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Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2007-12-03 06:24:38 and read 20113 times.

Oddities & Okinawa: NGO-OKA-FUK on JAL 747-400D & JTA 737-400


Intro
Naha Airport at Okinawa, JAL's 747-400D (=domestic) and JTA's 737-400 are featured in part 2 of my Japan Trip Report series. All users who have missed part 1 or want to read again about the background and trip planning simply need to click here:
MUC To Nagoya: Finnair E170 & (Old) "New" A340 (by PlaneHunter Nov 15 2007 in Trip Reports)


Toyoko-Inn Hotel
The Toyoko-Inn at the airport island is not a luxury hotel, but quite new, clean and functional. What's most remarkable: tiny rooms - but they are well-equipped with any kinds of amenities. Breakfast included, (coffee/tea and pastries), friendly staff, not bad for some 46 Euro (double room).
View from our room - pretty first morning in the "Land of the Rising Sun":




Monday, 29 October 2007
Nagoya (NGO) - Okinawa (OKA)
JAL - Japan Airlines, JL3251
08:50-11:00 (08:47-10:59)
Flying time: 02:00 (hrs)

Boeing 747-446D
JA8905 Tamagotchi cls (s/n 948), delivered in 12/1992
Economy Seat 69A



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Warm Smiles
The walking distance between our hotel and the terminal building was not very far, but this time we decided to try the shuttle bus. It was quite busy in the check-in hall, but many counters were open so that we didn't have to wait in line. Two smiling female agents welcomed us and took our passes as well as our frequent flyer cards - bedding them on both hands. We asked for seats in the upper deck - and soon one of ladies presented our boarding passes, again using both hands. Even though the two flights weren't booked as a connection we also got the boarding passes for the OKA-FUK sector in the evening. Accordingly, we wouldn't have to deal with our luggage at Okinawa. However, we couldn't leave our luggage at the check-in counter but had to drop off the bags at a dedicated counter.

The Tamagotchi Plane
There was plenty of time left for spotting so we went to the observation deck again which opened to the minute at 07:00. It was quite busy, with most parking positions occupied. What I immediately noticed was that one of JAL's Tamagotchi-colored 744Ds parked at a remote position (on the very left):




Actually it was JA8905 again, like in the afternoon before. It only took me a few minutes to find out that it was the one and only JAL 744D at NGO this morning. An ANA 767 was scheduled to leave from our gate about one hour prior to our departure time so I was confident about the 744 being towed to exactly that position soon...and indeed it happened. No standard 744 last-minute arrival from Haneda...  Wink




Opposite side:




Drinks Vending Machine
While walking around in the gate area I discovered a corner with several drink vending machines - actually these machines can be found at almost any corner across the country. The assortment is excellent and the prices are very reasonable (between 100 and 150 Yen for a drink).




Light Load
Probably some 100 people hung around in the gate when boarding was started - what a low load factor on a 447-seating 747-400D! It was a Monday morning flight to a typical holiday destination - probably there were much more people booked on the return flight. Tamagotchi scheme close-up:




Cabin Comfort & IFE
After a warm welcome at the door we went upstairs and took our seats. Some minutes later it became obvious that most of the 66 seats would remain empty so both of us could choose one row each.


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Old style seats, but comfortable...


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...and lots of legroom.



View from my seat:




IFE
Antiquated headphones were available at every seat for audio and overhead TV entertainment, but the selection of channels wasn't convincing. Nice feature: front camera for takeoff and landing. Most of the time the airshow channel was shown on the screens.




English Newspapers
Just after sitting down a friendly female F/A offered us two English newspapers and I grabbed the International Herald Tribune. Very individual service for us - the F/As had realized we were the only ones on board not from Japan and had correctly assumed we wouldn't be happy with the choice of Japanese newspapers available at the door.  Smile

The Waving Rampers
We were pushed back three minutes early and soon started taxiing. And whenever a plane starts taxiing in Japan, the rampers - mostly wearing helmets and white gloves - form a line and start waving:






Finally, as soon as the plane has passed their position, they make a low bow. With these rituals the rampers say goodbye and show respect for customers and crews. Simply great!  bigthumbsup 


Flight Attendant Rituals
The two F/As on the upper deck were the next ones to perform a ritual. With synchronized movements they checked doors and overhead bins - slowly pointing along the bins with outstretched arms. Then again synchronized movements when they explained the safety instructions. Low bow before sitting down, low bow again after standing up after takeoff. Very impressing.  thumbsup 

No Picture-Policy
Like other Japanese carriers, JAL prohibits the use of any electronic devices during takeoff and landing. In the case of simple digital cameras, this makes no sense at all. Anti-camera policy in Japan - unbelievable...  thumbsdown 


Fast Takeoff
JA8905 turned onto the runway at 08:56 and started a powerful - and short - takeoff roll. Large Centrair marking in the grass:




We climbed out steeply and turned left:




Another view of Centrair:




JA8905 climbed fast into cloudy skies over the Pacific Ocean...






Drink Service
No meals or snacks are served on JAL domestic flights in Economy Class - and no exception for the rather long sectors to Okinawa-Naha. The F/As offered a range of drinks and a soup and I ordered a tasty coffee with extra sugar.




Cabin Tour
Some 30 minutes after takeoff it was time for an extended cabin tour at 11,000 meters:




Map in English...




...followed by the Japanese version:




The aft section on the main deck was totally empty...




...most passengers were seated in the front and middle sections.




The 744's wing without winglet:




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Two white GE CF6-80s and a great blue sky:


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Pokemon Surprise
Later in the flight in I noticed another plane, still very small and impossible to identify:




Now it was time to use my binoculars which I could place on the convenient upper deck storage bins:




The unknown plane had become bigger and bigger - and it looked extremely colorful. Satchmo and I finally concluded that it must be a 747 in special colors. Then it was clear: ANA Pokemon Jumbo, or to be more exact, JA8956. I could even read the registration under its wing. No doubt, it was also destined for Okinawa.




Approach
The time on that enjoyable flight had passed quickly and we started our descent into Naha Airport:


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Dense clouds...




...water...




...reefs...






...and beautiful tiny islands.


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Only few moments to go...




...and touchdown at 10:56.




Just as we were slowing down one F/As seated some meters in front of me (and facing the rows on my side) asked me to stop taking pictures. That was quite late, considering her location - but I had the important pics anyway.  Wink


Naha Airport Spotting
We arrived at the gate one minute ahead of schedule. No waiting time at disembarking and only some 15 minutes later we entered one of the two observation decks which stretch over both ends of the main terminal building. The facility is not as modern and convenient as all the others we have visited on our tour - and the only one with an entrance fee (100 Yen) - but it offers good views. Again great for registration spotting, but photographers face the sun in the afternoon. There's also an indoor spotting area behind glass free of charge. Not to forget, some restaurants offer good views, too - so we didn't miss anything while enjoying Japanese delicacies at reasonable prices.  Smile

Most frequent visitors are ANA (744/763/777), ANK (735/73G), JAL (744/763/777), JEX (734), home-based JTA (734) and RAC (DH8). China Airlines is one of the few foreign carriers. In some five hours I got a total of 35 new regs.
Additionally, Naha is a major military base - noisy F-4 Phantoms may be very active.


Various ANA tails (744/763):


Picture by Satchmo


Here it is again - JA8956, one of ANA's Pokemon Jumbos:




Nonstop widebody action on the apron. JA8904, JAL's other Tamagotchi Jumbo, has just arrived:




Goodbye, JA8956...




Our Tamagotchi Jumbo on its way back to Nagoya - note the F-4 departing on the right!




Goodbye, JA8905...






JA8908 has just arrived and is directed to its parking position by a ramper almost at flightdeck height:


Picture by Satchmo


Final bowing after the work is done:


Picture by Satchmo


CAL Accident Site
On August 20, China Airlines 738 B-18616 burst into flames only shortly after landing at Okinawa-Naha Airport. The dark accident site is still closed off:





Monday, 29 October 2007
Okinawa (OKA) - Fukuoka (FUK)
JTA - Japan Transocean Air, JL3608
16:00-17:40 (16:12-17:53)
Flying time: 01:16 (hrs)

Boeing 737-4Q3
JA8939 (s/n 3088), delivered in 01/1999
Economy Seat 12B



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Slight Delay
For the one and only time in Japan we had to wait at a bus gate for the flight to Fukuoka. Boarding was started a bit late and we were bussed to JA8939, a late 737-400 built in 12/98.




No Pictures!
We took our seats in row 12 and just started taking pictures when a F/A asked us to switch off the cameras - even though the plane was still parked! Either JTA has even stricter rules than JAL or the very F/A has exaggerated. At least she was very friendly. Some minutes later she returned to our row and told us that the flying time would be 1 hour and 20 minutes. Somehow I had the impression that was a kind of remediation after preventing us from taking pictures.

Cabin Comfort
The flight was packed, load factor somewhere between 90 and 100 percent, so after boearding was completed we didn't attract attention by taking some pictures discretely. Cabin view:


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I would rate the seating comfort and pitch as average, but being stuck in the middle seat is never a pleasure.




Departure
We left the gate at 16:12 - this time with waving Okinawa rampers:


Picture by Satchmo


After taxiing for a while we stopped again for about 15 minutes - no explanation from the flightdeck. Then we finally taxied to the runway. One more arriving ANA 763...




...and then JA8939 accelerated and took off powerfully at 16:34.




Approach
Except for one round of drinks, the flight was rather uneventful. After about an hour in the air we already started the descent into Fukuoka. The day ended like it had begun: Beautiful sunset - this time over Kyushu:


Picture by Satchmo


Fukuoka Airport, the third largest in Japan, is completely surrounded by residential areas. Airport Overview:


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Most of the time aircraft land on runway 16 - but sometimes runway 34 is used for landings which requires a sharp turn on final descent. This evening we had the pleasure to land on runway 34 and enjoyed great views of the (close) thousands of lights on the ground:


Picture by Satchmo


We touched down at 17:50 and arrived at the gate three minutes later. This means we were 13 minutes late in the end - definitely an exception for Japan.  Smile Last shot of JA8939 from the gate:




After a short investigative visit to the observation deck on the domestic terminal we picked up our luggage and headed to the airport's subway station. Hakata Station was just two stops away and after some moments of orientation in that multi-story train station we crossed one road and check-in at the Comfort Hotel Hakata.


Conclusion
Domestic flying on JAL and JTA to and from OKA was very convenient and enjoyable. Very friendly ground staff and flight crews, no queues, customer-orientation everywhere. While comfort on the JTA 734 was not different from European or American domestic carriers, JAL's 744 was impressing, especially seating on the upper deck. Nice seats, great pitch - and all that on a large widebody. A snack would have been a fine addition on that rather long sector to Okinawa, but the no-food policy is standard on the major Japanese domestic carriers. It's a bit annoying that the use of digital cameras is not allowed officially during takeoff and landing, but discretion helps...
To sum it up: Fly on Japanese domestic routes and feel & see the difference!  Smile

Next report: FUK-HND on JAL (ex-JAS) 777-200



Best Regards,
PlaneHunter

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: Lufthansa747
Posted 2007-12-03 08:11:39 and read 19964 times.

Great report, brings back memories of my OKA trip. I flew NH 747-400D HND-OKA-ITM, great experience although the OKA-ITM was supposed to be one of their remaining 2 B747SR-81s at that point... I upgraded both flights to ANA Super Seat for a ridiculously low fee, I believe JL is even cheaper for that.

I have had my share of camera problems on Asiana, never on NH though. Only one flight on JL so far.


Regards,

LH747

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2007-12-03 08:55:20 and read 19903 times.



Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 1):
Great report, brings back memories of my OKA trip. I flew NH 747-400D HND-OKA-ITM, great experience although the OKA-ITM was supposed to be one of their remaining 2 B747SR-81s at that point

Thanks! Too bad you missed that 747SR - what a rare type.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 1):
I upgraded both flights to ANA Super Seat for a ridiculously low fee, I believe JL is even cheaper for that.

Indeed very cheap - only 1000 Yen on JAL. We didn't ask because we wanted to sit on the upper deck. And on some other flights C class was already full...

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 1):
I have had my share of camera problems on Asiana, never on NH though.

No problems with ANA or Skymark either, but I always had a good seat where F/As couldn't see me.


PH

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2007-12-03 11:22:45 and read 19724 times.

Hello, PH,

great story and pix, thanx for posting.

While Japan is still an uncovered place in my log, it was an real interesting read.

Can´t wait for more Japanese storys coming up.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: Abrelosojos
Posted 2007-12-03 12:15:50 and read 19665 times.



Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Like other Japanese carriers, JAL prohibits the use of any electronic devices during takeoff and landing. In the case of simple digital cameras, this makes no sense at all. Anti-camera policy in Japan - unbelievable...



Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
JA8905 turned onto the runway at 08:56 and started a powerful - and short - takeoff roll. Large Centrair marking in the grass:

= Great TR. And I see you broke the photo taking rules ... good for you  Smile.

Cheers,
A.

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: B747forever
Posted 2007-12-03 12:22:18 and read 19635 times.

Brilliant TR.

The pics are really good.

Great to see that I am not the only one that brings binoculars with me on board.

I love the Japanese domestic travel, because they use w/o on so short flights.

Looking forward for the next TR.


Thank you for sharing.

B747forever.

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: Luv2fly
Posted 2007-12-03 12:23:51 and read 19635 times.

Nice report and you took some great photos, thanks for sharing.

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: Door5right
Posted 2007-12-03 12:25:16 and read 19634 times.

Terrififc report Mr PlaneHunter.

Those headphones are positively antique! Lovely to see the 'bow' to the Queen of the Skies; also the waves upon departing the ramp. Little touches of courtesy much appreciated by passengers and crew alike who spot them I am sure.

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: LXM83
Posted 2007-12-03 13:12:57 and read 19553 times.

Thanks for the nice report. It's always nice to see reports from Japan. I love how the rampers always wave good-bye! I always feel a very professional attitude by anyone involved in airline operations when flying in Japan.

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: BA319-131
Posted 2007-12-03 13:45:09 and read 19507 times.

Great report PH!! Smile

Loved the pix, shame the FA's were so alert to your cameras though.

Amazing to see a 744 with so many many empty seats, just such a sight!

I need to head back to Japan asap, though 2009 looks the earliest Sad

Look forward to the next report.

Thanks

Mark

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: EXAAUADL
Posted 2007-12-03 13:58:30 and read 19478 times.

Does either JL or AN fly CTS-OKA???? How long would that flight be? Like 3+ hrs? Would they have a meal or snack on that flight?

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2007-12-03 14:17:01 and read 19457 times.



Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Probably some 100 people hung around in the gate when boarding was started - what a low load factor on a 447-seating 747-400D!

Correction on my part: The seatmap section on JAL's homepage is available in Japanese only and somehow I picked the wrong map earlier today when checking the exact seat numbers again. JAL does operate 747-400s with 447 seats in two classes (and Eco on upper deck), but the 747-400Ds like JA8905 are equipped with 546 seats.


PH

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2007-12-03 14:36:32 and read 19425 times.

Thanks for all your kind replies!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
While Japan is still an uncovered place in my log, it was an real interesting read.

Can´t wait for more Japanese storys coming up.

Thanks, Markus. I try to get the next part online next week.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 4):
And I see you broke the photo taking rules ... good for you

 Smile

Quoting B747forever (Reply 5):
Great to see that I am not the only one that brings binoculars with me on board.

Standard equipment. But too heavy...  Wink

Quoting Door5right (Reply 7):
Lovely to see the 'bow' to the Queen of the Skies; also the waves upon departing the ramp. Little touches of courtesy much appreciated by passengers and crew alike who spot them I am sure.

Absolutely. These rituals give every flight a special one.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 8):
I always feel a very professional attitude by anyone involved in airline operations when flying in Japan.

Definitely, yes. Everything's perfectly handled and organized.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 9):
Amazing to see a 744 with so many many empty seats, just such a sight!

Would be interesting to know the average load factor. I guess it was just a Monday-specific issue.

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 10):
Does either JL or AN fly CTS-OKA???? How long would that flight be? Like 3+ hrs? Would they have a meal or snack on that flight?

Interestingly, I haven't found any nonstops between CTS and OKA.


PH

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: Airbuseric
Posted 2007-12-03 14:38:07 and read 19419 times.

Hi PH

Good report on JAL! Of course, digital camera use is mainly prohibited on any carrier in the world during takeoffs and landings, but discretion always helps. I never had any trouble on my 'many' JL flights, either in C or Y class.
Indeed the loadfactor on the 744D is rather dissappointing, that's more common on domestic runs then people might think nowadays. This is also one of the reasons that JL (and NH) are downgrading the fleet to smaller planes. JL's 744D won't last long anymore, and will be replaced by smaller 787's and even 737-800's.
btw, did you know that JL operates about 5 normal B744 with even 449 seats in 2-class config for international flights? It's serving mainly on runs out of NRT, to MXP, FCO, YVR, MEX and GRU nowadays.

Nice pics, and already looking forward to your next report...

Cheers,
Eric

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2007-12-03 14:51:08 and read 19400 times.

Hi Eric!

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 13):
Indeed the loadfactor on the 744D is rather dissappointing, that's more common on domestic runs then people might think nowadays. This is also one of the reasons that JL (and NH) are downgrading the fleet to smaller planes.

The load on our FUK-HND 777 flight wasn't good either. With all these new offshore airports, airlines can increase frequencies using smaller aircraft.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 13):
btw, did you know that JL operates about 5 normal B744 with even 449 seats in 2-class config for international flights? It's serving mainly on runs out of NRT, to MXP, FCO, YVR, MEX and GRU nowadays.

Yes, they are the ones which I had found earlier today in the Japanese seatmap section (reply 11). The more spacious upper deck Eco class must be an excellent choice on longhaul flights.


PH

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: Triple7man
Posted 2007-12-03 19:34:58 and read 19104 times.

Japan airports are a wonderful place for plane spotting. They have outdoor terraces where you can get fairly close to the planes. (No such luck in the U.S).
I had the same issue with using my digital camera (digi cami in Japanese), when I started taking pics at the gate. The flight attendant told me not to take pics but she said after we take off it's OK. ANA in their inflight magazine also have a list of prohibited electronic devices, and use of digital cameras is also prohibited during take off, landing and at the gate. Not sure why, because it doesn't emit the same kind of waves or whatever a cellfone does.
The Japanese are always very polite and they have their way of doing things, so you will always see a line of them bowing when your plane starts to taxi.
I can understand your disappointment at no meal service, however most flights within Japan are relatively short if you compare to an international flight (For example, 12:00 NRT-JFK, 13:30 JFK-NRT). Still I have always enjoyed inflight dining.
747-400D, are exclusively used in Japan. I have never flown on one (only for long flights, like LAX-HKG, LAX-SYD) because I prefer the 777, both international and domestic. But it does seem strange to see one take off with such a short run, compared to a heavy one on one of the long flights I mentioned.
I enjoyed your pics and report, and I hope you enjoyed your stay in Japan (I have also taken the train through Bavaria, which I think is beautiful)

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: TurkishWings
Posted 2007-12-04 00:06:40 and read 18934 times.

Excellent report... Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with us...

Do you have any pictures of Okinawa too? I am very much interested to see them....

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2007-12-04 11:03:15 and read 18635 times.

Thanks for your new replies!

Quoting Triple7man (Reply 15):
ANA in their inflight magazine also have a list of prohibited electronic devices, and use of digital cameras is also prohibited during take off, landing and at the gate. Not sure why, because it doesn't emit the same kind of waves or whatever a cellfone does.

Yes, it's also on ANA's safety cards. Really weird.

Quoting Triple7man (Reply 15):
I enjoyed your pics and report, and I hope you enjoyed your stay in Japan (I have also taken the train through Bavaria, which I think is beautiful)

Japan is a fantastic country to visit, can't wait to go again!

Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 16):
Do you have any pictures of Okinawa too? I am very much interested to see them....

It was just a six-hour stopover, we didn't leave the airport. Maybe next time.  Smile


PH

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: DALCE
Posted 2007-12-04 11:19:10 and read 18620 times.

Hi PH,

Great report, it was a pleasure to read! Also great pictures from both flights!
What a pity that the load-factors aren't that good anymore, it would be a loss for aviation to see the 744D phased out.
Would there be a second hand market for them?

Thanks for sharing, and I'm already looking forward to the next part of your Asian Adventures  Smile
Gruss,
Joost ( DALCE )

Topic: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: Buck3y3nut
Posted 2007-12-04 19:54:23 and read 18473 times.

wow... just an excellent trip report. The pictures are just amazing especially the Pokemon plane you captured. What a nice job... Really really enjoyed reading the report and looking at the pictures...

thanks a lot for writing this report and sharing it with us.  Smile

Keep up the excellent work!!!

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: Centrair
Posted 2007-12-05 22:27:15 and read 18217 times.

Great report. Happy you got to visit Nagoya. Centrair is nice eh?

There aren't enough good reports like this. Well done. Hope we can have more visitors to this country soon. It is a Spotters paradise.

Though FUK is the 3rd biggest by pax, it is the 8th largest city. Sad that FUK doesn't have non-stops to Europe or North America. It had DL for a while but that stopped 6 years ago. DL still has rights to fly to FUK.

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: OB1783P
Posted 2007-12-06 03:46:56 and read 18122 times.

Very enjoyable report with great, crisp photos and just the right amount of detail. Thank you for posting!

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: Vio
Posted 2007-12-06 12:00:33 and read 17922 times.

Awesome photos!!! Thanks for the report. Japan is something I've always wanted to do  Smile

Cheers,

Vio

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: OA260
Posted 2007-12-06 15:40:24 and read 17885 times.

Brilliant TR and love those old headphones....I have a pair from a OA flight I took years ago on their 747-200. Never thought id see them again.

The Pokemon livery is cool. Japan looks like a cool place to go to do some domestics on 747's !!!

Quoting Door5right (Reply 7):
Queen of the Skies

Where was the A380 pics??? LOL......  stirthepot 


Thanks for sharing

OA260

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2007-12-07 10:11:15 and read 17741 times.

Thanks a lot for all new replies!

Quoting DALCE (Reply 18):
What a pity that the load-factors aren't that good anymore, it would be a loss for aviation to see the 744D phased out.
Would there be a second hand market for them?

I'd say yes, there was also a market for the classics. But this could change with rising fuel prices.

Quoting Buck3y3nut (Reply 19):
The pictures are just amazing especially the Pokemon plane you captured. What a nice job...

That was luck...  Smile

Quoting Centrair (Reply 20):
Happy you got to visit Nagoya. Centrair is nice eh?

There aren't enough good reports like this. Well done. Hope we can have more visitors to this country soon. It is a Spotters paradise.

It's indeed a paradise. And definitely not as expensive as many people think.

Quoting Centrair (Reply 20):
Sad that FUK doesn't have non-stops to Europe or North America. It had DL for a while but that stopped 6 years ago. DL still has rights to fly to FUK.

An extended runway would probably help - but the airport is completely surrounded by residential areas.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 23):
I have a pair from a OA flight I took years ago on their 747-200. Never thought id see them again.

Surprising Japanese skies...


PH

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: Sabena332
Posted 2007-12-09 11:11:32 and read 17586 times.

Hey guys,

Thanks for posting another great report of your Japan adventure, text and pics are top as always!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The Toyoko-Inn at the airport island is not a luxury hotel, but quite new, clean and functional. What's most remarkable: tiny rooms - but they are well-equipped with any kinds of amenities. Breakfast included, (coffee/tea and pastries), friendly staff, not bad for some 46 Euro (double room).

Incredible cheap, I always thought that Japan is damned expensive. Good to know that it is not!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Very individual service for us - the F/As had realized we were the only ones on board not from Japan and had correctly assumed we wouldn't be happy with the choice of Japanese newspapers available at the door.

Very attentive service.  thumbsup 

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The unknown plane had become bigger and bigger - and it looked extremely colorful. Satchmo and I finally concluded that it must be a 747 in special colors. Then it was clear: ANA Pokemon Jumbo

Awesome!  Wow! That is what I call inflight entertainment!

I am looking forward to the next part.

Patrick

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2007-12-11 13:09:46 and read 17454 times.



Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 25):
Incredible cheap, I always thought that Japan is damned expensive. Good to know that it is not!

Thanks for your feedback, Patrick. Japan is definitely not as expensive as many people may think. Not only cheap hotels are available - I was also surprised about restaurant prices. Going out for dinner even at places like KIX or NRT can be cheaper than in small German towns...and it's a paradise for all those who like Sushi.  Smile


PH

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: Leskova
Posted 2007-12-29 15:20:20 and read 17026 times.

Another great report... I never thought I'd ever get to see those old fashioned headphones again...  rotfl  ... thank goodness that the days of those things are numbered.

You really did get to see lots of special liveries - quite a bit more interesting than over here in Europe, where you already have to be grateful for the extra color put on a plane by means of a small sticker applied somewhere on the fuselage.

Japan really does look quite beautiful on those pictures....

P.S.: Was Satchmo the guy who you were here in Frankfurt with when we met in... when was that... 2005?

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2007-12-30 14:24:50 and read 16906 times.

Thanks for your feedback, Frank!

Quoting Leskova (Reply 27):
P.S.: Was Satchmo the guy who you were here in Frankfurt with when we met in... when was that... 2005?

Yes, that's Satchmo. Indeed, the meeting was in 2005 already - how time has passed. It's time for a new meeting - maybe next year?


PH

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: LASOctoberB6
Posted 2007-12-31 01:17:08 and read 16833 times.

Wow! I love this trip report! I'm currently taking Japanese at my school as my major. This inspires me to do better in all of my classes. I was able to read the hiragana Tamagotchi and a few words on the safety cards! Awesome.. I showed my Pokemon obsessed friends JA8956 and they loved it. I was glad to be able to incorporate my major with their love for Pokemon with my love for airplanes.

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: LO231
Posted 2007-12-31 05:42:16 and read 16796 times.

Loved the report!

I'm planning a trip to Japan in 2008, albeit a short one of a week, want to visit TYO, OSA, and HIJ.

I wondered if I may contct you fopr some tips regarding hotels?

Thanks for sharing!

regards,
LO231

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2008-01-02 07:21:04 and read 16605 times.

Thanks for your feedback!

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 29):
This inspires me to do better in all of my classes. I was able to read the hiragana Tamagotchi and a few words on the safety cards!

I can only encourage you to improve your Japanese - I wish I had been able during my trip to talk to all these many friendly people in their language.

Quoting LO231 (Reply 30):
I'm planning a trip to Japan in 2008, albeit a short one of a week, want to visit TYO, OSA, and HIJ.

You will love it. One week is not bad, my trip wasn't much longer. If you have any questions, contact me.


PH

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: SR117
Posted 2010-11-25 23:59:31 and read 13507 times.

Nagoya Centrair is a pretty nice airport, I really loved it when I was there in 2008. The viewing terrace, the nice shops, the sento bath with view of the runways, really, it's a great little airport ! I only wish it was busier.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The aft section on the main deck was totally empty...

There's something funky about this 747, it looks very holiday-like. I wonder if was one of the specially designated 747s for beach markets. I also notice that the FA's seem to have a different yellow shirt uniform vs white as is usual, are they the Thai flight attendants that JAL hires for Jalways flights? I always thought Jalways was just for Honolulu flights.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We took our seats in row 12 and just started taking pictures when a F/A asked us to switch off the cameras - even though the plane was still parked!

The info on ANA's magazine says photos aren't allowed while the plane is on the ground, of course, if nobody sees you then...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

Most of the time aircraft land on runway 16 - but sometimes runway 34 is used for landings which requires a sharp turn on final descent.

Very lucky guy !! I saw a few planes on downwind to runway 34 and thought that the passengers must have gotten a great view. It's also nice to see heavy jets flying so low over downtown Fukuoka, too bad it was cloudy most times that I could see planes. It's impressive to see big airplanes doing such tight maneuvers.

Thanks again for the reports
Ricardo

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: seven3seven
Posted 2010-11-26 14:52:19 and read 12900 times.

Why do people feel it necessary to black out people's eyes? I think its completely unnecessary.

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: flightsimboy
Posted 2010-11-27 13:03:37 and read 12536 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We were pushed back three minutes early and soon started taxiing. And whenever a plane starts taxiing in Japan, the rampers - mostly wearing helmets and white gloves - form a line and start waving:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Finally, as soon as the plane has passed their position, they make a low bow. With these rituals the rampers say goodbye and show respect for customers and crews. Simply great! bigthumbsup
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The two F/As on the upper deck were the next ones to perform a ritual. With synchronized movements they checked doors and overhead bins - slowly pointing along the bins with outstretched arms. Then again synchronized movements when they explained the safety instructions. Low bow before sitting down, low bow again after standing up after takeoff. Very impressing. thumbsup

What a great culture the Japanese have!! I hope to someday experience this first hand!

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-11-29 11:34:30 and read 12037 times.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 32):
Thanks again for the reports

Thanks for your feedback, Ricardo!

Quoting SR117 (Reply 32):
Nagoya Centrair is a pretty nice airport, I really loved it when I was there in 2008. The viewing terrace, the nice shops, the sento bath with view of the runways, really, it's a great little airport ! I only wish it was busier.

I can only agree. It needs some more carriers and movements.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 32):
I wonder if was one of the specially designated 747s for beach markets.

It was a regular 744D operating on domestic routes only.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 32):
It's impressive to see big airplanes doing such tight maneuvers.

  

Quoting seven3seven (Reply 33):
Why do people feel it necessary to black out people's eyes? I think its completely unnecessary.

You are free to do whatever you want, but I do not expose people on the Internet without consent.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 34):
What a great culture the Japanese have!! I hope to someday experience this first hand!

I can only recommend to visit that country!


PH

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: fersolieslava
Posted 2011-01-17 00:08:20 and read 10463 times.

This was cool and liked very much the mid-air picture of the Pókemon 747!   Okinawa will be a future destination in my travel log, so it was to have at least a first look at my future first dight of the place!   Have a great 2011!
Fer

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: ORDnHKG
Posted 2011-01-17 01:11:41 and read 10400 times.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 32):
There's something funky about this 747, it looks very holiday-like.

It looks dated instead of holiday-like, even with the 70s headsets.

NH's 744D on the other hand look modern, no wonder JL went to bankrupt.

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: 777ORD
Posted 2011-01-17 06:18:23 and read 10160 times.

great TR! Love the detail! Haven flown in/out of Okinawa NAHA 6 times... I can say I know exactly where your pictures were taken, and they are some of the best sites at the airport, too. If you go to the 4th floor where the Kaiten sushi ("Sushi go around") is, there is a great view, too. But, well overpriced sushi.

The approach into Naha is just stunning. and knowing that shortly after arriving you'll be stepping in to nearly year round warmth, oh it's just excellent!

Next time you get a chance to go to Okinawa. There are so many outstanding restaurants there. You can eat for days and never try it all!

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: TravelsUK
Posted 2011-01-18 05:00:14 and read 9577 times.

Very interesting TR, great to see something a bit different so thank you!

One question and slightly off topic - why do you black out faces? I have noticed this being done by other German and Austrian contributors and have always wonderd why as other nationalities don't.

Topic: RE: Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-01-22 07:00:49 and read 8751 times.

Quoting fersolieslava (Reply 36):
This was cool and liked very much the mid-air picture of the Pókemon 747!

Thanks, good to hear you liked it.

Quoting fersolieslava (Reply 36):
Okinawa will be a future destination in my travel log, so it was to have at least a first look at my future first dight of the place!

I hope we'll see a trip report!

Quoting fersolieslava (Reply 36):
Have a great 2011!

Thanks, same to you!

Quoting 777ORD (Reply 38):
great TR! Love the detail!

Many thanks for your comments!

Quoting 777ORD (Reply 38):
Next time you get a chance to go to Okinawa. There are so many outstanding restaurants there. You can eat for days and never try it all!

I will keep that in mind!

Quoting TravelsUK (Reply 39):
Very interesting TR, great to see something a bit different so thank you!

Thanks a lot for your feedback!

Quoting TravelsUK (Reply 39):
One question and slightly off topic - why do you black out faces?

I simply don't want to expose strangers in pictures without their consent.


PH


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