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Topic: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2009-04-02 06:58:54 and read 15040 times.

MISSION: Catch the DC-9 in Northwest colors (before they're gone forever)!

Hello everybody,

long time no see! After almost one year of abstinence in writing trip reports I would like to welcome you again to my recent one-day trip. I'm out of practice and the benchmark is set high. So don't expect a quality report a la Abrelosojos, FLIGER67 or OA260 (just to name a few of you guys).

This report covers my mission to catch a very classic aircraft which I don't think will be around anymore in the near future – the McDonnell Douglas DC-9!

It's a rather long report and I added as much pictures as possible, but my digicam isn't the newest therefore it sometimes lacks of quality.

The routing today:

DL6517 DTW-CVG CR9
DL6361 CVG-ORD CR2
NW149 ORD-MSP D9S
NW1456 MSP-DTW 753

I bought this ticket less than three weeks prior departure through cheaptickets.com as neither Delta nor Northwest provided this routing on their websites. The total amount of only 120 USD is unbeatable if you consider you pay only 30 USD for one single segment including taxes. Even for the train from Detroit to Chicago you're going to pay more in such short notice.
During booking seat reservations could be done and frequent flyer number could be added. After purchasing I got the Delta confirmation code with which I could easily modify the flights on the airlines respective website. Surprisingly this ticket had connected automatically with my Delta Skymiles account even though I bought it through another website. I did never see this happening before.
Anyways, enough talking around, let's go ahead with the trip! Enjoy and please let me know if you like it or not! Appreciate that...


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DL6517 Delta Connection operated by Comair
DTW (Detroit – Metro Airport) – CVG (Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Intl.)
STD 0645 | ATD 0701
STA 0800 | ATA 0752

Aircraft: Canadair CRJ-900ER N554CA Ship 15169
delivered 20-03-2008


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For your hobby you sometimes make a sacrifice. To wake up in the middle of the night at 4am is for me a big challenge, but the DC-9 is worth it!
The morning routine was done and I was on my way to the airport. Luckily it's a ride of only 15-20 minutes from my home. I parked my car at one of the many longterm parking lots near the airport with shuttles running 24hours to both terminals.
I checked in the day before, but I don't have a printer available. I immediately proceeded to one check-in kiosk and grabbed 3 of 4 boarding passes. For any reasons it didn't print the last segment with NW.
At this very early time the McNamara Terminal in DTW is somehow still sleeping.

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After security I had coffee at Starbucks and strolled around concourse A. As the boarding time came closer I made my way through the tunnel to concourse B where my first flight for the day to CVG would departing.

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My shiny new CRJ-900 (the second youngest in the Delta fleet) was sitting at the very last gate of concourse B - gate B 21. It was still dark outside. I couldn't get a decent picture without reflections.

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Boarding started on time with the First Class. Shortly after they continued boarding by zone numbers. I had zone 4 so I was one of the lasts to board the aircraft. It was an almost full flight with only 3-4 empty. Luckily the seat next to me remained empty. I prepared myself for a short nap after reaching cruising altitude, but no chance with the child and her mother sitting behind me.

We pushed back on time and took off from runway 4R. Shortly after we reached our cruising altitude.

Lake Erie and the first sun shines of the day.
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The very friendly crew consisting of two FA's served some beverages though nothing else than spring water and peanuts were available.

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After 35-40 minutes into the flight we began our initial approach to CVG. Here is a picture of Ohio shortly before the captain announced the approach.

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Until this time I couldn't manage to sleep at all as the mother and her daughter were continuously talking very loud that the whole cabin were aware of their connection flight to MCO and their short connection time of 1h and that they don't have any boarding passes and and and... Anyways...

We touched down at runway 18C and taxied to our gate B16 which would mean a transfer from B to A for my connection.

I thought only in Victorville or Manara aircrafts are stored???
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another Comair CRJ parked next to us
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Goodbyes to the crew and on the way to concourse A. Even though I had only 40 minutes to connect I wasn't in a hurry as I heard that CVG is very easy to navigate. Indeed I arrived my next departure gate (A8) within only 10 minutes.

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Even though it was very early in the morning the two FAs were nice and attentive. Also some updates about cruising altitude and weather for CVG from the cockpit.
Almost new aircraft, inside and outside spotless, usual leather seats (good for flights up to 2h, but no more) and lots of legroom. I like those CR9s!
On time departure and on time arrival. Delta operated by Comair did a good job on this flight.





DL6361 Delta Connection operated by Comair
CVG (Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Intl.) - ORD (Chicago - O'Hare Intl.)
STD 0840 | ATD 0846
STA 0903 | ATA 0834

Aircraft: Canadair CRJ-100ER N954CA Ship 7100
delivered 24-01-1996



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As boarding wasn't announced yet when I arrived at the gate I walked around the concourse to get a decent shot of my aircraft. CVG is for sure a Delta CRJ heaven. I've never seen so much CRJs in one airport in my life! On the other side I only saw a couple of Delta mainline aircrafts.
After searching for the best position I found a smoking lounge with a window directly facing my CRJ-100

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N954CA again with all his brothers and sisters. Note that this is only one side of the A concourse. Exactly the same amount of CRJ were parked at both the other side and at concourse B.

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As no First Class cabin on this aircraft was available Delta started boarding first with their Elites and those needing more time to go on board. Shortly after it was our turn (zone 2).
Here is a shot from the gate window

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As you can see in the picture one has to walk down the jetway first onto the tarmac. After a right turn you will find yourself in front of a funny construction which I never saw before. Well, I never boarded a CRJ like this. Normally you just climb the stairs, but not in the US!  Wink
Anyways...

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this odd construction gave me the opportunity to take one of my favorite shots:

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I personally like the new Delta livery much. I don't know why, but I think it is somehow classic and futuristic at once. The CRJs as well as the A330s look very pretty in my eyes, the 747 rather not though.
I suppose this bird got his new dress very recently as no pictures in the database with the new livery are available.
Back to the topic!

This flight was full and I hate full CRJ-100 flights. Especially when the guy next to me almost hits the panel due to his tallness. I really feel sorry for these guys as this aircraft is really not made to accommodate tall guys like him. I mean, I'm only 5'8, but also for me it's really cramped. You can hardly move around when seated at the window.

Our neighbor going to YYZ
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Only one FA for this flight, a rather senior in her field. She was professional, but also charming and nice.
We left the gate some minutes earlier and took off from runway 27 with a direct West heading. Before we took off from CVG the captain came on the PA to inform us about a very bumpy flight. And so it was! Minutes after take-off we hit a cloud cover with heavy turbulences. Even though we reached our cruising altitude already the turbulences were present every once in a while.
The FA apologized for not being able to serve hot beverages due to the weather problems, but surprisingly she managed to serve cold drinks without a trolley. She ran from row to row, got the order and came back immediately with the drinks.

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the peanuts are somehow familiar...  Smile

Luckily the estimated flight time was much shorter than the scheduled (20 minutes less). As much as I love being on board an aircraft and flying all around the globe, I really dislike these CR2-flights.
Soon enough "Windy-City" was recognizable through the clouds. Really not the best weather! Sorry for the bad quality of the shots.

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After 48 minutes flight time we touched the ground again on runway 22R and taxied to position L10B. It was a looong taxi to the gate.
I waited until everybody disembarked to ask for a cockpit picture. Fortunately the captain stood in the door to say goodbye to his passengers. I kindly asked him and he kindly allowed me to take a cockpit photo. Thank you!

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by the way, this is the cabin during deboarding:
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and N954CA again
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This really wasn't a good flight for me. I was cramped, the flight was full, I had limited space to move or stretch my legs and it was bumpy. To be honest I was glad as it was over.
But I still want to mention what a great job the crew did. The cockpit informed us beforehand and also during the flight gave us updates about weather and so on. And also thumbs up for the single FA as she was able to serve all of us (remember she went back and forth to the galley after every two pax), she managed the situation very professional and kept herself calm at all time, but she never forgot to keep smiling and be attentive. Great job!





NW 149 operated by Northwest Airlines
ORD (Chicago - O'Hare Intl.) - MSP (Minneapolis/St.Paul Airport)
STD 1200 | ATD 1201
STA 1334 | ATA 1331

Aircraft: McDonnell Douglas DC-9-31 N8928E Ship 9949
delivered 12-07-1967 (41.7 years old!) to Eastern Airlines


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Now I had like three hours to kill until my first ever DC-9-31 ride!!!
I explored the whole airport, went to all terminals (including T5 Intl.) and watched the action around. United and American are the top dogs at O'Hare for sure whereas I would say UA has slightly more operations.
The weather was so bad that I didn't try to take any pictures at all. Here are only some examples to show how gray, dark and rainy it was:

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Terminal 1 is my favorite terminal in O'Hare. A lot of shopping opportunities, nice construction, a lot of windows to watch movements which also illuminates the whole inside of the building. United is the landlord here.

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My Northwest flight was departing at terminal 2. Delta is operating out of terminal 3 so I'm not sure if NW stays at 2 or all the operations will be moved to 3. Time will tell...

After having a lunch I went outside the security area for 1-2 smokes as I still had a lot of time and it wasn't a busy day at all. The first time ever I had a very funny and nice TSA crew. Usually they're doing there job like robots, but these guys had a special "Windy-City-Touch". Can you imagine making jokes with TSA guys, because you forgot to remove the bottle of Coke inside your carry on? Big grin
Well, after this nice security experience I went straight to the gate which was far at the end of the concourse (E13). My DC9 was already waiting there for it's ride to MSP.

The jetway of E11 was blocking the view to get a decent shot of N8928E at the gate. Here are my tries:

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30 minutes prior departure they announced boarding. First Class, than Elites and Exit Row seater and after that the remaining cabin.
Upon entering the aircraft it didn't really look like almost 42 years old! Indeed the overhead bins and seat covers were in a much, much better condition than other airlines actual situation.
I was seated in row 18 which is shortly in front of the engines. When picking up my boarding pass at the gate the agent asked me to change my seat more to the front as the people always want to avoid seating in the back especially on the DCs, but this didn't bother me today as I was flying for the joy and the fun and THIS CLASSIC!

Honestly these two JT8D-7B engines make some serious noises and if I was to fly on them everyday I would use earplugs, but as I said before "today I don't care!". So I enjoyed the sounds when the engines started, a fresh smell of fuel covered the cabin and everything was shaking. By the way, we pushed back on time..  Wink

It was a rather long taxi to 22L and we were number 6 or 7 in line for departure. It was a bumpy take-off, but nothing seriously couldn't managed by our "old-boy". He most probably suffered some more worse weather situations.  Smile

After reaching cruising altitude the two FAs first served the First Class cabin. Than it was our turn and surprise, surprise another bunch of the very same peanuts I got on the previous two Delta flights along with a Pepsi.

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I would say the FAs on this flight were reserved. They did they job, but nothing more. No smiling at all... I don't care as long as they perform well in emergency situations!

As it was getting boring outside (only clouds)...

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...I dozed off for a couple of minutes to be awaking up by the pilot giving us a lot of information. We had to hold for 10-12 minutes and he told that MSP has three parallel runways and parallel approaches are normal procedures so that we don't be scared when we see another aircraft flying very close outside. He added that it's going to be rough during descent, but once we passed through the cover of clouds we'll be fine. And so it was...

We touched down on 12L very smoothly and immediately left the runway to taxi to position F7. Three minutes ahead of schedule we were on block again.
I waited until everybody left the plane and to my surprise even the cockpit crew were gone already when I reached the front Big grin only one of the FA was there, but she allowed to take pictures of the cabin and the cockpit. Especially the cockpit shot is my best shot for this day!

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just compare the cockpit of the CR9 on the top with this classic cockpit! All I can say is WOW!!!
At the gate I took a last picture of N8982E.

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All in all I really enjoyed this flight. I didn't fly because I wanted to get from A to B, I flew because I wanted to enjoy it!





NW 1456 operated by Northwest Airlines
MSP (Minneapolis/St.Paul Airport) - DTW (Detroit Metro Airport)
STD 1515 | ATD 1507
STA 1800 | ATA 1757

Aircraft: Boeing B757-351 N596NW Ship 5816
delivered 21-10-2003 (youngest NW 753)


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After arriving from ORD I immediately went to the screens to find out that the departure gate for my last leg to DTW is going to be F9 which is right next to the arrival gate F7. Nice! My itinerary said 753 for this flight, but at that time no aircraft was visible at the gate and I had around 90 minutes so I went out again for a smoke. On the way back security took only a couple of minutes. Here are some shots of the terminal
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I went to the food court to have a view on the apron as well as a ice cream at Ben&Jerry's Big grin
My 753 arrived already and gave me now the opportunity to take a picture of both my DC9 and the 753

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and another one directly at the gate

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this bird is an ETOPS aircraft

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boarding started on time, full First Class cabin with all the free upgrades (the screen showed 14 cleared upgrades, the capacity is 24 in F), but a rather empty Economy. I would say the load was around 40%. For sure it's not easy to fill 200 coach seats when you have flights between the two hubs every hour. On this flight I had the whole last row for myself.
Push-back was some minutes ahead of schedule and we took off from runway 12L.

Once reached the cruising altitude the view was the same until Michigan

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Really boring weather... Anyways...
The crew came around. This time hot beverages were available:

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It was really a boring flight:

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the aft section of the cabin

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Soon enough Detroit and DTW were visible in the distance:

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Touch-down on 04L and a rather long taxi to the gate. During taxi some interesting shots

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And on block some minutes ahead of schedule at A66. The middle economy class section during deboarding:

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Deboarding through door L2 so no possibility of a quick cockpit shot. The aircraft was going to return to MSP again. So I assume it is a MSP based 753?

Did I told you that I love the McNamara terminal? This is really a nice, modern and easy to navigate terminal. The perfect base for a mega hub.

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and no visit of DTW without taking a picture of the famous fountain (sorry very dark pictures):

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and a final picture from the curbside:

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sad to know that in the near future everything here will be blue and red. I love the NW livery!

Every story comes to an end. Now we reached ours. Conclusion?

The new Delta is a reliable airline which will take you from A to B on time The newer aircrafts are spotless and the older one in a very good condition.
I think I liked more the Delta crews on todays day trip, but the Northwest weren't mad or mean, they were just doing their job like the Delta's, the only difference was a smile.

And last, but not least I'm very happy to get on board a real classic airliner. It's amazing to know that this aircraft is so old, but in such a good condition. Good job NW!

Hope you like this report. Any comments are appreciated!

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: DALCE
Posted 2009-04-02 07:18:41 and read 15004 times.

Hi Ori,

Finally we can enjoy reading your reports again!
Do you like it in the USA?
Great report, with a really special aircraft, Scoring the NW DC9-31 is amazing, and this bird will probably lack my log forever  Sad
Nevertheless you must have had a great day of flying around!

Thanks for sharing!
Joost (D-ALCE)

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2009-04-02 08:28:54 and read 14850 times.

Hi Ori,

good to see you posted a trip report again! And this was a very enjoyable one which I read with special interest: Just a few weeks ago I also flew on two NWA DC-9s - both the -40 and the -50 versions which were still missing in my log. However, it will take some more time until I post a report.

Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
Upon entering the aircraft it didn't really look like almost 42 years old! Indeed the overhead bins and seat covers were in a much, much better condition than other airlines actual situation.

Amazing, isn't it? The interiors look so new, you'd never guess the plane's age. Most passengers who don't know about aircraft types would be quite "surprised" about hearing the truth...  Wink

Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
Honestly these two JT8D-7B engines make some serious noises and if I was to fly on them everyday I would use earplugs, but as I said before "today I don't care!". So I enjoyed the sounds when the engines started, a fresh smell of fuel covered the cabin and everything was shaking.

That's what makes it enjoyable - the noise level is not comparable at all to all those modern jets...

Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
I waited until everybody left the plane and to my surprise even the cockpit crew were gone already when I reached the front Big grin only one of the FA was there, but she allowed to take pictures of the cabin and the cockpit. Especially the cockpit shot is my best shot for this day!

Good to hear. I also didn't face problems with taking pictures. The crews were all quite nice actually.

Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
sad to know that in the near future everything here will be blue and red. I love the NW livery!

Yes, it's sad to see the NWA livery disappearing.


PH

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Da
Username: MSNfan
Posted 2009-04-02 08:41:23 and read 14827 times.

Fantastic TR and pics!! On my get-to-fly-a-NW-DC9 trip in August I flew on N8929E in seat 18A...this TR definitely makes me want to do it again.

Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
I was seated in row 18 which is shortly in front of the engines. When picking up my boarding pass at the gate the agent asked me to change my seat more to the front as the people always want to avoid seating in the back especially on the DCs, but this didn't bother me today as I was flying for the joy and the fun and THIS CLASSIC!

Honestly these two JT8D-7B engines make some serious noises and if I was to fly on them everyday I would use earplugs, but as I said before "today I don't care!". So I enjoyed the sounds when the engines started, a fresh smell of fuel covered the cabin and everything was shaking.

SO true, couldn't agree more. Thanks a lot for posting!

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: EWRkid1990
Posted 2009-04-02 08:52:29 and read 14801 times.

If I remember correctly, terminal B at CVG is where they keep the mainline jets. Why are all the CRJ's there when they have ALL of terminal C for regional jets. I flew EWR-CVG-PHX in '07 and our EWR-CVG CRJ-700 parked at C in CVG...has this changed? Great report and glad you got on your DC-9!!
-EWRkid1990

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: Mke717spotter
Posted 2009-04-02 09:02:58 and read 14785 times.

Very good trip report and pictures!!! I actually took a daytrip on NW myself a few weeks ago, did MKE-DTW-ATL and back. Too bad the weather wasn't nicer for your trip.

Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
The total amount of only 120 USD is unbeatable if you consider you pay only 30 USD for one single segment including taxes.

What?! How did all those four flights only end up costing you $120?!

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: IndyWA
Posted 2009-04-02 09:06:17 and read 14779 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
I thought only in Victorville or Manara aircrafts are stored???

This is where Comair parks the aircraft that don't leave until later in the day aka "remote pad"

Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
After a right turn you will find yourself in front of a funny construction which I never saw before. Well, I never boarded a CRJ like this. Normally you just climb the stairs, but not in the US!

Actually these are used in a lot of places where jetways aren't available. ATL/CVG/SLC, etc. Makes it easier for older/impaired people to get into the aircraft.

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: Fghtngsiouxatc
Posted 2009-04-02 09:32:07 and read 14721 times.

Awesome report! I flew N8928E from GFK-MSP 3 weeks ago heading home for spring break. They had to bump a few people off the flight because of a broken jumpseat. Besides that, you really can't tell the planes are 40+ years old unless your anutter! I've been heading home a lot lately from school and I'm actually getting sick of the DC-9! I've flown 3 in the past couple months, and will be flying 2 more in the next week for Easter. I know they're a part of history, but they're just so loud!

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: PanAm330
Posted 2009-04-02 09:54:25 and read 14686 times.

Great report! I've been on quite a few DC9s myself, and this report makes me want to do it just one more time before they're gone! I'm sad to see the NW livery disappear, but I'm also excited to see the changes that will come!

Quoting EWRkid1990 (Reply 4):
Why are all the CRJ's there when they have ALL of terminal C for regional jets.

C has been closed. All RJs moved to the main concourses.

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: EWRkid1990
Posted 2009-04-02 10:55:05 and read 14558 times.

Seriously? C is closed now? So is B completely mobbed with all the mainline and connection flights?

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: PlateMan
Posted 2009-04-02 11:27:09 and read 14505 times.

I also loved the report, that is amazing how cheap you got those flights for....Besides the DC-9 which was your favorite jet of the trip?

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: PanAm330
Posted 2009-04-02 12:25:36 and read 14410 times.



Quoting EWRkid1990 (Reply 9):
Seriously? C is closed now? So is B completely mobbed with all the mainline and connection flights?

Yes, seriously. B isn't "mobbed," but it is definitely busier. The move has made CVG feel more like a bustling hub again with lots of traffic, like it used to be.

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2009-04-02 17:03:26 and read 14094 times.



Quoting DALCE (Reply 1):
Hi Ori,

Finally we can enjoy reading your reports again!
Do you like it in the USA?
Great report, with a really special aircraft, Scoring the NW DC9-31 is amazing, and this bird will probably lack my log forever Sad
Nevertheless you must have had a great day of flying around!

Thanks for sharing!
Joost (D-ALCE)

thanks Joost, it's really nice here. I still don't have any regrets about moving here.  Smile
Never give up, maybe one will show up at the gate for your flight. You never know  Wink keep your fingers crossed and try to book NW flights  Wink

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
And this was a very enjoyable one

thanks buddy, glad you liked it!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Just a few weeks ago I also flew on two NWA DC-9s - both the -40 and the -50 versions which were still missing in my log. However, it will take some more time until I post a report.

they are also missing in my log, but I booked already some flights in summer with NW/DL so they're hopefully show up at the gate if nothing changes until July.
by the way what was your routing?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Most passengers who don't know about aircraft types would be quite "surprised" about hearing the truth...

yes indeed! I talked to the guy next to me and said that this bird is more or less 40 years old and he was kinda shocked  Smile

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Good to hear. I also didn't face problems with taking pictures. The crews were all quite nice actually.

something I really apreciated!

Quoting MSNfan (Reply 3):
Fantastic TR and pics!! On my get-to-fly-a-NW-DC9 trip in August I flew on N8929E in seat 18A

thank you MSNfan! so you was in exactly the same seat on the sister bird, how funny is that?!?  Smile

Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 5):
How did all those four flights only end up costing you $120?!

well, if you search and search and search and search again and spend a lot of time on kayak, cheaptickets, orbits & co some of these fares will shop up. I always fix a day first (mostly my day off of work) and try to look for cheap fares for that day. As I said this kind of booking with only three hours in ORD isn't available on the airlines website, but for any reasons on the other sides. And of course I always try to fly via as much airports as possible. Indeed the very same fare was available for a direct ORD-DTW return flight, but I went for this one to catch the DC9 (and of course the 753 which is also rare in my log)

Quoting IndyWA (Reply 6):
This is where Comair parks the aircraft that don't leave until later in the day aka "remote pad"

oh didn't know that! thank you for that information. It really looks like the planes stored in the desert...

Quoting IndyWA (Reply 6):
Actually these are used in a lot of places where jetways aren't available. ATL/CVG/SLC, etc. Makes it easier for older/impaired people to get into the aircraft.

actually jetways are available at the A concourse, but I guess they aren't available for CRJ boardings. I understand that this makes boarding easier for older/impaired people, but anyways they have to walk down the stairs at the end of the jetway. anyways... I think only in the US it is very common to have regional airplane at the gate and boarding is through the jetway. Over in Europe it's more common that the regionals are parked outside on the ramp and you get bused to the plane.

Quoting Fghtngsiouxatc (Reply 7):

so you took the offer?
I know exactly what you mean. As I said when I've to fly on them every day I would rather go for a seat in the front and wouldn't forget some earplugs  Wink

Quoting PlateMan (Reply 10):
Besides the DC-9 which was your favorite jet of the trip?

as the other planes are covered in my log already they were "just another" flight. but I enjoyed the whole row of the 753 and the very good legroom on the CR9.

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2009-04-03 13:50:27 and read 13673 times.

Hi, Ori,

really well done story.
You know, I like your style. Catching some exotic machines is really worth to fly around for the day or the days!.

Also good to read about your not that bad TSA experiences.
We will see what happens to me next week!.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2009-04-03 17:36:34 and read 13534 times.



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 13):
really well done story.
You know, I like your style. Catching some exotic machines is really worth to fly around for the day or the days!.

glad you liked it! thank you. Everytime I really try to catch planes other than the usual Airbus/Boeing stuff  Wink

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 13):
We will see what happens to me next week!.

hey, how nice! I don't remember reading a longhaul trip report of yours and I'm really looking forward to it as I'll go to Flordida in July, too. My routing is slightly different, but the fligths are already booked (again at a very cheap fare  Wink ) :
DTW-IAD-CLT-PBI (UA/US) / MIA-MCO (AA) / MCO-MEM-IND-DTW (NW)
Please let us know about your trip, especially the stopover in CLT!

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: N801NW
Posted 2009-04-03 18:18:22 and read 13508 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 14):
DTW-IAD-CLT-PBI (UA/US) / MIA-MCO (AA) / MCO-MEM-IND-DTW (NW)
Please let us know about your trip, especially the stopover in CLT!

Is this booked as one itinerary or three? I would like to do something like this but am unsure as how it should be ticketed.

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2009-04-03 18:52:47 and read 13485 times.



Quoting N801NW (Reply 15):
Is this booked as one itinerary or three? I would like to do something like this but am unsure as how it should be ticketed.

actually the DTW-...-PBI and the return MCO...-DTW is booked. MIA-MCO I'm going to fly standby on AA. It's booked as two seperate one-way tickets, one through UA the other NW.

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: Atrude777
Posted 2009-04-03 19:56:10 and read 13423 times.

Fantastic Report man!

Seems a bunch of us are doing some day trips on NWA (I took mine back in Feb, going STL-MSP-PDX-SEA-MSP-STL, CR9, A319, Q400, 753 and DC930). Enjoy the flights on NW as they last!

Good pictures and report bud.

Alex

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: StarAlliance38
Posted 2009-04-04 08:43:59 and read 13200 times.

Great TR! I have 23,000 miles on NW and nobody to go with me with lol. I hope I can get one of my WorldPerks gold relatives to come with me and ride one lol.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 14):
DTW-IAD-CLT-PBI (UA/US) / MIA-MCO (AA) / MCO-MEM-IND-DTW (NW)
Please let us know about your trip, especially the stopover in CLT!

CLT is win! Awesome Airport! Love it! CLT! Woo! You should eat an Caroline Pit BBQ. That's my regular  Smile. CLT is a great city too!

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: Iowaman
Posted 2009-04-04 21:41:08 and read 13011 times.

GREAT report! The 9's are always fun!

How did you like the 753? Amazing how long they are!

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: StefanPAD
Posted 2009-04-05 06:26:50 and read 12899 times.

Hi Ori!

Great TR! What a day-trip. Nice touch of the FAs for letting you taking cockpit shots.

Cheers,
Stefan

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: Airbuseric
Posted 2009-04-05 13:18:11 and read 12786 times.

Hi Ori!
Didn't know you moved to the other side of the Atlantic, but it seems you've found your place.
Great to see that you scored the DC9! Like Joost said before, also for me, I think it will remain a missing type in my log.
I enjoyed it a lot, and hopefully you'll cover more US travels soon here  Wink

Regards,
Eric

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2009-04-07 06:30:10 and read 12551 times.



Quoting Iowaman (Reply 19):
How did you like the 753? Amazing how long they are!

it was a comfortable and cozy flight. but I'm pretty sure because of the light load. With a full flight the noise level might be very high and the overall feeling would be more like cramped.
nevertheless the legroom is good and the seats are comfortable (for a flight up to 3hrs.)

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 20):
Great TR! What a day-trip. Nice touch of the FAs for letting you taking cockpit shots.

hi stefan, glad you liked it! it was indeed a very nice crew. for me the cockpit shot of the dc is an one-in-a-lifetime experience (I guess...)

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 21):
Didn't know you moved to the other side of the Atlantic, but it seems you've found your place.
Great to see that you scored the DC9! Like Joost said before, also for me, I think it will remain a missing type in my log.
I enjoyed it a lot, and hopefully you'll cover more US travels soon here

hey eric, well its only for certain time. in summer I'll return to good old Europe  Wink
don't be too pesimistic, I heard most of them will find new homes in Southamerica. As you know in that part of the world some rather old 737-200 and even 727s are still flying around. You might catch them there sometime?!?!

yes, as mentioned above a Florida trip is on the agenda as well as trips to SFO, SEA, YYZ, YUL and NYC. if I can catch something interesting (other than boring 320s or 737s) I'll post a report.

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Da
Username: Transpac787
Posted 2009-04-07 06:52:08 and read 12544 times.



Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
this bird is an ETOPS aircraft

All of NW's 757-300's are ETOPS-180 certified now. Initially, the first few 753's to enter the fleet were not, but all have long-since been ETOPS-certified as they all routinely rotate to and through Hawaii.

Quoting Stylo777 (Thread starter):
I would say the load was around 40%. For sure it's not easy to fill 200 coach seats when you have flights between the two hubs every hour.

You were actually extremely lucky to get such a low load-factor on this flight. The 753 is timed for peak hub-to-hub time (obviously!) and typically goes out 90% or higher on the LF. During the summer it's 100% LF every day... pain in the neck to nonrev on!!



Impressive you got all those flights for as cheap as you did. Thanks for all the on-board pictures, it's interesting to me to see all the gradual on-board changes during the transition. Thank God they still have Pepsi on NW flights though!!  devil 

Topic: RE: All For The DC9: DTW-CVG-ORD-MSP-DTW In One Day
Username: Stylo777
Posted 2009-04-07 08:36:35 and read 12528 times.



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 23):
All of NW's 757-300's are ETOPS-180 certified now. Initially, the first few 753's to enter the fleet were not, but all have long-since been ETOPS-certified as they all routinely rotate to and through Hawaii.

really? didnt know that! but it makes sense as you said they are flying to hawaii very often!

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 23):
You were actually extremely lucky to get such a low load-factor on this flight. The 753 is timed for peak hub-to-hub time (obviously!) and typically goes out 90% or higher on the LF. During the summer it's 100% LF every day... pain in the neck to nonrev on!!

yes indeed, I was very lucky. also the FA told me that it is very unusual for this flight to go out that empty. but I saw that most of the times the DC9 is scheduled to run this route with only two or three 75s and sometimes a CR9 in between.

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 23):
Thank God they still have Pepsi on NW flights though!!

 bigthumbsup 


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