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Topic: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
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Background
In the middle of the cold and snowy December 2010 my brother and I decided to escape to the US West Coast for a few days in early February. My brother hadn't been to that part of the country yet and he was very interested in visiting Las Vegas, Los Angeles and San Francisco. I always enjoy going to California and saw the chance to meet some very good friends again. We came to the conclusion that it would be a good opportunity to exchange accumulated miles for Business Class tickets. After checking all possible flight options on the Miles & More website, it was clear that we would try SWISS' new intercontinental Business Class with lie-flat seats. That innovative product was available on all A330-300s and a few A340-300s. Destinations served by the retrofitted A343s in early February were San Francisco, Boston, Hong Kong, Los Angeles and New York (once weekly).

I was first considering to take an A330 flight to Chicago and an A340 flight from Los Angeles or San Francisco so that we would be able to get both types. But I quickly scrapped that idea because I didn't want to risk being stuck at Chicago in a possible snow storm. So we finally booked Munich-Zurich-San Francisco and Los Angeles-Zurich-Munich, operated by Swiss A340s, a Swiss European Avro RJ100 and a Lufthansa A319. At the end of the convenient booking process we were able to select our seats on all four sectors - and there were still many empty seats, so we got exactly what we wanted: single window seats on the flight to SFO and center seats in the two-row forward section (so-called "Stübli") on the return flight from LAX.  thumbsup 
Here's the seatmap:
http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/about_sw...ircraft/Pages/airbus_a340_new.aspx

After booking the long-haul flight combo, we added a few domestic hops. Of course I wanted to get some new airlines, so we decided to book a San Francisco-Denver-Las Vegas connection on Orbitz. There would have been cheaper options (including numerous nonstop flights), but Republic Airlines (Embraer 170) and Frontier Airlines (A319) were new carriers for me - and I had never been to Denver. Then we booked a cheap US Airways A319 flight from Las Vegas to Los Angeles. I would have preferred one of the few hops operated by Mesa Airlines CRJ900s in order to get another new airline, but departure times weren’t favorable.

Since my brother had never been to the Grand Canyon, he suggested to add a scenic flight from/to Las Vegas to our itinerary. After checking all available options, we booked a one-hour flight offered by Vision Holidays and operated by Vision Airlines. It wasn't cheap, but we were sure it would be a special experience - and I would get another new airline and even another new type, the rare Dornier 228.

Parts I, II and III can be found here:
Fully Flat Bed to SFO: SWISS' New Business Class
San Francisco Sunshine...and A Frontier Fiasco
Grand Canyon & More: Scenic Flight On Dornier 228





Sunday, February 2011
Las Vegas (LAS) - Los Angeles (LAX)
US Airways US104
Scheduled times: 10:50-12:02
Actual times: 10:46-11:51
Flight duration: 00:43 (hrs)
Distance: 236 miles
Economy Class, seat 21B

Airbus A319-132
N838AW (MSN 2615)
First delivered to America West Airlines in 11/2005


1st flight on N838AW
18th A319 flight
65th A32X flight



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More than two hours prior to departure, we took a shuttle from the Bellagio to the airport and went straight to the US Airways check-in kiosks. After paying $25 for each checked bag, we got our boarding passes with the pre-selected seats in the second last row. There weren't long lines at security, so we soon arrived in the gate area. After having breakfast, I started spotting while my brother took a few pictures.

Where else do you find such a scenery at an airport?

Picture taken by my brother


Las Vegas Sands Boeing 767-300ER in the background:

Picture taken by my brother


Picture taken by my brother


"Canyon Blue" is dominating at LAS:

Picture taken by my brother


I hadn't been expecting too much from that upcoming standard US Airways A319 flight, but I was positively surprised when N838AW showed up at our gate - it's one of several retro jets in the fleet. Well, the plane just wears America West’s last colorscheme, but it's still something special in the carrier’s 93-strong A319 fleet:



This logo next to the main door represents four carriers once merged into USAir/US Airways. Can you name them?


Here's the solution (clockwise from top): PSA Airlines, Piedmont Airlines, America West Airlines and Allegheny Airlines.

I noticed one friendly flight attendant when I entered the cabin, the others apparently weren't in good mood. The leather seats were okay...



...and legroom was acceptable for that short hop:


The flight was packed, I didn't see an empty seat in Economy Class. However, it would only be a short flight, so I didn't mind about being stuck in the middle seat.

In the background you can see a nice bunch of Boeing 737-600s operated by defense contractor EG&G and mostly used for shuttle flights to the Nevada Test Site, most notably Area 51:

Picture taken by my brother


More "Canyon Blue":

Picture taken by my brother


We took off from runway 1R...

Picture taken by my brother


...and soon turned left - it couldn't have been any better:

Picture taken by my brother


Picture taken by my brother


Picture taken by my brother


These buildings are huge:

Picture taken by my brother


Out into the desert again:

Picture taken by my brother


Picture taken by my brother


Here's what I found in the seat pocket. In-flight magazine...



...and buy-on-board menu (no sale on this flight):







Non-alcoholic drinks were served free of charge. Ginger ale for me, of course:



No PTVs and not even fold-out screens - that's what a US Airways A319 cabin looks like:



The snowy mountains indicated that we would soon start the descent into LAX:

Picture taken by my brother


On final approach to LAX - always such a pleasure! Note the American Boeing 767 in "stealth mode":

Picture taken by my brother

We touched down after a flying time of 43 minutes and arrived at the gate more than ten minutes early. 20 minutes later, we grabbed our luggage and were welcomed by a good friend who drove us to his family's house in Whittier where we would have a great party and spend the night.


Los Angeles Sightseeing & Spotting
On the next morning my friend Lars aka The777Man picked us up and drove us to Hollywood and Beverly Hills where my brother hadn't been before. While strolling down the Walk of Fame, we met Marilyn Monroe...

Picture taken by my brother


...and had a look at Michael Jackson's star:

Picture taken by my brother


Finally, we went to the famous In-N-Out at South Sepulveda Boulevard, took a seat outside..

Picture taken by my brother


...and enjoyed great hamburgers and spectacular views of approaching aircraft:

Picture taken by my brother


Picture taken by my brother


Picture taken by my brother


Later in the afternoon we went to the spotting spot at Imperial Hill on the opposite side, enjoyed the warm February sun and many interesting movements:

Picture taken by my brother


Picture taken by my brother

The time flew by - it always does when I meet Lars. On the way to the Tom Bradley International Terminal, Lars took a detour along the cargo ramp so that I could write down a few more FedEx registrations. Finally, it was time to say goodbye and we went to the Swiss check-in area.




Monday, February 2011
Los Angeles (LAX) - Zurich (ZRH)
Swiss Int'l Air Lines LX041
Scheduled times: 19:20-15:45
Actual times: 19:18-15:25
Flight duration: 10:52 (hrs)
Distance: 5938 miles
Business Class, seat 5G

Airbus A340-313X
HB-JML (MSN 263)
First delivered to Austrian Airlines as OE-LAL in 03/1999


1st flight on HB-JML
8th A340-300 flight
11th A340 flight



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Former appearances as OE-LAL:


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The Business Class counters were deserted, so it took only a few minutes until the friendly agent handed out our boarding passes. While my brother had a look at the shops in the public area, I went to a window on the second floor and watched arriving and departing planes on the north side. Finally, we passed security and went to the nice Star Alliance lounge which is equipped with 210 seats for Business Class passengers. Many seats were already taken, but we still found a nice corner where we would spend the remaining time at LAX:



In addition to all kinds of drinks, we could choose between different cold snacks, soup and pasta:



Considering that we would get exquisite food and beverages on the plane, I only ate some (tasty) pasta and drank a can of ginger ale:



Shortly before 19:00, the official boarding time for J Class passengers, we left the lounge and arrived at the gate five minutes later. The gate was totally deserted, most other passengers had boarded already. Even though I had already heard from my girlfriend that HB-JML would operate our flight according to Zurich Airport's website, I wanted to have a look myself - you never know if these websites get it right in any case. Btw - I had certainly been hoping again that HB-JMJ (San Francisco livery) would show up, but that had been assigned to the Miami route today according to the ZRH website...  thumbsdown 

Well, back to LAX. Unfortunately, it was absolutely impossible to see a relevant part of the aircraft, so I had to ask. After having received a friendly welcome by the Maître de Cabine (purser), a stout and tall man in the late 40s or early 50s, I asked him for the registration. "It's Mike Lima", he quickly said. "Very good!", I replied and smiled. I guess by this point he was already assuming that I wasn’t a "normal" passenger.  Wink

Btw - HB-JML is also an ex-Austrian Airlines, just like HB-JMK which I had on the ZRH-SFO sector. Both planes once formed Austrian Airlines' two strong A340-300 fleet, operating as OE-LAL and OE-LAK.

Swiss' new Business Class layout provides a private feel - but it feels even more private in the two-row mini cabin behind First Class. That section is unofficially called "Stübli" - actually I heard a flight attendant using that term during the flight. Here's a "Stübli" cabin shot - rows 4 and 5, that's it:



Our comfortable seats for the next 11 hours:



More than enough legroom:


If you want to read more about the seats and the IFE, have a look at Part I of my series:
Fully Flat Bed to SFO: SWISS' New Business Class

After we had taken our seats, a young female flight attendant offered different American and Swiss magazines and newspapers. She was quite reserved and her smile appeared artificial which didn't leave a good first impression.

In contrast, pre-departure drinks were served in a friendly manner by another flight attendant. Champagne for me, of course:



Our jackets were taken away and I shortly watched a pre-departure TV feature about penguins...



...but I was much more interested in the amenity kit. It was a different one this time and I couldn't find out whether it was also made by Navyboot like the one I got on the ZRH-SFO flight:





Most seats in the "Stübli" had been taken, but it still felt very private in that superb section. What I found irritating was that the famous Christmas song "I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas" was played for a few seconds after boarding had been completed - apparently someone had pressed the wrong button.  Wink

The Maître de Cabine made a welcome speech and also mentioned that - due to U.S. security regulations - passengers should not cluster in the aisles and in front of the lavatories during the flight.  Yeah sure

After we had left the gate (two minutes early), the captain introduced himself and announced that we would take off from runway 25R in about three or four minutes. He also informed us about a left turn after takeoff and gave some details on the routing. Exactly as announced, HB-JML soon turned onto the runway without any further delay and lifted off into the night sky after a typical A340 classic style takeoff roll.

The flight attendants set the tables after a while and offered crackers and drinks. In contrast to numerous other airlines, Swiss doesn't serve nuts or crackers in small bowls. I asked for another glass of champagne and sparkling water - but the latter turned out to be still water:


Interestingly, a very friendly female flight attendant in the 40s (I'll call her S.), mostly serving in my aisle, continuously addressed me by name. In contrast, my brother didn't receive the same personalized treatment by the flight attendants serving in his aisle.

Anyway, it was time to study the menu card:







This time, only one option had been created by Chef Mattias Roock, responsible for the four restaurants of the Kempinski Grand Hotel des Bains in St. Moritz. Nevertheless, everything sounded delicious:









I decided to start dinner with the shrimps - and shortly after my order a nice tray was delivered to my table. In addition, I took a warmed bread roll from a basket and asked for a glass of white wine and a glass of sparkling water which were promptly (and correctly) served:


The shrimps and the sweet and spicy sauce as well as the salad and the oil dressing tasted very good, but the Chinese noodles weren't exactly to my taste.

Now I was really looking forward to the fillet of beef - would the meat be as tasty as on the ZRH-SFO flight? It looked quite promising and smelled mouth-watering:


So how was the meat after all? Just one word: e-x-c-e-l-l-e-n-t! No doubt, it was one of the best steaks I have ever eaten. And the potatoes, the broccoli and the herb butter tasted great, too.

My brother and I were so impressed that we took close-up pictures of the meat. Doesn't it look perfect?


While my brother and I were taking pictures of the meat - and we had to take quite a few to get sharp ones - I noticed that someone was standing just behind the curtain on the left. I was able to see a nose and glasses, so I assumed it would be the Maître de Cabine watching us. Well, I was right: Some moments later, after we had started eating, he showed up next to my brother and asked with a concerned expression on his face: "Is everything alright with your meal?"  alert  "Of course! It's excellent!", we replied and the Maître de Cabine was visibly relieved. I guess at this point he was absolutely convinced that both of us weren't "normal" passengers...  Wink

Fruit salad or vanilla mousse with blueberry compote? I opted for the latter:


The dessert tasted very good, but not as outstanding as Chef Mattias Roock's crunchy chocolate mousse with mango sauce on the ZRH-SFO flight.

I also had some cheese, of course:


Another round of drinks was served, this time by a male flight attendant in the mid-40s (I'll call him H.) and a female colleague in the 30s, both of them appeared a bit reserved. I just asked for a small sip of port, but he didn't tell that to his colleague who had the bottle. She filled up the whole glass and handed it to H. who placed it on my table and humorously said: "Well, it's a rather big sip."  Wink


Finally, S. showed up by with golden Lindt boxes and offered delicious chocolates. I selected two of them and ordered a tasty espresso:


Some minutes later, I asked S. whether I could get another espresso - but decaf. "Of course!", she kindly said. Two minutes later she was back with the decaf espresso which tasted great.

After dinner I continued chatting with my brother for a while, but then I moved my seat into lounge position and relaxed while listening to music and watching the airshow. While most other passengers in the "Stübli" sooner or later put their seats into lie-flat position, I didn't get tired at all and decided to watch a movie or TV feature. There had been problems with the IFE system after takeoff, but it was working fine again after a reset.
Language selection:



I was surprised to find "Top Gear" in the list - unfortunately, I had already watched the very episode last year:



Finally, I played "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?" for a while:





Some hours after dinner, I decided to stretch my legs and walked to the rear section and back. While the Business Class cabin looked quite full, there were numerous empty seats in Economy Class. Some passengers had been lying across several seats with their feet extending into the aisle, so I had to watch out.

The young female flight attendant and H. were chatting in the forward galley and I decided to join them. I soon found out that they weren't as reserved as I had assumed earlier. I asked a few questions and found out, amongst other things, that the whole First Class section had remained empty.

During our conversation I mentioned that I post reports about my flights on the Internet and H. reacted totally different as expected: "And are there any people who read that?", he sneered. "Yes, several thousands", I replied. Then he bowed theatrically and said: "Oh, that means I have to be very kind to you!" No doubt, that man had a special sense of humor!  thumbsup  Nevertheless, they found it quite interesting to hear about my policy to try as many airlines as possible.
Anyway, before returning to my seat, I mentioned that I wanted to grab a small snack. "We also have big snacks", H. ensured. I was happy with some chocolates:



I still wasn’t feeling tired, so I continued using the IFE system. Interestingly, we were flying on a relatively southern route - and I noticed that Swiss belongs to the carriers which display accident sites of maritime disasters on the map:



When I went to the galley in order to get a drink, I met the Maître de Cabine (I'll call him M/C) and the young female flight attendant (again). I jokingly asked why Swiss hadn't sent sister ship HB-JMJ (San Francisco livery) to Los Angeles as so often recently. "I guess that's on the San Francisco route", M/C said. "No, it went to Miami today", I replied which astonished him. He asked whether I work in the aviation business and I told him about my hobby and the fact that I write reports about my flights.

Now we started talking intensively about aircraft types and airlines in general as well as Swiss in particular. I told him things which he hadn't heard before and he told me lots of things about Swiss which I hadn't known yet - I won't go into detail here, though. Anyway, at one point I mentioned that I didn't want to keep him from doing his work, but he just said: "There's not much to do at night, so I have time."

Of course I praised the new Business Class and he was glad to hear that. I asked about general acceptance and he said that a vast majority of passengers has reacted positively to the new product. Well, he also told me about a special passenger who was permanently complaining about the seat and permanently referring to allegedly better products on other carriers. "I have tolerated his criticism for a long time, but then I spoke my mind!", M/C said and smiled.  thumbsup  I also took the opportunity and asked whether I could have a look at the flight deck after landing. "I will certainly ask the captain!", M/C promised.

After about 45 minutes (or even longer) I finally returned to my seat. And that's what I found there:


My brother said that H. had placed two bags of this kind at our seats. Very nice!

Only 1445 miles to go:




Time literally flew by - it even made me a bit sad when H. passed my seat and said: "Two hours left."

About 1.5 hours prior to landing, tables were set again and H. soon showed up with a breakfast trolley:


H. placed a tray with empty plates and bowls on my table and said: "This is our low-calorie breakfast. Enjoy your meal!" That guy was really funny!  thumbsup 

Then he asked me what I'd like to eat and since I was undecided, he suggested: "Would you like to try a little bit of everything?" That was a good idea and I agreed. After all cold items had been placed on the tray, S. brought a plate with hot items. In addition, different kinds of bread and rolls were offered. Now that's what I call a decent breakfast:


S. asked me whether I wanted to have tea, coffee or anything else and I ordered a decaf espresso again. "Sure. Would you like to have a double espresso?", she replied and I agreed. That pro-active service was really impressive!  thumbsup 
As for the breakfast - what to say? Both quality and quantity were excellent, everything tasted great. Even though I usually don't eat muesli, I was totally impressed by Swiss' outstanding Bircher muesli.

After I had finished eating, M/C came by with good news: "The captain will be expecting you on the flight deck after landing."  thumbsup 
Some time later, after descent had commenced, I wanted to go to the restroom, but both Business Class lavatories were occupied. And that didn't change anytime soon, so I asked H., who was just passing by, if there's another lavatory for Business Class passengers – I didn’t say it, but what I meant was the First Class lavatory. He understood and said: "Please wait a minute." He shortly disappeared in the First Class section, came back and asked me to follow. Then he pulled the curtain aside a bit and said: "Use your chance." However, what surprised me was the fact that the First Class lavatory was neither larger nor better equipped than the (rather ordinary) Business Class lavatories.

Some time later, S. gave me an envelope and asked me to give feedback about the flight. On approach, shortly before the flight attendants took their seats, H. passed by again, expressed his dislike of the weather in Zurich and told us a joke: "How do you know that you are on approach to Zurich?" Of course we had no idea. "When you look out of the window and don't see anything."  Wink

Final approach from an usual perspective:


We touched down smoothly after a flying time of 10 hours and 52 minutes. And now believe it or not - while we were taxiing to the gate, "I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas" was played again for a few moments and I heard H. saying from behind: "Oh no, not again!" Big grin

The plane arrived at the gate 20 minutes ahead of schedule and it was time to say thank you and goodbye to H.. On the way through First Class (old version on all A340s) I took a seat picture...


...and S. immediately offered to take a picture of me sitting in a First Class seat. Of course I agreed. Then we exchanged some more words and I also thanked her for providing an outstanding service.

Then I walked towards the flight deck and M/C waved me in. The captain, a very friendly man, welcomed me and - surprisingly - even addressed me by name. Who knows what M/C had told him.  Wink
I expressed my surprise about the routing and the captain explained that the wind conditions had been the reason behind this. Then he gave me a small printout of the route and I asked if I could take a picture. He kindly agreed:


Before leaving the aircraft, I thanked M/C for his efforts and told him how much I had enjoyed this flight. We shook hands and he wished us a pleasant onward journey to Munich. I wish I could have gone straight on another flight with these superb crew members!

Goodbye, Mike Lima!




Transfer at Zurich
We took the train to the main terminal, passed passport control and headed towards the Swiss Business Lounge. Swiss narrowbody planes and Niki Embraer 190 parked at Dock A gates:


I wanted to use the transfer time for spotting, so I didn't accompany my brother to the lounge and went to the Dock A gate area instead. I still managed to get 17 new registrations which wasn't bad.




Tuesday, February 2011
Zurich (ZRH) - Munich (MUC)
Swiss European Air Lines LX1110
Scheduled times: 19:10-20:00
Actual times: 19:09-20:12
Flight duration: 00:44 (hrs)
Distance: 162 miles
Business Class, seat 4F

BAe Avro RJ100
HB-IYT (MSN 3380)
First delivered to CityFlyer Express as G-CFAD in 01/2001


1st flight on HB-IYT
2nd Avro RJ100 flight
4th Avroliner flight



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As soon as our gate number was announced, I had a look at the plane. HB-IYT, a former BA CityFlyer bird, was scheduled to operate the short hop to Munich - unfortunately, it wasn't possible to take a decent picture through the gate window. Interestingly, there wasn't a separate boarding announcement for Business Class passengers, so we had to wait in queue for a while.

The leather seats in Business Class are the same as in Economy, but the middle seat remains empty...





...and legroom is more generous:



Shortly after we had taken our seats, the friendly female Maître de Cabine offered magazines and newspapers and handed out bottles of water and refreshing towels:


Most seats in Business Class were taken and Economy Class was packed, too. Unlike on the MUC-ZRH flight on Lufthansa, a jacket storage service was available.

Cold and wet outside, welcome back to Central Europe:


We left the gate early, but due to heavy traffic we had to wait for a while until we could finally take off into the dark sky.

Only a few minutes after takeoff, the Maître de Cabine handed out trays and I was totally impressed:


No matter if cold cuts, cheese, antipasti, salmon, cucumber salad or chocolate mousse - everything tasted great, what a fancy little meal!  thumbsup 
Then the Maître de Cabine offered all kinds of drinks and I had a good coffee. Finally, she walked around with a basket full of the airline’s famous small chocolate bars. I finished my coffee after we had already started descending and the Maître de Cabine even asked if I wanted another cup.

After circling for a while, we finally touched down after a flying time of 44 minutes. Even though we had left the gate at ZRH on time, the plane reached the final parking position at MUC 12 minutes behind schedule - and we still had to take a bus to the terminal. We didn't mind, but some other passengers were in a hurry and started running as soon as the bus arrived at the terminal. I guess they had tight connections - definitely not to my taste!

The last two pictures of this trip:




Our luggage soon appeared on the belt and we headed to the S-Bahn for the short ride to our parking garage. A truly wonderful trip had come to an end - but in exactly four weeks I would return to MUC to go on another trip to warmer climes.



Conclusion
The LAX-ZRH flight on SWISS was another magnificent experience: excellent food, great crew, outstandingly personalized service. H., S. and M/C made this flight a very special and memorable one. I have already praised the new Business Class hardware and criticized the IFE in Part I of my series, so I won't do that again. I can only recommend SWISS' new J Class - which provides an even more private feel in the "Stübli".
I also highly enjoyed the short hop from Zurich to Munich on SWISS European - the Maître de Cabine provided a very good service and the catering was awesome.

There's not much to say about the short US Airways flight. The airline brought us to the destination on time and provided a free drink - that's it. I cannot think of anything special apart from the livery. What I'll definitely keep in mind is the fact that US Airways charges $25 for a checked bag - other airlines charge less or nothing.

Long-haul Business Class flights, nice sightseeing tours, meetings with good old friends - all that certainly contributed to the conclusion that this US West Coast trip belongs to the most enjoyable ones I have ever made. And another contributor is the fact that I flew on three new airlines and one new type, visited two new airports and logged a total of 143 new registrations.


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter



P.S.: Just in case you missed them - my previous trip reports:
Grand Canyon & More: Scenic Flight On Dornier 228
San Francisco Sunshine...and A Frontier Fiasco
Fully Flat Bed to SFO: SWISS' New Business Class
Mountains, Meals & More: SunExpress Vs. Pegasus
Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Bad Weather & Other Bad Luck: Touring New Zealand
Trans-Tasman Treat: Aerolineas Argentinas A340-200
Detours To Sydney: Wildlife, Tiger, REX & QFLink
Thai Fails To Impress: MUC-BKK-BNE On 744 & 777
Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Fifth Freedom Tidbit: Kuwait Airways A300-600
Ship Vs. Plane: Porto Santo Line & Sata Air Açores
Awesome Approach, Splendid Scenery: LIS, FNC & TAP
Guernsey, Ash Cloud Alarm & Mostly Empty SQ 77Ws
Totally Thrilling: Scenic Flight On Lufthansa A380
Cirrus D38, Adria CRJ & Captain Niki Lauda On Duty
Monarch Hot Meal, E195 & More: PMI-ALC-MAN-MUC
Premium Meal & Palma Spotting: MUC-PMI, DE 757-300
The Dead Slow Transfer: PEK-MUC On Air China A332
Cancellation Brings Joy: HKG-PEK on Dragonair A330
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The Next 5* Carrier? MUC-MCT-DXB, Oman Air A330
Turkey For 1.5 Hrs: Daytrip To AYT On Sky Airlines
CO Scores Again: ATL-IAH-EWR-FRA On ERJ, 752 & 764
Riding The Ultra Long-Haul Twin: Delta 777-200LR
Pacific Coast Jaunt: 3 Carriers, E120, E140 & Fog
The Ultimate 737: LHR-IAH-PDX On CO 777 & 739ER
Bye Bye, Hell! TRD-OSL-TXL-NUE - DY/AB/HE DH4
My Trip To Hell: NUE-CPH-OSL-TRD On Cimber & SAS
SFO-YUL-FRA: Map- & Sleepless On Air Canada's 77W
Sin City Gloss & Virgin America's Chic First Class
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On Par With Air France? DTW-AMS-MUC, KLM A330
Goodbye, Red Tails! DC-9-40/50 & Chicago Tour
Champagne & World Of Coke: Air France A340 To ATL
"Mission A380": Disappointing Legs On BA/BD/EI
Delights Of Doha, 773 & 77W: DOH-DXB-LHR On EK
A380 Really a Step Forward? LHR-DXB-DOH On EK
Quality & Style: HKG-LHR On Air New Zealand 744
Taiwan Trio: TransAsia, UNI Air And The Taipei 101
"The Wings Of Taiwan": EVA Air A332, 744 Combi
SHA-SZX, Shanghai 757: Delayed By The Military
PEK-SHA, China Eastern A330 & Shanghai At Night
Striking Newcomer: Berlin-Beijing On Hainan A330
Short & Splendid: MXP-MUC On Air Dolomiti's 146
3 Hours On Blue1: HEL-MXP On The MD-90
Winglets On A Classic: MUC-RIX-HEL On Air Baltic
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MUC-MAD-BCN: Star MD-87 & The Pain Of Vueling
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First And Last Time? JFK-FCO-MUC, Alitalia 777
JFK For 1 Day: Transatlantic Hop On CSA's A310
Sardinian Sun, Shiny New 73Gs & Cramped Mad Dog
Top And Flop: KIX-HEL-MUC, Finnair A320 & MD-11
The 524-Seat Twin-jet: HND-ITM On ANA 777-300
Kobe For 1 Hour: 767-Quickie On ANA & Skymark
Rocketing To Tokyo: FUK-HND On JAL (ex-JAS) 777
Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
MUC To Nagoya: Finnair E170 & (Old) "New" A340
Mad Dog, A320 Tech Delay & Best Of Lanzarote
Canaries Prop-Hopping: Islas Airways & Naysa
Canaries And Confusion: LH CRJ900 & Spanair A321
Hubbing For 162 Miles: HOQ-FRA-STR Ret On IQ/EW/LH
BOS-JFK-AMS-MUC: SSSS-Check And KLM 777
ATL-PIT-JFK-BOS: FL B717, JetBlue E190 And Delays
MUC-AMS-MEM-ATL On NWA A332 And 40-year-old DC-9
FRA-BKK-FRA Via CMB: SriLankan A332 & A343
BNE-SIN-DXB-MUC On Emirates B772ER & B773
2 Hours In Paradise: Hamilton Island (JQ/DJ)
BNE-SYD-BNE: Domestic Run On QF’s Oldest B747-400
Testing Qantas: SYD-MEL-SYD-BNE (B738, B763, A332)
Going Down Under: MUC-DXB-SYD On EK A332 & A345
9/11 Review: Failed Trip To LAX - Fuel Dump Pics
Surprised By NIKI's Newest A320 & Screw-up By AB
Leisure Vs. Full Service: Condor & SN Brussels
"betterFly" On LH: Business Class For 99 Euro
Weekend Transatlantic Trip (2): US A321 & B762
Transatlantic For A Weekend (1): MUC-DCA On US


[Edited 2011-07-20 11:08:39]

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: luxair747SP
Posted 2011-07-20 11:20:45 and read 26027 times.

Hi PH

another very nice and detailed TR about an excellence experience.
The service upfront on LX is for sure something special, and the meal looked very tasty.
The crew of your flight also seemed to be top.
LX proved here again that they are on par with the worldwide leading airlines.
the connection flight also had a good meal, even on this rather short sector.
Thanks a lot for sharing,
and unfortunately we didnt have more time to meet in FRA

Cheers
Johannes

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-20 11:33:20 and read 25983 times.

Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 1):
another very nice and detailed TR about an excellence experience.

Hi Johannes, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 1):
The crew of your flight also seemed to be top.

  

Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 1):
LX proved here again that they are on par with the worldwide leading airlines.

No doubt about that!

Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 1):
the connection flight also had a good meal, even on this rather short sector.

Yes, I hadn't expected to get a tray with so many items.

Quoting luxair747SP (Reply 1):
and unfortunately we didnt have more time to meet in FRA

That's true - maybe next time?


PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: ROGERBCN
Posted 2011-07-20 11:33:55 and read 25979 times.

Hola PlaneHunter!

Excellent report.

As I mentioned to you yesterday I am really looking forward to these transatlantic flights by LX as I am flying to SFO in three weeks.

The service sounded excellent and I hope I get this kind of treatment as well, on LX it is not difficult, as all my flights with them on long-haul have always been outstanding. I have done some checking and I see that the menu looks very similar to what you get in First Class, at least main courses, which look really great.

You had a great breakfast. I remember that when flying from BOM they offered you to fill a request for breakfast and it was brought to you once you wake up on a tray, very efficient, but I certainly like this trolley idea more; it looks much nicer and elegant.

I have yet to try the new business seat but it looks really comfortable and private if you get one of the solo ones.

BTW, the food you got on the MUC flight is the same they serve when flying to BCN, 1hour 45 min. flight. I have always complained about it as they should serve some hot meal on this distance, but they oblige to the 2 hours rule.

All the best and keep them coming.

Salut!

Roger

[Edited 2011-07-20 11:53:30]

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-20 11:50:26 and read 25898 times.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 3):
Hola PlaneHunter!

Excellent report.

Hola Roger, many thanks for your nice feedback!

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 3):
As I mentioned to you yesterday I am really looking forward to these transatlantic flights by LX as I am flying to SFO in three weeks.
Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 3):
The service sounded excellent and I hope I get these kind of treatment as well, on LX it is not difficult, as all my flights with them on long-haul have always been outstanding.

I'm sure you'll have a fantastic flight, I'm looking forward to your report!

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 3):
I have done some checking and I see that the menu looks very similar to what you get in First Class, at least main courses, which look really great.

Yes, there's not much room left for improvement.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 3):
I certainly like this trolley idea more; it looks much nicer and elegant.

  

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 3):
I have yet to try the new business seat but it looks really comfortable and private if you get one of the solo ones.

The solo seats are great if you travel alone.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 3):
BTW, the food you got on the MUC flight is the same they serve when flying to BCN, 1hour 45 min. flight. I have always complained about it as they should serve some hot meal on this distance, but they oblige to the 2 hours rule.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 3):
All the best and keep them coming.

Many more reports to follow! The backlog has been growing and growing.


PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: The777Man
Posted 2011-07-20 11:54:54 and read 25881 times.

Hi PlaneHunter!

Amazing report with fantastic pitures !

Very nice that you got a ride on a retro plane and amzaing pictures right after take off. Nice scenery as well of the desert and approach to LAX.

It was great to see you here and I was happy to take you around. Your brother is a very nice guy as well. I recently went to Hard Rock Cafe to have dinner with my girlfriend, which is right where we were. That whole area is VERY crowded at night. I guess you can also say that you have rode on N777UA now     Always great to meet up with you !

Swiss looks really really good here. Always nice to be in a smaller cabin and dinner looks fantastic! I don't think I ever seen such a big breakfeast ever before. It seems the service was impeccable as well. I think it will be a very long time before you have a better flight than the ZRH-LAX or LAX-ZRH on LX. Must have been a great to talk aviation with the Maitre De Cabine.

I'm surprised that they did not have seperate boarding of Business Class on the ZRH-MUC sector and the meal for that short flights is very impressive ! It seems it's better to fly LX than LH on this sector.

Thanks again for another fantastic report and the time spent of it really shows.

Looking forward to seeing you again, perhaps next year ?

The777Man

[Edited 2011-07-20 11:57:01]

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-20 12:14:39 and read 25799 times.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Amazing report with fantastic pitures !

Hi Lars, many thanks for your nice comments!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):

Very nice that you got a ride on a retro plane and amzaing pictures right after take off. Nice scenery as well of the desert and approach to LAX.

Originally I hadn't planned to write a report about this short sector, but these surprises changed my mind.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
It was great to see you here and I was happy to take you around.
Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Always great to meet up with you !

Thank you so much again for taking us around, it was great to meet you, as always.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Your brother is a very nice guy as well.

He'll be glad to hear that.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
I recently went to Hard Rock Cafe to have dinner with my girlfriend, which is right where we were. That whole area is VERY crowded at night.

Yes, I can very well imagine that.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
I guess you an also say that you have rode on N777UA now

Absolutely true!  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Swiss looks really really good here. Always nice to be in a smaller cabin and dinner looks fantastic!

I'm glad we tested both the solo seats in the big J Class section and the center seats in the "Stübli".

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
I don't think I ever seen such a big breakfeast ever before.

Well, believe me, I'm a good eater, but that was almost too much...  

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
I think it will be a very long time before you have a better flight than the ZRH-LAX or LAX-ZRH on LX.

No doubt about that.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Must have been a great to talk aviation with the Maitre De Cabine.

Absolutely, it was the most interesting conversation I have ever had with a crew member.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
It seems it's better to fly LX than LH on this sector.

I'd agree. But I don't know what LH serves on evening flights.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Thanks again for another fantastic report and the time spent of it really shows.

Thanks!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Looking forward to seeing you again, perhaps next year ?

I hope so!



PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2011-07-20 13:39:27 and read 25473 times.

Looks like you had a great flight, with some friendly crew.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Now I was really looking forward to the fillet of beef - would the meat be as tasty as on the ZRH-SFO flight? It looked quite promising and smelled mouth-watering:

Looks great.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
While my brother and I were taking pictures of the meat - and we had to take quite a few to get sharp ones - I noticed that someone was standing just behind the curtain on the left. I was able to see a nose and glasses, so I assumed it would be the Maître de Cabine watching us. Well, I was right: Some moments later, after we had started eating, he showed up next to my brother and asked with a concerned expression on his face: "Is everything alright with your meal?" alert "Of course! It's excellent!", we replied and the Maître de Cabine was visibly relieved. I guess at this point he was absolutely convinced that both of us weren't "normal" passengers...

Excellent to see that the MdC wanted to check if the meal was ok. Great service.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

...and soon turned left - it couldn't have been any better:

I can't believe how close the city is LAS. Is the city noisy with the amount of traffic flying overhead?

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-20 13:58:58 and read 25406 times.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 7):
Looks like you had a great flight, with some friendly crew.

Hi Gabriel, "friendly" is definitely an understatement.  

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 7):

Excellent to see that the MdC wanted to check if the meal was ok. Great service.

Yes, he was taking it seriously.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 7):
I can't believe how close the city is LAS. Is the city noisy with the amount of traffic flying overhead?

It is noisy in Las Vegas, but mostly due to road traffic and music from casinos, bars, restaurants, attractions etc. The planes don't contribute so much in my opinion. It's just a fraction of the traffic which flies over the city. But I guess aviation freaks perceive aviation noise in a different way than other people.


PH

[Edited 2011-07-20 13:59:48]

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: robso2
Posted 2011-07-20 16:13:41 and read 25085 times.

I wondered whether I had already read this report, but I was thankful I hadn't as I very much enjoy your style. Another excellent report with excellent photos - the spotting ones from LA were particularly good. LX looked fantastic, the new business seats much much improved over the old ones. The beef looked exquisite as well - it seems you had a great service all round. Thank you for sharing with us!

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: aflyingkiwi
Posted 2011-07-20 16:32:06 and read 25037 times.

Hi PH,

Great Report with many crisp photo's. Sounds like you had another lovely flight with Swiss and it's good to hear that the crew were very accommodating to you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...and soon turned left - it couldn't have been any better:

Absolutely fantastic shots of Las Vegas.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Now I was really looking forward to the fillet of beef - would the meat be as tasty as on the ZRH-SFO flight? It looked quite promising and smelled mouth-watering:

That steak along with all the other meals looks delicious!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Only a few minutes after takeoff, the Maître de Cabine handed out trays and I was totally impressed:

That meal looks fantastic, one of the best short-haul J meals I've ever seen.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
And another contributor is the fact that I flew on three new airlines and one new type, visited two new airports and logged a total of 143 new registrations.

Sounds like a very successful trip!

Regards,
aflyingkiwi

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: joffie
Posted 2011-07-20 17:10:40 and read 24964 times.

Hello,

Enjoyed your report very much. Looking at vegas reminds me of the great time I had there last year. The food on LX looks fantastic and service just as good. No complaints at all (so much food by the way)

Great job, made my boring thursday morning more exciting  

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: DALelite
Posted 2011-07-20 17:40:03 and read 24894 times.

Great detailed TR and pics. I am happy for you that you've had such a great time on LX. Food looks very good and there is plenty of it. So you did not take any pictures of the cabin crew?

cheers: DALelite

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: 767747
Posted 2011-07-20 18:06:02 and read 24831 times.

PlaneHunter,

I've been looking forward to this report for quite sometime!! Smile

Looks like you had a wonderful flight with Swiss on the return .. Definitely an airline I have to try. The service and food looks to be very good. I remember flying from JFK-LAX back in '02 on United in Business and I had a really good steak dish. I still remember how good it was! I was getting hungry seeing what you were offered ...

Matthew (767747)

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-20 22:55:07 and read 24478 times.

Quoting robso2 (Reply 9):
I wondered whether I had already read this report, but I was thankful I hadn't as I very much enjoy your style. Another excellent report with excellent photos - the spotting ones from LA were particularly good.

Hi R., many thanks for your comments! I'm glad you enjoyed reading.

Quoting robso2 (Reply 9):
The beef looked exquisite as well - it seems you had a great service all round.

  

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 10):
Great Report with many crisp photo's.

Thanks a lot, aflyingkiwi!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 10):
Sounds like you had another lovely flight with Swiss and it's good to hear that the crew were very accommodating to you.

Swiss definitely belongs to my favorite carriers now.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 10):
Absolutely fantastic shots of Las Vegas.

Thanks! But we really lucky, I hadn't had any idea about the takeoff direction on that day.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 10):
That meal looks fantastic, one of the best short-haul J meals I've ever seen.

I can only agree.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 10):
Sounds like a very successful trip!

  

Quoting joffie (Reply 11):
Enjoyed your report very much.
Quoting joffie (Reply 11):
Great job, made my boring thursday morning more exciting

Hi Brent, thanks a lot, good to hear!

Quoting joffie (Reply 11):
Looking at vegas reminds me of the great time I had there last year.

Nice, where did you stay at?

Quoting DALelite (Reply 12):
Great detailed TR and pics.

Many thanks, Markus!

Quoting DALelite (Reply 12):
Food looks very good and there is plenty of it.

Yes, they fed us!

Quoting DALelite (Reply 12):
So you did not take any pictures of the cabin crew?

No, I have never done so for privacy reasons. I may change that policy, though.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 13):

I've been looking forward to this report for quite sometime!! Smile

Hi Matthew, that's nice to hear!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 13):
Looks like you had a wonderful flight with Swiss on the return .. Definitely an airline I have to try.

Yes, you definitely should.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 13):
I was getting hungry seeing what you were offered ...

Not surprising, that steak picture alone can make one hungry...  




PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: moosecamel88
Posted 2011-07-20 22:58:50 and read 24476 times.

Hi PH!

Thank you for the wonderful report. I enjoyed reading it  

LX offers a superb product and it's a pity that they no longer fly SIN-BKK anymore  I've only taken LX once but I have to admit that until now, it is my favourite European airline. I'm glad that you truely enjoyed your flight. Kudos to the awesome crew for making that possible!

Hope to read more TR from you in the future!

mus

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-20 23:12:07 and read 24462 times.

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 15):
Thank you for the wonderful report. I enjoyed reading it

Hi mus, thanks a lot for your feedback!

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 15):
LX offers a superb product and it's a pity that they no longer fly SIN-BKK anymore

I fear we won't see that flight again anytime soon.

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 15):
I've only taken LX once but I have to admit that until now, it is my favourite European airline.

It has also become my favorite European airline.

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 15):
Kudos to the awesome crew for making that possible!

I would be happy to meet them again on a future flight.

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 15):
Hope to read more TR from you in the future!

Yes, many more to follow. I have made some nice trips since February. I have just started working on a report about a holiday trip to the UAE.


PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: WhereToNext
Posted 2011-07-20 23:44:53 and read 24409 times.

Another great trip report, PH! This is probably the third long-haul LX trip report in as many months that has shown their exemplary service. I had an opportunity to fly LX long-haul a few years ago and passed on the chance. I think I regret the decision now...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...and soon turned left - it couldn't have been any better:

I knew LAS was known for its scenic landings but this view is perhaps even better!

Thanks again!
WhereToNext

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-21 00:19:34 and read 24354 times.

Quoting WhereToNext (Reply 17):
Another great trip report, PH!

Hi WhereToNext, thanks for your comments!

Quoting WhereToNext (Reply 17):
This is probably the third long-haul LX trip report in as many months that has shown their exemplary service.

LX seems to offer a consistent product.

Quoting WhereToNext (Reply 17):
I had an opportunity to fly LX long-haul a few years ago and passed on the chance. I think I regret the decision now...

I'm sure there'll be another opportunity in the future.


PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: EL-AL
Posted 2011-07-21 03:58:34 and read 23978 times.

Hey PH,

Great report, great trip you had. Swiss never seems to disoppiont, even though I'm not an A340 fan.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After paying $25 for each checked bag

  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
it's one of several retro jets in the fleet. Well, the plane just wears America West’s last colorscheme

No reason to miss american west, in any way you look at it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
and went to the nice Star Alliance lounge which is equipped with 210 seats for Business Class passengers

Are there no windows in the lounge?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The Maître de Cabine made a welcome speech and also mentioned that - due to U.S. security regulations - passengers should not cluster in the aisles and in front of the lavatories during the flight.

  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
My brother and I were so impressed that we took close-up pictures of the meat. Doesn't it look perfect?

Hope not too many vegeterians on this site! (not me, i liked the meal pics)

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
During our conversation I mentioned that I post reports about my flights on the Internet and H. reacted totally different as expected: "And are there any people who read that?", he sneered. "Yes, several thousands", I replied. Then he bowed theatrically and said: "Oh, that means I have to be very kind to you!" No doubt, that man had a special sense of humor! Nevertheless, they found it quite interesting to hear about my policy to try as many airlines as possible.

That's a nice move. Maybe I should give it a try myself once.

Thank you for shearing, it was great.

Jonathan

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: BrouAviation
Posted 2011-07-21 04:16:29 and read 23938 times.

Very nice report! Love the pictures. LX remains my top favorite carrier, glad you enjoyed them too.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas"

Ridiculous indeed! I was flying with them on last Christmas Eve, just after heavy snows messed up European air traffic for several days. Things had just cleared up a bit, I arrived finally at my destination with 72 hours of delay, and then they played this too during deboarding, and I was like "OH, for crying out loud..?!?!" Who would come up with such a silly idea?!

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-21 04:36:47 and read 23881 times.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19):
Great report, great trip you had.
Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19):
Thank you for shearing, it was great.

Thank you, Jonathan! Good to hear you enjoyed it.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19):
Swiss never seems to disoppiont, even though I'm not an A340 fan.

Usually I prefer more powerful planes, but nevertheless, taking off on a heavy A340 classic is always an amazing experience.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19):
No reason to miss american west, in any way you look at it.

Well, I only had one flight on America West and that wasn't that bad.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19):
Are there no windows in the lounge?

No airside window.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19):
Hope not too many vegeterians on this site! (not me, i liked the meal pics)

I thought about that, but I'm sure they quickly scroll further down.  

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19):
That's a nice move. Maybe I should give it a try myself once.

Yes, absolutely.

Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 20):
Very nice report! Love the pictures.

Thanks, BrouAviation!

Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 20):
Ridiculous indeed! I was flying with them on last Christmas Eve, just after heavy snows messed up European air traffic for several days. Things had just cleared up a bit, I arrived finally at my destination with 72 hours of delay, and then they played this too during deboarding, and I was like "OH, for crying out loud..?!?!" Who would come up with such a silly idea?!

Wow, that was a bad idea indeed. I can absolutely understand your reaction!


PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: BrouAviation
Posted 2011-07-21 04:48:03 and read 23848 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
Wow, that was a bad idea indeed. I can absolutely understand your reaction!

Then you can also imagine my reaction when I left the plane, entered the terminal at ZRH and they played 'Let it snow!'.      

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: N178UA
Posted 2011-07-21 05:05:11 and read 23824 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
So how was the meat after all? Just one word: e-x-c-e-l-l-e-n-t! No doubt, it was one of the best steaks I have ever eaten. And the potatoes, the broccoli and the herb butter tasted great, too.

My brother and I were so impressed that we took close-up pictures of the meat. Doesn't it look perfect?

Hi PH

Excellent TR as usual! I enjoy reading your comments and viewing your bro's pictures.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
So how was the meat after all? Just one word: e-x-c-e-l-l-e-n-t! No doubt, it was one of the best steaks I have ever eaten. And the potatoes, the broccoli and the herb butter tasted great, too.

My brother and I were so impressed that we took close-up pictures of the meat. Doesn't it look perfect?

Like other have commented. The meat picture looks amazing! In fact , all your Swiss flight catering looks superb!

Can a 190cm person fully lie flat on new LX J seat, or the seat may fell short. This is the case on Etihad new J which isn't much of a improvement.

Sorry to hear you couldn't get on the colourful flower/SFO colour scheme plane. I heard she is going to get repainted by August....that is too soon and sad.... 

Cheers
Sam

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-21 05:07:57 and read 23820 times.

Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 22):
Then you can also imagine my reaction when I left the plane, entered the terminal at ZRH and they played 'Let it snow!'.

Oh no, how bad can it get? These would have been nice scenes for a movie.  




PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-21 05:15:27 and read 23813 times.

Quoting N178UA (Reply 23):
Hi PH

Excellent TR as usual! I enjoy reading your comments and viewing your bro's pictures.

Hi Sam, many thanks for your comments! I'm glad to you enjoyed it.

It seems we were posting at the same time some minutes ago.

Quoting N178UA (Reply 23):
The meat picture looks amazing! In fact , all your Swiss flight catering looks superb!

Yes, LX's catering was outstanding on this flight.

Quoting N178UA (Reply 23):
Can a 190cm person fully lie flat on new LX J seat, or the seat may fell short.

My brother is such a tall guy and he didn't have any problems.

Quoting N178UA (Reply 23):
Sorry to hear you couldn't get on the colourful flower/SFO colour scheme plane.

Well, it would have been the icing on the cake. But I have been lucky several times with special planes in the last few months, so I don't complain.

Quoting N178UA (Reply 23):
I heard she is going to get repainted by August....that is too soon and sad....

Yes, unfortunately. It will be missed.


PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: SloAir
Posted 2011-07-21 12:35:11 and read 23435 times.

Hi PH,

the long awaited finish of your February USA trip, I was looking forward to this. I am glad you had a very positive experience with Swiss, I can't wait to fly with them again, whether it will be in Y, C or F (but probably in Y). It was nice reading your comments and remembering my trip with LX and all the nice things I have experienced.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
n the background you can see a nice bunch of Boeing 737-600s operated by defense contractor EG&G and mostly used for shuttle flights to the Nevada Test Site, most notably Area 51:

I saw a lot of those taking off and landing at LAS. I believe they are called JANET - Just another non existing thing  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
On final approach to LAX - always such a pleasure! Note the American Boeing 767 in "stealth mode":

Despite being at LAX a couple of times I have never actually landed at the airport. But it is high on my aviation to-do list.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
(I'll call her S.),

I guess because they only have their first name initial on their name tags before the surname? The interesting thing I noticed on my flights was, that in business they had their name written with the first name initial and then the surename, (F.Surname), but in F they had their full name written. But maybe only the Maître de Cabine has it's full name, I'm not sure.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
My brother and I were so impressed that we took close-up pictures of the meat. Doesn't it look perfect?

It looks amazing.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"I guess that's on the San Francisco route", M/C said. "No, it went to Miami today", I replied which astonished him.

He must have been shocked you knew that  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
My brother said that H. had placed two bags of this kind at our seats. Very nice!

That is a great touch, well done Swiss!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, what surprised me was the fact that the First Class lavatory was neither larger nor better equipped than the (rather ordinary) Business Class lavatories.

The only difference I noticed was that there are cotton towels instead of paper once.

It was great following your trip and you sure did have a great time and itinerary. Hope you will be able to clear your backlog of reports and share some more interesting stories with us soon.

Blaž

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: akhmad
Posted 2011-07-21 12:53:16 and read 23430 times.

Hi PH,

This is what I call ‘la crème de la crème’ of your reports. Gosh, how I wished the reading experience to never end. I am kind of re-experiencing my J trip from CAI to AMS. None of the exquisite details of your LX flights was left underexposed.

I am running out superlatives to describe your report. But one thing I can assure you, I am honored to join you all the way along.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Where else do you find such a scenery at an airport?

Err, LAS?   


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
it's one of several retro jets in the fleet. Well, the plane just wears America West’s last colorscheme, but it's still something special in the carrier’s 93-strong A319 fleet

I hope you will be flying GA retro jet!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Can you name them?
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
PSA Airlines, Piedmont Airlines, America West Airlines and Allegheny Airlines.

Hey, that is not fair! I was about to get excited about your quiz.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
mostly used for shuttle flights to the Nevada Test Site, most notably Area 51:

Not bookable, I am afraid.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Non-alcoholic drinks were served free of charge

Good to know.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Note the American Boeing 767 in "stealth mode

Great shot!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
we met Marilyn Monroe...

OMG, is she resurrected?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
the famous In-N-Out

Why can I not stop thinking of July next year?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I guess by this point he was already assuming that I wasn’t a "normal" passenger.   

That is one of the consequences of offering outstanding on-board service!  


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
That section is unofficially called "Stübli"

What a cute name!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
What I found irritating was that the famous Christmas song "I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas" was played for a few seconds after boarding had been completed

At least you had to deal with it only for that section. Can you imagine what M/C has to endure? 


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Doesn't it look perfect?

  



Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I noticed that someone was standing just behind the curtain on the left. I was able to see a nose and glasses, so I assumed it would be the Maître de Cabine watching us

I was hoping that our M/C Daniel on CAI-ZRH flight was serving you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
And that's what I found there

Ah, that is so sweet!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Well, he also told me about a special passenger who was permanently complaining about the seat and permanently referring to allegedly better products on other carriers. "I have tolerated his criticism for a long time, but then I spoke my mind!", M/C said and smiled.

I am curious who this ungrateful person could be?   


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"The captain will be expecting you on the flight deck after landing."

  


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
When you look out of the window and don't see anything."

   Exactly our experience while landing in AMS from DXB.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"Oh no, not again!"

See?   


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I wanted to use the transfer time for spotting, so I didn't accompany my brother to the lounge and went to the Dock A gate area instead

I hope LX would expand the lounge with a spotter friendly area.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Only a few minutes after takeoff, the Maître de Cabine handed out trays and I was totally impressed:

Real meal tray and cutlery set. Very impressive!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Grand Canyon & More: Scenic Flight On Dornier 228
San Francisco Sunshine...and A Frontier Fiasco
Fully Flat Bed to SFO: SWISS' New Business Class

PH, what a set of marvelous reports throughout! Each one of them has been indulging and a great pleasure to read. I am so glad to meet you in reality in FRA.

I look forward to your future installments. Call me demanding, but I cannot wait for reading your experience with GA.

Best wishes,
Suryo

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2011-07-21 13:35:23 and read 23387 times.

Hi, PH,

really good to follow you´re final US west coast story now.
Superb well done, also the pictures, an exact feeling what´s going on at LX´s biz product these days.
Also the staff impressions, really good.

Looking for more stories from you´re hand, you know.
Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-21 14:05:11 and read 23334 times.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 26):
the long awaited finish of your February USA trip, I was looking forward to this.

Hi Blaž, thanks a lot for your comments!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 26):
I saw a lot of those taking off and landing at LAS. I believe they are called JANET - Just another non existing thing

That's right, the origin of the name "Janet" is quite obscure, it seems.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 26):
I guess because they only have their first name initial on their name tags before the surname? The interesting thing I noticed on my flights was, that in business they had their name written with the first name initial and then the surename, (F.Surname), but in F they had their full name written. But maybe only the Maître de Cabine has it's full name, I'm not sure.

Well, I have used the initials in any case for privacy reasons. But what you mentioned is quite interesting. I remember that one flight attendant on the ZRH-SFO flight had his first name initial plus surname on the tag, while S. had both first name and surname on the tag. Well, First Class was empty on LAX-ZRH - probably S. would have worked in F Class? Unfortunately, I don't know about the others.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 26):
He must have been shocked you knew that

He looked quite surprised...

Quoting SloAir (Reply 26):
That is a great touch, well done Swiss!

Probably those little chocolate bags are First Class items?

Quoting SloAir (Reply 26):
The only difference I noticed was that there are cotton towels instead of paper once.

Interesting, thanks.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 26):
Hope you will be able to clear your backlog of reports and share some more interesting stories with us soon.

Well, I have started working on the next report about a holiday trip to the UAE.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
This is what I call ‘la crème de la crème’ of your reports. Gosh, how I wished the reading experience to never end. I am kind of re-experiencing my J trip from CAI to AMS. None of the exquisite details of your LX flights was left underexposed.
Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
I am running out superlatives to describe your report. But one thing I can assure you, I am honored to join you all the way along.

Hi Suryo, thank you so much for your kind words, I feel honored.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
I hope you will be flying GA retro jet!

Oh yes, would be great!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
Hey, that is not fair! I was about to get excited about your quiz.

I'm sorry, I should have waited with the solution.  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
Not bookable, I am afraid.

No, definitely not. But it would be interesting to fly there...

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):

OMG, is she resurrected?

She looks quite real, doesn't she? There were many "stars" hanging around at the Walk of Fame.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
Why can I not stop thinking of July next year?

Would be great to have an a.net meeting there.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
What a cute name!

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
At least you had to deal with it only for that section. Can you imagine what M/C has to endure?

Absolutely!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
I am curious who this ungrateful person could be?

That must have been a very "special" guy...   

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
I hope LX would expand the lounge with a spotter friendly area.

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
PH, what a set of marvelous reports throughout! Each one of them has been indulging and a great pleasure to read. I am so glad to meet you in reality in FRA.

Thank you again! Your feedback is always highly appreciated. And I'm also glad about meeting you!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
I look forward to your future installments. Call me demanding, but I cannot wait for reading your experience with GA.

Well, the flight is still some months away. I hope to get one of the factory fresh 738s with PTVs.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 28):

really good to follow you´re final US west coast story now.
Superb well done, also the pictures, an exact feeling what´s going on at LX´s biz product these days.

Hi Markus, thanks for commenting! Good to hear you liked it!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 28):
Looking for more stories from you´re hand, you know.

Many more reports to follow.


PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: initious
Posted 2011-07-21 21:50:52 and read 23073 times.

Hi PH,

A wonderful report once again! I thoroughly enjoyed your report on LX and they seem a very promising airline!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After checking all possible flight options on the Miles & More website, it was clear that we would try SWISS' new intercontinental Business Class with lie-flat seats. That innovative product was available on all A330-300s and a few A340-300s. Destinations served by the retrofitted A343s in early February were San Francisco, Boston, Hong Kong, Los Angeles and New York (once weekly).

Great choice! I am also impressed by their business class seats.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
single window seats on the flight to SFO and center seats in the two-row forward section (so-called "Stübli") on the return flight from LAX.

What excites me most is the "throne seat" at 11A (IIRC) that has 2 platforms by your side.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I hadn't been expecting too much from that upcoming standard US Airways A319 flight, but I was positively surprised when N838AW showed up at our gate - it's one of several retro jets in the fleet. Well, the plane just wears America West’s last colorscheme, but it's still something special in the carrier’s 93-strong A319 fleet:

Great surprise!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I noticed one friendly flight attendant when I entered the cabin, the others apparently weren't in good mood. The leather seats were okay...

Not a very good way to start a flight!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
In the background you can see a nice bunch of Boeing 737-600s operated by defense contractor EG&G and mostly used for shuttle flights to the Nevada Test Site, most notably Area 51:

This actually reminds me of one of the missions in flight simulator where you fly a B738 to Area 51.  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
No PTVs and not even fold-out screens - that's what a US Airways A319 cabin looks like:

Looks like a very depressing cabin...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Finally, we went to the famous In-N-Out at South Sepulveda Boulevard, took a seat outside..

A must go at LAX! Did you order a 4x4? :P

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Star Alliance lounge

Looks decent enough, although not the best.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
She was quite reserved and her smile appeared artificial which didn't leave a good first impression.

Ah, yet another bad way to start a flight but glad the rest of the crew were alright!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Now I was really looking forward to the fillet of beef - would the meat be as tasty as on the ZRH-SFO flight? It looked quite promising and smelled mouth-watering:

I was literally watering at my mouth when I saw this!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Some passengers had been lying across several seats with their feet extending into the aisle, so I had to watch out.

Guess that's what I shall do when I get on an empty long haul economy flight, minus the feet extending into the aisle part.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I jokingly asked why Swiss hadn't sent sister ship HB-JMJ (San Francisco livery) to Los Angeles as so often recently. "I guess that's on the San Francisco route", M/C said. "No, it went to Miami today", I replied which astonished him. He asked whether I work in the aviation business and I told him about my hobby and the fact that I write reports about my flights.

I can imagine the expression on his face!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Then he asked me what I'd like to eat and since I was undecided, he suggested: "Would you like to try a little bit of everything?" That was a good idea and I agreed. After all cold items had been placed on the tray, S. brought a plate with hot items. In addition, different kinds of bread and rolls were offered. Now that's what I call a decent breakfast:

The breakfast looks marvellous too! I'm now craving for so many things just by reading your report.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We touched down smoothly after a flying time of 10 hours and 52 minutes. And now believe it or not - while we were taxiing to the gate, "I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas" was played again for a few moments and I heard H. saying from behind: "Oh no, not again!"

Someone must have missed that song loads!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
No matter if cold cuts, cheese, antipasti, salmon, cucumber salad or chocolate mousse - everything tasted great, what a fancy little meal!

Very nice meal for a regional flight!

Regards,
Daniel

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: infodesk
Posted 2011-07-21 22:03:08 and read 23055 times.

Hi PH,

Wow, great to hear about another successful flight on LX.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The flight attendants set the tables after a while and offered crackers and drinks. In contrast to numerous other airlines, Swiss doesn't serve nuts or crackers in small bowls.

This does surprise me somewhat – the plastic bag of crakcers on the crisp tablecloth doesn’t quite go together.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Anyway, before returning to my seat, I mentioned that I wanted to grab a small snack. "We also have big snacks", H. ensured. I was happy with some chocolates:

Hope you took a delicious Kägi Fret!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
. placed a tray with empty plates and bowls on my table and said: "This is our low-calorie breakfast. Enjoy your meal!" That guy was really funny!
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
: "How do you know that you are on approach to Zurich?" Of course we had no idea. "When you look out of the window and don't see anything."

H does indeed sound like an amusing man!

I was most impressed by the C-Class spread you got on the ZRH-MUC leg considering how short it is. Well done Swiss!

Nice photos of Las Vegas after take off too, thanks to your brother

Happy flying
Infodesk
  

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-21 23:10:11 and read 23019 times.

Quoting initious (Reply 30):
A wonderful report once again! I thoroughly enjoyed your report on LX and they seem a very promising airline!

Hi Daniel, many thanks for your comments!

Quoting initious (Reply 30):
What excites me most is the "throne seat" at 11A (IIRC) that has 2 platforms by your side.

There are five "thrones" in the J Class cabin.

Quoting initious (Reply 30):
This actually reminds me of one of the missions in flight simulator where you fly a B738 to Area 51.

Interesting - what kind of secrets did you discover there? Did you have to line up behind flying saucers?  

Quoting initious (Reply 30):
Looks like a very depressing cabin...

  

Quoting initious (Reply 30):
I was literally watering at my mouth when I saw this!

It was dinner time at SIN when you wrote this, right?  

Quoting initious (Reply 30):
The breakfast looks marvellous too! I'm now craving for so many things just by reading your report.

I'm sorry!  

Quoting initious (Reply 30):
Someone must have missed that song loads!

  

Quoting infodesk (Reply 31):
Wow, great to hear about another successful flight on LX.

Hi Hannah, thanks for your feedback! The return trip turned out to be a great success indeed.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 31):
Nice photos of Las Vegas after take off too, thanks to your brother

Thanks!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 31):
This does surprise me somewhat – the plastic bag of crakcers on the crisp tablecloth doesn’t quite go together.

No, that needs to be changed.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 31):
Hope you took a delicious Kägi Fret!

I didn't, unfortunately.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 31):
H does indeed sound like an amusing man!

  

Quoting infodesk (Reply 31):
I was most impressed by the C-Class spread you got on the ZRH-MUC leg considering how short it is. Well done Swiss!

Yes, I can only agree.



PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: FlyingFinn76
Posted 2011-07-22 00:46:39 and read 22946 times.

Hi PH!

What a wonderful flight home you had in Swiss business class. This just goes to show how the cabin crew are the real makers or breakers on any flight. A good seat and good food goes a long way, but in the end it is the crew ho matters the most. You got very lucky this time, your crew sounds just wonderful! I bet you could've just stayed onboard for another flight.

A very nice conclusion to what probably was a very nice trip to California and Las Vegas!

Some beautiful pictures of Nevada and LAX as well in there! As much as I dislike the LA area I can't help but admit that it does look very pretty with that omnipresent sunshine.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Las Vegas Sands Boeing 767-300ER in the background:

Hah, that AA S80 is just dwarfed by the buildings on the background. You are right saying that they indeed are huge!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The leather seats were okay...

Interesting, somehow I wouldn't have expected this kind of seats on US. But they look quite comfortable actually.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Finally, we went to the famous In-N-Out at South Sepulveda Boulevard, took a seat outside..

Ahh, In-N-Out, probably the best burgers I've ever eaten!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Here's a "Stübli" cabin shot - rows 4 and 5, that's it:

Now that looks cozy and very private! Definitely a good place to sit and enjoy the flight.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The shrimps and the sweet and spicy sauce as well as the salad and the oil dressing tasted very good, but the Chinese noodles weren't exactly to my taste.

Looks very tasty, especially since I'm a sucker for sea food and especially prawns. You are making me hungry, luckily it's almost lunch hour!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
My brother and I were so impressed that we took close-up pictures of the meat. Doesn't it look perfect?

Oh yes! You'd expect that kind of cuts to be served in an upscale steak house, to have it onboard an aircraft is just amazing!

I wonder what kind of food they served up in First, since it'll take quite an effort to top what you got in business!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"Is everything alright with your meal?"    "Of course! It's excellent!", we replied and the Maître de Cabine was visibly relieved.

Heh, he probably was thinking that you were taking photos to file together with your complaint or to show your friends back home about the horrible meat  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Now that's what I call a decent breakfast:

That's quite extensive! I bet you weren't hungry after eating all that.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Only a few minutes after takeoff, the Maître de Cabine handed out trays and I was totally impressed:

Indeed, that's very impressive considering it's such a short flight! Well done LX!

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: initious
Posted 2011-07-22 01:38:07 and read 22864 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 32):
Interesting - what kind of secrets did you discover there? Did you have to line up behind flying saucers?

No secrets actually, but there was a flying saucer that flew past your plane when enroute, and your radio communications gets mixed up for a while then it goes back to normal. Pretty boring. :P

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 32):
It was dinner time at SIN when you wrote this, right?

It was lunch time, just about to have my lunch when I wrote it. We're only 6 hours ahead.  

Regards,
Daniel

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: LONGisland89
Posted 2011-07-22 11:07:47 and read 22617 times.

Excellent trip report!!! Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't stübli Swiss-German for stubby?  

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: DFWHeavy
Posted 2011-07-22 11:12:54 and read 22611 times.

Great Report.

One Correction: The flights used to Area 51 are 732s, not 736 as you indicated.

Cheers

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: flightsimboy
Posted 2011-07-22 18:58:22 and read 22363 times.

Plane Hunter, I'm starting to get dizzy trying to keep up with all your trip reports!! It seems only yesterday I was reading about your LH A340-600 trip report from SFO to MUC!!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After paying $25 for each checked bag, we got our boarding passes with the pre-selected seats in the second last row.

Paying for checked bags....paying for food on board....Just crazy!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We took off from runway 1R...
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...and soon turned left - it couldn't have been any better:

Such amazing shots of Las Vegas from the air!! Your brother managed to capture some amazing views!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
On final approach to LAX - always such a pleasure! Note the American Boeing 767 in "stealth mode":

Los Angeles has to be the best place to land, with amazing views from the air.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

Finally, we went to the famous In-N-Out at South Sepulveda Boulevard, took a seat outside..
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Later in the afternoon we went to the spotting spot at Imperial Hill on the opposite side, enjoyed the warm February sun and many interesting movements:

Wow, both amazing spotting locations. I'm assuming the In-N-Out burger place has the approaches to the Northern runways at Los Angeles? Did you have a super zoom lens for Imperial Hill or were those taken with a normal camera? Is it easy to get there, and not have to worry about being hassled by security?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
First delivered to Austrian Airlines as OE-LAL in 03/1999

Wow you may not have flown on the San Francisco livery, but you sure flew on a bird that one sported the " Wieiner Philharmoniker" livery!!. I have it in the 1:200 scale and it's gorgeous!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The Maître de Cabine made a welcome speech and also mentioned that - due to U.S. security regulations - passengers should not cluster in the aisles and in front of the lavatories during the flight. Yeah sure

Sigh!!   

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Interestingly, a very friendly female flight attendant in the 40s (I'll call her S.), mostly serving in my aisle, continuously addressed me by name. In contrast, my brother didn't receive the same personalized treatment by the flight attendants serving in his aisle.

Such descrepancies in service in the same cabin, and that too on Swiss!! Quite bizzare.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
While my brother and I were taking pictures of the meat - and we had to take quite a few to get sharp ones - I noticed that someone was standing just behind the curtain on the left. I was able to see a nose and glasses, so I assumed it would be the Maître de Cabine watching us. Well, I was right: Some moments later, after we had started eating, he showed up next to my brother and asked with a concerned expression on his face: "Is everything alright with your meal?" alert "Of course! It's excellent!", we replied and the Maître de Cabine was visibly relieved. I guess at this point he was absolutely convinced that both of us weren't "normal" passengers... Wink
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
During our conversation I mentioned that I post reports about my flights on the Internet and H. reacted totally different as expected: "And are there any people who read that?", he sneered. "Yes, several thousands", I replied. Then he bowed theatrically and said: "Oh, that means I have to be very kind to you!" No doubt, that man had a special sense of humor! thumbsup Nevertheless, they found it quite interesting to hear about my policy to try as many airlines as possible.

I am sure the Maître de Cabine and his crew in J must have had something to talk about on the bus from the aircraft to the terminal  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I noticed that Swiss belongs to the carriers which display accident sites of maritime disasters on the map:

That map is like the old Etihad ones, while the aircraft tracking in the one below is so Emirates, kind of like a combination of the two.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
My brother said that H. had placed two bags of this kind at our seats. Very nice!

Very nice touch!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After I had finished eating, M/C came by with good news: "The captain will be expecting you on the flight deck after landing." thumbsup

You almost earned Royalty status on that flight. No wonder Swiss is now on your list of top carriers.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
On approach, shortly before the flight attendants took their seats, H. passed by again, expressed his dislike of the weather in Zurich and told us a joke: "How do you know that you are on approach to Zurich?" Of course we had no idea. "When you look out of the window and don't see anything." Wink

That is quite true. At Zurich one hazy morning while sitting in front of the large glass windows shrouded in fog, all I could hear was the low whining of aircraft engines, that got louder as it approached but of course you could see nothing until at the very last minute the nose, cockpit and part of the front fuselage became clear as it pulled up right to the window. Haven't experienced that anywhere else!!

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: LONGisland89
Posted 2011-07-22 22:22:50 and read 22258 times.

Quoting DFWHeavy (Reply 36):
One Correction: The flights used to Area 51 are 732s, not 736 as you indicated.

Actually the flights used to Area 51 are now 737-600s. I'm not sure what they did with the 200s or when exactly they changed but it's been 600s for at least a year.

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-24 11:32:45 and read 21837 times.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):
What a wonderful flight home you had in Swiss business class.

Thanks for your comments, P.!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):
This just goes to show how the cabin crew are the real makers or breakers on any flight. A good seat and good food goes a long way, but in the end it is the crew ho matters the most.

Absolutely true.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):
I bet you could've just stayed onboard for another flight.

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):
As much as I dislike the LA area I can't help but admit that it does look very pretty with that omnipresent sunshine.

I have been there many times and believe me, there are really nice areas.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):
I wonder what kind of food they served up in First, since it'll take quite an effort to top what you got in business!

Yes, it does indeed take an effort to top the J Class food.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):
Heh, he probably was thinking that you were taking photos to file together with your complaint or to show your friends back home about the horrible meat

I guess he didn't feel comfortable at all.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):
I bet you weren't hungry after eating all that.

No, definitely not.

Quoting initious (Reply 34):
It was lunch time, just about to have my lunch when I wrote it. We're only 6 hours ahead.

Hey Daniel, of course I'm aware of that. I have no idea why I wrote dinner instead of lunch.  

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 35):
Excellent trip report!!!

Many thanks!

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 35):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't stübli Swiss-German for stubby?

No, Stübli means something like "cozy room".

Quoting DFWHeavy (Reply 36):
Great Report.

Thanks!

Quoting DFWHeavy (Reply 36):
One Correction: The flights used to Area 51 are 732s, not 736 as you indicated.
Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 38):
Actually the flights used to Area 51 are now 737-600s. I'm not sure what they did with the 200s or when exactly they changed but it's been 600s for at least a year.

EG&G indeed switched to 737-600s (former Air China planes). The 732s have been retired.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 37):
Plane Hunter, I'm starting to get dizzy trying to keep up with all your trip reports!! It seems only yesterday I was reading about your LH A340-600 trip report from SFO to MUC!!!

Hi flightsimboy, thanks for your feedback, good to hear from you!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 37):
Paying for checked bags....paying for food on board....Just crazy!!

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 37):
Such amazing shots of Las Vegas from the air!! Your brother managed to capture some amazing views!!

Thanks, he'll be glad to hear that.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 37):
Los Angeles has to be the best place to land, with amazing views from the air.

No doubt about that. LAX is my favorite US airport.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 37):
I'm assuming the In-N-Out burger place has the approaches to the Northern runways at Los Angeles?

That's right.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 37):
Did you have a super zoom lens for Imperial Hill or were those taken with a normal camera?

The pictures were taken with a standard Lumix TZ-10 (12 x optical zoom).

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 37):
Is it easy to get there, and not have to worry about being hassled by security?

It's easy to get there by car, but you can also go there by bus. And no, don't expect any hassles. You can find two pictures of the place in this report (scroll down to the bottom):
Pacific Coast Jaunt: 3 Carriers, E120, E140 & Fog (by PlaneHunter Jan 30 2010 in Trip Reports)

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 37):
Wow you may not have flown on the San Francisco livery, but you sure flew on a bird that one sported the " Wieiner Philharmoniker" livery!!. I have it in the 1:200 scale and it's gorgeous!!

Good choice. Yes, it was a great colorscheme.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 37):
I am sure the Maître de Cabine and his crew in J must have had something to talk about on the bus from the aircraft to the terminal

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 37):
You almost earned Royalty status on that flight.

Well, almost.  



PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: OA260
Posted 2011-07-24 13:00:16 and read 21771 times.

Hey great report . Love anything Swiss  

Nice meals Im glad I have my dinner on because Im very hungry after seeing those  

Love the Nespresso cups I have the exact same collection myself.

Nice photos of your whole trip .

Regards

Philip  

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: AlwaysOnAPlane
Posted 2011-07-24 14:31:55 and read 21665 times.

Hi PH.

More good stuff for us here. I really enjoyed this part. It would not be hard to hang around the In-N-Out all day for me. Next time I will venture up to Imperial Hill also. Looks like a good vantage point.

Good to see more excellent stuff from LX. Do they know any other way? I share your positive feelings as I have said before.

Thanks for the full series you have posted. Excellent reading and thanks to your bro for his skills with the camera equipment.

Cheers, Lee.

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: Sultanils
Posted 2011-07-25 03:02:12 and read 21359 times.

Hello PH!

A nice closure part of your latest series. LAS from up above looks really great, you took a good 'gamble' and were sitting on the right side. LX did not disappoint with its nice F/A's and lovely food and of course your seat in the 'Stübli'. A great end to a great journey I'd say!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
What I found irritating was that the famous Christmas song "I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas" was played for a few seconds

i can imagine it being February  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
after a typical A340 classic style takeoff roll

Nice & gently I assume?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
and asked whether I could have a look at the flight deck after landing.

Nice to see it worked out!

   Sultanils

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2011-07-25 05:50:21 and read 21245 times.

Hi PH,

Nice final installment, good pix and narative, thanks for sharing.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Where else do you find such a scenery at an airport?

- Indeed, it is a wonderful view.

Food looks excellent just as I would expect from LX, I do think they are pretty much a class act.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Interestingly, there wasn't a separate boarding announcement for Business Class passengers, so we had to wait in queue for a while.

- I have experienced this each time travelling through ZRH on european routes, once I tried to board early on and was asked to step aside until economy boarding was complete!

Regards

Mark

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: FlyKev
Posted 2011-07-25 16:23:43 and read 20975 times.

PlaneHunter,

Fantastic report with some really enjoyable photographs.
The service on Swiss looks beyond amazing, as does the food and seat. I hope that I will get the chance to experience this product in the future.

Thanks for taking the time to share your trip with us and I look forward greatly to your next report.

Kev.

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: gjunnar
Posted 2011-07-26 00:19:15 and read 20822 times.

A simply fantastic trip report! Thanks a lot. LX's biz product looks flawless (save some minor details) - I can't wait to try them on one of my future flights.

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: RvXKaz
Posted 2011-07-26 21:44:03 and read 20453 times.

Hi PlaneHunter,

I thoroughly enjoyed this TR. Thanks so much for the livid details onboard and I love the personal touch you've added in your reflections that made this report a most interesting read!

I am quite surprised they serve a free drink on a US domestic flight actually. But great views of take-off and enroute to LAX! Very nice pictures your brother has taken!

Though there were some minor slips in service as you mentioned, I am glad to hear that you've broke the ice with the crew and they turned out to be a really nice bunch. The flight attendants on your SWISS flight are really interesting characters and H really seems like a guy with a funny sense of humour. The M/C also seems like a really nice guy dedicated to his job too! His arrangement with the flight deck was awesome!

The beef really looks tandalizing indeed! Yum yum! The chocolates were a really nice touch. Breakfast portion looks generous too!

On your flight to Munich, I am most impressed by your meal too! The presentation looks very good indeed and what a nice assortment of goodies on your tray!

I am most glad to hear you've had a wonderful SWISS experience on both the onward and inbound journeys and thanks for sharing your experience! It was really nice reading your experiences!

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: MSS658
Posted 2011-07-27 06:03:21 and read 20344 times.

Wonderfull trip report. The domestic portion really reminds me of my US domestic trips. I'm quite amazed by LX's service, a call to try them out soon or later.  

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: SPLTA
Posted 2011-07-27 06:18:00 and read 20334 times.

Hello PH,

Excellent read, thanks for sharing!

I loved the pictures of LAS and LAX.

Glad to hear you had awsome flights on LX. Its' longhaul product seems really great, but nothing else expected. I like the interiors and seats both in F and C class. They look simply yet classy. Much more to my taste than "wealthy" interiors/seats on some Middle East carriers, if you know what I mean. The meals look really tasty and nicely presented, as well. But most of all, you were lucky to have encountered top class cabin crew. It must have been a real pleasure both to be served by, as wel as, have some interesting chats with them. Also it's great you were invited to the cockpit, really nice touch.

Once again, great TR.

Best regards,
SPLTA

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: moosecamel88
Posted 2011-07-27 06:55:30 and read 20294 times.

Hi PH!

Thank you for taking your time to share with us your wonderful experience with LX. All i can say is WOW! LX Business Class looks amazing! I really like the seat design and colour. And I can tell that you thoroughly enjoyed your time flying LX!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
In contrast to numerous other airlines, Swiss doesn't serve nuts or crackers in small bowls.

Hmm, wouldn't it better if the do?  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
So how was the meat after all? Just one word: e-x-c-e-l-l-e-n-t! No doubt, it was one of the best steaks I have ever eaten. And the potatoes, the broccoli and the herb butter tasted great, too.

YES!! I have to agree! That's the best looking pice of meat I've seen served on a plane! And I'm glad you enjoyed it! I wouldn't mine if you took more pictures of it from different angles. HEHE!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
During our conversation I mentioned that I post reports about my flights on the Internet and H. reacted totally different as expected: "And are there any people who read that?", he sneered. "Yes, several thousands", I replied. Then he bowed theatrically and said: "Oh, that means I have to be very kind to you!" No doubt, that man had a special sense of humor! thumbsup Nevertheless, they found it quite interesting to hear about my policy to try as many airlines as possible.

HAHA! I love cabin crew who are full of warmth and whom you can easily joke with!
  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
My brother said that H. had placed two bags of this kind at our seats. Very nice!

That certainly is a nice gesture!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
What I'll definitely keep in mind is the fact that US Airways charges $25 for a checked bag - other airlines charge less or nothing.

YIKES!!

Cheers,
mus

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-07-28 23:46:33 and read 19979 times.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 40):
Hey great report . Love anything Swiss

Hi Phil, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 40):
Nice meals Im glad I have my dinner on because Im very hungry after seeing those

Yes, I agree, these pictures have made me hungry several times...

Quoting OA260 (Reply 40):
Love the Nespresso cups I have the exact same collection myself.

Nice! Are they Swiss-branded? Where did you get them?

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 41):
More good stuff for us here. I really enjoyed this part.
Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 41):
Thanks for the full series you have posted. Excellent reading and thanks to your bro for his skills with the camera equipment.

Many thanks for your comments, Lee!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 41):
It would not be hard to hang around the In-N-Out all day for me. Next time I will venture up to Imperial Hill also. Looks like a good vantage point.

I can only recommend to go there, it's a lovely place. And you should also have a look at the pretty houses up there.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 42):
A nice closure part of your latest series.

Thanks for commenting, Nils!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 42):
LAS from up above looks really great, you took a good 'gamble' and were sitting on the right side.

Yes, we were truly lucky.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 42):
Nice & gently I assume?

  

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 43):
Nice final installment, good pix and narative, thanks for sharing.

Thank you for replying, Mark!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 43):
Food looks excellent just as I would expect from LX, I do think they are pretty much a class act.

That's definitely true.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 43):
I have experienced this each time travelling through ZRH on european routes, once I tried to board early on and was asked to step aside until economy boarding was complete!

Interesting, so it wasn't just an exception in my case.

Btw - when can we expect to see your next report? I'm looking forward to your TAP long-haul review.

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 44):
Fantastic report with some really enjoyable photographs.

Many thanks, Kev! I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 44):
The service on Swiss looks beyond amazing, as does the food and seat. I hope that I will get the chance to experience this product in the future.

Yes, you'd enjoy LX!

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 44):
Thanks for taking the time to share your trip with us and I look forward greatly to your next report.

Thanks again! Virgin Atlantic and UAE report to be online soon!

Quoting gjunnar (Reply 45):
A simply fantastic trip report! Thanks a lot.

Many thanks, gjunnar! That's nice to hear!

Quoting gjunnar (Reply 45):
LX's biz product looks flawless (save some minor details) - I can't wait to try them on one of my future flights.

Yes, you should definitely give them a try.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 46):
I thoroughly enjoyed this TR. Thanks so much for the livid details onboard and I love the personal touch you've added in your reflections that made this report a most interesting read!
Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 46):
But great views of take-off and enroute to LAX! Very nice pictures your brother has taken!

Hi RvXKaz, thanks a lot for your kind words!

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 46):
The flight attendants on your SWISS flight are really interesting characters and H really seems like a guy with a funny sense of humour. The M/C also seems like a really nice guy dedicated to his job too! His arrangement with the flight deck was awesome!

Yes, these guys were special indeed.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 46):
The beef really looks tandalizing indeed! Yum yum! The chocolates were a really nice touch. Breakfast portion looks generous too!

The catering was indeed awesome.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 46):
I am most glad to hear you've had a wonderful SWISS experience on both the onward and inbound journeys and thanks for sharing your experience! It was really nice reading your experiences!

Thanks again!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 47):
Wonderfull trip report.

Hi MSS658, many thanks for replying!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 47):
I'm quite amazed by LX's service, a call to try them out soon or later.

You definitely should!

Quoting SPLTA (Reply 48):
Excellent read, thanks for sharing!

I loved the pictures of LAS and LAX.
Quoting SPLTA (Reply 48):
Once again, great TR.

Hi SPLTA, many thanks for your nice feedback, good to hear from you!

Quoting SPLTA (Reply 48):
I like the interiors and seats both in F and C class. They look simply yet classy. Much more to my taste than "wealthy" interiors/seats on some Middle East carriers, if you know what I mean.

Exactly my opinion - I'm not a fan of these over-pompous interiors you find on certain carriers.

Quoting SPLTA (Reply 48):
But most of all, you were lucky to have encountered top class cabin crew. It must have been a real pleasure both to be served by, as wel as, have some interesting chats with them. Also it's great you were invited to the cockpit, really nice touch.

These crew members made a fantastic job, would be great to meet them again.

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 49):
Thank you for taking your time to share with us your wonderful experience with LX.

Many thanks, mus!

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 49):
All i can say is WOW! LX Business Class looks amazing! I really like the seat design and colour.

Yes, LX did a great job. The new F Class is amazing, too.

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 49):
Hmm, wouldn't it better if the do?

Of course - that's what I meant.

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 49):
YES!! I have to agree! That's the best looking pice of meat I've seen served on a plane!

I can only agree.

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 49):
I wouldn't mine if you took more pictures of it from different angles. HEHE!

 

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 49):
I love cabin crew who are full of warmth and whom you can easily joke with!

  



PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: LH4116
Posted 2011-08-01 15:39:15 and read 19417 times.

Hello PH, great report!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
In the background you can see a nice bunch of Boeing 737-600s operated by defense contractor EG&G and mostly used for shuttle flights to the Nevada Test Site, most notably Area 51:

Any idea who the previous operator was?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Non-alcoholic drinks were served free of charge. Ginger ale for me, of course:

Did they leave you the whole can?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Finally, we passed security and went to the nice Star Alliance lounge which is equipped with 210 seats for Business Class passengers.

Looks very nice! I can imagine it being worlds better then the UA Lounge  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Swiss' new Business Class layout provides a private feel - but it feels even more private in the two-row mini cabin behind First Class.

Interesting that the A343's aren't equipped with the new F class. Any explanation to this? I'm guessing they're not leaving the fleet anytime soon  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
That section is unofficially called "Stübli" - actually I heard a flight attendant using that term during the flight. Here's a "Stübli" cabin shot - rows 4 and 5, that's it:

Didn't manage to find a translation to this word, perhaps it's like the Swedish word "lagom"  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Swiss doesn't serve nuts or crackers in small bowls.

Not the nicest looking packaging. I think SWISS should consider branding their own snack-packs soon.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Now I was really looking forward to the fillet of beef - would the meat be as tasty as on the ZRH-SFO flight? It looked quite promising and smelled mouth-watering:

Ah, so you had the same option as on the outbound flight. It sure looked a lot tastier  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I was surprised to find "Top Gear" in the list - unfortunately, I had already watched the very episode last year:

What's wrong with watching Top Gear re-runs? I do it all the time  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Only a few minutes after takeoff, the Maître de Cabine handed out trays and I was totally impressed:

LX really seem to impress in areas where you don't expect much i.e the pre-arrival breakfast, and in this case the meal on this 44m flight. It's nice that they decided on ditching those sandwiches for Business Class.

Thanks for sharing!
//Jonas

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: 717Flyer
Posted 2011-08-02 09:11:28 and read 19233 times.

Hi PH,
Seeing this report coming online already some time ago I knew I had to wait for the right moment before reading it. This Tuesday evening proved to be the very right timing - what better than reading a great trip report (thanks!) while enjoying a good cup of coffee.
I think many others have already said it - but this report truly was an amazing one. Great photos accompanied by excellent commentary. Can it get any better?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
This logo next to the main door represents four carriers once merged into USAir/US Airways. Can you name them?

Oh come on, you could have warned us about the solution being right below! As I started to think, then boom, I already had the right answer there. (But I can't blame you, can I   )

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
In contrast, my brother didn't receive the same personalized treatment by the flight attendants serving in his aisle.

I'm sure the word was spread quickly within the crew that "everyone should keep an extra eye on that guy in 5G" and "take into necessary efforts" when needed.  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
So how was the meat after all? Just one word: e-x-c-e-l-l-e-n-t! No doubt, it was one of the best steaks I have ever eaten. And the potatoes, the broccoli and the herb butter tasted great, too.

I was just about to praise the excellent crew on your flight with Swiss - only to realize that the food was just as excellent.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I still wasn’t feeling tired, so I continued using the IFE system. Interestingly, we were flying on a relatively southern route - and I noticed that Swiss belongs to the carriers which display accident sites of maritime disasters on the map:

Nothing beats the airshow!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I wanted to use the transfer time for spotting, so I didn't accompany my brother to the lounge and went to the Dock A gate area instead. I still managed to get 17 new registrations which wasn't bad.

Did you manage to log a 717, by any chance?  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Only a few minutes after takeoff, the Maître de Cabine handed out trays and I was totally impressed:

You really should! Thinking of the flight time that's exceeding all expectations! That's a meal many airlines would serve on a flight of four hours (or more). And I love the idea with many small bites!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Just in case you missed them - my previous trip reports:

Oh no, your trip reports are to be enjoyed immediately (or as soon as possible) after they come online.

Keep up the great work!
717Flyer

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: parton87
Posted 2011-08-03 23:41:47 and read 18902 times.

Hello PH!

Thanks for the great story. Swiss business looks great. Do you know if they have the "business saver" ticket class on long-haul flights like on intra-european?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
This logo next to the main door represents four carriers once merged into USAir/US Airways. Can you name them?



I think Piedmont livery looks great on the A319!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...and soon turned left - it couldn't have been any better



Cool picture!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Finally, I played "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?" for a while



How fun. I wish BA had this when I flew with them to the US in 2008. Their IFE was nothing like Swiss. But I travel in eco, maybe their business IFE is much better.

Thanks again!
Greetings
Robert

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-08-05 04:11:06 and read 18556 times.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 51):
Hello PH, great report!

Hi Jonas, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 51):
Any idea who the previous operator was?

They were first delivered to China Southwest. When it was merged into Air China, the planes remained in the combined fleet for a while.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 51):
Did they leave you the whole can?

No, I didn't get a whole can.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 51):
I can imagine it being worlds better then the UA Lounge

I don't know - have you been to the UA lounge at LAX?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 51):
Interesting that the A343's aren't equipped with the new F class. Any explanation to this? I'm guessing they're not leaving the fleet anytime soon

That's a very good question. It's odd that only the A330s have the new F Class, while the A343s used on much longer routes continue to operate with the old product. I also asked MdC about that, but he didn't know either. Probably LX has still been able to sell the old seats? Or probably it would have taken too much time to refurbish both the J and F Class cabins at once? It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few months.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 51):
Didn't manage to find a translation to this word, perhaps it's like the Swedish word "lagom"

It means something like "cozy room" in English.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 51):
Ah, so you had the same option as on the outbound flight. It sure looked a lot tastier

It wasn't the same option, but fillet of beef was used again.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 51):
It's nice that they decided on ditching those sandwiches for Business Class.

I definitely prefer various items over a sandwich.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 52):
Hi PH,
Seeing this report coming online already some time ago I knew I had to wait for the right moment before reading it. This Tuesday evening proved to be the very right timing - what better than reading a great trip report (thanks!) while enjoying a good cup of coffee.
I think many others have already said it - but this report truly was an amazing one. Great photos accompanied by excellent commentary. Can it get any better?

Hi 717Flyer, many thanks for kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed reading.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 52):
Oh come on, you could have warned us about the solution being right below! As I started to think, then boom, I already had the right answer there.

Alright, next time I'll wait some time with the solution.  

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 52):
I'm sure the word was spread quickly within the crew that "everyone should keep an extra eye on that guy in 5G" and "take into necessary efforts" when needed.

Well, who knows...  

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 52):
I was just about to praise the excellent crew on your flight with Swiss - only to realize that the food was just as excellent.

  

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 52):
Did you manage to log a 717, by any chance?

No 717 at ZRH!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 52):
And I love the idea with many small bites!

  

Quoting parton87 (Reply 53):
Thanks for the great story.

Hi Robert, thanks for your reply!

Quoting parton87 (Reply 53):
Do you know if they have the "business saver" ticket class on long-haul flights like on intra-european?

No, I haven't seen any such offers.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 53):
I think Piedmont livery looks great on the A319!

No doubt about that. Always nice to see retro jets.


PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: abrelosojos
Posted 2011-08-05 08:27:06 and read 18485 times.

Pretty impressive service on LX. Your use of miles seem to have been almost perfect! Thanks again for sharing this with us. Now if they can change their rather skimpy amenity kit!

Saludos,
A.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Of course I praised the new Business Class and he was glad to hear that. I asked about general acceptance and he said that a vast majority of passengers has reacted positively to the new product. Well, he also told me about a special passenger who was permanently complaining about the seat and permanently referring to allegedly better products on other carriers. "I have tolerated his criticism for a long time, but then I spoke my mind!", M/C said and smiled. thumbsup

= Hmmm ... I don't know if I would have thought positively of this though - a crew should maintain some level of professionalism. But then again, this is my own subjective opinion.

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-08-06 07:52:02 and read 18247 times.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 55):
Pretty impressive service on LX. Your use of miles seem to have been almost perfect! Thanks again for sharing this with us.

Hi A., thanks for your comments!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 55):
Now if they can change their rather skimpy amenity kit!

I found both versions quite nice.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 55):
Hmmm ... I don't know if I would have thought positively of this though - a crew should maintain some level of professionalism. But then again, this is my own subjective opinion.

I won't go into detail here, but that passenger was a very...let's say "special" one. It seems he was one of these guys who think they can do and say anything just because they sit in J or F Class. MdC's reaction was absolutely justified - and I'm sure he spoke his mind in a professional way.


PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: ronerone
Posted 2011-08-13 11:46:18 and read 17541 times.

What an outstanding TR yet again! I think this one outdid your previous LX J TR!

I was extremely impressed with everything that you were offered from the moment you stepped on board in LAX all the way until deplaning at MUC!

I really need to get on a SWISS flight soon!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I hadn't been expecting too much from that upcoming standard US Airways A319 flight, but I was positively surprised when N838AW showed up at our gate - it's one of several retro jets in the fleet. Well, the plane just wears America West’s last colorscheme, but it's still something special in the carrier’s 93-strong A319 fleet:

Amazing  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
This logo next to the main door represents four carriers once merged into USAir/US Airways. Can you name them?

Piedmont is my second best US airline, after TWA!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
that's what a US Airways A319 cabin looks like:

And it looks quite cramped!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I guess by this point he was already assuming that I wasn’t a "normal" passenger. Wink

  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...but I was much more interested in the amenity kit. It was a different one this time and I couldn't find out whether it was also made by Navyboot like the one I got on the ZRH-SFO flight:

I think the amenity kit looks great! Very creative, and stylish!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I decided to start dinner with the shrimps - and shortly after my order a nice tray was delivered to my table. In addition, I took a warmed bread roll from a basket and asked for a glass of white wine and a glass of sparkling water which were promptly (and correctly) served:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
So how was the meat after all? Just one word: e-x-c-e-l-l-e-n-t! No doubt, it was one of the best steaks I have ever eaten. And the potatoes, the broccoli and the herb butter tasted great, too.

Outstanding presentation, quality, and quantity!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"Is everything alright with your meal?" alert "Of course! It's excellent!", we replied and the Maître de Cabine was visibly relieved. I guess at this point he was absolutely convinced that both of us weren't "normal" passengers... Wink

Ah! I hate when they do that! It really discourages me from carrying on! hehe

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
During our conversation I mentioned that I post reports about my flights on the Internet and H. reacted totally different as expected: "And are there any people who read that?", he sneered. "Yes, several thousands", I replied. Then he bowed theatrically and said: "Oh, that means I have to be very kind to you!" No doubt, that man had a special sense of humor! thumbsup Nevertheless, they found it quite interesting to hear about my policy to try as many airlines as possible.

Which is why i should try this out next time!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
About 1.5 hours prior to landing, tables were set again and H. soon showed up with a breakfast trolley:

Nothing beats a trolley service as lavish as this  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Now that's what I call a decent breakfast:

Totally agree!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
First Class (old version on all A340s) I took a seat picture...

It still looks very classy!


Thanks for sharing this with us, and my apologies for my late arrival here! But it was well worth the read as always!

Cheers,
Roni

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-08-23 10:59:48 and read 16719 times.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 57):
What an outstanding TR yet again! I think this one outdid your previous LX J TR!

Hi Roni, thanks a lot for your nice comments!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 57):
I was extremely impressed with everything that you were offered from the moment you stepped on board in LAX all the way until deplaning at MUC!

Yes, it was a very enjoyable journey.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 57):
I really need to get on a SWISS flight soon!

You really should!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 57):
I think the amenity kit looks great! Very creative, and stylish!

Exactly my opinion - but they will introduce new ones in J and F Class.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 57):
Outstanding presentation, quality, and quantity!

  

Quoting ronerone (Reply 57):
Which is why i should try this out next time!

Absolutely! There's nothing to lose.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 57):
It still looks very classy!

I can only agree.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 57):

Thanks for sharing this with us, and my apologies for my late arrival here! But it was well worth the read as always!

No worries! I'm glad you enjoyed reading!


PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: Lp0815
Posted 2011-08-29 14:42:42 and read 15928 times.

Hi PlaneHunter,

great trip report. Thanks a lot for that.

Do you know what's the schedule for LX's A340s to be outfitted with the new lie-flat biz class?
I am scheduled to fly ZRH-GRU-ZRH with them in C-class in December this year.

Thanks in advance for any input and thanks again for an excellent read!

Best,
Lp0815

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-08-31 10:16:04 and read 15504 times.

Quoting Lp0815 (Reply 59):
great trip report. Thanks a lot for that.
Quoting Lp0815 (Reply 59):
Thanks in advance for any input and thanks again for an excellent read!

Hi Lq0815, thanks a lot for your feedback!

Quoting Lp0815 (Reply 59):
Do you know what's the schedule for LX's A340s to be outfitted with the new lie-flat biz class?
I am scheduled to fly ZRH-GRU-ZRH with them in C-class in December this year.

All A343s have been retrofitted, so you will definitely get the new J Class in December. Enjoy your flights!


PH

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: jchalupsky
Posted 2011-09-11 08:01:55 and read 14811 times.

Another awesome trip report. It looks like the Swiss J product is awesome. I wonder if it would have been the same level had you not explained to the cabin crew that you were planning on writing a report?

Topic: RE: Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-09-12 12:01:38 and read 14572 times.

Quoting jchalupsky (Reply 61):
Another awesome trip report.

Many thanks, jchalupsky!

Quoting jchalupsky (Reply 61):
It looks like the Swiss J product is awesome.

  

Quoting jchalupsky (Reply 61):
I wonder if it would have been the same level had you not explained to the cabin crew that you were planning on writing a report?

I guess it would have been very similar.


PH


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