Socalatc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2371 times:
To be a controller now you have to go through the CTI program, part of the courses you have to take private pilot and instrument ground school, but you don't have to actually get the licenses. But at least they have an understanding how things work... I work with a few guys who are former pilots now are controllers... Me and one other have their ATP's and both continue to fly, and a few others have their PPL's.. However, there are some who don't have a CLUE how a airplane flies or works.. Kinda funny... We do have to get a medical, but you can be half way in your grave and still get a medical from some of these doctors..
NWA ARJ From United States of America, joined May 2001, 547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2326 times:
No you dont have to have a pilot certificate to be an air traffic controller. I am currently at UND and every ATC person has to get some flight experience. You can either take a survey of flight class or get your PPL. I got mine becuase I thought it would be cool. And yes you do have to get a medical to be a controller and from what I hear it is like a 2nd class medical.
Nightmare 68, Fargo Tower, Runway 36, Fly Runway Heading, Mantain 10,000, Cleared For Takeoff, Change To Departure
ATCisgreat From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 103 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2165 times:
I don't know about the US but with Eurocontrol, where I work, all you need is a finished school degree (I have the german Abitur for example) . Then of course you have to pass the testing including medicals and there you go! They teach you everything. No pre-knowledge needed (except for flawless english). We have to pass exams on aerodynamics, flight instruments and aircraft performance among many others. Our age limit is 25 for applicants and 27 for those with experience in aviation. I think the reason for that is as well taking into account the training and education time of up to 4 years that your learning skills are the better the younger. But a lot of my colleagues are actually flying, some on PPL some even on CPL with a small company. So whenever there is a question I know who to ask. We even have 2 former Sabena pilots that now finished training as ATC. Whenever I fly, I try to get into the cockpit but that has been made very difficult since 9.11. It is a shame though because it is taking away possibilities to meet the people that you are working with every day and discuss with them.
I wonder if ATC guys are like "Man I bet those pilots have never done ATC before!" - yes, sometimes we are!
Baw2198 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 637 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2059 times:
CCBC (comm. coll. beaver county)(alma mater) Expensive. I went there and it was $315 per credit hour if you were from out-of-state. $26 a credit hour if you lived in beaver county and also resided in the state of PA.
The flying wasn't cheap there either. $75 an hour for a PA28-161!!
Find a flying club and do it that way, its cheaper and you don't have to fight the whole atc program for flight time. It also saves you from having to take a couple of classes.
"And remember, Keep your stick on the ice"--->Red Green
Portcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1616 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2056 times:
Thanks for the info baw.
I'm doing the training here in Columbus along with all my Gen. ed. courses, so I can skip an entire semester there and save a little money. I'm still on a waitlist, hopefully I get a letter soon, I'm itching to get started.