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Topic: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-12-25 10:55:48 and read 31599 times.



Background
Fifth Freedom is a magic term in aviation enthusiast circles. Fifth Freedom enables us to fly on airlines without having to travel all the way to their home countries. One of the various non-European airlines with traffic rights between some European cities is Kuwait Airways. I had been interested in the carrier and its operations between Frankfurt and Geneva (A340-300) and between Rome and Paris (A300-600) for a long time. By the end of May I finally decided to book a flight on one of these routes. It soon turned out that flying times and fares were most attractive on the Rome-Paris run. Getting on the A300-600 was not a priority, but of course I wasn't unhappy about another ride on that meanwhile classic and more or less rare bird.

The next task was to find attractive flights to Rome and from Paris. One-way fares to Rome were insanely expensive, but I soon discovered a reasonably priced MUC-FCO-MUC round trip on Alitalia, operated by an Air One CityLiner CRJ900. In order to avoid fare increases and booking fees I quickly bought the tickets on Expedia and then started searching for a hotel and interesting return flight options.

Kuwait Airways would be my 98th airline and Air One CityLiner would be my 99th, so of course I tried to complete my itinerary with airline No. 100. Unfortunately, I didn't find any interesting and reasonably priced options between Paris and Munich. Then I decided to have a look at the Air France A380 service to London. I hadn't wanted to book a trip for the sole reason of getting on that bird, but why not add it to an existing itinerary? One-way fares were too expensive, but I found a round trip for 78 Euro and quickly booked it on Air France's website.

Now I needed to find a flight to Munich, but again I wasn't impressed by the available options at first. easyJet offered relatively low fares, but I didn't like the idea of a transfer from Heathrow to Gatwick. I finally was about to book an ordinary British Airways A319 flight, but then I suddenly discovered a well-timed connection offered by Austrian Airlines: bmi A320 to Vienna and Tyrolean Airways Fokker 100 to Munich. I wasn't amused about the price, but I couldn't resist to get on Tyrolean which would be my 100th airline. I booked the remaining flights on Expedia and finally reserved a room at the Ibis CDG Terminal hotel.

Part 1 can be found here:

Fifth Freedom Tidbit: Kuwait Airways A300-600 (by PlaneHunter Dec 2 2010 in Trip Reports)




Sunday, 18 July 2010
Paris (CDG) - London (LHR)
Air France AF1980

10:05-10:25 (12:01-12:25)
Flying time: 00:47 (hrs)
Economy Class, Seat 93K

Airbus A380-861
F-HPJA (MSN 033)
Built in 02/2009 and delivered in 10/2009


1st flight on F-HPJA
3rd A380 flight
3rd A380 carrier
(status prior to flight LH380)



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After logging several more registrations from my hotel room...


...I enjoyed the excellent breakfast buffet, checked out and took the CDGVAL to Terminal 2. I had already printed my boarding pass at home, so there was no need to stay in the Terminal 2E check-in hall.

It was my first journey on Air France after the company had introduced the automatic check-in for most short and medium haul flights. Whenever you book on www.airfrance.com you automatically receive the boarding pass 30 hours before departure. At the time of booking I hadn't been able to select a seat, but I had requested a window seat. Unfortunately, during the automatic check-in process, the system assigned me a window seat in the front section on the main deck. I had been seated on the main deck on Emirates and Singapore Airlines, so I really wanted to try the A380's upper deck this time. Some 28 hours prior to departure I checked the seatmap and found out that all window seats on the upper deck weren't available any more. So I chose seat 93K in the end, an aisle seat on the upper deck - not optimal, but still acceptable. I didn't check the seatmap again at the airport and went straight to security where I joined a long queue.

20 minutes later I arrived at the gate and was glad to find out that F-HPJA, the first A380 in the fleet, would operate flight AF1980. Unfortunately, taking good pictures was impossible:



Sister ship F-HPJB was parked at the adjacent gate:



I still had plenty of time left, so I walked to the front end of the concourse where I could enjoy great views of two runways, some taxiways and some gates. I and was able to log many new registrations within an hour, one of the most interesting birds was Air France 777-300ER F-GZNE in Skyteam colors:



Finally, it was time to return to the gate and I wasn't amused to find a large crowd there. I wasn't sure where I should line up at first, but then I noticed signs for both main deck and upper deck passengers. Apparently, numerous people had not seen or understood the signs and chosen the wrong queues. Anyway, boarding commenced early so it was obvious that all passengers would be on board for an on-time departure.

I had been expecting that Air France would also use the upper deck jetway for boarding, but the corresponding escalators were blocked off. Friendly flight attendants welcomed me at a main deck door and directed me to the stairs. Of course I took a picture of the famous "salon":



Business Class seats:





The 19-inch wide Economy Class seats are hard, but still comfortable...





...and the 34-inch seat pitch must be appreciated, too:



Welcome screen:



I really liked the low mood lighting during boarding:



Rear stairway:



Taking pictures through the windows on the upper deck isn't less difficult than doing so on the main deck. Air France 747-400, Aeromexico 767-200ER and Delta 757-200:



"Are you here for pleasure?" my seat neighbor asked me immediately after his arrival. "Pure pleasure", I replied and we started talking. After a few sentences he introduced himself as A.net user brightcedars and he was surprised when I introduced myself as PlaneHunter. Later we talked to the guy in seat 92L and found out that he was user babybus - what a coincidence to come together in that section without any planning!

Some time after boarding had been completed, the captain announced a flying time of 40 minutes, but also informed us about a slight delay due to a "last minute technical check". I was assuming that we would depart 15, 20 or maybe 30 minutes late, but I didn't think anything of it and we continued talking about past and future trips, aircraft types, orders etc. However, after not hearing any news for at least 30 minutes, we started wondering.

At 10:45, no less than 40 minutes after the scheduled departure time, the captain came back on the intercom. The first announcement was in French which I once learned in school. I don't remember much of that language, unfortunately, but I clearly understood a short term - and that was enough to know that something serious was going on: "Autorisation d'Airbus"  hot 
Before the captain repeated the announcement in English, brightcedars had translated the message: Air France was being faced with a technical problem and had to ask Airbus for authorization. I was shocked about these news considering that I had to catch a connecting flight at London. My bmi flight to Vienna would leave at 14:05 (London time) from Terminal 1 and I still had to pick up a boarding pass. There were more than four hours left, but I wasn't expecting an immediate departure of our A380.

My mood was getting worse when brightcedars told me that some flight attendants in the galley were already whispering about a possible cancellation. I knew well that I would be stranded at CDG in such a case. A rebooking to a later London flight would be useless, my connecting flight would be lost. I draw the conclusion that I would need to buy a new ticket to fly from Paris to Munich - and that would be very expensive.  embarrassed 

brightcedars was concerned about missing his first A380 flight, but he had booked a same-day return trip on the big bird - so at least he wouldn't face a financial loss. I had flown on two different A380s before, but of course I also didn't like the thought that I may not be able to add the AF model to my log. Flight attendants passed through the cabin several times during the waiting time and offered water, but I didn't want to drink anything.

Some time after the captain's announcement, when a flight attendant was walking by, brightcedars took the chance and asked her in French what was going on. She then told him that, apparently, a ground vehicle had hit a cargo door.  embarrassed  After hearing this, I was almost convinced that the flight would be cancelled - and I started hoping that the worst case scenario would be announced soon so that I wouldn't lose too much time...

At 11:30, just after I had put back my camera, binoculars and other stuff to my hand luggage, the captain made a new announcement. I was prepared for jumping up, but then he said: "Good news!" According to him, Airbus had given go ahead to operate the flight and the crew was just waiting for some signatures.  bigthumbsup   relieved 

All of us where relieved and we were now looking forward to the flight more than ever. However, nothing happened for another 30 minutes. Did a person in charge refuse to sign in the end?, I thought. My transfer time was shrinking and shrinking, only about two hours would be left after arrival. Transferring at LHR can be a pain and I was hoping that there would be an airside connection between Terminal 4 and Terminal 1.

Finally, exactly 1 hour and 56 minutes behind the scheduled departure time, the big bird started moving...PUSH-BACK!!!  thumbsup   thumbsup   thumbsup 

Now I truly enjoyed the tail camera views:



The massive wings make this taxiway appear quite narrow:



At 12:24 F-HPJA finally turned onto the runway, quietly accelerated...



...and gently lifted off after a short take-off roll:



While climbing away from the runway we were hit by turbulence, causing the wings to oscillate - quite interesting experience.


Suddenly the tail camera was hit by bird strike - or whatever it was. Unfortunately, the camera was switched off before I could take a picture (see the landing pictures).

Interesting air show feature:



Due to the short flying time I quickly checked the IFE options. Main menu:



The Thales TopSeries IFE system offers a choice of about 100 on-demand movies, 300 audio CDs, 26 games and many more features. In my opinion, the live cameras and the interactive maps beat them all:







The flight attendants started offering drinks and snacks only a few minutes after take-off - there was no time to lose on that short hop. Before they arrived at our row I quickly made some more cabin shots. I didn't see an empty seat in the upper deck Y Class section:



Stairway blocked off:



I ordered a Pepsi Max and also got very tasty cookies:



We crossed the channel at 24,000 feet and started descending only 23 minutes after take-off. Final approach:



Tail camera view again - this time a bit different:







We touched down 47 minutes after take-off and I was hoping that the plane would taxi straight to its gate. However, the plane had to stay on the taxiway for some time and didn't arrive at the gate earlier than 12:25, exactly two hours behind schedule. It took another ten minutes until I was able to leave the aircraft, so I had 1 hour and 30 minutes left for the transfer. Last picture of F-HPJA:


I followed the connection signs and was relieved when I found out that there was an airside bus transfer to Terminal 1.




Sunday, 18 July 2010
London (LHR) - Vienna (VIE)
bmi BD427
14:05-17:25 (14:13-17:30)
Flying time: 01:53 (hrs)
Economy Class, Seat 27A

Airbus A320-232
G-MIDX (MSN 1177), STAR ALLIANCE livery
Delivered in 03/2000


1st flight on G-MIDX
34th A320-200 flight
35th A320 flight
61st A32X flight



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About 20 minutes after leaving the AF A380 I arrived at a bmi transfer desk and picked up my boarding passes for the flights to Vienna and Munich. I had asked about a window seat in the rear section on the bmi A320 and the friendly female agent had kindly offered 27A in the last row. That was surprising considering that barely one hour was left until departure. Interestingly, the gate number wasn't even shown yet, so I had to "wait in lounge" some more time - that procedure at LHR never ceases to annoy me.  thumbsdown 

When I arrived at the gate some 45 minutes prior to departure I was happy to find G-MIDX there - the last remaining aircraft in the world wearing the old Star Alliance livery. Quite funny to see the Ansett, Mexicana and Varig logos on the fuselage:



I continued spotting as long as possible and stepped on board among the last few passengers. The flight was packed, but the middle seat in my row remained empty. The leather seats were quite comfortable, even though my seatback didn't stay in upright position:



Legroom was absolutely sufficient - definitely better than on the bmi A319 which I had flown on in early 2009:



Parked next to us was A321-200 G-MEDU, originally ordered and never taken up by BMed:



After boarding had been completed, the captain announced a traffic related delay of 15 minutes. I took the menu card from the seat pocket and was quite disappointed that only muffins and similar stuff would be available for sale - not even sandwiches. A friendly male flight attendant who was chatting with another passenger suddenly turned to me and said: "Sir, sir? It's free!" I was positively surprised to hear that. Drinks and snacks hadn't been offered free of charge on my first bmi flight between London and Dublin in early 2009. Apparently you only have to pay on domestic flights and other short services.

We finally left the gate eight minutes behind schedule and started taxiing to runway 27R. British Airways 777-200ER G-YMMI with anti-strike slogan:



After spending 16 minutes on various taxiways, G-MIDX powerfully accelerated. Climbing out of Heathrow is always a pleasure:











We stopped climbing for a while after breaking through the clouds:





Beautiful scenery:



Kent Airport on the left, the city of Ramsgate on the right:



26 minutes later we passed Brussels Airport:



The friendly flight attendants soon served an egg sandwich, an orange juice and black tea. Good to see that free range eggs were used:




I was really surprised about the high quality sandwich, it tasted very good. The black tea wasn't bad either.

Emirates 777-300 heading down to Dubai:



Cabin shot:



The remaining flight was uneventful - well, almost. The lady in the aisle seat was stressed for a while by her three kids who were seated in the opposite row. They were having a loud dispute and after the lady had failed to calm them down, she grabbed one of the kids and placed it next to me in the empty middle seat. The flight was almost over anyway...

Low clouds on approach to Vienna:



We touched down after a flying time of 1 hour and 53 minutes and taxied to a remote parking position:



I was very glad about that because I could take some more pictures of the plane which may get a new paint job soon:




After arriving at the terminal, I went straight to the rundown Hall B where my flight to Munich would depart from two hours later. I could have stayed elsewhere for a while, but I was neither hungry nor thirsty and viewing options in other airside areas wouldn't have been much better. I took a seat at my gate and kept reading a book and a newspaper while the whole area was getting more and more crowded.




Sunday, 18 July 2010
Vienna (VIE) - Munich (MUC)
Austrian Airlines OS117, operated by Tyrolean Airways
19:35-20:40 (19:43-20:45)
Flying time: 00:44 (hrs)
Economy Class, Seat 20A

Fokker 100
OE-LVL (MSN 11404), named "Odessa"
First delivered to American Airlines as N1421K in 07/1992


1st flight on OE-LVL
3rd Fokker 100 flight
4th Fokker 70/100flight
100th airline



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Former appearances as N1421K and C-GKZU:


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Boarding commenced on time, but we remained stuck in the bus for a while. There was a problem with someone's boarding pass and it took at least ten minutes to solve it. The bus finally brought us to OE-LVL, one of 15 Fokker 100s in the fleet:



Operated by Tyrolean - my 100th airline.  thumbsup 



After being welcomed by a friendly flight attendant, I made my way to row 20. I'm not sure what to think of the green color, but the old-style seats were quite comfortable:



What I definitely didn't like was the tight seat pitch:



Seat 20A - which I had selected in advance on OS' website - was just perfect: Engine on the left, wing on the right:



Engine close-up:



We left the parking position eight minutes behind schedule and I could take one last picture of good old G-MIDX which was still here:



It took another 13 minutes until OE-LVL noisily lifted off into the gray skies. This is what I would call "field artwork":





Clouds + evening sun = beautiful scenery:




There was an announcement during climb, but I didn't understand a single word due to engine noise. So who knows what they tried to tell us.

After the flight attendants had started serving drinks and snacks, I quickly took a cabin picture. Not a single empty seat on this evening service:


I also went to the lavatory and soon found out that the door lock didn't work properly, but I managed to be back before the flight attendants arrived at my row.

In light of Austrian's recent cost cutting measures I was expecting to get some crackers or probably a small sandwich, but the flight attendants served a salad box:



The mixed salad along with the dressing tasted very good - and the wholemeal bread wasn't bad either. Well done, Austrian:



Some 30 minutes after take-off we already started descending again. I would have preferred to keep cruising over the clouds some more time:





Allianz Arena:



Autobahn 9:



Only a few more moments to go:



OE-LVL touched down after a flying time of 44 minutes and quickly slowed down:



Privatair 737-800 operating for Lufthansa:



We stopped at a remote parking position five minutes behind schedule, next to Lufthansa A319 D-AILE:



One last picture of OE-LVL:


Some minutes later the bus dropped us off at the terminal and I felt sorry for numerous passengers who started running to get their connecting flights. Hopefully they made it. All I needed to do was to take the S-Bahn to the P81 car park. Three new airlines - including my 100th carrier - two flights on extraordinary widebodies and 123 new registrations for my spotting logbook - another PlaneHunting journey was successfully completed.  thumbsup 



Conclusion
The delay on Air France was nerve-racking, but there's no reason to complain about the airline. The problem was caused by a ground vehicle and the captain kept us updated. As soon as we had left the gate, I enjoyed the time on AF's A380 which offers lots of seating comfort and a great IFE system. Ground staff members and flight attendants were friendly and I was also satisfied with the catering on that very short flight. However, I didn't like the automatic check-in. Anyway, it's just a matter of time until I will book a long-haul flight on AF's A380.

My expectations hadn't been high after a rather disappointing experience in 2009, but this time bmi surprised me with friendly ground staff members and flight attendants, comfortable seating and good catering. I would definitely choose the carrier again.

I felt a bit cramped on the Fokker 100, but the flight on Tyrolean Airways was still a positive experience due to friendly staff and good catering. I wouldn't hesitate to book Austrian Airlines again, but I hope that the airport's Hall B will be refurbished soon.


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter



P.S.: Just in case you missed them - my previous trip reports:
Fifth Freedom Tidbit: Kuwait Airways A300-600
Ship Vs. Plane: Porto Santo Line & Sata Air Açores
Awesome Approach, Splendid Scenery: LIS, FNC & TAP
Guernsey, Ash Cloud Alarm & Mostly Empty SQ 77Ws
Totally Thrilling: Scenic Flight On Lufthansa A380
Cirrus D38, Adria CRJ & Captain Niki Lauda On Duty
Monarch Hot Meal, E195 & More: PMI-ALC-MAN-MUC
Premium Meal & Palma Spotting: MUC-PMI, DE 757-300
The Dead Slow Transfer: PEK-MUC On Air China A332
Cancellation Brings Joy: HKG-PEK on Dragonair A330
A380 Cacophony, 777 Star Livery: DXB-SIN-HKG on SQ
The Next 5* Carrier? MUC-MCT-DXB, Oman Air A330
Turkey For 1.5 Hrs: Daytrip To AYT On Sky Airlines
CO Scores Again: ATL-IAH-EWR-FRA On ERJ, 752 & 764
Riding The Ultra Long-Haul Twin: Delta 777-200LR
Pacific Coast Jaunt: 3 Carriers, E120, E140 & Fog
The Ultimate 737: LHR-IAH-PDX On CO 777 & 739ER
Bye Bye, Hell! TRD-OSL-TXL-NUE - DY/AB/HE DH4
My Trip To Hell: NUE-CPH-OSL-TRD On Cimber & SAS
SFO-YUL-FRA: Map- & Sleepless On Air Canada's 77W
Sin City Gloss & Virgin America's Chic First Class
Seat Dilemma & Canyon Glamour: FRA To LAX, AC 763
On Par With Air France? DTW-AMS-MUC, KLM A330
Goodbye, Red Tails! DC-9-40/50 & Chicago Tour
Champagne & World Of Coke: Air France A340 To ATL
"Mission A380": Disappointing Legs On BA/BD/EI
Delights Of Doha, 773 & 77W: DOH-DXB-LHR On EK
A380 Really a Step Forward? LHR-DXB-DOH On EK
Quality & Style: HKG-LHR On Air New Zealand 744
Taiwan Trio: TransAsia, UNI Air And The Taipei 101
"The Wings Of Taiwan": EVA Air A332, 744 Combi
SHA-SZX, Shanghai 757: Delayed By The Military
PEK-SHA, China Eastern A330 & Shanghai At Night
Striking Newcomer: Berlin-Beijing On Hainan A330
Short & Splendid: MXP-MUC On Air Dolomiti's 146
3 Hours On Blue1: HEL-MXP On The MD-90
BCN-MAD-ZRH-MUC: UX Shuttle Meets Swiss Quality
MUC-MAD-BCN: Star MD-87 & The Pain Of Vueling
Low Fares, Lovely Island: AK & Best Of Langkawi
4 Stars Or 5 Stars? FRA-KUL-FRA, Malaysia 777s
First And Last Time? JFK-FCO-MUC, Alitalia 777
JFK For 1 Day: Transatlantic Hop On CSA's A310
Sardinian Sun, Shiny New 73Gs & Cramped Mad Dog
Top And Flop: KIX-HEL-MUC, Finnair A320 & MD-11
The 524-Seat Twin-jet: HND-ITM On ANA 777-300
Kobe For 1 Hour: 767-Quickie On ANA & Skymark
Rocketing To Tokyo: FUK-HND On JAL (ex-JAS) 777
Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
MUC To Nagoya: Finnair E170 & (Old) "New" A340
Mad Dog, A320 Tech Delay & Best Of Lanzarote
Canaries Prop-Hopping: Islas Airways & Naysa
Canaries And Confusion: LH CRJ900 & Spanair A321
Hubbing For 162 Miles: HOQ-FRA-STR Ret On IQ/EW/LH
BOS-JFK-AMS-MUC: SSSS-Check And KLM 777
ATL-PIT-JFK-BOS: FL B717, JetBlue E190 And Delays
MUC-AMS-MEM-ATL On NWA A332 And 40-year-old DC-9
FRA-BKK-FRA Via CMB: SriLankan A332 & A343
BNE-SIN-DXB-MUC On Emirates B772ER & B773
2 Hours In Paradise: Hamilton Island (JQ/DJ)
BNE-SYD-BNE: Domestic Run On QF’s Oldest B747-400
Testing Qantas: SYD-MEL-SYD-BNE (B738, B763, A332)
Going Down Under: MUC-DXB-SYD On EK A332 & A345
9/11 Review: Failed Trip To LAX - Fuel Dump Pics
Surprised By NIKI's Newest A320 & Screw-up By AB
Leisure Vs. Full Service: Condor & SN Brussels
"betterFly" On LH: Business Class For 99 Euro
Weekend Transatlantic Trip (2): US A321 & B762
Transatlantic For A Weekend (1): MUC-DCA On US


[Edited 2010-12-25 11:54:43]

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: luxair747SP
Posted 2010-12-25 11:58:40 and read 31297 times.

Hi PH,
as usual very detailed and good TR.
The delay of the AF A380 in LHR reminds me of my delay with exactly that aircraft in LHR, looks like it was the case frequently.
You are lucky to have got the BD logojet. The interieur somehow reminds me of the old BA one.
And the salad on such a short hop with tyrolean is just awesome. They really should keep that.
All in all very nice read, perfect for a christmas day evening
Thank you a lot for sharing and merry christmas
Johannes

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2010-12-25 11:59:54 and read 31293 times.

Hi, PH,

congrats to score you´re airline no. 100, well done.

A nice variety of airlines and aircraftt here with these part of you´re story.
The AF380, also done here, together with a nice service on the very oldfashioned looking A320 and the Tyrolean F100.

Close to two hours delay and LHR is not the easiest airport for connections as you stated, it works in the end,
something like this coming up from my hand also soon.

Happy Christmas once more,
Markus(FLIEGER67)

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: CaptainRed
Posted 2010-12-25 12:07:48 and read 31263 times.

Hi Planehunter,

congratulations for logging your 100th airline and thanks for this nice trip report, enjoyed it very much. I could really feel with you during that delay at CDG, having experienced something like this as well just last year. Fortunately everything worked out well for you. That A380 flight really seems to attract a few a.netters.

Greetings
CaptainRed

[Edited 2010-12-25 12:08:08]

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-12-25 12:08:10 and read 31255 times.

Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 1):
Hi PH,
as usual very detailed and good TR.
Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 1):
Thank you a lot for sharing and merry christmas
Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 1):
All in all very nice read, perfect for a christmas day evening

Hi Johannes, thanks a lot for your comments!

Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 1):
And the salad on such a short hop with tyrolean is just awesome. They really should keep that.

Yes, I hope that, too. It's a welcome change in a sandwich-dominated business.  

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
Hi, PH,

congrats to score you´re airline no. 100, well done.

Thanks a lot, Markus!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
Close to two hours delay and LHR is not the easiest airport for connections as you stated, it works in the end, something like this coming up from my hand also soon.

Sounds interesting, I will watch out for it.


Merry Christmas again!


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-12-25 12:12:46 and read 31238 times.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 3):
congratulations for logging your 100th airline and thanks for this nice trip report, enjoyed it very much.

Hi CaptainRed, thanks for your feedback! We almost posted at the same time.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 3):
I could really feel with you during that delay at CDG, having experienced something like this as well just last year. Fortunately everything worked out well for you.

Good to hear!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 3):
That A380 flight really seems to attract a few a.netters.

Yes - and these AF A380 operations have probably been the most covered ones ever.


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: AOMlover
Posted 2010-12-25 12:16:42 and read 31225 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After a few sentences he introduced himself as A.net user brightcedars and he was surprised when I introduced myself as PlaneHunter. Later we talked to the guy in seat 92L and found out that he was user babybus - what a coincidence to come together in that section without any planning!

I was here as well ! I flew the big whale to London and back to Paris on the same day.

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2010-12-25 12:17:09 and read 31226 times.

Hi PH,

great report. Reminds me on my own A380 flights on AF. Sorry about the delay, although they seem to solve the problem professionally, also when it comes to information to the passengers.
bmi is good also. Always my favourite UK carrier, it's such a shame that they pulled out of AMS. Although I am surprised to see a free sandwich. Is this the positive influence by LH nowadays? Love their blue/brown interior a lot, now they only need to bring their colours in shape on the outside. MIDX is on my log also, many years ago already.

OS was alright indeed, I got the same salad box also last summer on a F100 flight, VIE-AMS. A bit strange maybe, but I found it an original choice for an airline to serve like this. After my last experiences on them, OS is not my favourite airline, also VIE is among the worst 'large' airports in Europe, not a pleasant place to stay.

Compliments for the good picture quality again!

Eric

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-12-25 12:23:18 and read 31193 times.

Quoting AOMlover (Reply 6):
I was here as well ! I flew the big whale to London and back to Paris on the same day.

Very interesting, where were you seated?

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
great report. Reminds me on my own A380 flights on AF.
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):

Compliments for the good picture quality again!

Hi Eric, many thanks for your comments. I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
Sorry about the delay, although they seem to solve the problem professionally, also when it comes to information to the passengers.

  

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
Is this the positive influence by LH nowadays?

I hope so!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
Love their blue/brown interior a lot, now they only need to bring their colours in shape on the outside.

Now they only need to install TV screens...

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
After my last experiences on them, OS is not my favourite airline, also VIE is among the worst 'large' airports in Europe, not a pleasant place to stay.

Yes, I will also try to stay away from VIE for the time being.


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: AOMlover
Posted 2010-12-25 12:33:50 and read 31144 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):
Very interesting, where were you seated?

On the lower deck from CDG to LHR, and on the upper deck on the way back. The upper deck is definitely better ! BTW, in case you're a Flying Blue member, did you get the 2000 miles credited to your account as a compensation for the delay ?

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-12-25 12:38:32 and read 31121 times.

Quoting AOMlover (Reply 9):
The upper deck is definitely better !

Yes, I can only agree!

Quoting AOMlover (Reply 9):
BTW, in case you're a Flying Blue member, did you get the 2000 miles credited to your account as a compensation for the delay ?

I got only 1000 because I only flew CDG-LHR. Not bad, though.


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: Luftfahrer
Posted 2010-12-25 12:39:31 and read 31119 times.

Merry Christmas, PlaneHunter! It was great to see you further reducing your backlog by contributing another great, summerly trip report which certainly reminded me of warmer days this year.   

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"Good news!"

Good to hear your travel plans weren't shattered before the journey even began!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Now I truly enjoyed the tail camera views:

Who wouldn't?   Perhaps used for purposes other than intended, I like that airlines offer their passengers this spectacular view.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Good to see that free range eggs were used

Good to see someone actually noticing.  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Operated by Tyrolean - my 100th airline.

Impressive! But I presume you are not at the end line yet. alt="Wink"/>
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Only a few more moments to go:

Gotta love thhe lighting in those pictures.

Thanks for sharing, I'm looking forward to seeing more from your side.

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-12-25 12:45:45 and read 31093 times.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 11):
Merry Christmas, PlaneHunter! It was great to see you further reducing your backlog by contributing another great, summerly trip report which certainly reminded me of warmer days this year.

Merry Christmas, Marius! Many thanks for your comments, I'm glad you liked this summer report.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 11):
Perhaps used for purposes other than intended, I like that airlines offer their passengers this spectacular view.

Yes, just too bad you don't find that on SQ's A380.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 11):
Good to see someone actually noticing.

I hope many people take notice in everyday life...

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 11):
Impressive! But I presume you are not at the end line yet.

I added seven more in October...and some more on schedule in 2011.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 11):
Thanks for sharing, I'm looking forward to seeing more from your side.

I'll soon start writing part 1 of my RTW trip series.


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: aflyingkiwi
Posted 2010-12-25 13:49:41 and read 30855 times.

Hi PH

Merry Christmas, Thank you for another great report and congratulations for having flown 100 airlines! I have to say I'm impressed with the service you got on all 3 airlines, especially on OS, that salad looks delicious.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The 19-inch wide Economy Class seats are hard, but still comfortable...

TBH that seat looks really uncomfortable, I guess it's made up by the good legroom.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
In my opinion, the live cameras and the interactive maps beat them all:

Looks like AF did a good job with the moving maps and camera options.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The friendly flight attendants soon served an egg sandwich, an orange juice and black tea. Good to see that free range eggs were used:

I never knew that bmi offered free food on these flights, a big    to them for that.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After being welcomed by a friendly flight attendant, I made my way to row 20. I'm not sure what to think of the green color, but the old-style seats were quite comfortable:

I have to say, I quite like that colour (maybe it's just my taste?). Well it's definitely better than some of the drab colours most airlines are choosing nowadays.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
I'll soon start writing part 1 of my RTW trip series.

Can't wait to read your RTW Series.

Regards
aflyingkiwi

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-12-25 14:27:50 and read 30715 times.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 14):
Merry Christmas, Thank you for another great report and congratulations for having flown 100 airlines! I have to say I'm impressed with the service you got on all 3 airlines, especially on OS, that salad looks delicious.

Merry Chrismas, aflyingkiwi! Thanks for your comments!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 14):
I never knew that bmi offered free food on these flights, a big to them for that.

I was really surprised about that.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 14):
I have to say, I quite like that colour (maybe it's just my taste?). Well it's definitely better than some of the drab colours most airlines are choosing nowadays.

Yes, I have to agree.


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: OA260
Posted 2010-12-25 23:11:01 and read 29949 times.

Hey great report and nice memories of the A380 CDG-LHR-CDG route ! BMI only offer free food on a small selection of EU routes thats normally what you get in Prem Y on the majority. Hope they pull their socks up in 2011 at least they should revert back to free meal deal for their Gold card holders like before . They still have a way to go IMHO.

Nice pics and read as usual.

Philip  

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-12-25 23:22:58 and read 29923 times.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 15):
Hey great report and nice memories of the A380 CDG-LHR-CDG route !
Quoting OA260 (Reply 15):
Nice pics and read as usual.

Hi Philip, thanks for your comments. If I remember correctly, you were the first user here to post a report about AF1980/1981.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 15):
BMI only offer free food on a small selection of EU routes thats normally what you get in Prem Y on the majority.

Interesting to know!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 15):
They still have a way to go IMHO.

LH will assist.


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: The777Man
Posted 2010-12-26 01:20:45 and read 29703 times.

Hi PlaneHunter!

Fantastic report with wonderful pictures! Too bad with the delay on AF but glad that you made the connection....I had a few hours delay one time LAX-NRT where I was to connect to PEK to fly OZ's 777. I ended up missing the connection and had to figure out a new routing and it worked out in the end, but I know very well what you were going thru.......

The sandwich on BD looks really good! I rebember flying BD LHR-FCO nine years ago and there were two meals served including one with ice cream as desert......

A bit odd with green as the color on the seats on Tyrolean/Austrian but a nice change from everything red including the stockings on the female flight attendants......

Very much looking forward to your next adventure! Very impressive with 100 airlines........

The777Man

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-12-26 01:31:37 and read 29684 times.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 17):
Fantastic report with wonderful pictures!

Hi Lars, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 17):
The sandwich on BD looks really good! I rebember flying BD LHR-FCO nine years ago and there were two meals served including one with ice cream as desert......

That sounds great, good old times.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 17):
A bit odd with green as the color on the seats on Tyrolean/Austrian but a nice change from everything red including the stockings on the female flight attendants......

Good point - and I have never liked these red stockings, btw.  



PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: dtswi
Posted 2010-12-26 02:22:33 and read 29585 times.

Dear PH,

I have to express my congratulations again - very objective text and the most beautiful pictures - are you a professional photographer ? you have the sense for framing.
look forward to your future reports.
I fly next week Thursday to BKK with swiss-will post a report, this time in eco. But we should still have some CH-cheese and hot towels   (I will bring my own ameny kit, as this is not standard anymore I think).

Greets,
Daniel

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-12-26 03:39:48 and read 29442 times.

Quoting dtswi (Reply 19):
I have to express my congratulations again - very objective text and the most beautiful pictures - are you a professional photographer ? you have the sense for framing.
look forward to your future reports.

Hi Daniel, thank you very much! I do work in the media business, but I'm not a professional photographer. I only use a compact camera, btw.

Quoting dtswi (Reply 19):
I fly next week Thursday to BKK with swiss-will post a report, this time in eco. But we should still have some CH-cheese and hot towels

Sounds interesting, I will watch out for the report. Have fun!


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: akhmad
Posted 2010-12-26 04:43:39 and read 29330 times.

Hi PH,

First of all frohe Weihnachten and congratulations with your 100th airline. Great report as usual and very refreshing. I love to be reminded of the summertime during this winter.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After logging several more registrations from my hotel room...

Ah, a familiar view.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"Are you here for pleasure?" my seat neighbor asked me immediately after his arrival. "Pure pleasure", I replied and we started talking. After a few sentences he introduced himself as A.net user brightcedars and he was surprised when I introduced myself as PlaneHunter. Later we talked to the guy in seat 92L and found out that he was user babybus - what a coincidence to come together in that section without any planning!

Indeed. A.net meeting by surprise is always exciting.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Now I truly enjoyed the tail camera views:

I start to wonder whether it becomes a standard feature of A380.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Tail camera view again - this time a bit different:

Ouch, stained with blood.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"Sir, sir? It's free!"

  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
a salad box

Innovative service.

Thanks for sharing. I cannot wait to fly again myself.

Cheers,
Suryo

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-12-26 04:57:37 and read 29297 times.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
First of all frohe Weihnachten and congratulations with your 100th airline.

Hoi Suryo, prettig kerstfeest!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
Great report as usual and very refreshing. I love to be reminded of the summertime during this winter.

Thanks a lot, Suryo. I also enjoy reading about summertime in these winter days...

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
Indeed. A.net meeting by surprise is always exciting.

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):
I start to wonder whether it becomes a standard feature of A380.

SQ is the one and only A380 carrier not offering these cameras views.


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: babybus
Posted 2010-12-26 11:48:20 and read 28858 times.

A very accurate account of the day.

I didn't realize you were involved in such a long travel day. I was rushing off for a lunch appointment that day.

That blood on the camera must have been a large insect. I think if it hit a bird there would have been more blood. The camera lense on the tail doesn't look that big.

I guess the guy who hit the cargo door is now pushing trolleys somewhere.

Thanks for a great report.

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: OA260
Posted 2010-12-26 12:23:10 and read 28803 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 16):
Hi Philip, thanks for your comments. If I remember correctly, you were the first user here to post a report about AF1980/1981.

Yes seems like years ago even though it was just back in the Summer. A unique trip indeed.  

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: Contact Air
Posted 2010-12-26 13:49:27 and read 28649 times.

Hi PH,

Very interesting report and fantastic pictures. You really found an interesting was to get back home from CDG.

Good to hear that your A380-flight wasn't cancelled and you made your connection in time.

The meal on OS looks really good - impressive for such a short route.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"Are you here for pleasure?" my seat neighbor asked me immediately after his arrival. "Pure pleasure", I replied and we started talking. After a few sentences he introduced himself as A.net user brightcedars and he was surprised when I introduced myself as PlaneHunter. Later we talked to the guy in seat 92L and found out that he was user babybus - what a coincidence to come together in that section without any planning!

Indeed - very nice surprise! While many A.Netters took the chance to fly the A380 between CDG and LHR, it is still a coincidence that three of us meet on one aircraft in the same section.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
When I arrived at the gate some 45 minutes prior to departure I was happy to find G-MIDX there - the last remaining aircraft in the world wearing the old Star Alliance livery. Quite funny to see the Ansett, Mexicana and Varig logos on the fuselage

Wow, a real rarity.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
26 minutes later we passed Brussels Airport

Great picture.

Regards
Christoph

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2010-12-26 14:07:04 and read 28627 times.

Quoting babybus (Reply 23):
Thanks for a great report.

Hi babybus, thanks for your feedback. Good to hear from you!

Quoting babybus (Reply 23):
That blood on the camera must have been a large insect. I think if it hit a bird there would have been more blood. The camera lense on the tail doesn't look that big.

I remember the discussion about it on the civil aviation forum. Probably it was indeed an insect.

Quoting babybus (Reply 23):
I guess the guy who hit the cargo door is now pushing trolleys somewhere.

Who knows, would be interesting to hear more details about the incident.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 24):
A unique trip indeed.

  

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 25):
Very interesting report and fantastic pictures. You really found an interesting was to get back home from CDG.

Hi Christoph, thanks a lot for your comments!

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 25):
The meal on OS looks really good - impressive for such a short route.

Yes, I hope OS will keep offering these kinds of snacks/meals on short flights.


PH

[Edited 2010-12-26 14:07:34]

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: lychemsa
Posted 2010-12-27 01:40:41 and read 28121 times.

1. I noticed that seats on AF long haul are hard. After a few hours it gets to be somewhat uncomfortable. So your comment confirms what I thought also.
2. BMI seem to be better than BA.
3. I flew LH Vienna to Munich in 1972 on a B737. And they served "nothing." Just a drink.

Great to know legroom on A380 is a generous 34." Makes a huge difference over the lousy 31" on BA or even 32" on many other airlines.

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: CrimsonNL
Posted 2010-12-27 04:36:03 and read 27976 times.

Hi PH, thanks for this interesting trip report. Did the AF captain make all these delay information announcements in French? Or English as well?

Best regards, Martijn

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: 767747
Posted 2010-12-27 12:59:10 and read 27594 times.

Hi, PH!

Another great report. I love the photos from your flights .. great to see the beatiful European countryside. I know the feeling when it comes to delays; we just came down to RDU on Dec 24 and had a long delay in MSP that required 4 gate changes .. will cover this in an upcoming report. Definitely a frustating thing when they happen!

Austrian seems to offer really nice catering on short flights like this .. how nice!

Thanks for sharing,

Matthew

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: NZ107
Posted 2010-12-27 16:18:42 and read 27450 times.

Hi PH,

Another great TR, thanks for sharing!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Fifth Freedom is a magic term in aviation enthusiast circles. Fifth Freedom enables us to fly on airlines without having to travel all the way to their home countries

Talk about it - I was nearly at a stage where I had flown more 5th freedom trans Tasman flights! But my flights in a fortnight will soon take the NZ/QF tally up a bit more.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
an aisle seat on the upper deck - not optimal, but still acceptable

I'd love to try the upper deck.. Regardless whether it's a window or aisle.


It's always nice to meet up with A.Netters on flights! The exact same thing happened to me on my Convair flight! It kinda makes you feel less freakish  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
and the 34-inch seat pitch must be appreciated, too

Most definitely. Especially when there are only 2 seats alongside the window.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
When I arrived at the gate some 45 minutes prior to departure I was happy to find G-MIDX there - the last remaining aircraft in the world wearing the old Star Alliance livery.

Nice catch! Yes, it is funny that those airlines still remain on the fuselage!

Great to see that you enjoyed the F100 flight.. 100 representing the 100th airline for you - was that planned?  

It seems as though I'll stick to Y in OS if I get around to flying them..


Thanks again, looking forward to the next adventure of yours!


Cheers,
Nicholas

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: FlyingFinn76
Posted 2010-12-27 21:42:45 and read 27263 times.

Hi PH,

A nice report on a special flight with the whalejet. You also managed to find something rather interesting to take you home from Heathrow.

I'm still a bit pissed off at missing the A380 this summer, oh well. That delay sure sounded like a nerve wrecking thing, but glad that that you still made your connection and the flight operated just fine. BTW did they hand out the flight certificate at the end of the flight?

I flew BMI DUB-LHR-DUB back in 2003, it was quite a different airline back then - very classy with free service and everything. I think I need to give them another try soon, probably doing one of the Germany - LHR routes operated for LH as service standards on those should a bit better.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
It was my first journey on Air France after the company had introduced the automatic check-in for most short and medium haul flights.

I never knew that. Sounds like a very weird concept to me.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"Are you here for pleasure?" my seat neighbor asked me immediately after his arrival. "Pure pleasure", I replied and we started talking. After a few sentences he introduced himself as A.net user brightcedars and he was surprised when I introduced myself as PlaneHunter. Later we talked to the guy in seat 92L and found out that he was user babybus - what a coincidence to come together in that section without any planning!

Hehe. That's a nice coincidence indeed, being seated so close to each other. But then again these kind of flights do attract certain kinds of people!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Tail camera view again - this time a bit different:

Ouch, a bit of gore in there!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Kent Airport on the left, the city of Ramsgate on the right:

This reminds me that I really need to look hard into logging MSE next year!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
26 minutes later we passed Brussels Airport:

A great shot!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The mixed salad along with the dressing tasted very good - and the wholemeal bread wasn't bad either. Well done, Austrian:

Hey, that looks very good. Especially impressive considering the short flight. I've found the OS catering to be very good, although it's been a few years since I last flew them.

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: Palmjet
Posted 2010-12-28 01:17:11 and read 27155 times.

Guten Tag Planehunter - nice report of your flights earlier this year. I also did the AF 380 to CDG from LHR and it was indeed amazing that only after a very short time in the air, the aircraft was already descending!!! I also found it tricky to take pics in T2E in CDG although it was far better than 2F, that's for sure! Great views on your BMI flight including BRU from the air. I love flying over other airports enroute with a clear view. Hope you had a good Christmas! P/jet

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: bwaflyer
Posted 2010-12-28 02:23:34 and read 27128 times.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
Love their blue/brown interior a lot, now they only need to bring their colours in shape on the outside. MIDX is on my log also, many years ago already.

The interior is actually red white and blue to match the livery. The aircraft are currently receiving new interiors with chocolate brown seats and grey / brown carpets.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...=a.468735518010.258040.44218348010

All aircraft wear bmi or star alliance livery (apart from one G-MEDF which will be repainted in the next few weeks). G-MIDX has been wearing the billboard livery for a while now

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6992139&nseq=3

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):
Now they only need to install TV screens...

ummmmm - you watched the safety video on TV screens (unless they weren't working)! If you mean PTVs, then the longest flights these aircraft normally do are less than 2 hours (90% are less than 1 hour) so not really necessary. The midhaul fleet that operate longer flights have PTVs.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 31):
I think I need to give them another try soon, probably doing one of the Germany - LHR routes operated for LH as service standards on those should a bit better.

LHR-TXL / HAJ are bmi routes, and standard bmi service offered. Hanover is under 1:30, so BoB offered (complimentary on higher economy fares), Berlin is over 1:30 so complimentary catering.

LHR-HAM / DRS are Lufthansa routes operated on a dedicated bmi A319 with a Lufthansa interior and standard LH product

LHR-CGN is a Lufthansa route operated on a dedicated bmi A320 aircraft with a modified interior (1 less row of seats compared to the standard bmi interior) and standard LH catering.

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: FlyingFinn76
Posted 2010-12-28 02:56:10 and read 27100 times.

Quoting bwaflyer (Reply 33):
LHR-TXL / HAJ are bmi routes, and standard bmi service offered. Hanover is under 1:30, so BoB offered (complimentary on higher economy fares), Berlin is over 1:30 so complimentary catering.

LHR-HAM / DRS are Lufthansa routes operated on a dedicated bmi A319 with a Lufthansa interior and standard LH product

LHR-CGN is a Lufthansa route operated on a dedicated bmi A320 aircraft with a modified interior (1 less row of seats compared to the standard bmi interior) and standard LH catering

Hey BWA, thanks a lot for clarifying this! It is kinda hard keeping up with the different operated by/for combinations and what is on offer where.

BTW I've noticed BD is nowadays offering very cheap codeshare fares between HEL and LHR, either on the direct KF 717 service or via CPH on KF/SK metal. These fares usually undercut SK/KF by 20-30 EUR.

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2010-12-28 11:19:06 and read 26811 times.

Hi PH,

Great report and pictures, thanks for sharing this installment, looked fun, though the delay in CDG was a tad of a worry!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
G-MIDX there - the last remaining aircraft in the world wearing the old Star Alliance livery. Quite funny to see the Ansett, Mexicana and Varig logos on the fuselage:

- It's amazing bmi have taken so long to re-paint this plane, I would have thought there was some rule in the Star rule book about displaying the correct information, inc airline logos!

Good to see bmi give out free F&B on the VIE flights, I imagine they do this as it's operated for Austrian, I assume the same is true on the TXL run as it's opf LH.

Nice looking salad on the VIE-MUC sector, shame about the seat colour though!

Cheers

Mark

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: bwaflyer
Posted 2010-12-28 11:27:24 and read 26800 times.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 35):
Good to see bmi give out free F&B on the VIE flights, I imagine they do this as it's operated for Austrian, I assume the same is true on the TXL run as it's opf LH.

Both routes are bmi services in the same way as EDI / GLA etc. LH and OS cose share on the flights, as do other airlines. The only routes operated as wet leases for other airlines are LHR-DRS/HAM/CDN for LH, LHR-MXP for LH Italia and LHR-GVA for Swiss (and bmi regional NCL/BRS-BRU for Brussels Airlines). The catering rule is under 1:30 is BoB, and over 1:30 complimentary food.

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: AlwaysOnAPlane
Posted 2010-12-31 05:29:48 and read 26186 times.

PH, many congratulations on reaching your 100th airline. Nice achievement man.

Very nice report for this relaxing Friday afternoon.

I hate the feeling thinking about missing a connection while you can only sit and wait for the outcome. Very tense times indeed and can easily take something away from the enjoyment. I guess when you fly a lot, its going to happen from time to time. Anyway, all worked out in the end.

AF looks nice on the upper deck. A380 still missing from my log but i would appreciate the extra storage for the window passenger on the upper deck like the upper deck on the 747. Also, quite interesting to hear of and see the remains of that unfortunate bird on the camera.

Good to see the food service with bmi. I didn't know this to be the case. I only fly domestic with them and i was sad to see them remove free food for Diamond Club silver/gold a while back now. Good to know its there on euro runs.

F100, well, thats always a interesting way to go, even more so near the back.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
There was an announcement during climb, but I didn't understand a single word due to engine noise.

Love it.....


Again, nice report mate

Cheers, Lee

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-01-01 04:21:01 and read 25944 times.

First of all, Happy New Year to everyone!

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 27):
Great to know legroom on A380 is a generous 34." Makes a huge difference over the lousy 31" on BA or even 32" on many other airlines.

Yes, definitely beats many competitors.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 28):
Hi PH, thanks for this interesting trip report.

Hi Martijn, thanks for your comments!

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 28):
Did the AF captain make all these delay information announcements in French? Or English as well?

Yes, the English announcements followed immediately after the French ones.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 29):
Another great report. I love the photos from your flights .. great to see the beatiful European countryside.

Thanks a lot, Matthew!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 29):
Definitely a frustating thing when they happen!

  

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 30):
Another great TR, thanks for sharing!

Many thanks, Nicholas!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 30):
Most definitely. Especially when there are only 2 seats alongside the window.

I would choose seats in that section on long-haul flights, too.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 30):
Great to see that you enjoyed the F100 flight.. 100 representing the 100th airline for you - was that planned?

No, definitely not. I hadn't even thought about the analogy before you posted this!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 30):
Thanks again, looking forward to the next adventure of yours!

You know well what to expect...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 31):
A nice report on a special flight with the whalejet. You also managed to find something rather interesting to take you home from Heathrow.

Hi FlyingFinn, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 31):
I'm still a bit pissed off at missing the A380 this summer, oh well.

I'm sure you'll soon present an interesting itinerary including an A380 flight.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 31):
BTW did they hand out the flight certificate at the end of the flight?

Yes, I took one, but didn't ask for a signature.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 31):
Sounds like a very weird concept to me.

Well said.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 32):
Guten Tag Planehunter - nice report of your flights earlier this year.

Hi Palmjet, good to hear you liked it!

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 32):
Hope you had a good Christmas! P/jet

Yes, I hope you did, too.

Quoting bwaflyer (Reply 33):
The interior is actually red white and blue to match the livery. The aircraft are currently receiving new interiors with chocolate brown seats and grey / brown carpets.

Nice picture, thanks.

Quoting bwaflyer (Reply 33):
ummmmm - you watched the safety video on TV screens (unless they weren't working)! If you mean PTVs, then the longest flights these aircraft normally do are less than 2 hours (90% are less than 1 hour) so not really necessary. The midhaul fleet that operate longer flights have PTVs.

OK, that was a misunderstanding. I meant that it would be nice if the screens were used during the flight.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 35):
Great report and pictures, thanks for sharing this installment, looked fun, though the delay in CDG was a tad of a worry!

Thanks a lot for your comments, Mark!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 35):
- It's amazing bmi have taken so long to re-paint this plane, I would have thought there was some rule in the Star rule book about displaying the correct information, inc airline logos!

Yes, very odd that the livery still exists.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 37):
PH, many congratulations on reaching your 100th airline. Nice achievement man.

Very nice report for this relaxing Friday afternoon.

Hi Lee, thanks so much for your feedback! Good to hear you enjoyed reading.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 37):
I hate the feeling thinking about missing a connection while you can only sit and wait for the outcome. Very tense times indeed and can easily take something away from the enjoyment.

  


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: brightcedars
Posted 2011-01-01 09:28:54 and read 25769 times.

Very nice trip report! It was real nice to be in the special atmosphere of this flight which was clearly packed with enthusiasts of all kinds

I'll take the occasion to wish a Happy New Year to all, filled with exceptional flights, exotic carriers and unconventional routings!

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: MSS658
Posted 2011-01-03 12:43:16 and read 25152 times.

Nice report and addition to your A380 flying list. I'm sorry to read about the delay on the CDG-LHR sector. I'm glad you made your connection to VIE anyway.


I have yet to be on the F100, but have had a few F70 flights in the past and always enjoyed them.

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: ronerone
Posted 2011-01-05 20:06:58 and read 24841 times.

Excellent TR PlaneHunter, as always!

This is the first TR i read in 2011, and i hope we continue to read more new TR's from PH   ... Happy New Year!

I totally felt your anxiety when you were going through that delay with Air France. I would have done the exact same thing as you; stow away my camera! Just knowing the possibilities of subsequent hassles, and unecessary extra money to be paid just kills the mood!

Other than that, everything turned out to be a success on this trip! ..

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Of course I took a picture of the famous "salon":

I still do not understand this. Is there a refreshment station, or at least a galley next to this salon where people can enjoy some drinks as they stretch out there?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...and the 34-inch seat pitch must be appreciated, too:

Great pitch! I think better than EK.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After a few sentences he introduced himself as A.net user brightcedars and he was surprised when I introduced myself as PlaneHunter. Later we talked to the guy in seat 92L and found out that he was user babybus - what a coincidence to come together in that section without any planning!

What a great coincidence!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I followed the connection signs and was relieved when I found out that there was an airside bus transfer to Terminal 1.

It definitely helps when you dont have any checked baggage.

In 2009, I had to go landside and collect my baggage, before transfering to T3, where i missed my Royal Brunei flight and had to fork out a full Y fare on BA back to DXB!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I'm not sure what to think of the green color, but the old-style seats were quite comfortable:

Same thought i'm having!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The mixed salad along with the dressing tasted very good - and the wholemeal bread wasn't bad either. Well done, Austrian:

Very very nice!


Thanks a lot for sharing! Looking forward to more!

Cheers,
Roni

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-01-17 06:06:54 and read 23822 times.

Quoting brightcedars (Reply 39):
Very nice trip report! It was real nice to be in the special atmosphere of this flight which was clearly packed with enthusiasts of all kinds

Hi brightcedars, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 40):
Nice report and addition to your A380 flying list.

Thanks for your comments, MSS658!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 41):
Excellent TR PlaneHunter, as always!

This is the first TR i read in 2011, and i hope we continue to read more new TR's from PH ... Happy New Year!

Hi Roni, many thanks for your kind words. You can be sure there will be plenty of new reports, the question is when...  

Quoting ronerone (Reply 41):
Just knowing the possibilities of subsequent hassles, and unecessary extra money to be paid just kills the mood!

Well said.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 41):
I still do not understand this. Is there a refreshment station, or at least a galley next to this salon where people can enjoy some drinks as they stretch out there?

No, I didn't notice anything like that. It seems AF simply had no idea how to use that space reasonably.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 41):
In 2009, I had to go landside and collect my baggage, before transfering to T3, where i missed my Royal Brunei flight and had to fork out a full Y fare on BA back to DXB!

That's really bad!


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: lhr380
Posted 2011-01-24 13:18:04 and read 22895 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
G-MIDX (MSN 1177), STAR ALLIANCE livery

Fab report as ever Planehunter.

This plane is the bane of my life. Hated the livery as it was so old, yet always saw the dang thing when I was flying out. Even after its gone it is still haunting me lol

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-01-26 11:54:13 and read 22462 times.

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 43):
Fab report as ever Planehunter.

Many thanks!

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 43):
This plane is the bane of my life. Hated the livery as it was so old, yet always saw the dang thing when I was flying out. Even after its gone it is still haunting me lol

Have you ever flown on it? Come on, it's not that bad!


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: lhr380
Posted 2011-01-26 13:31:25 and read 22380 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 44):
Have you ever flown on it? Come on, it's not that bad!

Na, it was the livery that annoyed me lol. Having Ansett on it still after all that time! Even having Varig and MX (Who was now in another alliance as well)

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-01-30 10:10:20 and read 21807 times.

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 45):
Na, it was the livery that annoyed me lol. Having Ansett on it still after all that time! Even having Varig and MX (Who was now in another alliance as well)

G-MIDX is what I'd call a real retro jet!  


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: abrelosojos
Posted 2011-02-13 09:49:58 and read 20934 times.

Thanks PH for yet another stellar report. Seems like AF handled the delay well. I have always thought of service onboard bmi to have been stellar and so was not too surprised. Not a fan of those Tryolean seats though!

Again, thank you for sharing.

Saludos,
A.

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-02-16 04:22:12 and read 20469 times.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 47):
Thanks PH for yet another stellar report. Seems like AF handled the delay well.

Hi Alex, thanks for your feedback, good to hear from you. Yes, AF indeed handled the delay well.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 47):
I have always thought of service onboard bmi to have been stellar and so was not too surprised.

My first BD experience had not been good, so this flight was a nice surprise.


PH

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: AustrianZRH
Posted 2011-02-18 02:05:40 and read 20119 times.

Excellent report!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I hope that the airport's Hall B will be refurbished soon.
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
also VIE is among the worst 'large' airports in Europe, not a pleasant place to stay.

I fully agree with you, it's more than time that the new terminal is completed. Unfortunately there was a corruption scandal and severe cost overruns which have hit that project. New completion date is H1 2012 instead of H1 2008 :P.

Topic: RE: Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-02-24 10:19:44 and read 19504 times.

Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 49):
Excellent report!

Many thanks!

Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 49):
I fully agree with you, it's more than time that the new terminal is completed. Unfortunately there was a corruption scandal and severe cost overruns which have hit that project. New completion date is H1 2012 instead of H1 2008 :P.

Let's hope there won't be any more problems.


PH


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