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Topic: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-10 02:06:58 and read 28119 times.




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Background about the Round-the-World Trip
A round-the-world trip had been on my wish list for many years and last summer I finally decided to go. Originally, my plan for October 2010 was to visit a good friend in Brisbane again after a break of four years. While searching for flight options, I realized that a visit to Brisbane would be a great opportunity to create a round-the-world trip. RTW packages by the large alliances didn't attract me due to numerous restrictions and the limited choice of airlines. I found it much more interesting to combine all kinds of airlines without someone restricting anything.

As usual, my focus was on new carriers and new types - and my intensive searches turned out to be successful. First of all, I booked the long-haul flights, followed by a few connecting flights. Finally, I added some more side trip flights. Final routing: Munich-Bangkok-Brisbane-Melbourne-Albury-Sydney-Auckland-Christchurch-Dunedin-Wellington-Auckland-San Francisco-Munich. The itinerary included 12 flights, 7 new airlines, 5 new airports and 3 new types. I would leave on 2 October and return 11 days later, after flying 26345 miles (42398 kilometers).

Parts I, II, III and IV can be found here:
Thai Fails To Impress: MUC-BKK-BNE On 744 & 777
Detours To Sydney: Wildlife, Tiger, REX & QFLink
Trans-Tasman Treat: Aerolineas Argentinas A340-200
Bad Weather & Other Bad Luck: Touring New Zealand

Planning Details - Part V
Shortly after had I started working on my RTW itinerary, I found a very attractive one-way fare between Auckland and Munich, offered by Air New Zealand. The price was only half of the lowest available round-trip fares which was quite remarkable. There was a choice of three different options: Auckland-Hong Kong-Munich, Auckland-Los Angeles-Munich and Auckland-San Francisco-Munich. All options involved stopovers of about nine hours and more which would give me the opportunity to relax in a day room. In either case, the second sector showed a Lufthansa Airbus A340-600 - a type which was still missing in my log. I quickly ruled out AKL-LAX-MUC, because I had already flown on Air New Zealand's Boeing 747-400. The other two options included an Air New Zealand Boeing 777-200ER - definitely more interesting! Finally, I decided to make an eastbound RTW trip and booked the AKL-SFO-MUC connection on NZ’s nice and functional website. Some weeks later, I also booked a cheap room at the Red Roof Inn in Burlingame where I would spend a few hours between the two long-haul flights.
I was really looking forward to my first A340-600 flight, my second long-haul flight on quality carrier Air New Zealand and - not to forget - my first Pacific crossing.




Auckland Spotting & Sightseeing
After another relaxing night and an excellent breakfast at the Jet Park Airport Hotel....



...I checked out and met Nicholas alias trip reporter NZ107 for the first time. We went to a popular spot where you can take good pictures of aircraft on final approach and taxiing to the runway. I got numerous new registrations, including V8-BLC...



...and A6-EDC:





Here are two great pictures taken by Nicholas during our meeting:


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Around noon, Nicholas took me to some nice spots where I could enjoy fantastic views of Auckland and the surrounding area. First of all, we went to One Tree Hill:











Then we went to Mount Eden, the highest natural point in the whole of Auckland. You can find a majestic bowl-like volcano crater there:







Here you can see One Tree Hill in the distance:


After having lunch in a nice little bistro, we went back to the airport and continued spotting for a while under the approach path. I got a total 21 new registrations on that day which wasn't bad. About 2.5 hours prior to departure, it was time to leave for the airport.




Tuesday, 12 October 2010
Auckland (AKL) - San Francisco (SFO)
Air New Zealand NZ008
Scheduled times: 19:30-11:45
Actual times: 19:29-11:26
Flight duration: 11:38 (hrs)
Distance: 6516 miles
Economy Class, seat 65A

Boeing 777-219ER
ZK-OKH (s/n 605)
Built in 12/2006 and delivered in 01/2007


1st flight on ZK-OKH
11th 777-200ER flight
29th 777 flight



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There were plenty of staffed counters in the Air New Zealand check-in area and I just had to wait a few minutes until a very friendly male agent waved to me. Only a few minutes later, he printed the boarding pass for the SFO flight with my pre-reserved seat number (65A, last row). Then I asked the agent whether he could already issue the second boarding pass, too. He wasn't able to get access to the Lufthansa seat map at first, but then he asked a colleague and looked something up in a manual. He remained in good mood all the time and seemed to be very motivated to sort this out. Finally, his machine printed the boarding pass (seat 55A) and he cheerfully said "Yessssss!" Before leaving, I asked him about the passenger load on the SFO flight. "It's half empty!", he said and wished me a pleasant journey. That's what I call a good start!  thumbsup 

It wasn't necessary yet to pass security, so Nicholas and I went to the indoor observation deck for some more spotting. It's a nice and clean facility with numerous seats where you can easily spend a few hours. It was quite busy at the international terminal:


Finally, it was time to go airside and I said goodbye to Nicholas who had been an excellent guide. Thanks again for a great day in Auckland!  thumbsup 

After passing security, I noticed that this 777 was parked at gate 8 - which was my gate:


The plane turned out to be ZK-OKH, the newest of eight 777-200ERs in the fleet.

In order to reach the gates for the USA flights, I had to pass another security checkpoint. Finally, I could take a seat in the gate area. ZK-OKH was built in December 2006 and delivered in January 2007:



After boarding had commenced, I remained seated for a while so that I could log some more registrations. I entered the cabin among the last few passengers and friendly flight attendants welcomed me on board. Only few people were seated in the rear section - and I was happy that the aisle seat next to me remained empty!  thumbsup 

The seats were the same as on my Air New Zealand 747-400 flight in 2008 - very comfortable:





Legroom (most likely 32 inches) was not as generous as on the 747-400 (34 inches), but still sufficient for a long flight:



Inflight magazine:



The IFE guide...



...even contained a fleet information page:



Pretty good headphones were available, but neither amenity kits nor hot towels:



After the doors had been closed, the captain informed us about the route and announced a flying time of 11 hours and 45 minutes. I was glad about being seated on this comfortable 777 for the next 12 hours - and not on the familiar neighbor to the left:



We left the gate slightly ahead of schedule in beautiful evening light:



Two NZ heavies resting in a hangar:



The Rolls-Royce Trents soon started roaring and the 777 lifted off after a powerful takeoff run:



Right turn, let's go east!



While the plane was climbing to cruising altitude, I had a look at the AVOD entertainment system. It's easy to navigate and offers a wide range of options, including more than 70 movies in numerous languages, more than 70 TV features, 16 music channels, more than 200 music CDs (playlist builder), 20 video games, a 3D airshow channel, destination information and travel guides. Main menu:



Movies main page:



You don't find menu cards on Air New Zealand which prefers to show the meal options on the IFE screen. About 45 minutes after takeoff, exactly that happened. Unfortunately, the options soon disappeared again, so I couldn't take a better picture:



I continued watching the airshow channel until the food arrived:



Pretty interesting features:





Back in 2008, I had been impressed by NZ's lamb, so this was my choice again:


The meal was nicely presented and tasted quite good in general, but there were too many fatty pieces in the main course. The ice cream dessert (no Häagen-Dazs like in 2008) tasted fine, but it had already partly melted when I was ready to eat it.

Shortly after dinner, we entered a period of turbulence which would last between five and six hours. The intensity kept changing, but became quite strong from time to time. Anyway, this couldn't scare me and I just leaned back and enjoyed watching the airshow. Flying over the Pacific was really something special:







During a period of light turbulence, I went to the galley to get a drink. A friendly female flight attendant in the 40s quickly handed it out to me and also spontaneously gave me two cracker packs. Very nice service!
Later, I also noticed that the flight attendants frequently kept passing through the cabin with water. And I liked the fact that they had always put lemons in their water carafes.

Finally, I got quite tired and even fell asleep. I woke up several times and noticed how the plane was being shaken by turbulence, but always fell asleep again. When I finally felt fit again, we were smoothly cruising in daylight somewhere between Hawaii and the US West Coast:





The flight attendants were preparing to serve breakfast and I started playing "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire":



Scrambled eggs or pancakes? I opted for the former:


The breakfast was delicious, everything was really tasty. And the presentation was nice, too. Well done, Air New Zealand!  thumbsup 

Thick layer of clouds over the Pacific:



After breakfast it was time for the indispensable cabin shot:



Due to the great IFE system, the remaining flying time passed quickly. About 20 minutes before landing, flight attendants offered candy - and on my side a little girl was strolling through the aisle with a candy basket. "So you are helping out today?", I asked her and she nodded with a smile. Very nice gesture by the cabin crew - I guess it made the girl really happy.

Land in sight!





Beautiful weather in the Bay Area - what more can you ask for?







Left turn to final approach:





United heavy waiting for clearance:



Our Pacific crossing came to an end after 11 hours and 38 minutes. After a short taxi...



...we arrived at the gate almost 20 minutes ahead of schedule. Another United heavy was parked next to us - no doubt, SFO is United territory:


Before leaving the aircraft, I thanked the friendly flight attendant in the 40s for the good service and told her that I had been quite satisfied with the seating comfort. Of course she was happy to hear that.



Transfer at San Francisco
It wasn't very busy in the terminal around noon, so I didn't have to wait very long at immigration. After grabbing my luggage, I immediately walked to the hotel shuttle pick-up zone and 20 minutes later I checked in at the Red Roof Inn in Burlingame. Friendly staff, big and clean room, numerous amenities - I was very satisfied with that cheap motel. Room view:


After resting for a few hours, I felt totally fit for the last sector of my journey. About two hours prior to departure, I took the shuttle back to the airport.




Tuesday, 12 October 2010
San Francisco (SFO) - Munich (MUC)
Lufthansa LH459
Scheduled times: 21:00-17:15
Actual times: 20:51-17:07
Flight duration: 10:52 (hrs)
Distance: 5879 miles
Economy Class, seat 55A

Airbus A340-642
D-AIHA (MSN 482), named "Nürnberg"
Delivered in 12/2003


1st flight on D-AIHA
1st A340-600 flight
9th A340 flight



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Even though the agent at Auckland had already checked me in, I went to a Lufthansa counter to make sure that everything was alright. A rather unfriendly male agent confirmed my seat 55A and printed a new boarding pass. Then I passed security and walked down all the way to gate G99. It was dark outside and I couldn't see much of the aircraft except for a part of the tail. I took my binoculars out to identify the second of the two letters there - it seemed to be an "A", but I wasn't sure. Anyway, I just had to wait some more time.
I took a seat in an area above the actual gate and soon noticed that the Lufthansa cabin crew had also gathered about ten meters away for the pre-flight briefing. The male purser appeared to be quite rigorous while he was speaking, he somehow reminded me of a strict teacher.

More than half an hour later, friendly flight attendants welcomed me on board. When I saw the name "Nürnberg" on a badge next to the galley, it was clear that the second letter on the tail had indeed been an "A": The plane was D-AIHA, the oldest A340-600 in the fleet. However, it was once delivered to Lufthansa after its sister ships D-AIHB, D-AIHC and D-AIHD. I usually prefer getting the oldest or newest frame, so this was a perfect start of my first trip on the A340-600.

When I arrived at my row, I noticed that a laptop had already been placed in the seat pocket of the aisle seat...so this crushed my hope for another flight without a neighbor. Then I went to the single rear lavatory which turned out to be huge - that one is perfect for passengers with mobility problems who have trouble to reach the A346's six underfloor lavatories. Before returning to the seat, I asked a friendly (and very young) male flight attendant about the today's load. "There are numerous open seats", he replied and I started hoping that the passenger next to me would move.

After I had returned to my seat again, a guy sat down next to me and asked whether this was my laptop in his seat pocket...this was rather odd, I thought. Some moments later, another guy showed up, took the laptop and disappeared again. Then the guy next to me checked his boarding pass, jumped up again, took all his belongings and also walked away. Now the seat next to me was empty again - and it remained so even after boarding had been completed. This made my day!  thumbsup 

The seat itself felt quite hard and was narrower than the counterpart on Air New Zealand (17 vs 17.8 inches), definitely less comfortable:



Lufthansa has introduced rather big PTV screens, but the IFE boxes are quite big, too. They are installed under A, D (picture) and K seats:



A 31-inch pitch is usually acceptable - however, in Lufthansa's case, the seat design is a bit flawed: the seat back extends too far down which makes it more difficult than usual to stretch out. Lufthansa should provide shin pads...  Wink



Welcome screen:



Lufthansa's excellent inflight magazine also contains an IFE guide:



The headphones looked cheaper than the ones on Air New Zealand - but they did their job. I guess the lower cabin noise on the A346 helped a bit.


Neither amenity kits nor menu cards were available, but at least hot towels were distributed. Before we left the gate, there had been two nice welcome announcements, one by the purser and another one by one of the pilots. Among other things, the purser informed that a snack and an aperitif would be available before dinner. I felt really welcome on board, leaned back and looked forward to my first A340-600 flight and my first Lufthansa long-haul flight after more than 15 years (Los Angeles-Frankfurt on a 747-400 in 1995 had been my last one).

The "Nürnberg" was pushed back almost ten minutes ahead of schedule, but it took almost 20 more minutes until the plane smoothly and relatively quietly lifted off into the clear night sky. The countless lights of San Francisco looked fantastic.

Crackers and drinks were served about half an hour after takeoff. I ordered a Campari Orange and the friendly male flight attendant who I had talked to earlier also offered a cold drink. So I additionally ordered sparkling water:



Now it was time to test Lufthansa's AVOD IFE system. There's no handset for the IFE system, but the touchscreen control worked smoothly and faultless in my case:




You can choose between 18 movies in numerous languages, 35 TV and music programs, 30 radio channels, 100 CDs and audio books and a classic airshow channel. Games are only available on the A380. LH's "mediaworld" certainly doesn't belong to the most advanced systems in the business, but it can keep you entertained for a long time.

Dinner was served about one hour after the snack service. The young male flight attendant showed up again and didn't just quickly ask "chicken or pasta", but kindly said: "We have chicken or pasta for dinner today, what would you like to eat?" I decided to try the chicken and also ordered white wine:


The main course didn't look very appealing, but the meat, the sauce and the pumpkin mashed potatoes tasted quite good. I also enjoyed the salad, the tiramisu cake and the wine.

After dinner, I walked forward and had a look at the underfloor lavatory section. Here's the entrance:



Let's go down...



There are three lavatories on each side:



You can also find a small snack bar there - and on the opposite side there's also a crew rest entry door:


Up to three people were hanging around in that area at the same time. I still didn't feel cramped, though.

Nicely illuminated stairway:


Later in the flight, a young female flight attendant was resting in the galley near the entrance to the underfloor section and I asked her whether that facility had proven useful. She looked thoughtful at first and then she said that passengers usually like it. However, she also explained that it can become quite crowded around the entrance during service times. I confirmed the positive impressions of the underfloor lavatories, but told her that seating comfort and legroom in particular weren't as good as on Air New Zealand. She didn't look surprised about hearing that and said: "I don't think that will change anytime soon."

After watching "Robin Hood" with Russell Crowe, it was time for a cabin shot. Some mood lighting would be welcome:


What I noticed after a while was the lack of water runs at night. I didn't mind about going to the galley to pick up a drink, but that would have been more difficult with an occupied aisle seat.

I didn't feel tired at all and enjoyed watching the airshow. We took a quite northerly routing:







Sunrise over Greenland's ice surface - simply beautiful:







Breakfast was served about 75 minutes before arrival. I decided to try the omelette:


What to say? I can only praise Lufthansa for that breakfast - everything tasted good, including the coffee. And the quantity was just right, too.

Another cabin picture, this time in daylight:



After flying more than 42000 kilometers, my round-the-world trip slowly came to an end. The "Nürnberg" on approach to München:





Only a few more moments to go:



D-AIHA gently touched down on runway 08R after 10 hours and 52 minutes and taxied to the southernmost gate of Terminal 2, just next to an Aegean A320:



During disembarking, I took some more cabin pictures:





When I arrived at the exit, I took the chance to take a picture of the plane's name badge. Despite trying several times, I couldn't get a really crisp one:


"Are you from Nuremberg?", a female flight attendant kindly asked me while I was taking pictures of the badge. I just told her that I had been glad about getting on the "Nürnberg" after also flying on the (new) "München" on a sightseeing flight over the Alps in summer. "Oh, you are ahead of us!", she replied.
Totally Thrilling: Scenic Flight On Lufthansa A380 (by PlaneHunter Aug 5 2010 in Trip Reports)

The long forward fuselage section of the A340-600:



One more picture from the terminal - my first ride on the longest plane in commercial service was a really enjoyable one:


About 20 minutes after leaving the plane, I grabbed my luggage, went to my car and drove home after a fantastic and memorable trip.



Conclusion
Crossing the Pacific on Air New Zealand was a pleasure due to comfortable seating, decent food, great IFE and good and personal service. However, the catering had been a bit better on the HKG-LHR flight in 2008. Flying on the carrier's 777-200ERs may be less comfortable once the planes get 3-4-3 seating like the new 777-300ERs. Seat width will shrink from 17.8 inches to 17.1 inches, pitch will partly increase and partly decrease (31-33 inches to 32 inches). Anyway, I wouldn't hesitate to fly on that great carrier again.

The Lufthansa flight was good, but not as enjoyable as the ride on Air New Zealand. While service and catering were more or less on par, seating comfort on Lufthansa left a bit to be desired. Pitch should be increased to 32 inches and the carrier should also think about using an improved seat back design. LH's IFE system cannot match NZ's system, but that's not a major issue. Of course I will fly Lufthansa again - actually I have just recently booked a trip which includes another LH long-haul flight.

My first round-the-world trip definitely belongs to the most exciting, most enjoyable and most successful trips I have ever made. Not everything went as it should have, but that's part of the hobby. I flew on 7 new airlines and 3 new types, visited 4 new airports and logged a total of 187 new registrations. That's not easy to top, but I will try my best.


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter



P.S.: Just in case you missed them - my previous trip reports:
Bad Weather & Other Bad Luck: Touring New Zealand
Trans-Tasman Treat: Aerolineas Argentinas A340-200
Detours To Sydney: Wildlife, Tiger, REX & QFLink
Thai Fails To Impress: MUC-BKK-BNE On 744 & 777
Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Fifth Freedom Tidbit: Kuwait Airways A300-600
Ship Vs. Plane: Porto Santo Line & Sata Air Açores
Awesome Approach, Splendid Scenery: LIS, FNC & TAP
Guernsey, Ash Cloud Alarm & Mostly Empty SQ 77Ws
Totally Thrilling: Scenic Flight On Lufthansa A380
Cirrus D38, Adria CRJ & Captain Niki Lauda On Duty
Monarch Hot Meal, E195 & More: PMI-ALC-MAN-MUC
Premium Meal & Palma Spotting: MUC-PMI, DE 757-300
The Dead Slow Transfer: PEK-MUC On Air China A332
Cancellation Brings Joy: HKG-PEK on Dragonair A330
A380 Cacophony, 777 Star Livery: DXB-SIN-HKG on SQ
The Next 5* Carrier? MUC-MCT-DXB, Oman Air A330
Turkey For 1.5 Hrs: Daytrip To AYT On Sky Airlines
CO Scores Again: ATL-IAH-EWR-FRA On ERJ, 752 & 764
Riding The Ultra Long-Haul Twin: Delta 777-200LR
Pacific Coast Jaunt: 3 Carriers, E120, E140 & Fog
The Ultimate 737: LHR-IAH-PDX On CO 777 & 739ER
Bye Bye, Hell! TRD-OSL-TXL-NUE - DY/AB/HE DH4
My Trip To Hell: NUE-CPH-OSL-TRD On Cimber & SAS
SFO-YUL-FRA: Map- & Sleepless On Air Canada's 77W
Sin City Gloss & Virgin America's Chic First Class
Seat Dilemma & Canyon Glamour: FRA To LAX, AC 763
On Par With Air France? DTW-AMS-MUC, KLM A330
Goodbye, Red Tails! DC-9-40/50 & Chicago Tour
Champagne & World Of Coke: Air France A340 To ATL
"Mission A380": Disappointing Legs On BA/BD/EI
Delights Of Doha, 773 & 77W: DOH-DXB-LHR On EK
A380 Really a Step Forward? LHR-DXB-DOH On EK
Quality & Style: HKG-LHR On Air New Zealand 744
Taiwan Trio: TransAsia, UNI Air And The Taipei 101
"The Wings Of Taiwan": EVA Air A332, 744 Combi
SHA-SZX, Shanghai 757: Delayed By The Military
PEK-SHA, China Eastern A330 & Shanghai At Night
Striking Newcomer: Berlin-Beijing On Hainan A330
Short & Splendid: MXP-MUC On Air Dolomiti's 146
3 Hours On Blue1: HEL-MXP On The MD-90
BCN-MAD-ZRH-MUC: UX Shuttle Meets Swiss Quality
MUC-MAD-BCN: Star MD-87 & The Pain Of Vueling
Low Fares, Lovely Island: AK & Best Of Langkawi
4 Stars Or 5 Stars? FRA-KUL-FRA, Malaysia 777s
First And Last Time? JFK-FCO-MUC, Alitalia 777
JFK For 1 Day: Transatlantic Hop On CSA's A310
Sardinian Sun, Shiny New 73Gs & Cramped Mad Dog
Top And Flop: KIX-HEL-MUC, Finnair A320 & MD-11
The 524-Seat Twin-jet: HND-ITM On ANA 777-300
Kobe For 1 Hour: 767-Quickie On ANA & Skymark
Rocketing To Tokyo: FUK-HND On JAL (ex-JAS) 777
Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
MUC To Nagoya: Finnair E170 & (Old) "New" A340
Mad Dog, A320 Tech Delay & Best Of Lanzarote
Canaries Prop-Hopping: Islas Airways & Naysa
Canaries And Confusion: LH CRJ900 & Spanair A321
Hubbing For 162 Miles: HOQ-FRA-STR Ret On IQ/EW/LH
BOS-JFK-AMS-MUC: SSSS-Check And KLM 777
ATL-PIT-JFK-BOS: FL B717, JetBlue E190 And Delays
MUC-AMS-MEM-ATL On NWA A332 And 40-year-old DC-9
FRA-BKK-FRA Via CMB: SriLankan A332 & A343
BNE-SIN-DXB-MUC On Emirates B772ER & B773
2 Hours In Paradise: Hamilton Island (JQ/DJ)
BNE-SYD-BNE: Domestic Run On QF’s Oldest B747-400
Testing Qantas: SYD-MEL-SYD-BNE (B738, B763, A332)
Going Down Under: MUC-DXB-SYD On EK A332 & A345
9/11 Review: Failed Trip To LAX - Fuel Dump Pics
Surprised By NIKI's Newest A320 & Screw-up By AB
Leisure Vs. Full Service: Condor & SN Brussels
"betterFly" On LH: Business Class For 99 Euro
Weekend Transatlantic Trip (2): US A321 & B762
Transatlantic For A Weekend (1): MUC-DCA On US


[Edited 2011-04-10 03:00:29]

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: SloAir
Posted 2011-04-10 03:00:15 and read 27901 times.

Hi PlaneHunter,

I have been looking forward to this report. A346 is my favourite long-haul aircraft. My first wide body and long haul flight was with a Lufthansa A340-600 from MUC to JFK so this report brought back great memories.

Air New Zeland looks good to, I really want to try them once and do a RTW trip. I hope I will be able to do that someday in the future 

Thank you for an interesting and detailed report,

Blaž

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-10 03:07:20 and read 27867 times.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 1):
Hi PlaneHunter,

I have been looking forward to this report.
Quoting SloAir (Reply 1):
Thank you for an interesting and detailed report,

Hi Blaž, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 1):
A346 is my favourite long-haul aircraft. My first wide body and long haul flight was with a Lufthansa A340-600 from MUC to JFK so this report brought back great memories.

That's nice to hear. The A346 certainly belongs to my favorites.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 1):
Air New Zeland looks good to, I really want to try them once and do a RTW trip. I hope I will be able to do that someday in the future

You should do so, you'd enjoy it a lot.


PH

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: mihairosioru
Posted 2011-04-10 03:10:33 and read 27852 times.

Very nice report to conclude your round the world trip! It has been a pleasure to read. I wonder whether all Pacific crossings are so bumpy...

[Edited 2011-04-10 03:28:45]

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-10 03:16:30 and read 27825 times.

Quoting mihairosioru (Reply 3):
Very nice report to conclude your round the world trip! It has been a pleasure to read.

Many thanks, very nice to hear!

Quoting mihairosioru (Reply 3):
I wonder whether all Pacific crossings are so bumby...

No, I don't think so. Maybe some frequent transpacific travellers can tell us more.


PH

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: RJtraveller
Posted 2011-04-10 03:18:34 and read 27822 times.

Hi PlaneHunter !

Nice and interesting trip report,
The Air New Zealand sector seems to offer better food and service than LH, had flown the NZ B744 last year from HKG to AKL in eco class and the seat was very comfortable the same type like your flight and offers very spacious leg room. Really regret flying back to HKG with CX.

Interesting flight in LH A346 , the seats seems a lot more newer and better than the A343, and the PTV is also better and bigger i suppose.

Anyway Nice TR thanks for sharing really enjoy reading it looking forward for you next one's !

cheers,
reggie

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: RvXKaz
Posted 2011-04-10 03:25:22 and read 27794 times.

Hello Planehunter,

I have been following you on your round-the-world trip since you hopped on the TG flight from MUC and since I just got my a.net account, let me congratulate you on completing such an epic journey. It has been great reading your reports comprising everything from regional hops on domestic carriers to inter-continental longhauls spanning 4 continents!

I am happy to hear that after a disappointing Thai experience, the other *Alliance members didn't disappoint at all. The food on NZ looks tasty, as was the breakfast on LH. The mystery meat dinner dish indeed looks strange but glad to hear that it tasted good.   The window views were spectacular on both flights and I really enjoyed your pictures of the interior as well, especially of LH.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I flew on 7 new airlines and 3 new types, visited 4 new airports and logged a total of 187 new registrations.

This is indeed a remarkable achievement to accomplish on a single vacation. Congratulations!

Thanks for the delightful readings the past few weeks!

Warm regards,
Gavin

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-10 03:40:27 and read 27734 times.

Quoting RJtraveller (Reply 5):

Nice and interesting trip report,
Quoting RJtraveller (Reply 5):
Anyway Nice TR thanks for sharing really enjoy reading it looking forward for you next one's !

Hi reggie, thanks a lot for your comments! Many more reports to follow...

Quoting RJtraveller (Reply 5):
Interesting flight in LH A346 , the seats seems a lot more newer and better than the A343, and the PTV is also better and bigger i suppose.

The seats on the A343s are quite similar. According to Seatguru, they are even wider (17.5 inches) and pitch is more generous (32 inches).

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 6):
Hello Planehunter,

I have been following you on your round-the-world trip since you hopped on the TG flight from MUC and since I just got my a.net account, let me congratulate you on completing such an epic journey. It has been great reading your reports comprising everything from regional hops on domestic carriers to inter-continental longhauls spanning 4 continents!
Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 6):
Thanks for the delightful readings the past few weeks!

Hi Gavin, thank you very much for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the series.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 6):
I am happy to hear that after a disappointing Thai experience, the other *Alliance members didn't disappoint at all.

LH even exceeded my expectations.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 6):
The window views were spectacular on both flights and I really enjoyed your pictures of the interior as well, especially of LH.

That's nice to hear. I always try to get a seat on the left side on transatlantic flights so that I can enjoy the sunrise.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 6):
This is indeed a remarkable achievement to accomplish on a single vacation. Congratulations!

Thanks! Getting seven new airlines again during a single trip will be very difficult to achieve...


PH

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2011-04-10 03:49:06 and read 27705 times.

Hi!

Its good to see a LH A346 report - I'm booked on one FRA-BOG-FRA in October. Did you find that the IFE box under the window seat was very annoying? Was there enough room for your feet, or would you advise getting as aisle seat?

it must have been interesting spending one night flying over tropical South Pacific islands, and the next night flying over frozen Greenland!

Great report!

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: ojas
Posted 2011-04-10 03:57:44 and read 27679 times.

Excellent TR, Planehunter ... loved the pictures.

Thanks for sharing.

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: CXB77L
Posted 2011-04-10 03:58:29 and read 27676 times.

Hi PlaneHunter, thank you for another wonderful trip report! I enjoyed reading about your RTW trip.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Before leaving, I asked him about the passenger load on the SFO flight. "It's half empty!", he said and wished me a pleasant journey. That's what I call a good start!

Exactly. That's news to my ears  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After the doors had been closed, the captain informed us about the route and announced a flying time of 11 hours and 45 minutes. I was glad about being seated on this comfortable 777 for the next 12 hours

I would be too. Did the captain mention anything about the expected turbulence en route? At least the turbulence on your flight started after dinner, not during  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
You don't find menu cards on Air New Zealand which prefers to show the meal options on the IFE screen. About 45 minutes after takeoff, exactly that happened.

There wasn't a menu display on my IFE screen when I flew with them ... but rather it was announced by the purser (or whatever the head F/A position on NZ is called)

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The flight attendants were preparing to serve breakfast and I started playing "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire":

You locked in the wrong answer, by the way! The correct answer is C. I also wanted to play but couldn't get it to work.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The breakfast was delicious, everything was really tasty. And the presentation was nice, too. Well done, Air New Zealand!

Ah, exactly the same meal as I had, and sounds like it tasted just as nice too! Indeed, top marks to NZ there.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
What to say? I can only praise Lufthansa for that breakfast - everything tasted good, including the coffee. And the quantity was just right, too.

If you had to choose between the breakfast you had on NZ and this one, which would you choose?

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: globetraveller
Posted 2011-04-10 04:10:51 and read 27633 times.

Hey PlaneHunter,

This is an excellent and fitting end to your round-the-world experience. I have been following the whole series and enjoyed reading every report.

Good to know you also had a chance to meet up with Nicholas and that he took great care of you too! Your pictures of Auckland definitely make me want to go back soon!

Thanks for posting all the TRs.

Globetraveller

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-10 04:19:25 and read 27596 times.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Hi!

Its good to see a LH A346 report
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Great report!

Thanks, Gabriel!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
I'm booked on one FRA-BOG-FRA in October. Did you find that the IFE box under the window seat was very annoying? Was there enough room for your feet, or would you advise getting as aisle seat?

That sounds like an interesting trip. Well, the box is quite big and does reduce legroom, but I didn't find it annoying like on certain other carriers. However, the seat next to me remained empty, so this may have helped a bit. Be aware that the boxes are also installed under the D (aisle) seats. I guess you are on the safe side if you take a C or H aisle seat. I recommend to have a look at Seatguru.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
it must have been interesting spending one night flying over tropical South Pacific islands, and the next night flying over frozen Greenland!

Yeah, quite a difference!

Quoting ojas (Reply 9):
Excellent TR, Planehunter ... loved the pictures.

Many thanks, Ojas!

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 10):
Hi PlaneHunter, thank you for another wonderful trip report! I enjoyed reading about your RTW trip.

Hi Sam, thank you for your nice comments!

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 10):
Did the captain mention anything about the expected turbulence en route?

I cannot remember hearing such an announcement. Probably I overheard it while listening to music.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 10):
There wasn't a menu display on my IFE screen when I flew with them ...

What type did you fly on? There wasn't a display either on my HKG-LHR flight.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 10):
You locked in the wrong answer, by the way! The correct answer is C.

Yes, I know. Actually I didn't pay attention to the question because I was trying to take a decent picture...

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 10):
If you had to choose between the breakfast you had on NZ and this one, which would you choose?

Very hard question. Both were really tasty.

Quoting globetraveller (Reply 11):
Hey PlaneHunter,

This is an excellent and fitting end to your round-the-world experience. I have been following the whole series and enjoyed reading every report.

Hi Globetraveller, thanks a lot for your comments! I'm glad you enjoyed reading.

Quoting globetraveller (Reply 11):

Good to know you also had a chance to meet up with Nicholas and that he took great care of you too!

Yes, it was a pleasure to meet him.

Quoting globetraveller (Reply 11):
Your pictures of Auckland definitely make me want to go back soon!

I'd like to go there again, too - the sooner the better. I didn't see much of the city and the country.


PH

[Edited 2011-04-10 04:24:07]

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: luxair747SP
Posted 2011-04-10 04:43:00 and read 27497 times.

Hi PH,
as usual very interesting TR with many good pictures.
I especially liked the ones from One Tree Hill, it is a nice spot to relax.
The NZ flight looked really enjoyable and the service quite good.
Normally nobody can beat the NZ lamb.
The LH flight looked like every flight of them, their service level is quite high, but as you said the seating comfort could be improved, is the seat better on the A380?
Many thanks for sharing this nice conclusion of your RTW series
Cheers
Johannes

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: CrimsonNL
Posted 2011-04-10 05:17:05 and read 27390 times.

Hi PH, thanks for sharing! Great pictures and writing. Two long haul types I have yet to fly on..

Regards, Martijn

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: CXB77L
Posted 2011-04-10 05:21:41 and read 27380 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
What type did you fly on? There wasn't a display either on my HKG-LHR flight.

I flew on the 744, but perhaps it's not so much the type than the route.

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-10 05:39:58 and read 27307 times.

Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 13):
as usual very interesting TR with many good pictures.
Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 13):
Many thanks for sharing this nice conclusion of your RTW series

Many thanks, Johannes!

Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 13):
I especially liked the ones from One Tree Hill, it is a nice spot to relax.

Yes, that's indeed a great place.

Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 13):
Normally nobody can beat the NZ lamb.

I still have to try EK's lamb...should I ever be lucky enough to get it.

Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 13):
The LH flight looked like every flight of them, their service level is quite high, but as you said the seating comfort could be improved, is the seat better on the A380?

I'd say the A380 seat was more comfortable, but the sightseeing flight was quite short. And I had a bulkhead row seat, so I cannot say much about the seat back design.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 14):
Hi PH, thanks for sharing! Great pictures and writing. Two long haul types I have yet to fly on..

Thanks, Martijn! Good to hear you enjoyed it. I can only recommend to try these two types.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 15):
I flew on the 744, but perhaps it's not so much the type than the route.

Alright, could be a reason.


PH

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: Palmjet
Posted 2011-04-10 06:07:22 and read 27219 times.

Hi PH - lovely conclusion to your round the world flights!

Looks like NZ came up as being excellent again - certainly streets ahead of your flights with TG on the outbound (which is not surprising in my view as TG never seem to live up to their once stellar reputation these days).

NZ are an excellent carrier, particularly in Y. Glad you enjoyed your flights with them. Some lovely shots of Auckland as well - I've not left the airport there since 1987 when I was on a school trip! Pleased you enjoyed the LH longhaul as well. By co-incidence, I've just flown my home carrier, QF, internationally for the first time since 1997 and while it wasn't amazing, I had a very nice flight with them. Thanks for posting this final instalment.

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: 767747
Posted 2011-04-10 09:35:19 and read 26622 times.

Another great report, PH!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Then we went to Mount Eden, the highest natural point in the whole of Auckland. You can find a majestic bowl-like volcano crater there:

I've been here! We visited in 1993 as my grandmother was born and raised there! Very cool place, with impressive views. I was very young, but I sure remember this crater!

Air NZ certainly looks very nice; I hope I get a chance to fly on them. Lufthansa looks okay too, but I'd agree with you on the seat pitch. Definitely looks cramped!

Thanks for sharing!

Matthew

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-10 09:51:39 and read 26565 times.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 17):
Hi PH - lovely conclusion to your round the world flights!
Quoting 767747 (Reply 18):
Another great report, PH!

Many thanks, Palmjet and Matthew!

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 17):
Looks like NZ came up as being excellent again - certainly streets ahead of your flights with TG on the outbound (which is not surprising in my view as TG never seem to live up to their once stellar reputation these days)

One significant problem with TG is a lack of consistency. On TG you can have great new aircraft, great crews and great food - or just old cabins, average crews and unimpressive food.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 17):
Some lovely shots of Auckland as well - I've not left the airport there since 1987 when I was on a school trip!

I definitely need to see more of the city next time.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 17):
By co-incidence, I've just flown my home carrier, QF, internationally for the first time since 1997 and while it wasn't amazing, I had a very nice flight with them.

Sounds quite familiar!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 18):
I've been here! We visited in 1993 as my grandmother was born and raised there! Very cool place, with impressive views. I was very young, but I sure remember this crater!

Yes, it's an amazing place.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 18):
Air NZ certainly looks very nice; I hope I get a chance to fly on them. Lufthansa looks okay too, but I'd agree with you on the seat pitch. Definitely looks cramped!

You you get more pitch on the A343s and A330s, but it seems the future standard will be 31 inches - at least that's what you find on the flagship, too.


PH

[Edited 2011-04-10 09:54:05]

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2011-04-10 10:11:32 and read 26467 times.

Hey, PH,

really nice to follow you´re final RTW story part.
Well done, a great combination of aircraft and NZ hit´s the point, so it seems.
I´ve never been on that carrier, so we will see when it happens!.

The LH A346 is still in my log, not the real comfortable machine from my point of view.
FRA-CAI with a fully load and some special passengers last year.

Anyway superb pictures and story.
Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-10 10:20:04 and read 26428 times.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 20):
really nice to follow you´re final RTW story part.
Well done, a great combination of aircraft and NZ hit´s the point, so it seems.
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 20):
Anyway superb pictures and story.

Servus Markus, thanks for your comments!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 20):

The LH A346 is still in my log, not the real comfortable machine from my point of view.
FRA-CAI with a fully load and some special passengers last year.

Yes, I still remember that report.


PH

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: lychemsa
Posted 2011-04-10 11:25:08 and read 26179 times.

I find 31" "unacceptable." That's why I avoid LH, VS and BA transatlantic.

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: flightsimboy
Posted 2011-04-10 11:28:37 and read 26160 times.

Hello Plane Hunter!

Great final installments on NZ and LH! Always a pleasure to read these long haul reports on a lazy Sunday morning, especially a cold and cloudy one like today  

I somehow enjoyed your trip on NZ more than I did on LH, even though the LH was the one I was definitely waiting to read about. Not sure if I liked the NZ more because it was a Pacific crossing (see reason why in the comments below)

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
.I checked out and met Nicholas alias trip reporter NZ107 for the first time.

Nicholas has been playing host to some a.netters recently!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
a very friendly male agent waved to me. Only a few minutes later, he printed the boarding pass for the SFO flight with my pre-reserved seat number (65A, last row). ..... he said and wished me a pleasant journey. That's what I call a good start! thumbsup
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
A rather unfriendly male agent confirmed my seat 55A and printed a new boarding pass.

Hmm in contrast, LH's welcome did not seem so friendly. My best check in has actually been with LH at YYZ! The check in agent really made me feel she was so happy to have me flying with them!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

Pretty good headphones were available, but neither amenity kits nor hot towels:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Neither amenity kits nor menu cards were available, but at least hot towels were distributed.

This is where Middle Eastern carriers have pampered travellers, by providing these while others have opted to eliminate these from their services.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

You don't find menu cards on Air New Zealand which prefers to show the meal options on the IFE screen.

Is this something that is shown "again" just before meals are served to get the passengers attention, and does it usually disrupt normal programming like an inflight announcement made by the captain or cabin crew. It's quite ridiculous to show it 45 minutes after take off, which could be quite an inconvenience to have to remember your meal choice or quickly jot it down somewhere on a piece of paper lol

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Back in 2008, I had been impressed by NZ's lamb, so this was my choice again:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Scrambled eggs or pancakes? I opted for the former:

Those meal presentations and bowls on NZ are really nice!! There were recently pics of the meal trays on TG and I think both LH and AC need to present their meals better, instead of one those aluminium trays!! If the other Star Alliance carriers are doing a good job with theirs on ceramic ones, so can they. Very impressed with the meal presentation, and glad that you enjoyed your meal party on NZ but completely on LH!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Pretty interesting features:

Very interesting indeed. I would have had that as a constant display on the seat back window of the empty seat at the side of me!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Shortly after dinner, we entered a period of turbulence which would last between five and six hours. The intensity kept changing, but became quite strong from time to time.

I can't recall experiencing such severe turbulence of such a long duration over the Pacific, except on the MH flight from LAX to TPE!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Flying over the Pacific was really something special:

It's quite amazing actually, thinking you have those endless hours over the large expanse of water. Makes an Atlantic crossing seem like a tease!! (Well at least the crossing from US East Coast to Europe)

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
And I liked the fact that they had always put lemons in their water carafes.

Probably to help prevent vomitting from all that nauseating effects of turbulence lol

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
About 20 minutes before landing, flight attendants offered candy - and on my side a little girl was strolling through the aisle with a candy basket. "So you are helping out today?", I asked her and she nodded with a smile. Very nice gesture by the cabin crew - I guess it made the girl really happy.

That is so amazing! That little girl will remember that all her life. No telling if it might lead to future cabin crew aspirations!! NZ really feels like a fun to fly with airline, I think what Westjet is in Canada. Perhaps they should team up lol

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Land in sight!

I know the feeling!! Felt the same way when finally seeing land after all those long haul Pacific crossings!! Actually brings a sense of relief to know that land is soon approaching (One does prefer to be over land in the event of an emergency, rather than over a large expanse of water). Not forgetting that most of these Pacific crossings are in the night or at least you have nothing but night outside your window, with the first signs of land appearing with the break of dawn!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Now the seat next to me was empty again - and it remained so even after boarding had been completed. This made my day! thumbsup
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Only few people were seated in the rear section - and I was happy that the aisle seat next to me remained empty! thumbsup

You are quite lucky to have had no one sit at your side for these super long haul crossings! My worst experience was sitting in the last seat on the EK A345 DXB-JFK for those +12 hours with restricted recline, and my neighbour who hogged the armrest the entire way! Have only been lucky to have the seat unoccupied on MH 744 (LAX-TPE) ,EK 772LR (DXB-JFK) and QF 744 (SYD-LAX)

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
D-AIHA (MSN 482), named "Nürnberg"

You are lucky to live in Germany where you can easily get the Herpa 1:200 version of this awesome model!! Even more special now since you flew on it. It is so difficult to get one at a reasonable price over here!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The plane was D-AIHA, the oldest A340-600 in the fleet. However, it was once delivered to Lufthansa after its sister ships D-AIHB, D-AIHC and D-AIHD.

Strange that D-AIHA should have been delivered after B, C and D. Don't aircraft get christened according to the order they enter the fleet? D-AIHA and D-AIHK are regular visitors to YYZ!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Lufthansa has introduced rather big PTV screens,

Didn't have PTV screens on any of my LH flights, but still found them enjoyable!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The male purser appeared to be quite rigorous while he was speaking, he somehow reminded me of a strict teacher.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The young male flight attendant showed up again and didn't just quickly ask "chicken or pasta", but kindly said: "We have chicken or pasta for dinner today, what would you like to eat?" I decided to try the chicken and also ordered white wine:

Perhaps strict because he had some very junior attendants on this flight lol

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I walked forward and had a look at the underfloor lavatory section. Here's the entrance:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
You can also find a small snack bar there - and on the opposite side there's also a crew rest entry door:

Up to three people were hanging around in that area at the same time. I still didn't feel cramped, though.

Nicely illuminated stairway:

Very cool feature to have those lavatories down there! Also quite interesting to know of the little watering hole snack bar in that area too. I wonder if most passengers actually go down there to stretch their legs, or only stop by there when using the lavatories. I don't think too many could gather there for too long anyway, it's not EK's J class bar on the A380 lol

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We took a quite northerly routing:

Most flights to and from the US West Coast to Europe fly these Northerly routes.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After flying more than 42000 kilometers, my round-the-world trip slowly came to an end.

And what a trip it has been!! And I must chime this in again all in less than two weeks. Very impressive indeed!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
also flying on the (new) "München" on a sightseeing flight over the Alps in summer.

I need to go read that trip report again.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Of course I will fly Lufthansa again - actually I have just recently booked a trip which includes another LH long-haul flight.

Looking forward to this one already!!

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: FlyingFinn76
Posted 2011-04-10 11:30:42 and read 26150 times.

Hi PH,

A very good conclusion for your RTW trip. Having done some really weird stuff myself over the years I still find it amazing that you do two 11 hour flights with just 9 hours in between. A VERY wise decision booking that cheap dayroom, I think you'd be dead if you hanged out the whole time at the airport. BTW Burlingame holds a special status for me as I used to travel there regularly for one job in the past. A very nice place and very close to SFO.

NZ looks very nice, and of course the triple seven just is a very amazing piece of machinery.

Good to have some overview about the LH 346 - am scheduled to fly my first flights with the type in October (yes. it is FRA-BOG-FRA, and half of it is shared with Gab, LH mistake fares can be fun!  ), I have reserved a window seat on the last row for the outbound, can't remember what it is for the inbound. Still hoping for an exit row assignment at the day of travel, but let's see. I'm glad LH finally has some decent IFE with PTVs, my last long haul flights with them were FRA-YYZ-FRA back in 2005 with the 744 and of course no PTVs at all, very old fashioned.

Greetings from CPH airport, will board my 999th (logged) flight in two hours!  

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2011-04-10 11:58:36 and read 26084 times.

Nice report PH, thanks for sharing.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
my first Pacific crossing.

- Nice, got my first one later in the year.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I got a total 21 new registrations on that day which wasn't bad

- Not bad, I suspect we won't see most of those in Europe?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I was happy that the aisle seat next to me remained empty!

- Always nice! How was this seat? Seat Guru suggests the location of tegh lavatories behind might be an issue......

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The meal was nicely presented and tasted quite good in general

- I have to say not a bad looking meal, presentation look sok too.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Now the seat next to me was empty again - and it remained so even after boarding had been completed. This made my day

- Result!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The main course didn't look very appealing

- No, looks pretty poor, that said, in my experience LH food is actually better than it looks.

Rgds

Mark

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-10 12:40:45 and read 25953 times.

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 22):
I find 31" "unacceptable." That's why I avoid LH, VS and BA transatlantic.

Well, the seat design also plays a role, 31" is not the same everywhere. Btw - you get 32" on VS A343 and A346 as well as on LH's A343s. I just flew on VS A343 and A346 and found them quite comfortable.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
Great final installments on NZ and LH! Always a pleasure to read these long haul reports on a lazy Sunday morning, especially a cold and cloudy one like today

Hi flightsimboy, thank you so much for your feedback, always appreciated. Good to hear the report kept you entertained.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
Nicholas has been playing host to some a.netters recently!

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
Hmm in contrast, LH's welcome did not seem so friendly. My best check in has actually been with LH at YYZ! The check in agent really made me feel she was so happy to have me flying with them!!

Well, it was just this guy at SFO. I cannot remember having met another unfriendly LH agent in the last few years.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
This is where Middle Eastern carriers have pampered travellers, by providing these while others have opted to eliminate these from their services.

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
Is this something that is shown "again" just before meals are served to get the passengers attention, and does it usually disrupt normal programming like an inflight announcement made by the captain or cabin crew. It's quite ridiculous to show it 45 minutes after take off, which could be quite an inconvenience to have to remember your meal choice or quickly jot it down somewhere on a piece of paper lol

Probably they showed it again and I just didn't notice. And yes, it does interrupt the normal programming.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
There were recently pics of the meal trays on TG and I think both LH and AC need to present their meals better, instead of one those aluminium trays!!

I can only agree. Those bowls really make a difference.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):

I can't recall experiencing such severe turbulence of such a long duration over the Pacific, except on the MH flight from LAX to TPE!

Well, I was surprised about that, too. I guess that doesn't happen very often.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
It's quite amazing actually, thinking you have those endless hours over the large expanse of water. Makes an Atlantic crossing seem like a tease!! (Well at least the crossing from US East Coast to Europe)

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
One does prefer to be over land in the event of an emergency, rather than over a large expanse of water

I have always had full confidence in ETOPS...

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
NZ really feels like a fun to fly with airline, I think what Westjet is in Canada.

That's an airline I'm really interested in. Maybe I'll visit Canada next year. I haven't been to YYZ and YVR yet...

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
My worst experience was sitting in the last seat on the EK A345 DXB-JFK for those 12 hours with restricted recline, and my neighbour who hogged the armrest the entire way!

Wow, that sounds bad.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
You are quite lucky to have had no one sit at your side for these super long haul crossings!

Yes, that was big luck!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
You are lucky to live in Germany where you can easily get the Herpa 1:200 version of this awesome model!! Even more special now since you flew on it. It is so difficult to get one at a reasonable price over here!

Are those really much more expensive over there? I used to collect 1:500 and 1:400 models (Herpa, GeminiJets, Dragon Wings), but haven't bought a new one for many years.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
Strange that D-AIHA should have been delivered after B, C and D. Don't aircraft get christened according to the order they enter the fleet? D-AIHA and D-AIHK are regular visitors to YYZ!

D-AIHA has been a MUC-based aircraft for quite a while and therefore hasn't visited YYZ during that period. Ihave to check whether it has returned to FRA again.

LH's naming policy is a bit confusing sometimes. Some A330s and A346s were only named a few months or even years after delivery, and numerous frames still don't have a name yet. Btw - the first four A346s were delivered within four weeks. Who knows why D-AIHA was delivered first, there could be various reasons.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
I don't think too many could gather there for too long anyway, it's not EK's J class bar on the A380 lol

That's true. There are better things to watch than lavatory-bound people...  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
Most flights to and from the US West Coast to Europe fly these Northerly routes.

I hadn't flown on such a route for a while.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
I need to go read that trip report again.

Have fun!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 23):
Looking forward to this one already!!

The flight will take place in May, so expect the report in September or October...  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
A very good conclusion for your RTW trip.

Hi FlyingFinn, thanks for your feedback.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
Having done some really weird stuff myself over the years I still find it amazing that you do two 11 hour flights with just 9 hours in between. A VERY wise decision booking that cheap dayroom, I think you'd be dead if you hanged out the whole time at the airport.

I would never make such a trip without a day room or an overnight stay. I suffer from headache quite often, such a journey could easily become a nightmare without a recovery phase.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
BTW Burlingame holds a special status for me as I used to travel there regularly for one job in the past. A very nice place and very close to SFO.

I have also stayed there several times, the location is really good.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
Good to have some overview about the LH 346 - am scheduled to fly my first flights with the type in October (yes. it is FRA-BOG-FRA, and half of it is shared with Gab, LH mistake fares can be fun!

That sounds great. LH mistake fares???

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
I'm glad LH finally has some decent IFE with PTVs, my last long haul flights with them were FRA-YYZ-FRA back in 2005 with the 744 and of course no PTVs at all, very old fashioned.

I remember well my four long-haul flights on LH 744s. It's nice that those planes are also getting PTVs - at least the ones which will be kept for a few more years.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
Greetings from CPH airport, will board my 999th (logged) flight in two hours!

Have fun! That's quite an achievement. What about the 1000th flight? Will that be a special one?

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 25):
Nice report PH, thanks for sharing.

Hi Mark, thanks for commenting!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 25):
Nice, got my first one later in the year.

Very nice - I guess a.net's most eager A380 hunter has booked LAX-ICN on KE...  

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 25):
Not bad, I suspect we won't see most of those in Europe?

That's right, numerous NZ narrowbodies and NZ Link aircraft among them.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 25):
How was this seat? Seat Guru suggests the location of tegh lavatories behind might be an issue......

It was fine, the location of the lavatories has never been a problem.


PH

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: AlwaysOnAPlane
Posted 2011-04-10 15:00:35 and read 25640 times.

Hi PH.

Excellent conclusion to what has been a very enjoyable RTW report.

A lot of miles under the belt with these last two flights. Good to learn you had empty seats at your side. Its nice to spread out a bit. Funny that on the SFO-MUC leg you potentially had two seat mates that both ended up finding the wrong seat.

Looks to be good service offered by both carriers here. Just a shame the LH seating is tighter in addition to the IFE box eating into the space even more.

The steps leading to/from the toilet look cool.

Look forward to reading more of your stuff PH. Always enjoyable.

Cheers, Lee.

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: Aflyingkiwi
Posted 2011-04-10 21:52:47 and read 24986 times.

Hi PH,

Fantastic end to this RTW adventure.

Glad to see that you enjoyed your flight with NZ and that you were able to log the A346. Definately a pretty rare bird which I hope to be able to log sometime.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
e wasn't able to get access to the Lufthansa seat map at first, but then he asked a colleague and looked something up in a manual. He remained in good mood all the time and seemed to be very motivated to sort this out. Finally, his machine printed the boarding pass (seat 55A) and he cheerfully said "Yessssss!"

Good to see that NZ's service on the ground is very good.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
While the plane was climbing to cruising altitude, I had a look at the AVOD entertainment system. It's easy to navigate and offers a wide range of options, including more than 70 movies in numerous languages, more than 70 TV features, 16 music channels, more than 200 music CDs (playlist builder), 20 video games, a 3D airshow channel, destination information and travel guides

One thing that NZ do well is IFE and it will only get better with the new IFE currently on the 77W getting installed on the 77E's over the next year or so,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The meal was nicely presented and tasted quite good in general, but there were too many fatty pieces in the main course. The ice cream dessert (no Häagen-Dazs like in 2008) tasted fine, but it had already partly melted when I was ready to eat it.

The quantity of the meal is looks massive though it's a shame that it didn't entirely meet your expectations.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After I had returned to my seat again, a guy sat down next to me and asked whether this was my laptop in his seat pocket...this was rather odd, I thought. Some moments later, another guy showed up, took the laptop and disappeared again. Then the guy next to me checked his boarding pass, jumped up again, took all his belongings and also walked away. Now the seat next to me was empty again - and it remained so even after boarding had been completed. This made my day!

Interesting series of events but the outcome would've made you happy.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
You can choose between 18 movies in numerous languages, 35 TV and music programs, 30 radio channels, 100 CDs and audio books and a classic airshow channel. Games are only available on the A380. LH's "mediaworld" certainly doesn't belong to the most advanced systems in the business, but it can keep you entertained for a long time.

One thing that I don't really like about LH is their lack of IFE on most of their fleet (744's). Hopefully we'll see some improvements with the new A380's & 748s coming along.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I walked forward and had a look at the underfloor lavatory section. Here's the entrance:

That idea seems pretty cool, interesting to see that it hasn't caught on with other types.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I flew on 7 new airlines and 3 new types, visited 4 new airports and logged a total of 187 new registrations.

Very impressive.

Regards,
aflyingkiwi

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-10 22:22:59 and read 24914 times.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 27):
Excellent conclusion to what has been a very enjoyable RTW report.
Quoting Aflyingkiwi (Reply 28):
Fantastic end to this RTW adventure.

Hi Lee and Aflyingkiwi,

many thanks for your nice comments!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 27):
Good to learn you had empty seats at your side. Its nice to spread out a bit.

More space, more privacy, it always makes a flight more enjoyable.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 27):
Funny that on the SFO-MUC leg you potentially had two seat mates that both ended up finding the wrong seat.

Yes, vener experiences something like that before.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 27):
The steps leading to/from the toilet look cool.
Quoting Aflyingkiwi (Reply 28):

That idea seems pretty cool, interesting to see that it hasn't caught on with other types.

It will be interesting whether LH will keep that configuration on the long term. The result is more seats, but less cargo.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 27):
Look forward to reading more of your stuff PH. Always enjoyable.

Many more reports to follow!

Quoting Aflyingkiwi (Reply 28):

Glad to see that you enjoyed your flight with NZ and that you were able to log the A346. Definately a pretty rare bird which I hope to be able to log sometime.

It's too bad that only 99 frames have been built. But the birds will remain in service for many more years, so you'll get your chance.

Quoting Aflyingkiwi (Reply 28):
One thing that NZ do well is IFE and it will only get better with the new IFE currently on the 77W getting installed on the 77E's over the next year or so,

Sounds good!

Quoting Aflyingkiwi (Reply 28):
One thing that I don't really like about LH is their lack of IFE on most of their fleet (744's). Hopefully we'll see some improvements with the new A380's & 748s coming along.

The 744s - at least a part of the fleet - are getting PTVs now. The IFE on the A380 is quite similar to the existing system on the A330s and A340s, but LH may introduce a new version on the 748. Smaller IFE boxes like on EK would be great.


PH

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: sultanils
Posted 2011-04-11 03:54:51 and read 24508 times.

Hellow PH,

Another nice report concluding your RTW series, I followed your travels with great interest, thank you for your efforts to share them with us. I find somewhat funny that you were away for only 11 days, that is not what every RTW traveller does... But then again, us aviation enthusiast are a bit crazy, aren't we?  
The return flight has some symbolism about it met thinks, you being German (I presume) returning home on your 'home carrier' Lufthansa on an aircraft you've never flown before.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Pretty interesting features

Hey, that's cool!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
and I started playing "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire"

Wrong answer  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
at the underfloor lavatory section
I did not know the A346 has 'underground' toilets?

Regards,
(Sulta)Nils

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-11 04:28:45 and read 24433 times.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
Another nice report concluding your RTW series, I followed your travels with great interest, thank you for your efforts to share them with us.

Hi Nils, thanks for your feedback.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
I find somewhat funny that you were away for only 11 days, that is not what every RTW traveller does... But then again, us aviation enthusiast are a bit crazy, aren't we?

   Most of my itineraries may look weird to non-enthusiasts...

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
The return flight has some symbolism about it met thinks, you being German (I presume) returning home on your 'home carrier' Lufthansa on an aircraft you've never flown before.

And it was my first LH long-haul flight since 1995.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
Wrong answer

Yes, I know. See reply no 12.


PH

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: akhmad
Posted 2011-04-11 10:43:23 and read 24070 times.

Hi there PH,

I am sorry for the late reply. I had to read the final part of your RTW trip over and over again as I did not want it to end.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
One Tree Hill

I only knew the name from TV series. Thanks for enlightening review of the sight.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
He wasn't able to get access to the Lufthansa seat map at first, but then he asked a colleague and looked something up in a manual. He remained in good mood all the time and seemed to be very motivated to sort this out. Finally, his machine printed the boarding pass (seat 55A) and he cheerfully said "Yessssss!" Before leaving, I asked him about the passenger load on the SFO flight. "It's half empty!", he said and wished me a pleasant journey. That's what I call a good start!

Indeed. Such dedicated guy set successfully the tone of the flight experience.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
During a period of light turbulence, I went to the galley to get a drink. A friendly female flight attendant in the 40s quickly handed it out to me and also spontaneously gave me two cracker packs. Very nice service!
Later, I also noticed that the flight attendants frequently kept passing through the cabin with water. And I liked the fact that they had always put lemons in their water carafes.

And just look at that! It kept going on!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The flight attendants were preparing to serve breakfast and I started playing "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire":

What if Dim Sum happened to be the right answer?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
and on my side a little girl was strolling through the aisle with a candy basket. "So you are helping out today?", I asked her and she nodded with a smile. Very nice gesture by the cabin crew - I guess it made the girl really happy.

This makes me melt. So sweet! Did you take any picture of the little girl?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I thanked the friendly flight attendant in the 40s for the good service and told her that I had been quite satisfied with the seating comfort. Of course she was happy to hear that.

I applaud your move. The best way to show your gratitude!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Now the seat next to me was empty again - and it remained so even after boarding had been completed. This made my day!

You were blessed for the last leg! No doubt about it!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After dinner, I walked forward and had a look at the underfloor lavatory section.

Thank you so much for sharing the glimpse of the under floor lavatory. I was curious how it looked like. Surprising to find a snack corner there.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"Are you from Nuremberg?", a female flight attendant kindly asked me while I was taking pictures of the badge. I just told her that I had been glad about getting on the "Nürnberg" after also flying on the (new) "München" on a sightseeing flight over the Alps in summer. "Oh, you are ahead of us!", she replied.
Totally Thrilling: Scenic Flight On Lufthansa A380 (by PlaneHunter Aug 5 2010 in Trip Reports)

Nice!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
One more picture from the terminal - my first ride on the longest plane in commercial service was a really enjoyable one:

Aah, this particular angle brings back the nice memory last year.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
actually I have just recently booked a trip which includes another LH long-haul flight.

Do you mean the trip you took last February or another one? PH, are you probably flying to Indonesia?

You have really saved the best for last! Thank you so much for taking us along this lovely, exciting journey.

Cheers,
Suryo

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: The777Man
Posted 2011-04-11 12:19:20 and read 23927 times.

Hi PlaneHunter!

Thanks for an excellent conclusion with wonderful pictures with your round the world adventure!

Auckland looks great; very scenic! Nice areas for spotting too. I was just in transit when I was there about 5 years ago so didn't see much......

NZ looks very good; nice meal and nice IFE especially love the gauges display with altitude, airspeed etc! Too bad NZ will install 3-4-3 seating on the 772 as well; makes flying them much less attractive in the future...

Yes, the South Pacific is usually very bumpy. In my expexperience, three-four hours of severe turbulence is very common. North Pacific is usually not very bumpy at all; just like the North Atlantic. I've been told that there's more turbulenze on routes where you cross in and out of the tropics.

Great that you got three seats to yourself; makes a HUGE difference in my opinion.

Very good idea to get the motel in SF; looks nice! Amazing that you did a Pacific AND Atlantic crossing the same day!!!! Very impressive!!!

LH looks okay but legroom is not great at all.....now you understand why my MUC-LAX flight pales in comparison to
my LAX-IST on TK especially when you consider me being in a center seat and TWO sreaming infants nearby. At least the other center seat next to me was open....

LH were pretty good with water runs on my flight but doesn't help me much.......

Now understand why you though I'd be on AIHA!!! AIHR was okay and nice to spend time wih you spotting at MUC although it was very cold and windy.

Looking forward to your next report very much, when that may be.

The777Man

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-11 12:36:08 and read 23881 times.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 32):
I am sorry for the late reply. I had to read the final part of your RTW trip over and over again as I did not want it to end.
Quoting akhmad (Reply 32):
You have really saved the best for last! Thank you so much for taking us along this lovely, exciting journey.

Hi Suryo, thanks so much for your kind comments!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 32):
This makes me melt. So sweet! Did you take any picture of the little girl?

No, I don't take pictures of common people I don't know.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 32):
I applaud your move. The best way to show your gratitude!

Sometimes you simply have to praise them.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 32):
Surprising to find a snack corner there.

Yes, I was surprised about that, too.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 32):
Do you mean the trip you took last February or another one?

I meant another one, scheduled for May. Should be a pretty interesting trip...new country, some new airports and some new airlines.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 32):
PH, are you probably flying to Indonesia?

No, but I'd like to go there again one day.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 33):

Thanks for an excellent conclusion with wonderful pictures with your round the world adventure!

Hi Lars, many thanks, your feedback is always appreciated!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 33):
Yes, the South Pacific is usually very bumpy. In my expexperience, three-four hours of severe turbulence is very common.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 33):
Great that you got three seats to yourself; makes a HUGE difference in my opinion.

Absolutely - probably one reason why I didn't feel bad at all after arrival at MUC.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 33):
Very good idea to get the motel in SF; looks nice!

Yes, I preferred resting over spotting this time.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 33):
LH looks okay but legroom is not great at all.....now you understand why my MUC-LAX flight pales in comparison to
my LAX-IST on TK especially when you consider me being in a center seat and TWO sreaming infants nearby.

Sure, I can imagine how different these flights were.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 33):
Now understand why you though I'd be on AIHA!!! AIHR was okay and nice to spend time wih you spotting at MUC although it was very cold and windy.

I enjoyed that, too! Don't forget the weather could have been MUCH MUCH WORSE!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 33):
Looking forward to your next report very much, when that may be.

Should be online quite soon...


PH

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: KLM777300ER
Posted 2011-04-11 22:31:13 and read 23493 times.

Great trip report!

Having flown LH on IAD-FRA, PHL-FRA, FRA-DXB, and FRA-CAI on a combination of the B744, A333, A343, and A346, I will definitely say I found the actual seat itself to be the least comfortable on the A346. The A333 and A343 either have more legroom by one or two inches, or the seat design made the legroom feel noticeably more spacious. Getting off the A333 on PHL-FRA and then boarding the A346 on FRA-CAI, I remember thinking to myself how glad I was that the shorter flight was not on the A346 because my knees kept banging into the seat back and restricted my ability to even remotely stretch my legs. The new A343 seats were in my opinion the most comfortable.

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: NZ107
Posted 2011-04-12 04:07:30 and read 23236 times.

Hi PH,

Glad to finally see this one up here! Great TR. It was a pleasure meeting up with you in Auckland.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Thanks again for a great day in Auckland!

You're most welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.


It's great having an empty seat next to you, especially on a long haul flight. It makes the flight that much more comfortable!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Two NZ heavies resting in a hangar:

You'll find a third (744 by the look of it) in the hangar to the right!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
(no Häagen-Dazs like in 2008)

Haagen-Dazs doesn't exist in New Zealand; but Kapiti, a premium New Zealand brand, suffices.

The meals still look good with consistent serving sizes.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The breakfast was delicious, everything was really tasty. And the presentation was nice, too. Well done, Air New Zealand!

If I went again today, I'd be split between sticking with the really nice pancakes and going for the scrambled eggs! Though I must say the scrambled eggs and baked beans look much more substantial.

It's funny as there was barely any turbulence on my flights. Maybe the 747 handles it better than the 777?  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
flight attendants offered candy - and on my side a little girl was strolling through the aisle with a candy basket. "So you are helping out today?", I asked her and she nodded with a smile. Very nice gesture by the cabin crew - I guess it made the girl really happy.

Air NZ has done this often - got kids to hand out the lollies. It's great because the kids get to take home a cupful of them (back in the days, it used to be much more!)!


The A346 is one thing on my list.. That'll complete the A340 family for me.

The LH meals don't seem too bad but I'm sure I'd take the NZ ones any day! I do like the look of the downstairs lavatory. It sure is something different!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
my first ride on the longest plane in commercial service was a really enjoyable one:

That'll change soon when the 748 starts service!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I flew on 7 new airlines and 3 new types, visited 4 new airports and logged a total of 187 new registrations

Good to hear.


Thanks a lot for sharing this amazing journey around the world! Something I'd like to do sometime.

Looking forward to the next series from you!


Cheers,
Nicholas

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-12 11:50:42 and read 22890 times.

Quoting KLM777300ER (Reply 35):
Great trip report!

Thanks!

Quoting KLM777300ER (Reply 35):
The A333 and A343 either have more legroom by one or two inches, or the seat design made the legroom feel noticeably more spacious.

Yes, Seatguru confirms this. But it seems 31" is the new standard, that's what you also find on the A380.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):

Glad to finally see this one up here! Great TR. It was a pleasure meeting up with you in Auckland.
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):

Thanks a lot for sharing this amazing journey around the world! Something I'd like to do sometime.

Hi Nicholas, many thanks for your comments!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):
You're most welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.

  

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):
You'll find a third (744 by the look of it) in the hangar to the right!

Hey, I hadn't noticed that!

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):
Haagen-Dazs doesn't exist in New Zealand; but Kapiti, a premium New Zealand brand, suffices.

Interesting to know.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):
If I went again today, I'd be split between sticking with the really nice pancakes and going for the scrambled eggs! Though I must say the scrambled eggs and baked beans look much more substantial.

I guess I would try the pancakes next time...just out of curiosity.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):
Maybe the 747 handles it better than the 777?

Only a little bit maybe.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):
That'll change soon when the 748 starts service!

Yes, I almost wrote "longest plane", but then I added "in commercial service".


PH

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: Luftfahrer
Posted 2011-04-13 07:49:05 and read 22302 times.

Thank you very much for taking the time to write this trip report and sharing it with us, PlaneHunter. I enjoyed every bit of it – great work! Keep it up.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I would leave on 2 October and return 11 days later, after flying 26345 miles (42398 kilometers).

Once more, I can only marvel at these stats...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I decided to make an eastbound RTW trip and booked the AKL-SFO-MUC

I would do the same... any day of the week!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I got a total 21 new registrations on that day which wasn't bad.

If 21 new registrations aren't bad for you, then how many registrations have you logged in total so far? 
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"It's half empty!"

Not good for Lufthansa.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
You don't find menu cards on Air New Zealand which prefers to show the meal options on the IFE screen.

Quite handy. Next technological advancement will be that you can order your choice of meal through the IFE screen?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Back in 2008, I had been impressed by NZ's lamb, so this was my choice again:

Love the china/glassware in economy class...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
no Häagen-Dazs like in 2008

Delta Air Lines also pulled it from economy class. But it's understandable, Häagen-Dazs costs a lot after all...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I was very satisfied with that cheap motel.

I have also stayed a quite a few motels in the US and everytime, I was pleasantly surprised.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
1st A340-600 flight

Well... congrats!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
What to say? I can only praise Lufthansa for that breakfast

Now that's a real breakfast... especially when I compare it to what I was served on Delta last year.

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: LazialeMKD
Posted 2011-04-13 08:48:26 and read 22208 times.

What a great report, very nice comments and pictures. That ANZ flight looked very good, although you had turbulence quite a bit, something what I hate over water surface.
And doing two longhaul flights in such a short period is really enjoyable I guess, if you ignore the tiredness  .
Thanks for sharing

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: parton87
Posted 2011-04-13 14:39:38 and read 21880 times.

Hello PH

What a nice report on your return from down under. A interesting route I have to say. Both LH and Air NZ looks like good airlines.

The city of Auckland looks like a beautiful city. it would be fun to see it with my own eyes one day 
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After another relaxing night and an excellent breakfast at the Jet Park Airport Hotel....



Looks cozy with the palms

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
even contained a fleet information page:



The most interesting part of a in-flight magazine 
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
and not on the familiar neighbor to the left:



:D

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We left the gate slightly ahead of schedule in beautiful evening light:



Very beautiful

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I had been impressed by NZ's lamb, so this was my choice again:



Looks delicious

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
extends too far down which makes it more difficult than usual to stretch out



Seems very tight for that long flight.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
One more picture from the terminal - my first ride on the longest plane in commercial service was a really enjoyable one:



It´s for sure a impressive bird. Pity that they are not more common!

Thanks again! Hope to see more from you soon!

Greetings
Robert

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: NZ107
Posted 2011-04-13 15:31:16 and read 21831 times.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 38):
Quite handy. Next technological advancement will be that you can order your choice of meal through the IFE screen?

That was the aim anyway.. Something like what Virgin America currently do. I'm not sure if that is going ahead anymore but I think you can still order drinks and snacks over the IFE.

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: ronerone
Posted 2011-04-14 11:25:53 and read 21497 times.

What a great TR PlaneHunter! I thoroughly enjoyed the entire series, and i am quite sad that it has already come to an end! .. Felt like we were flying around the world with you, and as with all such nice joyride trips, they always seem to come to an end rather quickly!

In any case, ULH trips on both Air New Zealand and Lufthansa seem just the right thing for a grand finale   And as it always seems, i am again impressed with what both can offer!


You have been to some of the same places i went to in Auckland, and you even took some of the same pictures too!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
There were plenty of staffed counters in the Air New Zealand check-in area and I just had to wait a few minutes until a very friendly male agent waved to me. Only a few minutes later, he printed the boarding pass for the SFO flight with my pre-reserved seat number (65A, last row). Then I asked the agent whether he could already issue the second boarding pass, too. He wasn't able to get access to the Lufthansa seat map at first, but then he asked a colleague and looked something up in a manual. He remained in good mood all the time and seemed to be very motivated to sort this out. Finally, his machine printed the boarding pass (seat 55A) and he cheerfully said "Yessssss!" Before leaving, I asked him about the passenger load on the SFO flight. "It's half empty!", he said and wished me a pleasant journey. That's what I call a good start!

I seriously think that New Zealand really knows proper customer service! In many ways than one, i found it to outdo Singapore, Hong Kong, Bangkok and the bunch.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The plane turned out to be ZK-OKH, the newest of eight 777-200ERs in the fleet.

You've recently been getting the first aircraft of the fleet, but i think getting the newest one is also a nice suprise!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Pretty good headphones were available, but neither amenity kits nor hot towels:

Seems like decent quality! With a unique baby-blue wire though  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
and not on the familiar neighbor to the left:

A waste of an A342! haha  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
While the plane was climbing to cruising altitude, I had a look at the AVOD entertainment system. It's easy to navigate and offers a wide range of options, including more than 70 movies in numerous languages, more than 70 TV features, 16 music channels, more than 200 music CDs (playlist builder), 20 video games, a 3D airshow channel, destination information and travel guides. Main menu:

Quite impressive!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
You don't find menu cards on Air New Zealand which prefers to show the meal options on the IFE screen.

I do prefer to collect my hard copy menu, but i also find this modern feature quite interesting too.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Flying over the Pacific was really something special:

Something that is missing from my life! Never done that before! haha

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The breakfast was delicious, everything was really tasty. And the presentation was nice, too. Well done, Air New Zealand!

What a nice looking breakfast! Very healthy, and even the sausage does not seem too oily.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
, flight attendants offered candy - and on my side a little girl was strolling through the aisle with a candy basket. "So you are helping out today?", I asked her and she nodded with a smile. Very nice gesture by the cabin crew - I guess it made the girl really happy.

Very nice! I have not heard of something like this since a friend -when she was probably as old as that girl- helped serve drinks onboard a British Caledonian flight!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The plane was D-AIHA, the oldest A340-600 in the fleet. However, it was once delivered to Lufthansa after its sister ships D-AIHB, D-AIHC and D-AIHD. I usually prefer getting the oldest or newest frame, so this was a perfect start of my first trip on the A340-600.

See? It never fails!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The main course didn't look very appealing, but the meat, the sauce and the pumpkin mashed potatoes tasted quite good. I also enjoyed the salad, the tiramisu cake and the wine.

Looks quite good! I've always enjoyed Lufthansa's catering (back in the 1980's and 90's).

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
You can also find a small snack bar there - and on the opposite side there's also a crew rest entry door:

Now this is something totally new to me! wow!!


Thanks a lot for sharing! Looking forward to more new series soon!

Cheers,
Roni

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-14 11:52:53 and read 21462 times.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 38):
Thank you very much for taking the time to write this trip report and sharing it with us, PlaneHunter. I enjoyed every bit of it – great work! Keep it up.
Quoting LazialeMKD (Reply 39):
What a great report, very nice comments and pictures.
Quoting parton87 (Reply 40):
What a nice report on your return from down under. A interesting route I have to say. Both LH and Air NZ looks like good airlines.
Quoting ronerone (Reply 42):
What a great TR PlaneHunter!

Hi Marius, Angel, Robert and Roni, many thanks for all your nice comments!

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 38):

I would do the same... any day of the week!

I would like do the same again, better today than tomorrow...but on different carriers, of course!  

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 38):
If 21 new registrations aren't bad for you, then how many registrations have you logged in total so far?

Thousands...

21 was quite good at AKL on that day because I had already logged numerous domestic birds on the day before.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 38):
Love the china/glassware in economy class...

Yes, much better than the cheap plastic containers on many carriers.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 38):
But it's understandable, Häagen-Dazs costs a lot after all...

No doubt about that, it's overpriced!

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 38):
I have also stayed a quite a few motels in the US and everytime, I was pleasantly surprised.

You get much better deals over there than in Europe.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 38):
Well... congrats!

Thanks. Just flew on the type for the second time...a third flight should follow soon. However, I hadn't been yet aware of that back in October.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 38):
Now that's a real breakfast... especially when I compare it to what I was served on Delta last year.

Well, I guess even US carriers serve a bit more on West Coast-Europe flights.

Quoting LazialeMKD (Reply 39):
And doing two longhaul flights in such a short period is really enjoyable I guess, if you ignore the tiredness

Well, I got some sleep on the NZ flight and could rest for a while at SFO, so I arrived in relatively good shape.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 40):
The city of Auckland looks like a beautiful city. it would be fun to see it with my own eyes one day

I'm sure you'd like it.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 40):
Looks cozy with the palms

  

Quoting parton87 (Reply 40):
Seems very tight for that long flight.

Yes, that must be improved.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 40):
It´s for sure a impressive bird. Pity that they are not more common!

That's true, but the existing ones will be around for many more years.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 40):
Hope to see more from you soon!

Numerous reports planned.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 41):
That was the aim anyway.. Something like what Virgin America currently do. I'm not sure if that is going ahead anymore but I think you can still order drinks and snacks over the IFE.

It's an interesting concept...I still prefer the good old menu card, though.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 42):
I thoroughly enjoyed the entire series, and i am quite sad that it has already come to an end! .. Felt like we were flying around the world with you, and as with all such nice joyride trips, they always seem to come to an end rather quickly!

That's very nice to hear, Roni!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 42):
You have been to some of the same places i went to in Auckland, and you even took some of the same pictures too!

Nicholas knows well where to go with us tourists!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 42):
I seriously think that New Zealand really knows proper customer service! In many ways than one, i found it to outdo Singapore, Hong Kong, Bangkok and the bunch.

I had the same impression about New Zealand.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 42):
You've recently been getting the first aircraft of the fleet, but i think getting the newest one is also a nice suprise!

Yes, both of it is fine!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 42):
Something that is missing from my life! Never done that before! haha

I'm sure you'll surprise us with an awesome Pacific crossing TR one day...

Quoting ronerone (Reply 42):
Very healthy, and even the sausage does not seem too oily.

That's right, a welcome change from similar breakfasts.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 42):
I have not heard of something like this since a friend -when she was probably as old as that girl- helped serve drinks onboard a British Caledonian flight!

Nice!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 42):
See? It never fails!

Yes, just like on the way to DXB recently!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 42):
Looking forward to more new series soon!

Plenty of reports planned. Just booked a new trip - including two quite interesting and rare airlines. But I guess we can also expect some new Ronerone masterpieces in the near future, right?


PH

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: flykev
Posted 2011-04-14 17:06:14 and read 21312 times.

PlaneHunter, as ever that report was a joy to read. Thank-you for taking the time again to share such a detailed report with us on here and I particularly enjoyed the photos you included which illustrate the trip perfectly.
LH looks to offer a pretty decent service on a long haul flight - Did I spot metal cutlery in Y? That seems rare these days?

I eagerly await your next report.

Kev.

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: eastafspot
Posted 2011-04-15 07:07:02 and read 20909 times.

Hi,
I've really enjoyed reading this fantastic report, illustrated with clear and stunning pictures.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I got a total 21 new registrations on that day which wasn't bad

how many reg do you have on your log? that's must be impressive ...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

Pretty interesting features:

yes you are right, do you remember if you can display those infos during T/O and landing?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
which would last between five and six hours

oh dear, that's why i can not stand on a very long flight, moreover above ocean

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I started playing "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire":

funny game, a bit difficult though isn't it ?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
so I didn't have to wait very long at immigration

do you have to pay for the visa? it it a transit one?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Totally Thrilling: Scenic Flight On Lufthansa A380

After reading these 2 reports. i feel like flying LH now, as the onboard product looks correct and offers now a huge promotion EDI-FRA-JNB rtn in A380 for only £330.  Wow!

Many thanks

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: chepos
Posted 2011-04-15 08:57:35 and read 20850 times.

Another great installment, two oceans in your trip (just amazing) .Sights in NZ look just astonishing. Great trip report, can't wait to read another TR from you.

Regards,

Chepos

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-22 11:04:16 and read 19953 times.

Quoting flykev (Reply 44):
PlaneHunter, as ever that report was a joy to read. Thank-you for taking the time again to share such a detailed report with us on here and I particularly enjoyed the photos you included which illustrate the trip perfectly.

Hi Kev, many thanks for your nice comments!

Quoting flykev (Reply 44):
LH looks to offer a pretty decent service on a long haul flight - Did I spot metal cutlery in Y? That seems rare these days?

Yes, metal cutlery has indeed become rare.

Quoting flykev (Reply 44):
I eagerly await your next report.

Should be online tomorrow!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 45):
I've really enjoyed reading this fantastic report, illustrated with clear and stunning pictures.

Thanks a lot for your feedback, eastafspot!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 45):
how many reg do you have on your log? that's must be impressive ...

Thousands...

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 45):
yes you are right, do you remember if you can display those infos during T/O and landing?

No, you cannot select certain features, unfortunately.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 45):
funny game, a bit difficult though isn't it ?

  

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 45):
do you have to pay for the visa? it it a transit one?

It was a regular "Visa Waiver entry". There's just a fee of USD 14 which you have to pay every two years.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 45):
After reading these 2 reports. i feel like flying LH now, as the onboard product looks correct and offers now a huge promotion EDI-FRA-JNB rtn in A380 for only £330.

Sounds like a great idea! I also noticed some South Africa specials by SAA and other carriers recently...and couldn't resist to book a trip.

Quoting chepos (Reply 46):
Another great installment, two oceans in your trip (just amazing) .Sights in NZ look just astonishing. Great trip report, can't wait to read another TR from you.

Hi chepos, many thanks for your comments! The next report should be online tomorrow.


PH

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: bananaboy
Posted 2011-04-23 00:45:07 and read 19571 times.

A great read, so thanks for that. I was probably at AKL the same time that you were - I was hanging around after LAX-AKL and waiting for my flight to SYD.

NZ are a very good airline, especially in business class. Their economy product on the 747, 777-200 and even 767 look pretty decent. Seems like you had a good flight.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but told her that seating comfort and legroom in particular weren't as good as on Air New Zealand. She didn't look surprised about hearing that and said: "I don't think that will change anytime soon."

Kind of sad really, but seems like with NZ's new Y in the 777-300, she's not correct. Unfortunately, it's NZ taking a step back rather than LH taking one forward.

But anyway, thanks again. Particularly nice to see the photos of Auckland.

Mark

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: MHTripple7
Posted 2011-04-23 18:06:16 and read 19157 times.

Fantastic report! How were you feeling after all of that flying?

I am very impressed with NZ, they seem to offer a great product. I wish I had gotten the chance to fly with them on my trip to Australia and New Zealand.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Then I asked the agent whether he could already issue the second boarding pass, too. He wasn't able to get access to the Lufthansa seat map at first, but then he asked a colleague and looked something up in a manual. He remained in good mood all the time and seemed to be very motivated to sort this out. Finally, his machine printed the boarding pass (seat 55A) and he cheerfully said "Yessssss!" Before leaving, I asked him about the passenger load on the SFO flight. "It's half empty!", he said and wished me a pleasant journey. That's what I call a good start!

I'm glad to see that the agent was able to through-check you in on your LH flight. Despite alliance members advertising "seamless transfers" between alliance carriers, this does not always seem to be the case.

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: abrelosojos
Posted 2011-04-24 06:48:34 and read 18906 times.

Perfect report! I always like when two airlines are compared, and your analysis of NZ and LH seem right on the mark. NZ has been getting a lot of good reports (except their new product), and I am longing to try them out soon!

I am surprised by the generosity of the food offerings on both flights - I know LH has improved their catering and know a particular person who has shaken things up (for the better) at LH-HQ. Or perhaps, he just got tired of my whining - right JH  ?

Anyways, I had never been to the downstairs lavs on a 346. Is this unique to LH?

Weird how the FA said LH seats won't get better ... I go back and forth from whether this comes across as unprofessional?

Thanks for the report - a fitting end to your global odyssey.

Saludos,
A.

Topic: RE: Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-04-24 10:12:58 and read 18750 times.

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 48):
A great read, so thanks for that.
Quoting bananaboy (Reply 48):

But anyway, thanks again. Particularly nice to see the photos of Auckland.

Thanks for your feedback, Mark!

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 48):
I was probably at AKL the same time that you were - I was hanging around after LAX-AKL and waiting for my flight to SYD.

Interesting. Did you also fly NZ?

Quoting bananaboy (Reply 48):
NZ are a very good airline, especially in business class. Their economy product on the 747, 777-200 and even 767 look pretty decent. Seems like you had a good flight.

I'd like to try NZ's J class product one day.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 49):
Fantastic report! How were you feeling after all of that flying?

Thanks a lot, MHTripple7! Surprisingly, I felt quite good after that long journey - a lot better than after flying MUC-BKK-BNE.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 49):
I am very impressed with NZ, they seem to offer a great product. I wish I had gotten the chance to fly with them on my trip to Australia and New Zealand.

I found NZ even better back in 2008 when I flew HKG-LHR on a 744. It's too bad that all 777s will get a 3-4-3 layout.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 49):
Despite alliance members advertising "seamless transfers" between alliance carriers, this does not always seem to be the case.

  

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 50):
Perfect report! I always like when two airlines are compared, and your analysis of NZ and LH seem right on the mark.

Gracias, A.! Nice to hear from you.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 50):
NZ has been getting a lot of good reports (except their new product), and I am longing to try them out soon!

I guess we won't have to wait very long until we read an NZ report from you!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 50):
I am surprised by the generosity of the food offerings on both flights - I know LH has improved their catering and know a particular person who has shaken things up (for the better) at LH-HQ.

Good to hear!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 50):
Or perhaps, he just got tired of my whining - right JH ?

If that's the case - well done!  

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 50):
Anyways, I had never been to the downstairs lavs on a 346. Is this unique to LH?

Airtours once introduced the same on its A330-200s, but I don't know whether Thomas Cook has kept that layout.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 50):
Weird how the FA said LH seats won't get better ... I go back and forth from whether this comes across as unprofessional?

I wouldn't be so harsh. I'd say she was being honest - and realistic. We all know that airlines won't give us more space again in Y class due to a number of reasons.


PH


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