. I am reasonably sure that this is the same case with the A345 / A346 centre gear as well.



One point of interest seems to be that all Airbus oleos are of the double chamber design, which supposedly gives smoother absorption of landing shocks.

Regards, JetMech



JetMech split the back of his pants. He can feel the wind in his hair.
User currently offlineReidYYZ From Kyrgyzstan, joined Sep 2005, 536 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9899 times:

Quoting JetMech (Reply 11):
centre post does not shorten

You are corrrect. As you know, but I will explain for those who don't, the wing gear for both A330/340 shorten because it is the same gear for both aircraft. It has to shorten due to the lost space where the ctr gear stows on a A340 but be long enough for ground clearance for A330 larger engines. Jean Dixon predicts: But the A330 has no center gear? Again, correct, but the big empty space is still there.


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