Kgin11 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 61 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 12726 times:
What is the best case for aircraft utilization for modern airlines excluding maintenance schedules (A, B, C, check)? That is, realistically speaking, how often can a plane be kept in continued use if the market allowed for continuous operation. In particular, I am wondering about shorter-haul aircraft who have more cycles than long-haul?
Avioniker From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1109 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12648 times:
Well the first airline that comes to mind is First Air Canada
They fly their 727 combi's with seats all day and haul freight at night. They have a -200 built at PEMCO DHN in 1995 that has an infinitly variable passenger/freight configuration that used to fly Montreal - Yellowknife during the day and Montreal - Ottawa - Wilmington at night
Their ground people could pull the seats and install the rollers in under an hour and vice versa...
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320tech From Turks and Caicos Islands, joined May 2004, 491 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12633 times:
727 combis? Air Canada? That must have been a few years ago, eh? AC hasn't been flying 727's for some time. I didn't think they were in service as late at 1995.
I know Air Ontario used to fly their Dash-8's as combis - pax during the day, and freight at night. I think they got about 12 - 16 hours of flying per day out of the things. I don't know how much of the fleet was used this way.
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Phollingsworth From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 825 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 12476 times:
18-20 hrs a day are about the best you can get out of a passenger airliner. This is driven by turnaround times, and the overwhelming desire of most passengers not to depart between 1-5:30 AM. As the shorter the block time, the lower your utilization will be. This is true even with short turn-arounds.
FlyingColours From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2315 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12376 times:
Apparently Astraeus have the most utilised 737-700's, there was an article in Airliner World a few months back that was "A week in the life of an AEU 737", a really intresting read and boy they do work those planes hard.
Most of the charter airlines in the UK really utilise their aircraft, the MYT 757s have more hours than their older DC-10 sisters. Charter aircraft almost always seem to be on the move, probably because aircraft don't make money on the ground and the charter industry is a "cut-throat" buisness over here.
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Rick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 12251 times:
Charter airlines manage about 17 hours a day utilisation (excluding maintenance downtime) on their aircraft during the summer months.
I remember flying a 767-300 back from the Dominican Republic once which had been playing catchup all week after a bad weather delay in Florida, looking through the log the aircraft had been on the ground only 5 hours in the last 48, average utlitisation of about 21.5 hours a day.
I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
SunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 5225 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 12192 times:
According to their web site ANZ get an average of 14.8hrs/day from their 747-400's and 15.8hrs/day from their 767-300ER's.
How this matches other operators with long stage lengths I don't know but I would imagine that this utilisation is in the top 15%.