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Topic: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2011-07-21 11:18:08 and read 18823 times.

Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 and E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)

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This is the final instalment covering my recent trip to China and Japan, and will cover my return flight to London City on the Lufthansa A380 via Frankfurt.

Today’s flights:
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The other four parts can be found here:
Part 1, Lufthansa London-Munich-Frankfurt-Nanjing, Economy Class A321 and A343
Part 2, Cathay Pacific Shanghai to Tokyo via Hong Kong, Business Class A330 and B747-400
Part 3, ANA Boeing B767 Tokyo to Shanghai, & Air China Airbus A340 Shanghai to Beijing, Business Class
Part 4: Chinese domestics, inc. Joy Air Xi’an MA60, Tianjin Airlines ERJ, and China Express Airways CRJ

After a late night arrival at the Holiday Inn in Datong, I spent two days seeing the sights of this dust-bowl mining town. On the first day, I took a local bus (to the horror of the concierge at the hotel) to the Hanging Monastery.
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On the second day, I went out to Datong’s main attraction, the Yungang Caves. Carved on and off since the 5th century, these are some of the best examples of Buddhist Art in the world. They were probably as good as the Mogao Caves I saw in Dunhuang, although as there is lighting inside the caves, and photography is tolerated, the visit was more enjoyable.
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The revenge of the Chinese tour group!
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Datong City Views
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Whilst I enjoyed my trip to the Yungang Caves, I shouldn’t have stayed so long in Datong (48 hours!). as it was, I decided to take a sleeper train to Beijing, arriving in Beijing around 24 hours before my flight home. I decided to entrust the ticket purchase to the hotels’ front desk. I paid up front, and they said they should have the ticket the same evening (this was the first day). When I didn’t arrive that evening, I asked at the front desk the next morning. I was told it was “on it’s way”. Not a good sign. At lunchtime I asked again. Same response. After my trip to the caves, I came back, slightly worried as the train for this evening (albeit at 2am, arriving in Beijing around 9am). I was told, it had just been purchased, and would be at the hotel soon. I went off, and had the hotel buffet. I went back to the front desk, and was told it was one it’s way still. A few minutes later, the manager came over and told me “there was a little problem”. The train was either sold out, or didn’t exist, so everyone (as I had imagined) was lying to me for the last day. I was told that there was an earlier train leaving around 11pm, which arrived into Beijing at 5am that I could get a sleeper on. Not having many options left, I accepted. Arriving at 5am was far from ideal. However, as I was staying in another Holiday Inn in Beijing, I asked them to call and request an early check in (which they did).

I was given a complimentary cup of tea once my ticket arrived, and I waited for the train
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Datong Station
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I went to the ticket office before going through ‘security’ at the station, where I found that this train was sold out for days in all classes – how they managed to ruffle up a ticket with an hours notice is beyond me. I was hoping it wasn’t a fake.

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Luckily, the ticket wasn’t a fake, and I made it unscathed to Beijing West Station bright and early the next morning. A few photos from the taxi ride to my hotel, via Tiananmen Square – another beautiful morning in Beijing.
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With some relief, I climbed into bed at the hotel around 0550, and slept for a few hours


I spent a very pleasant day in Beijing, catching up with some old friends for lunch, doing some retail therapy in Sanlitun, then going to a friend of a friends birthday party in Wudaokou. I managed to get back to my hotel around midnight this time, so I didn’t have too rough a morning the next day.

After a tasty complimentary breakfast at the hotel, I grabbed a cab to take me to the airport. We passed the Lufthansa Centre on the way (home to quite a few airline office, the Kempinski Hotel, and a mall).
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Approaching the terminal. I arrived just over an hour before the flight.
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Terminal 3
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When I originally booked these flights, I went online to reserve specific seats. The front section of the A380 was all blocked out. I gave LH a call, and was told that these were only for Star Gold, until online check in, whereupon anyone could get them. I dutifully waited until T-24, where the seats were still unavailable (but check in was open). I waited another hour (T-23) when check in should officially open, and the seats are still unavailable. I give LH reservations a call, who say that the flight is under airport control. I call the airport, who say that as LH Silver I can get those seats through online check in (which I can’t). The lady then says that they have no control between T-24 and departure….. what? So no one has control in the last 24 hours? Confusing, and annoying. I ended up sticking with my original seat, and not checking in online.

I headed off to find the check in desks to get my boarding pass and tags my bags. As I’m a LH Silver, I could use the Business Class desks. The lady there wasn’t very friendly. I asked if it was possible to upgrade to business, but was told that my fare class was too low to be upgraded – shame. My boarding pass showed No. #473, my highest ever sequence number. With a maximum 526 passengers on the flight, it seemed the load was pretty good. I didn’t actually see any free seats in Y, but maybe upstairs there were some empty seats.

FIDS
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I had my boarding pass checked, then was sent down to the terminal transit train (all international flights leave from the far satellite). I have flown in and out of T3 many times, but never outbound internationally. Security and passport control was carried out fairly quickly at the international satellite.
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There wasn’t a lot to do or see in the terminal, so I just walked around a bit. Bizarrely, there were around 5 stores of Cathay House, selling a range of useless items. The terminal could really do with a slightly wider range of shops.
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FIDS in the satellite


Views from the terminal. The EY aircraft was heading on to Nagoya – I didn’t know they routed AUH-PEK-NGO.
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Food options
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As I was walking down this corridor, a tray of food was pushed out from that door. Unfortunately, the trolley clipped the door frame sending a bowl of noodles to the floor. Hope it didn’t come out of her wages, or else she’d probably end up owing money for that day.
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I was quite glad to see ‘Zurich’ at the gate, LH’s second newest A380 having been delivered just under three months earlier.
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June 2011
Beijing (PEK) – Frankfurt (FRA)
Lufthansa LH
Scheduled: 1030-1440 (10h10m)
Actual: 1048-1410 (9h22m)
Airbus A380-800 D-AIMF



When I finally arrived at the gate, boarding was just commencing. I joined the Business class line, and was thorough in a few minutes. This lady with the camcorder was so excited she went the wrong way


Boarding
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I was one of the first passengers to make it to the rear section of the Beast, so managed to get a few photos.
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As I passed the penultimate galley, I asked if they had any small bottles of water onboard. I was told that there weren’t, but she would get me a glass of water.


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IFE
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The neighbouring flight to London. I swear that I saw that same AY aircraft in HKG, NRT and PEK.
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Safety Info


Boarding took quite a while, and the rear section was filling up very slowly. I was hoping to have a bit of space top spread out in. However, a group of Chinese school kids (around 16 years old, all in awful Chinese tracksuit uniforms) boarded, filling in all the empty seats in the rear section. Grrrr. Thankfully, the kids were great. They were quiet, and accommodating. I’m surprised that the group organiser (or LH) hadn’t arranged for group seating. It seemed very strange that they were randomly seated throughout the cabin. I had a boy and a girl sat in the middle and aisle. I chatted with them a bit during the flight. They were enroute to Sweden (ARN) for 2 weeks. I was unable to establish (maybe they weren’t sure either) what exactly they would be doing there. They didn’t speak any Swedish! There was one FA who was very good at getting them all seated (I don’t think many had done a lot of flying before), and chatting to them. I don’t think many other European FAs would spend time chatting to Chinese teenagers!

Tail mounted camera
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We were welcomed aboard in German, English and Chinese. Amusingly, the purser informed everyone that we were flying on a “new A380, named after Zurich, the capital….er….um….city of Switzerland”. He didn’t correct himself!

Passing the terminal


This guy ran down the steps of that B737, and started snapping away – I think the serendipitous timing made his day!
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Onto the active
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With a fair amount of effort, we took off into a smoggy Beijing sky
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About half an hour after departure, drinks and snacks were served, and menus were handed out. I was very happy to see (given that I was in row 91 of 94), that service started from both the very front, and very back, so I also got a choice of meals, and reasonably fast service.
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Views whilst waiting for lunch
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Hot towels were handed out
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Lunch is served. I went with the stir fried chicken and black bean sauce – no complaints.
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Cabin Views
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Outside
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A couple of hours after lunch, I had a G&T
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Half way through the flight, there was a sandwich and drinks service
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Passengers milling around mid-flights
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A couple of rows ahead, there was a group of Chinese pax playing cards – they were there for hours, leaning on the seats in front and behind – I would have got rather annoyed if I was sitting closer.
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Clouds and wing
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Notice all the identical tracksuits of the school group
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The IFE was ok, although the moving map wasn’t working, which was very annoying. During the flight, I watched The Heist, The Adjustment Bureau, Just go for it, a documentary about Russia, and a very interesting film about the introduction of football in Germany (The Dream of the Beautiful Game), which I would highly recommend. Being a Brit (who admittedly isn’t a football fan), on a flight to Germany, it was a good film to watch.
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As is becoming a bit of a custom, I filled in a comments form, mentioning both the faulty moving map, and the excellent service from the FA mentioned earlier (during the flight, she’d been constantly cheerful, and quick with topping up my G&Ts!). About half an hour after I handed it in, the aforementioned FA came around, thanking me for my comments, and asked if the map was working again or not. It hadn’t, but I could deal with it – I was more just letting them know it wasn’t working. About two weeks after the flight, I was sent this email – excellent customer service:

“Thank you for your online feedback. We apologise for the delay in our response.

We would like to thank you for taking the time to write your kind words about the friendliness and dedication of a member of our cabin crew, from whom you received such hospitable service onboard your Lufthansa flight LH721 from Beijing to Frankfurt. We have forwarded your comments to Ms. XXX and her supervisor, who were all naturally very pleased to hear of your satisfaction.

Friendliness and dedication to customer service are very important to Lufthansa and we are delighted to see that our efforts in this regard were borne out in this case. Such feedback is a great motivation to us all and helps maintain the high standard of service we have set ourselves.

It is also with great regret we learned of your dissatisfaction with the in-flight entertainment system onboard. We regard the provision of these services as essential elements of our flights and completely understand your frustration when this amenity was unavailable onboard your flight. Please accept our sincere apologies for any inconvenience this has caused.

We are aware that our customers expect their ground and in-flight experience to be as seamless and comfortable as possible. We make every effort to maintain or improve the high standard of service we offer our valued passengers, and when we fail to meet our customer’s expectations we feel it important to acknowledge this.

Whilst we can not atone for your experiences, as you are a Frequent Traveller we are pleased to credit your Miles & More account with 3000 miles which we hope you will accept as a token of our goodwill.

We look forward to welcoming you onboard again, and we assure you that we will do everything we can to make sure you continue to enjoy flying with Lufthansa. “

The 3000 miles were indeed credited. Excellent!

Around two hours before arrival into Frankfurt, a second meal was served. It wasn’t as good as the first.
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Flying over Poland
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I quite fancided winning the trolley, but nothing caught my eye in the duty free magazine
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Approaching FRA
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Even excluding the excitable school kids, there were a lot of people taking photos on board. I didn’t feel at all out of place!
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Approach to FRA was a good 40 mins early.
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Landing was pretty heavy, with quite a few screams. The pilot came on to welcome us to FRA, saying “sorry for the rough landing. This aircraft can be landed smoothly!”. There was also a announcement in Chinese only reminding everyone to keep their seatbelts fastened.

As a result of landing 30 minutes early, our gate wasn’t ready, or more accurately, there was something in the way. We ended up sitting on the taxiway for 40 minutes, before we could finally taxi into position.
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Posted 2011-07-21 11:20:12 and read 18806 times.

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It was only as we disembarked, and I pulled up the arm rest that I noticed this hidden underneath – I wonder if anyone else knows of their existence!?


Disembarkation
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There were some great views from the terminal
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Heading towards arrivals
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I had a three-odd hour connection in FRA before my flight to London City. I had read about the ‘Tower Lounge’ in area A, which I thought would be nice to try out. I got a bit lost trying to find the A area, and ended up going out of the arrivals area, and then back into departures. FRA is enormous!
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I asked a guy at one of the check in desks about access to the Tower Lounge, and he said that I just needed to follow the signs to gates A50+ (?). After passing security, I got to the A gate area, where I was told that the Tower Lounge was only available for USA bound passengers. Grrr, why didn’t the check in guy know this? Anyway, I about turned, and headed over towards the B non-Schengen area, where my LCY flight out be departing from. By the time I got to the lounge, I must have been walking for a good 45 minutes. Phew.
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I think that photo sums up the wonders of international mobility quite well!


FIDS
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The Privatair flight to Khartoum
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The sleek lines of the B744, headed for Tehran – I’m surprised that they managed to fill this. The departure lounge was packed
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The lounge was pretty full
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The range of food and drink on offer
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After all my walking around the airport, I was looking forward to a shower. I asked the attendant, but she said I would have to wait an hour for a shower. I said that I couldn’t wait that long, so she whispered that I could skip the queue if I didn’t tell anyone else in the queue! Thanks!! I was given is beeper.


I started walking down to the bus gate half an hour before the flight. There was a CA flight to PVG boarding
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I noticed ‘Zurich’ heading back off to the runway.
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I took a seat at the back of the bus – after waiting a bit for the bus to fill up, we headed off to our E jet.
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June 2011
Frankfurt (FRA) - London City (LHR)
Lufthansa LH 936
Scheduled: 1815-1840 (1h25m)
Actual: 1848-1854 (1h06m)
Embraer 190 D-AECA



Today’s flight was fairly lightly loaded, probably about 45%.
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Taxi out of the active
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The snack this afternoon was a weird potato ham salad thing. Tasted ok. Whilst this was being handed out, the pilot announced some rather rough turbulence, and asked the FA to be seated.
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After a few minutes, the turbulence settled down a bit, and the FAs continued with the drinks service. I wasn’t much in the mood for more alcohol, so just had some water.
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Not long after I got my drinks, the pilot made another announcement instructing everyone to sit down immediately. For the next twenty minutes or so, we went through probably the worst turbulence I’ve ever experienced. It was really white knuckle stuff. Scary. Thankfully, after a while it smoothed out.
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It turns out there was an enormous storm system passing over Europe, pushing some lovely summer weather Eastwards, leaving the UK in a cold, wet mess.
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We touched down in LCY a few minutes late at five to seven. It was nice to see Blue Islands at LCY.
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I was finally back in the UK. Immigration took quite a while (for LCY) for the baggage to be delivered. I think it took around 20 minutes from touchdown to the DLR – shockingly long for LCY!

Once again, I was very pleased with LH longhual. The A380 cabin is very nice, and catering pretty good. It’s lovely that they still have proper menus in economy. The seating issue needs to be sorted. I was pretty annoyed that I was unable to get a seat in the forward economy section, despite all my efforts.

Thanks for reading about my trip to China and Japan, I’m looking forward to seeing your comments. I’m off to Milan next week (out on bmi, back on BA), so hopefully will post a TR on that soonish.

If you’re interested in reading any of my other reports, you can find them here:

Part 1, Lufthansa London-Munich-Frankfurt-Nanjing, Economy Class A321 and A343
Part 2, Cathay Pacific Shanghai to Tokyo via Hong Kong, Business Class A330 and B747-400
Part 3, ANA Boeing B767 Tokyo to Shanghai, & Air China Airbus A340 Shanghai to Beijing, Business Class
Part 4: Chinese domestics, inc. Joy Air Xi’an MA60, Tianjin Airlines ERJ, and China Express Airways CRJ
5 Countries, 5 Flights, 5 Days, with Ryanair (FR)
bmiFriday: Welcome to Sunny Norway, London to Bergen, A319)
Royal Jordanian, London to Aqaba via Amman. A330 and A320
Royal Jordanian, Amman to London, A330
London City to Antwerp with Cityjet and the Fokker 50
Croatian Airlines, LHR-ZAG,PUY-ZAD-ZAG-LHR, A319 and Dash 8
British Airways, Iberia & Binter to Tenerife and Gran Canaria, LHR-MAD-TFN-LPA-MAD-LHR, A320,ATR, A321
British Airways, London To Amsterdam, LGW-AMS-LHR, B737 & A321
British Airways up to a snowy Glasgow, with a change of flights and delay, LHR-GLA-LCY A321 and E90
Turkish Airlines Business Class from London to Istanbul. From Terrible To Fantastic
Turkish Airlines Business Class from Istanbul to Batumi (Georgia). Not again!
bmi Business Class, Tbilisi to London via Azerbaijan
Tallinn to London, with Estonian Air and BA, via ARN
Cuba! BA/IB London-Madrid-Havana, Business Class
Aerocarribean, Baracoa to Havana
Asia Trip, Pt 1: Qatar Airways Business Class (LHR-DOH-ICN)
Asia Trip, Pt 2: China Southern and Hainan Airlines (A321/A346)
Asia Trip, Pt 3: Malaysia Airlines, Hong Kong to Penang
Asia Trip, Pt 4: Qatar Airways Economy (HKG-DOH-LHR)
A weekend in Transylvania with Blue Air (LTN-SBZ)
Helsinki for the weekend on BA and KF
Easter in Ukraine with Austrian
UAE and Oman with BA and Air Arabia. Y & Y+
HKG-LHR-HKG Air New Zealand, Premium Economy and Economy
US Airways LGW-DCA-MSP-LGA-LGW
London Heathrow - Zurich - Venice on Swiss Business for the weekend
Chasing the Eclipse on China Eastern
Taiwan: EVA Air (HKG-TPE rtn), UNI Airways (TSA-HCN), Daily Air (TTT-KYD rtn)
UA HKG-SIN-HKG Y Class, SQ KUL-SIN C Class
Bangkok to Beijing, Egyptair Business Class
Air China Beijing to Harbin, B777 Economy outbound, A330 First Class return
Tiger Airways, Singapore to Darwin return
A selection of Chinese Domestics; China Eastern, Air China and Shenzhen Airlines
Hong Kong to London on Singapore Airlines (744/380/77W)
Qatar Airways Beijing-Doha-London Heathrow (A330/A340)
Air China First Class. Beijing-Guilin via Xi’an
Round Asia Trip. URC-HTN,OSS-FRU,ALA-URC-LHW-KMG-JHG-KMG-SYX,HAK-NKG-PEK-NRT-LHR, Hainan Airlines, China Eastern, China Southern, Lucky Air, ANA, Economy and Business Class.
SAS and Lufthansa Business Class, LHR-OSL-FRA-FRA, B73G and B744

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-21 11:45:09 and read 18692 times.

Hi Gabriel,

nice report about your LH A380 experience, I had been waiting for this one.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):

I was quite glad to see ‘Zurich’ at the gate, LH’s second newest A380 having been delivered just under three months earlier.

Good to see D-AIMF again, it flew me from JNB to FRA in mid-May. What seat number did you have? I had 91K.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Amusingly, the purser informed everyone that we were flying on a “new A380, named after Zurich, the capital….er….um….city of Switzerland”. He didn’t correct himself!

Ouch!!!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
About half an hour after departure, drinks and snacks were served, and menus were handed out.

I cannot believe you got a menu card - I didn't get any on my SFO-MUC flight in October and the JNB-FRA flight in May. This is very odd!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The IFE was ok, although the moving map wasn’t working, which was very annoying.

That's too bad, the NiceView airshow is great.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The 3000 miles were indeed credited. Excellent!

Alright, nice gesture.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The snack this afternoon was a weird potato ham salad thing. Tasted ok.

Interesting, the new catering concept doesn't cease to surprise me. What you got was meat loaf with potato salad, that's very popular in Germany, especially in Bavaria.


PH

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: EL-AL
Posted 2011-07-21 12:14:11 and read 18573 times.

Hello,

Thank you very much for this report! I was waiting for an LH A380 YCL report for a while. Looks like you had a nice flight - I always prefer long haul day flight then night flight.


Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Safety Info

Would you mind taking a photo of the other side?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The IFE was ok, although the moving map wasn’t working, which was very annoying

In a 3 months old airplane? strange.

Thank you for shearing - great photos!

Jonathan

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2011-07-21 12:42:07 and read 18454 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):

nice report about your LH A380 experience,

Thanks!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):

Good to see D-AIMF again, it flew me from JNB to FRA in mid-May. What seat number did you have? I had 91K.

What are the chances?!? 91K as well!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
I cannot believe you got a menu card - I didn't get any on my SFO-MUC flight in October and the JNB-FRA flight in May. This is very odd!

I also got a menu on the FRA-NKG flight. Maybe they are onyl on the China route to help with language issues.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
Interesting, the new catering concept doesn't cease to surprise me. What you got was meat loaf with potato salad, that's very popular in Germany, especially in Bavaria.

Do Frankfurters like this food?

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 3):
Looks like you had a nice flight - I always prefer long haul day flight then night flight.

Me too, love a long daytime flight.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 3):

Would you mind taking a photo of the other side?

I just happen to have taken one!
Quoting EL-AL (Reply 3):

Thank you for shearing - great photos!

Thanks!

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: SloAir
Posted 2011-07-21 12:56:38 and read 18389 times.

Hi Gabriel,

superb finish to your series with the flight on LH A380. You visited some interesting places and thanks for sharing the pictures with us.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Thankfully, the kids were great. They were quiet, and accommodating. I’m surprised that the group organiser (or LH) hadn’t arranged for group seating

I once took a group of kids to Brazil and we booked tickets via a travel agent quite late. We were seated all over TAM B77W.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Whilst we can not atone for your experiences, as you are a Frequent Traveller we are pleased to credit your Miles & More account with 3000 miles which we hope you will accept as a token of our goodwill.

That truly is a great gesture from LH. Looks like it pays off to write some comments.

Regards,
Blaž

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-21 13:03:16 and read 18361 times.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 4):
What are the chances?!? 91K as well!

Really? Same plane, same seat - amazing!   

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 4):
I also got a menu on the FRA-NKG flight. Maybe they are onyl on the China route to help with language issues.

Yes, that's a good point.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 4):
Do Frankfurters like this food?

I think so, yes.


PH

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2011-07-21 13:08:28 and read 18337 times.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 5):
superb finish to your series with the flight on LH A380. You visited some interesting places and thanks for sharing the pictures with us.

Glad you liked it!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 5):

That truly is a great gesture from LH. Looks like it pays off to write some comments.

I think it always pays to write a comment - generally you at least get some better service from the FAs

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: FlyingFinn76
Posted 2011-07-22 03:16:22 and read 17404 times.

Hi Gabriel,

Good to read the final part of your epic Asian trip! Very nice that you managed to fit the whalejet into your itinerary, it still is something special...

Looks like a very good experience with LH.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was given a complimentary cup of tea once my ticket arrived, and I waited for the train

Wow, how generous of them!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
how they managed to ruffle up a ticket with an hours notice is beyond me. I was hoping it wasn’t a fake.

This is something I have a hard time understanding as a citizen of a completely different country - how can a train be booked solid and what an earth is a fake ticket? Yeah, a different culture for sure.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
FIDS

Good to see AY52 there - I took it once. It was a MD-11 back then, very nice.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Food options

Hah, Pizza Hut or "Japanese Food" - the choices seem to be a bit limited  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The neighbouring flight to London. I swear that I saw that same AY aircraft in HKG, NRT and PEK.

That's quite possible, it's not like they have that many of them.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I don’t think many other European FAs would spend time chatting to Chinese teenagers!

Then again I think Chinese teenagers are not so obnoxious as their kinfolk from certain other countries (*cough* UK *cough* US *cough*). Did they speak English?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Lunch is served. I went with the stir fried chicken and black bean sauce – no complaints.

Looks very good for an economy class meal! Hopefully we will get something as good on our BOG flights.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
About half an hour after I handed it in, the aforementioned FA came around, thanking me for my comments, and asked if the map was working again or not. It hadn’t, but I could deal with it – I was more just letting them know it wasn’t working. About two weeks after the flight, I was sent this email – excellent customer service:

That's good, I appreciate the fact that you nowadays do this. Far too many people (yours truly included) just complain and rant but never bother to file an official complaint. Then again the few times I have done so have it usually has been with companies who never bothered getting back to me, so props for Lufthansa for replying to you as well!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The 3000 miles were indeed credited. Excellent!

Now that was totally unexpected, but very very nice indeed!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I quite fancided winning the trolley, but nothing caught my eye in the duty free magazine

Errr, what an earth would you do with it? Or does it come loaded with booze?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
We ended up sitting on the taxiway for 40 minutes, before we could finally taxi into position.

That's not very good.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
FRA is enormous!

Yeah, it is, and very confusing as well as the split between Schengen and non-Schengen isn't very clear there. I think they keep moving the walkways and access routes around as well.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I think that photo sums up the wonders of international mobility quite well!

Great shot!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The range of food and drink on offer

Ahh, I've been in that lounge as well. First I was shocked that there would be no wurst and potato salad offered, but luckily scrolling down revealed this German staple.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The snack this afternoon was a weird potato ham salad thing. Tasted ok.

Looks really weird. This new short haul catering concept is interesting. I should be trying it out on my flights in couple of weeks for the first time. Hoping to get the new seats, too.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
It turns out there was an enormous storm system passing over Europe, pushing some lovely summer weather Eastwards, leaving the UK in a cold, wet mess.

Hah, nothing like that kind of weather to welcome you back home in the UK!

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2011-07-22 17:29:54 and read 16472 times.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):

Wow, how generous of them!

Well, it was the least they could do. I'd rather have had a beer or something, but it was free, and I would have been waiting around for my preferred train anyway.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):

This is something I have a hard time understanding as a citizen of a completely different country - how can a train be booked solid and what an earth is a fake ticket? Yeah, a different culture for sure.

Trains in China often run full - supply and demand still don't properly work over here. As such, some unscrupulous people 'fake' the tickets, and then sell them on. The Chinese have just started checking IDs when booking train tickets, then printing the number on the ticket, to be cross referenced at the station, to stop this touting. Fake tickets are a pretty big problem.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):

Then again I think Chinese teenagers are not so obnoxious as their kinfolk from certain other countries (*cough* UK *cough* US *cough*). Did they speak English?

Well, they spoke some. And there a plenty of obnoxious Chinese teenagers. Ever heard of Little Emperor Syndrome?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):

Looks very good for an economy class meal! Hopefully we will get something as good on our BOG flights.

I hope so. I think the menus might only be on routes where there are lots of language difficulties though.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):

That's good, I appreciate the fact that you nowadays do this. Far too many people (yours truly included) just complain and rant but never bother to file an official complaint. Then again the few times I have done so have it usually has been with companies who never bothered getting back to me, so props for Lufthansa for replying to you as well!

My MO nowadays is to fill in a card, even when I don't have much to say - results in better service 100% of the times I've done it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):

Errr, what an earth would you do with it? Or does it come loaded with booze?

Um, yeah, maybe store my booze in it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):

Great shot!

Thanks!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):

Hah, nothing like that kind of weather to welcome you back home in the UK!

Well, I only missed the great weather by a couple of hours.

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: flightsimboy
Posted 2011-07-22 19:34:16 and read 16325 times.

I thoroughly enjoyed your trip on the A380, though I have to say I am still not really in love with the aircraft. But I am definitely in love with Lufthansa, and never tire of reading the trip reports here!!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
On the first day, I took a local bus (to the horror of the concierge at the hotel) to the Hanging Monastery.

Was his horror due to the bus ride, or the fact that the Hanging Monestary is practically on poles, or whatever it is that is supporting them. Though a really great picture!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Whilst I enjoyed my trip to the Yungang Caves, I shouldn’t have stayed so long in Datong (48 hours!). as it was, I decided to take a sleeper train to Beijing, arriving in Beijing around 24 hours before my flight home. I decided to entrust the ticket purchase to the hotels’ front desk. I paid up front, and they said they should have the ticket the same evening (this was the first day). When I didn’t arrive that evening, I asked at the front desk the next morning. I was told it was “on it’s way”. Not a good sign. At lunchtime I asked again. Same response. After my trip to the caves, I came back, slightly worried as the train for this evening (albeit at 2am, arriving in Beijing around 9am). I was told, it had just been purchased, and would be at the hotel soon. I went off, and had the hotel buffet. I went back to the front desk, and was told it was one it’s way still. A few minutes later, the manager came over and told me “there was a little problem”. The train was either sold out, or didn’t exist, so everyone (as I had imagined) was lying to me for the last day. I was told that there was an earlier train leaving around 11pm, which arrived into Beijing at 5am that I could get a sleeper on. Not having many options left, I accepted. Arriving at 5am was far from ideal. However, as I was staying in another Holiday Inn in Beijing, I asked them to call and request an early check in (which they did).
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
When I originally booked these flights, I went online to reserve specific seats. The front section of the A380 was all blocked out. I gave LH a call, and was told that these were only for Star Gold, until online check in, whereupon anyone could get them. I dutifully waited until T-24, where the seats were still unavailable (but check in was open). I waited another hour (T-23) when check in should officially open, and the seats are still unavailable. I give LH reservations a call, who say that the flight is under airport control. I call the airport, who say that as LH Silver I can get those seats through online check in (which I can’t). The lady then says that they have no control between T-24 and departure….. what? So no one has control in the last 24 hours? Confusing, and annoying. I ended up sticking with my original seat, and not checking in online.

That is really quite frustrating. Glad it all worked out for you in the end.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
This lady with the camcorder was so excited she went the wrong way

That was quite funny. I guess the A380 is a fairly new feature in Beijing with EK also recently sending their jets there.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Boarding took quite a while, and the rear section was filling up very slowly. I was hoping to have a bit of space top spread out in. However, a group of Chinese school kids (around 16 years old, all in awful Chinese tracksuit uniforms) boarded, filling in all the empty seats in the rear section. Grrrr. Thankfully, the kids were great. They were quiet, and accommodating. I’m surprised that the group organiser (or LH) hadn’t arranged for group seating. It seemed very strange that they were randomly seated throughout the cabin. I had a boy and a girl sat in the middle and aisle. I chatted with them a bit during the flight. They were enroute to Sweden (ARN) for 2 weeks. I was unable to establish (maybe they weren’t sure either) what exactly they would be doing there. They didn’t speak any Swedish! There was one FA who was very good at getting them all seated (I don’t think many had done a lot of flying before), and chatting to them. I don’t think many other European FAs would spend time chatting to Chinese teenagers!
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
As is becoming a bit of a custom, I filled in a comments form, mentioning both the faulty moving map, and the excellent service from the FA mentioned earlier (during the flight, she’d been constantly cheerful, and quick with topping up my G&Ts!). About half an hour after I handed it in, the aforementioned FA came around, thanking me for my comments, and asked if the map was working again or not. It hadn’t, but I could deal with it – I was more just letting them know it wasn’t working.

Extremely down to earth FAs, like some I have also experienced on LH! Great for her to come by and acknowledge your kind wishes, and also ask about the flight map. I am glad she took the time to speak to the teenagers as well. And yes as mentioned by both you and FlyingFinn some teenagers are truly obnoxious, to the point they can even scare some adults!!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
About two weeks after the flight, I was sent this email – excellent customer service:

Nice about the 3000 Miles and More credit.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Landing was pretty heavy, with quite a few screams. The pilot came on to welcome us to FRA, saying “sorry for the rough landing. This aircraft can be landed smoothly!”. There was also a announcement in Chinese only reminding everyone to keep their seatbelts fastened.

As a result of landing 30 minutes early, our gate wasn’t ready, or more accurately, there was something in the way. We ended up sitting on the taxiway for 40 minutes, before we could finally taxi into position.

Was that the lady with the video camera screaming, as it fell out of her hand with the hard landing LOL! Any extra time on an aircraft even after a long haul is a bonus, unless you have a connecting flight to catch!!!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
It was only as we disembarked, and I pulled up the arm rest that I noticed this hidden underneath – I wonder if anyone else knows of their existence!?

Discovered really late in the flight!!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 4):
Me too, love a long daytime flight.

I can't recall reading but were the shades pulled down during the entire flight, or were asked to shut yours if the others were closed. Emirates and Etihad both have this policy on their flights, though it is not strictly enforced.

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: abrelosojos
Posted 2011-07-22 21:06:11 and read 16237 times.

Good to read about LH's 388. I believe this is the first 380 report from PEK. Thanks for sharing.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Amusingly, the purser informed everyone that we were flying on a “new A380, named after Zurich, the capital….er….um….city of Switzerland”. He didn’t correct himself!

= That is TRULY poor. As a German, he should have known better.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The sleek lines of the B744, headed for Tehran – I’m surprised that they managed to fill this. The departure lounge was packed

= IKA does well for LH. Tons of connections from all over the place, especially N.America (LAX/ORD/BOS).

Saludos,
A.

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: akhmad
Posted 2011-07-23 07:37:47 and read 15878 times.

Hi gabrielchew,

What an exquisite series of your China roundtrip. Mesmerizing scenery. Marvelous culture with amazing heritage. Delicious food. So inspiring!

Pity about messed up inquiry of your train ticket.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Hope it didn’t come out of her wages, or else she’d probably end up owing money for that day.

Is it how things work in China?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
so managed to get a few photos.

Appealing interior. Especially the golden crane.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I think the serendipitous timing made his day!

Nice to know no one bothered his photography on the tarmac.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
that service started from both the very front, and very back, so I also got a choice of meals, and reasonably fast service

How efficient. Typical LH! Look, you got sparkling wine as well in Y.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Lunch is served. I went with the stir fried chicken and black bean sauce – no complaints.

Look delicious indeed.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
We ended up sitting on the taxiway for 40 minutes, before we could finally taxi into position

That is a long wait!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I wonder if anyone else knows of their existence!?

Now we do, thanks to you.   


Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
so she whispered that I could skip the queue if I didn’t tell anyone else in the queue! Thanks!!

That is very nice of her.

Thanks for sharing your experience. LH is impressive once again.

Best wishes,
Suryo

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: LHPII
Posted 2011-07-23 13:32:51 and read 15622 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 2):
I cannot believe you got a menu card - I didn't get any on my SFO-MUC flight in October and the JNB-FRA flight in May. This is very odd!
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 4):
I also got a menu on the FRA-NKG flight. Maybe they are onyl on the China route to help with language issues.

LH offers menu cards in Y class on flights to Japan, Korea and China.

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2011-07-24 09:32:59 and read 15037 times.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 10):
I thoroughly enjoyed your trip on the A380, though I have to say I am still not really in love with the aircraft. But I am definitely in love with Lufthansa, and never tire of reading the trip reports here!!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 10):

Was his horror due to the bus ride, or the fact that the Hanging Monestary is practically on poles, or whatever it is that is supporting them. Though a really great picture!

Horror that I would atempt the jouney via public transport. It was a pretty horrible journey, I must say.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 10):
Any extra time on an aircraft even after a long haul is a bonus, unless you have a connecting flight to catch!!!

Well, after a 10 hour flight, sitting on the tarmac for 40 mins is a bit of a pain.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 10):
Discovered really late in the flight!!
Quoting akhmad (Reply 12):
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I wonder if anyone else knows of their existence!?
Now we do, thanks to you.

They should advertise that they have this service. I mean, how many people check underneath the arm rests?

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 10):
I can't recall reading but were the shades pulled down during the entire flight, or were asked to shut yours if the others were closed. Emirates and Etihad both have this policy on their flights, though it is not strictly enforced.

No, window shades stayed open during the flight.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 11):
Good to read about LH's 388. I believe this is the first 380 report from PEK. Thanks for sharing.

No problem!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 11):
= That is TRULY poor. As a German, he should have known better.

Wel, I think he realised as soon as he said it, he just didn't want to correct himeself. And I imagine, not too many people noticed! It's just a shame for him that I noticed, and told everyone on the net!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 12):
Is it how things work in China?

Often.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 12):
Appealing interior. Especially the golden crane.

Yeah, they've done a good job on the A380 interior.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 12):
Nice to know no one bothered his photography on the tarmac.

China is pretty good when it comes to photo taking. Very few places are restricted in practise (although offically, it may be a different story). When I took +30 photos on the tarmac waiting for board my MA60 in XIY, no one said anything.

Quoting LHPII (Reply 13):
LH offers menu cards in Y class on flights to Japan, Korea and China.

Interesting to know. So I won't get a menu on the FRA-BOG flight I'm taking in Oct. Shame

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: comorin
Posted 2011-07-24 09:58:29 and read 14994 times.

Thanks for a great report!

I have to ask this - how are the public toilets in China once you get away from your Hotel, like in the train etc? I have heard horror stories of Asian loos... please tell me it isn't so!

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2011-07-25 05:19:24 and read 14581 times.

Quoting comorin (Reply 15):
Thanks for a great report!

No problem, glad you enjoyed it!

Quoting comorin (Reply 15):
I have to ask this - how are the public toilets in China once you get away from your Hotel, like in the train etc? I have heard horror stories of Asian loos... please tell me it isn't so!

Well, there is a vast range of toilets in China. On some of the modern trains (like the ones that crashed a few days ago - it was always going to happen, just a matter of when), the toilets are kept very clean. On most of the older trains, in 'hard seat' class, the toilets are smelly rooms, with a hole in the floor leading straight onto the track. Most are squat down, which to be honest I prefer, as the cleanliness of some toilets leave s alot to be desired, and it's better if you don't have to touch anything! Bring along some water-free hand sanitiser!

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: JetBlue777
Posted 2011-07-25 06:19:57 and read 14503 times.

Very Impressive TR!

We're going to Europe next summer from JFK and this TR convinced me that I have to fly with LH's A380!

I'm sorry to hear about the moving map problem, as an aviation geek myself, I always want to be updated with the current position of my flight   But I'm impressed that LH actually took time to write back and even gave you 3,000 Miles!

I'm also glad that you had a great flight attendant, based on previous LH TRs, it looks like their service is pretty good! And oh, I do agree.... those awful track suits! 

Was taking pictures out the window challenging? Or do you have to zoom in or lean over the sidewall?

It's also nice to see the coffee machines (and hot chocolate!) in FRA. Looking forward to my trip with LH, I'll go out of my way to definitely fly with them. My family usually flies with *Alliance, so we're down with LX, LH, SK and LO. LO is definitely out with their aging 763s and bad reputation, SK flies nonstop (I hate nonstop flights, the more airports and flights = happier me) ) So they are out. Which leaves LH and LX in the list, Hmmm A330 vs A380?  

Thanks for the great trip report, looking forward to more.

JetBLue777

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2011-07-25 15:38:25 and read 14005 times.

Quoting JetBlue777 (Reply 17):
Very Impressive TR!

Thanks!

Quoting JetBlue777 (Reply 17):
We're going to Europe next summer from JFK and this TR convinced me that I have to fly with LH's A380!

Yeah, the A380 is pretty good, and the LH service is more than adequte (although I miss the minatures on BA!)

Quoting JetBlue777 (Reply 17):
Was taking pictures out the window challenging? Or do you have to zoom in or lean over the sidewall?

The windows are a bit think on the bottom deck, but nothing to infringe on photography

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: MSS658
Posted 2011-07-27 04:44:08 and read 13415 times.

Hi

Nice ending of your trip report series, from the giant 380 to the tiny-tiny E95.  

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2011-07-29 05:45:09 and read 13086 times.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 19):
Nice ending of your trip report series

Thanks!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 19):
from the giant 380 to the tiny-tiny E95.

Yeah, it was a good change of gauge. I really like the E series, probably more so than the A380.

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: LH4116
Posted 2011-07-31 00:04:00 and read 12591 times.

Hey Gabriel, great report!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
ughout the cabin. I had a boy and a girl sat in the middle and aisle. I chatted with them a bit during the flight. They were enroute to Sweden (ARN) for 2 weeks. I was unable to establish (maybe they weren’t sure either) what exactly they would be doing there. They didn’t speak any Swedish!

That's interesting, exactly my thought "what on earth are they planning to do here", then again I'd imagine Sweden being very exotic for an Asian, vice versa for us. But I'm guessing your impressions of Sweden weren't too good  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was quite glad to see ‘Zurich’ at the gate, LH’s second newest A380 having been delivered just under three months earlier.

That thing is really a beast, not the best looking aircraft either.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Whilst we can not atone for your experiences, as you are a Frequent Traveller we are pleased to credit your Miles & More account with 3000 miles which we hope you will accept as a token of our goodwill.

That's very generous! Do they give miles with every survey, or was it just this one?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I quite fancided winning the trolley, but nothing caught my eye in the duty free magazine

That's the silliest thing ever! Who would want a trolley in their house (i.e regular mainstream air travelers, not a.netters   ), also the fact that you had to purchase stuff for €100 to enter was pretty strange too. Does the trolley come with any contents e.g booze, perfumes, etc or do you just get the trolley itself. I'm guessing the cance for winning is pretty big.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
It was only as we disembarked, and I pulled up the arm rest that I noticed this hidden underneath – I wonder if anyone else knows of their existence!?

Lol, so you can have internet connection via ethernet on the A380. Did not know that!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The Privatair flight to Khartoum

Interesting, didn't know there was such a demand for premium traffic on that route. Then again with the "crisis" going on in Sudan atm, I'm guessing this flight mainly carries diplomats, hence it being all C.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I wasn’t much in the mood for more alcohol, so just had some water.

I would never have thought you'd say that!

Thanks for sharing!
//Jonas

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2011-07-31 03:11:08 and read 12409 times.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
Hey Gabriel, great report!

THanks!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):

That's very generous! Do they give miles with every survey, or was it just this one?

No, it was compensation for not having a moving map!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
That's the silliest thing ever! Who would want a trolley in their house (i.e regular mainstream air travelers, not a.netters ), also the fact that you had to purchase stuff for €100 to enter was pretty strange too. Does the trolley come with any contents e.g booze, perfumes, etc or do you just get the trolley itself. I'm guessing the cance for winning is pretty big.

I don't think it'd be full of stuff, but who knows!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
Interesting, didn't know there was such a demand for premium traffic on that route. Then again with the "crisis" going on in Sudan atm, I'm guessing this flight mainly carries diplomats, hence it being all C.

They also have Y on this aircraft.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 21):
I would never have thought you'd say that!

I'm not a complete alcholic!

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2011-08-07 00:40:40 and read 11788 times.

Nice read as expected GC, nice selection of pictures too, thanks for posting for us.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I took a local bus (to the horror of the concierge at the hotel) to the Hanging Monastery


- Looks fantastic from the picture.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
When I originally booked these flights, I went online to reserve specific seats. The front section of the A380 was all blocked out. I gave LH a call, and was told that these were only for Star Gold, until online check in, whereupon anyone could get them. I dutifully waited until T-24, where the seats were still unavailable (but check in was open). I waited another hour (T-23) when check in should officially open, and the seats are still unavailable. I give LH reservations a call, who say that the flight is under airport control. I call the airport, who say that as LH Silver I can get those seats through online check in (which I can’t). The lady then says that they have no control between T-24 and departure….. what? So no one has control in the last 24 hours?

- I always rate LH highly for their efficiency, so this was quite odd to read about.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Lunch is served. I went with the stir fried chicken and black bean sauce – no complaints

- Looks pretty decent, in my limited LH longhaul experience, the food is pretty reasonable and and they are generous with drinks.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
We ended up sitting on the taxiway for 40 minutes, before we could finally taxi into position

- One of the drawbacks of an early arrival, a gate still being occupied!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
It was only as we disembarked, and I pulled up the arm rest that I noticed this hidden underneath – I wonder if anyone else knows of their existence!?

- Yes, found that last year on D-AIMA.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The snack this afternoon was a weird potato ham salad thing. Tasted ok

- Hmm, not the most apetising looking thing.

Cheers

Mark

Topic: RE: Asia Part 5: Lufthansa A380 And E90 (PEK-FRA-LCY)
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2011-08-08 03:48:10 and read 11479 times.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 23):
Nice read as expected GC, nice selection of pictures too, thanks for posting for us.

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 23):

- Looks fantastic from the picture.

Yeah, it was a pretty amazing place

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 23):

- I always rate LH highly for their efficiency, so this was quite odd to read about.

Odd to read about, very frustrating to experience!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 23):

- One of the drawbacks of an early arrival, a gate still being occupied!

Well, it wasn't our gate that was occupied. There was someone else waiting for a gate that was blocking our path of to our gate. I'm surpised that there wasn't another route we could have taken. Maybe the A380s are restricted in where they can taxi?


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