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Topic: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: SloAir
Posted 2010-07-05 01:38:49 and read 19385 times.

When Air France announced that some flights from Paris to London are going to be operated by the A380 I tought it was a great opportunity to fly on the 'big bus' and book flights at the end of June.

I decided I will spend one night in Paris and one night in London and booked rooms in Sheraton CDG and Reainassance LHR. Then it was time to find flights from Ljubljana to Paris. At the end I decided I will fly LJU-CDG with Adria Airways on the outbound leg and CDG-FRA-LJU with Lufthansa and Adria on my return.

The flight from Ljubljana to Paris was originally planned to be done with a CRJ9, but it got upgraded to a A320, because 25th of June is the independence day in Slovenia and also the end of school so there were a lot of tourists making a weekend trip to Paris.

Crowded check-in area at LJU. I have checked-in online the day before and was able to use the business class check-in counter to drop-off my bag, where the line was a little bit shorter.



Departures and arrivals board. There were two flights with football fans from South Africa arriving this morning. One was JP A319 from Port Elizabeth and the other one was an AEY B767. Our football team, would arrive the next day at 8:20 from Frankfurt. More than 2.000 people waited for them at the airport and 10.000 more in the city center two hours later.



The line for security.



S5-AAA will take me to CDG today. It is the only A320 left in JP fleet.



Beautiful new part of the terminal at LJU. It is very bright and modern.



S5-AAO going to London Gatwick. There were two Adria flights going to LGW that morning, one at 7.25 and one at 7.50. As I said, lots of tourists.



S5-AAR arriving after a looong journey from South Africa (I think they stopped in Congo and Libya), meanwhile S5-AAJ CRJ200 is boarding passengers for its flight to Amsterdam.



Our crew today.



The pilot finishing his pre-flight walk around.



Boarding seems a bit chaotic but it wasn't that bad.



LJU-CDG
JP322
Airbus 320 Adria Airways

Another view of S5-AAR, the second A319 in Adria fleet. It was delivered in May, the first one S5-AAP was delivered in April 2010.



Taxiing to runway 13.



Shortly after takeoff the no-smoking sign went off(?)



The cockpit doors were also opened.



A sandwich was given to all economy passengers, there were no choices just this cheese sandwich. It was not that bad.



My first flight ever was the same one as today – LJU-CDG on Adria A320 (I was around 8 years old so I do not remember the registration . Back then you used to receive a big tray filled with food. Now it is just a sandwich. But it is better than nothing 

This translation is either wrong or I don't get it (Živite=Live)



On approach to CDG.



Parked at T1.



It was another classic Adria flight. They do a good job but their flights are not so cheap. I disembarked and went to the baggage claim area of Terminal 1. Then a quick ride with CDGVAL to terminal 2 and then with RER B to Paris, where I spend the day. I have not been to Paris in more than 8 years so it was nice to see the city again.



View from my hotel room at Sheraton CGD.



Next morning it was time for my first A380 flight. I have checked in online and went to the baggage drop-off area. The queue was not that long and it moved fast so I was finished in no time. I went through passport control without waiting in line and was soon on board the train to gate E61, from where my flight would depart. Security was quick and I was at the gate with plenty of time to spare. I find terminal 2E at CDG a very nice place, modern, bright, huge windows,lot of computers with internet access, Playstation 3, nice toilets,… a very nice place.

And of course the reason for my trip was parked here. Air France Airbus 380-800 F-HPJC.



Did some spotting at the end of the terminal. Air France B744 taxiing.



Another AF 747 has just landed.



Gate area just before boarding started. The whole boarding process was well organized in my opinion, it is not easy to control more than 500 people, who try to board the plane. But AF manage to do it well. There was a separate line for upper deck economy and I joined that queue.



CDG-LHR
AF1980
Airbus 380-800 Air France



AF B777-300ER going to LAX.



We left the gate about 15 minutes late and started our taxi to runway 9R. When we arrived to the runway we stopped and waited there for 15 minutes. After that the pilot came on the PA and informed us that we will have to wait here for another 10 minutes because of the ATC. We waited for another 15-20 minutes and the captain came on the PA with another announcement. We have been given ATC clearance, but our brakes were too hot so we would have to wait for another 10 minutes. We finally left CDG at 11:25, by that time we were already supposed to land at LHR.



Nice storage area on the upper deck. There was an announcement made that there were 516 passengers on this flight.



Unfortunately we did not land from the east, so we did not get the great view of London, which I was really looking forward to.



We landed on runway 9R at LHR with a one hour delay. Quick taxi to terminal 4 and our flight was finished. I went to check out terminal 5 after we landed and from there to the Heathrow Reainasannce hotel, where I spent the night.

Aeroflot 767 and a street lamp 

Room with a view 

Back at terminal 4 I was greeted with this sign at check-in. As my onward connection was not in the system I had to see the check-in supervisor. She then entered details form my flights from CDG to FRA and LJU and my bag was checked all the was through to Ljubljana.



Continental 777 going to IAH.



AF1980 landed on-time today.



LHR-CDG
AF1981
Airbus 380-800 Air France



I was not the only one taking pictures 

I liked the chat feature. It would be better if the passengers would talk in English 

The moving map was obviously hiding somewhere, because the IFE was not able to find it.



Back at CDG.



Our crew wished us a very nice day. It was a nice touch.



I made my way off the plane and back to terminal 1, from where my Lufthansa flight to Frankfurt would depart.



While waiting in the line for security a huge roar was heard from the other side. The world cup football game between England and Germany started at 16:00 and Germany probably scored, since there were multiple Lufthansa flights departing from that area (FRA, MUC, DUS) 

When I was finished with the slow security process I went to the other side and found out that Germany has indeed scored.

Our plane arriving from Frankfurt in the background. Watching planes and football at the same time – just amazing  

There was an announcement made, first in French and then in German. All the people in the gate area watching the game started applauding. The announcement was then done in English – apparently due to ATC restrictions the flight to Dusseldorf was going to have a 20 minute delay. Nobody seemed to mind that as it meant they will be able to watch the game until the end 

CDG-FRA
LH4225
Boeing 737-300 Lufthansa



Taxi was quick and we were soon in the air for this 40 minutes flight.



Colorful lineup at FRA T2 (sorry for the bad picture)



Making my way to the B gates. Frankfurt is my favorite airport in Europe and I always like transfers here. This was my third time in Frankfurt this year.



Boarding started a bit late for my last flight today.

FRA-LJU
JP125
CRJ900 Adria Airways



It was S5-AAK today.



This time it was a choice between a cheese or meat sandwich.



My window was dirty so I do not have a lot of good pictures and it was getting dark.



We landed with only a few minutes of delay. Baggage reclaim area:



Back home.



I had a great time with Air France. The made a good impression and I might considerer flying long-haul with AF in the future, although I normally fly with Star Alliance (because Adria is a member and they have the best connections via MUC,FRA,ZRH and VIE).

Thank you AF for this opportunity to fly the A380 for 80 Euros 

B.

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: luxair747SP
Posted 2010-07-05 02:21:46 and read 19289 times.

Awesome TR

I ve been flying the A380 on this route as well and it was a pleasure.
Nice to see the Adria Airways, I have not heard many things before of them but it looks like an airline I want to try some time.

Johannes

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2010-07-05 05:26:06 and read 18832 times.

Nice report! thoroughly enjoyed it.

I also had the chance to fly on the A380 to LHR and back, I really enjoyed it and was amazed by the size and quietness of the aircraft.

I flew on the Inaugural CDG-LHR-CDG on June 12th on F-HPJB

Regarding Adria, it is definitely an airline I want to try since I really really want to visti LJU, however prices and the schedules ex--BCN makes it impossible to go for a weekend. But I shall continue searching! 

MIAspotter.

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: sloguide
Posted 2010-07-05 13:25:08 and read 18054 times.

Great trip report Sloair.

Nice to read about trips from my home airport.

I was almost on this Paris flight from Lju.

How much did u pay for whole trip?

Regards,
S

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: AlexEU
Posted 2010-07-06 04:21:17 and read 17580 times.

Hi,

Very nice trip report and pictures!! Though I cant believe they used A319 all the way to Port Elizabeth!

Regards, Alex

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: SloAir
Posted 2010-07-07 04:26:03 and read 16972 times.

MIAspotter I know, the schedules between BCN and LJU are not that great, I am going to BCN for a weekend (Thur-Sun)in August and I will be flying LJU-MUC-BCN-LJU with Adria and Lufthansa.

Sloguide, I travelled in a group of three, so we divided the cost of hotel and used some miles for the LJU-CDG-FRA-LJU flights. The CDG-LHR flight was 82 euros I think and the room at LHR was around 50 pounds per person. I'm not sure about the CDG hotel.

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: trintocan
Posted 2010-07-07 05:04:19 and read 16935 times.

Thanks SloAir, this is a great report. You must have enjoyed the A380 on that short sector. It must have given you an even greater thrill to land at LHR and see the two other A380s (SQ and VH) there!

Quoting SloAir (Thread starter):
There were two flights with football fans from South Africa arriving this morning. One was JP A319 from Port Elizabeth and the other one was an AEY B767.

Mombasa is in Kenya, not South Africa. It is possible though that the plane started its journey in South Africa and stopped there. Mombasa is a popular tourist destination in its own right.

LJU airport looks fabulous too.

Again, very well done.

TrinToCan.

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: SloAir
Posted 2010-07-07 06:11:55 and read 16877 times.

A380 is a great plane, the first time I saw it in real life was an Emirates aircraft in Sydney last year and I wanted to try it and this was a great opportunity.

I know that Mombasa is not in South Africa, but I think that the plane started it's flight in Port Elizabeth and maybe they stopped in Kenya. There are normaly not any charters to Africa (except tourist destinations like Egypt, Tunisia,...) from LJU and there was an AEY flight to Port Elizabeth two days before the match so I am guessing it was the same aircraft.

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: reifel
Posted 2010-07-07 14:20:43 and read 16572 times.

Great report. I'm looking very forward to my A380 flight in August as well.
I found very interesting the flight from JP from Port Elizabeth to Ljubljana. I guess this was to bring the Slovenian Football Team back? I hope they refurbished the A320 a little, because spending 10+ hours plus 2 stops in a regular A320 is a pain...

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: musapapaya
Posted 2010-07-07 14:26:36 and read 16561 times.

Thanks for this nice report, I am waiting to get onto one of these A380s myself.

Quoting SloAir (Thread starter):
We waited for another 15-20 minutes and the captain came on the PA with another announcement. We have been given ATC clearance, but our brakes were too hot so we would have to wait for another 10 minutes. We finally left CDG at 11:25, by that time we were already supposed to land at LHR.

I do not understand why the brakes will still be hot after standing on the taxiway waiting for ATC for 15 minutes? lol!

regards
musapapaya

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: lychemsa
Posted 2010-07-07 20:30:55 and read 16408 times.

AF's Y longhaul service is among the best compared to US and European airlines in my opinion.

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: SloAir
Posted 2010-07-08 12:14:02 and read 16172 times.

Quoting reifel (Reply 8):

The flight was done with an A319, which is brand new (delivered to Adria in May 2010), so it was probably more berable. But it is still a very long flight in a narrow body aircraft.

I read on another forum that this flight was for those, who won a trip to South Africa for the Slovenia:England game in various prize competitions. And probably for some other tourists. Our football team flew JNB-FRA nonstop (I think with LH). They arrived to LJU at 8:20 the next day after my departure.

I have also read that the runway at Port Elizabeth airport is too short for takeoff with enough fuel on board all the way to Ljubljana for a 767. That is why the AEY flight stopped in Mombasa  

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-06-05 14:14:42 and read 12546 times.

Hi Blaž,

I somehow missed this interesting report! Good to see you also tested AF's A380 on these short hops. My experience wasn't as smooth as yours:
Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100 (by PlaneHunter Dec 25 2010 in Trip Reports)

Quoting SloAir (Thread starter):
It is the only A320 left in JP fleet.

JP got rid of all A320s and then added two used frames in April and May. Quite odd, isn't it?

Quoting SloAir (Thread starter):
I liked the chat feature. It would be better if the passengers would talk in English

Interesting, I hadn't noticed that feature on AF's A380!


PH

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: SloAir
Posted 2011-06-05 14:51:39 and read 12469 times.

Hi PH,

thank you for your feedback on my very first trip report 
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
My experience wasn't as smooth as yours:

I remember reading your report when I was somewhere abroad, I'm glad everything worked out at the end. I was lucky that I did not have any connecting flights after my CDG-LHR flight, so the delay was not a problem, it just gave me some more time on the A380, which was not a bad thing 
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
JP got rid of all A320s and then added two used frames in April and May. Quite odd, isn't it?


They need the extra capacity for the summer timetable I guess. They have also started a lot of new routes from Priština. One of the new A320, S5-AAT, ex TAP CS-TNP, CN191, that is wearing a nice looking retro scheme, was supposed to be the fifth A320 delivered to JP in 1991, but that did not happened due to the 10 day war for independence when Slovenia left the former Yugoslavia.


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Blaž

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-06-05 14:57:42 and read 12458 times.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 13):
They need the extra capacity for the summer timetable I guess.

Hopefully the planes will stay for a while.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 13):
One of the new A320, S5-AAT, ex TAP CS-TNP, CN191, that is wearing a nice looking retro scheme, was supposed to be the fifth A320 delivered to JP in 1991, but that did not happened due to the 10 day war for independence when Slovenia left the former Yugoslavia.

Amazing that the plane finally found its way to JP after such a long time!


PH

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: akhmad
Posted 2011-06-06 13:19:17 and read 11936 times.

Hi Blaž,

I have to admit that I too missed this exciting report of yours. What a great introduction here and very enjoyable to read.

It brings back the nice memory of my own trip to Paris last year. Though not everything was equally nice. You were lucky to get on board of AF's whale jet. My trip ended up in an A321   My first on that type, but still.

Quoting SloAir (Thread starter):
The line for security.

Nice interior above.

Quoting SloAir (Thread starter):
I have not been to Paris in more than 8 years

I had never been in Paris before.

Quoting SloAir (Thread starter):
from there to the Heathrow Reainasannce hotel, where I spent the night.

A spotter's hotel, isn't it?

Quoting SloAir (Thread starter):
I was not the only one taking pictures

With him many others along the airport area.

Quoting SloAir (Thread starter):
It would be better if the passengers would talk in English

Or have a translator installed in the chat system.

Quoting SloAir (Thread starter):
Frankfurt is my favorite airport in Europe and I always like transfers here. This was my third time in Frankfurt this year.

It will be great to meet you there.


Thank you for sharing.

Cheers,
Suryo

[Edited 2011-06-06 14:02:16]

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: SloAir
Posted 2011-06-06 14:01:45 and read 11852 times.

Hi Suryo,

thank you for your comment, I appreciate the feedback.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
My trip ended up in an A321   My first on that type, but still.

It must have been very disappointing to miss out on the A380, but I am sure you will have other chances - maybe EK A380?  

Blaž

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: akhmad
Posted 2011-06-06 14:03:18 and read 11845 times.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 16):
maybe EK A380?  

Who knows?   

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: EL-AL
Posted 2011-06-17 19:57:00 and read 10514 times.

Hey SloAir,

Very nice report - can't believe I missed it till now.

I am still not very impressed from the A380, it looks like more of the same, just bigger.

Your window view photos are just beautiful.

Thank you for shearing,
Jonathan

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: Coal
Posted 2011-06-17 21:23:56 and read 10443 times.

Great TR and fantastic pics from the hotel in LHR.

Cheers
Coal

Topic: RE: LJU-CDG-LHR-CDG-FRA-LJU On JP, AF(A380) And LH
Username: SloAir
Posted 2011-06-20 06:13:56 and read 10074 times.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 18):
Very nice report - can't believe I missed it till now.

Hi Jonathan, thank you for your comment, I appreciate your feedback. The A380 is not the most beautiful aircraft, but it is a pleasure to fly with.

Quoting Coal (Reply 19):
Great TR and fantastic pics from the hotel in LHR.

Thank you Coal, I am happy that you liked it.

Blaž


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