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User currently offlineSaab340 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 320 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

Does the Faa require its trainees for ATC to be certified at least as a private pilot?

Thanks
Paul

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User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4200 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2189 times:

Nope..most of them dont have a clue how to fly an airplane haha.


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User currently offlineWoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1042 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

They have to get a medical certificate I think.




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User currently offlineDinker225 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1063 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2165 times:

Yes you do need a medical certificate. As far as I know it has to be a class 2 as well.


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User currently offlineVidens From Argentina, joined Mar 2004, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

What about training to become an ATC? How the hell do you get there? That's always been very puzzling to me...


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User currently offlineDalMd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2555 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

You get accepted into the FAA training center in Oklahoma. The entrance test is very competitive. If you graduate they offer you a job.

User currently offlineWoodreau From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1042 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

You have to be hired before you are 30 in order to be a terminal or enroute air traffic controller. Once you reach 30, you can only be a flight service specialist.

it's an old page... but it tells where to get ATC training.

http://www.faa.gov/careers/employment/atc.htm

There is a community college in Minnesota which also trains you to be an air traffic controller.

Otherwise the military is the other way.

Woodreau / KMVL



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User currently offlineKYIPpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

I have met a controller who has been ATC for 15 years, and had never ever flown on an airplane, big or small. His first flight was actually about 6 months ago in a C-172.


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User currently offlineSocalatc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 527 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2098 times:

To be a controller now you have to go through the CTI program, part of the courses you have to take private pilot and instrument ground school, but you don't have to actually get the licenses. But at least they have an understanding how things work... I work with a few guys who are former pilots now are controllers... Me and one other have their ATP's and both continue to fly, and a few others have their PPL's.. However, there are some who don't have a CLUE how a airplane flies or works.. Kinda funny... We do have to get a medical, but you can be half way in your grave and still get a medical from some of these doctors..

User currently offlineNWA ARJ From United States of America, joined May 2001, 547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

No you dont have to have a pilot certificate to be an air traffic controller. I am currently at UND and every ATC person has to get some flight experience. You can either take a survey of flight class or get your PPL. I got mine becuase I thought it would be cool. And yes you do have to get a medical to be a controller and from what I hear it is like a 2nd class medical.


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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8271 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

The FAA requires controllers and supervisors maintain a 2nd class medical certificate. Upper management don't need one.


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User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5057 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1957 times:

I am curious, why the age 30 limit for terminal ATC? And, what does a Flight Service Specialist do?

bruce



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User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

I'm guessing because after 30, you're not going to learn demanding skills like ATC as sharp as you would in your twenties. It's one of those weird FAA things, I guess.

I wonder if ATC guys are like "Man I bet those pilots have never done ATC before!"



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User currently offlineATCisgreat From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 103 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

I don't know about the US but with Eurocontrol, where I work, all you need is a finished school degree (I have the german Abitur for example) . Then of course you have to pass the testing including medicals and there you go! They teach you everything. No pre-knowledge needed (except for flawless english). We have to pass exams on aerodynamics, flight instruments and aircraft performance among many others. Our age limit is 25 for applicants and 27 for those with experience in aviation. I think the reason for that is as well taking into account the training and education time of up to 4 years that your learning skills are the better the younger. But a lot of my colleagues are actually flying, some on PPL some even on CPL with a small company. So whenever there is a question I know who to ask. We even have 2 former Sabena pilots that now finished training as ATC. Whenever I fly, I try to get into the cockpit but that has been made very difficult since 9.11. It is a shame though because it is taking away possibilities to meet the people that you are working with every day and discuss with them.

I wonder if ATC guys are like "Man I bet those pilots have never done ATC before!" - yes, sometimes we are!  Laugh out loud



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User currently offlineATM From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

Bruce:

The 30 year age limit exist because of the retirement system that controllers are involved in. Actually I think the age limit is 32. This allows them to retire by the age of 55 if they want.

Don


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1813 times:

Flight Service is a service with branches all over the US where pilots call to get weather briefings, NOTAMs, and other information pertinent to flight planning...the phone number is 1-800-WX-BRIEF

Greg



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User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 12 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

The Community College of Beaver County (one of the CTI schools) requires every ATC student to complete PPL training.

User currently offlineBaw2198 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 637 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (9 years 12 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1786 times:

CCBC (comm. coll. beaver county)(alma mater) Expensive. I went there and it was $315 per credit hour if you were from out-of-state. $26 a credit hour if you lived in beaver county and also resided in the state of PA.

The flying wasn't cheap there either. $75 an hour for a PA28-161!!
Find a flying club and do it that way, its cheaper and you don't have to fight the whole atc program for flight time. It also saves you from having to take a couple of classes.



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User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

Thanks for the info baw.

I'm doing the training here in Columbus along with all my Gen. ed. courses, so I can skip an entire semester there and save a little money. I'm still on a waitlist, hopefully I get a letter soon, I'm itching to get started.


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