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How Do Diferent Typrs Of Reverse Thrust Work?  
User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3817 posts, RR: 7
Posted (9 years 12 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6020 times:

its pbvious how Bucket or Clamshell reverse works....

How does cascade reverse work? How does the side of the curcular engine moving back push air foward?

Also are there any other types? I know there is a certain type on airbus aircraft where 4 flap things on the engine swing out?

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User currently offline320tech From Turks and Caicos Islands, joined May 2004, 491 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (9 years 12 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5948 times:

All thrust reversers basically work the same way. They move a blocker into the airstream (on high-bypass engines, only the bypass air gets reversed).

The A320 uses four blocker doors that pivot into the airflow. They're hydraulically actuated - the actuators can be seen easily enough if you're in the correct seat.

Cascade reversers use a sliding sleeve (the duct itself). The sleeve moves aft, which simultaneously exposes the exhaust area (looks like a grate) and extends internal blockers. The blockers on the V2500 look particularly flimsy, but obviously work fine.



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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3817 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5903 times:

is a certain kind stronger than another? I was talking with some 737 200 pilots a few years ago at KCRW and they said that the reversers on that aircraft were almost equal to braking in a landing scenario.

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17041 posts, RR: 66
Reply 3, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5895 times:

Reversers are becoming less important since carbon brakes are so efficient and noise abatement more of an issue.


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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3817 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (9 years 12 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5806 times:

not in CRW... the pilots i talk to (regional jet , and dash/saab pilots), say they just reverse to stop unless its rainy or something, they say it saves brakes for when you really need em. And their reverse isnt very loud to begin with.

User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3150 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (9 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5803 times:

Modern carbon brakes work better when heated up, so you need to use them. Trans States has been ordering ERJs without TRs for about a year. It saves 700lbs and tons of maintinance. Reversers aren't taken into account for landing performance and they are just a bonus. Most modern autobrake systems are effective enough that many airlines are changing their procedures to simply deploying the reversers but not increasing thrust.

As far as strength, clamshells are usally considered the more effective (and louder) of the two types. As mentioned above, cascades only redirect the bypass flow. Clamshells redirect all of it.



DMI
User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (9 years 12 months 15 hours ago) and read 5699 times:

The A320 uses four blocker doors that pivot into the airflow. They're hydraulically actuated - the actuators can be seen easily enough if you're in the correct seat.

IAE have the pushbacks

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User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4200 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (9 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 5681 times:

The CRJ's reversers take so dang long to deploy that if I need to stop quickly by the time I finally get the reversers out and have been pretty heavily on the brakes, its already time to stow them because we'll already be passing below 80 knots. The brakes are very very effective, though idle reverse at high speed definitely has a nice effect.


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User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6737 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5641 times:

The cascade reversers are just a series of curved vanes that direct the flow forward, or, depending on the design of the vanes, forwards and sideways. There are different designs of the vanes for different parts of the aircraft - near the fuselage, near the ground - where the flow direction might cause problems or damage.


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