N62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3681 posts, RR: 4 Posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2767 times:
I've seen some very young 763 Captains and some older M80 First Officers on AA flights I've taken and was wondering what the progression is for a pilot. Does it go:
First Officer:
M80
738
757/767
A300
777
Then as Captain:
M80
738
757/767
A300
777
Or is the A300 at the top of the lists because it carries the most pax?
AAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3410 posts, RR: 50 Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2727 times:
Your list is appropriate if the only consideration is pay. For most younger pilots that may be true, but as you age your priorities tend to change. AA pilots have historically placed (1) Quality-of-Life (monthly schedule & home location) and (2) Retirement at a much higher level than pay rates. While there was a "blurp" in that historical perspective during the early 1990's [when the new group of "progressives" took control of APA], the historical priorities have been gradually re-emerging as that group has aged as well.
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PPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2721 times:
It should be a bidding process to get upgraded and moved among the various types.
Bruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5027 posts, RR: 17 Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2518 times:
I know this is a little off-topic for AA but I have seen some older grey-haired gents flying CRJ's for Comair. I thought that mostly the young "kids" fly the CRJs you know, as an entry level type of commercial pilot. Especially since the pay is so low.
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Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22053 posts, RR: 51 Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2467 times:
Not 100% familiar with AA, however some airlines like Continental and United have contract that lump together several types of aircraft for pay purposes.
At CO, 737-300/500 is one type, 737NG/MD-80/B757-200 is another, while the 757-300/767-200/400/777 is the third.
At UA, the 737/A320 is one, the 757/767 is another, while the 777 and 747-400 are the third.
By lumping together and reducing types of equipment for pay purposes the desire to keep swapping to a larger and larger aircraft in ones career is reduced. For instace at both CO and UA, you would really only have two upwards steps to take versus and airline that pays differently for each aircraft they own.
This ultimately saves the airline million of dollars in reduced training cycles.
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Infiniti757 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 92 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2420 times:
A lot of the older commuter captains I've met or know are ex-mainline or guys that just liked commuter flying. As for pay some of the guys I know are making around $100k per year at one of the larger commuters. At somepoint in your career progression it becomes more about quality of life than anything else.
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Futureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2561 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2366 times:
My uncle curfrently flies for AA as a 757/767 Capt. and is in his late 40's. His progression went:
First Officer, MD-80
Captain MD-80
Captain 757/767
I believe it has to do with wether the pilot wants to become one of the more senior FO's and go to larger aircraft type as an FO, or wait as an FO on smaller aircraft then move up after a few years, as my uncle did.
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