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Topic: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-14 09:32:58 and read 12500 times.

Dear reader,

Welcome to my latest trip report. This is a trip that was undertaken purely for leisure purposes and probably best described as 'Knights of Malta get on a plane for the sake of getting on a plane. As for the, shall we say, surprising title of this report, please read on until the end...

This trip covers the outbound legs from Basel to Frankfurt and then on to Edinburgh. I had decided not to do report on the return leg because I was rather heavy laden with shopping and had all y hands full for the return. As it turned out though, the return leg would have been the more interesting one. So here goes...

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First Leg
Flight: LH1201, Operated by Lufthansa Cityline
Aircraft: Canadair CRJ-700
Route: Basel to Frankfurt
Date: 12. 12. 2011
Departure: 08h00
Arrival: 09:00
Seat: 16A

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I shall spare yet another series of shots taken in the SWISS lounge in Basel as I've covered this on quite a few reports this year. The report starts therefore, as I make my way from the lounge to the departure gate. SWISS and the Star Alliance seem to have their own dedicated area in the terminal.

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While I waited, I spotted this in the distance over at the Jet Aviation MRO facility. It appears to be a B. 777-300 that used to operate for the government of the UAE but the livery seems to have been covered up.

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And here's my bird, looks rather sexy me thinks.
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There was a large group of Americans sitting in Business Class on this flight. As a result, this meant that Economy Class did not start until row 14!

For us lowly Economy Class passengers, catering consisted of two Corny bars (never heard of them before), which were handed out upon entering the aircraft. Later once we were airborne there was also a drink service.
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The cabin appeared to be in pretty decent condition.
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And here are some views from Basel airport.
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About to enter the active runway...
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This part of the terminal with the tower is part of the original structure of the airport from the 70'. The Y shaped structure (not visible) that houses the lounge was built much later.
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The flight was rather uneventful and quick, with beautiful views of the clouds below.
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Quick, follow that aircraft...!
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Moments before we dive into the mist.
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Stay tuned for the next installment below!

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: alespesl
Posted 2011-11-14 09:42:18 and read 12459 times.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
Date: 12. 12. 2011

Probably a mistake?

Nice report, great pics, I like BSL airport a lot.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-14 09:47:32 and read 12453 times.

As usual, Frankfurt was just one big mess. My onward flight to Edinburgh would be departing from one of the B gates. However, as I still had three hours to make my connection I decided to explore the A pier and see if i could find the infamous Senator Tower Lounge. Perhaps to explain: pier A in on more than one level. The Schengen level is the lower one, with non-Schengen long-haul flights leaving from the gates one floor up. That's where the Tower lounge is. So I went up the escalator where there were two persons checking passports before emigration. I asked if I could go through, even if I wasn't travelling from anyone of theses gate, to which the passport checker replied that this was a secured area only for people holding a German and an American passport! What a load of poo!

Well in any case I decided to head to the Senator lounge at the B pier instead and took some cool pics on my way there. What I really like about FRA is that the aircraft park really up close to the building. Like this one here:

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Well, hello...
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The renovated lounge was quite full but crowded, which is why I did not take any pictures of the lounge itself. The views are of course just brilliant!

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Something I saw outside got me all excited...
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This here is my favourite shot. I've never considered the A340-600 to be small, but next to the A380 it seems positively minute!
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Next up: the flight to EDI...

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-14 10:11:12 and read 12340 times.

Second leg
Flight LH962
Aircraft: A 319
Route: FRA to EDI
Date: 12. 12. 2011
Departure: 12:45
Arrival: 13:25
Seat: 9A

We were bussed to the aircraft. Very nice of Lufthansa to give us a complimentary tour of the airport. And here she is:
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This was my first flight with an Lufthansa aircraft in the new cabin layout. And I have to say, I really liked it. It's very subtle but all in all I think more elegant. The seats though, were really hard and thin. For a short flight one can't complain, but if you're on a flight of two hours or more, you better take a cushion. But at least this gives you more leg space.
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This was interesting: the row numbers have been moved up into a position where they are easier to see when standing in the cabin. Funnily enough though, when you're sitting down you can only see them upside down, which is rather confusing if, like me, you're on row 9 and not 6.
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And here's the seatbelt.
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Here are some views out the window. Frankfurt is always good for some exotic traffic, like that little black one...
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Very soon after take-off we were out of the mist and surrounded by a beautiful clear blue sky. The climb was surprisingly steep I thought.
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Watching our own reflection.
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Then came the meal. What can I say? Lufthansa is obviously trying to save money here and that's fine, can't blame them for that. The potato salad and the Italian biscuit thingy tasted okay, but the sausage was just an obscenity to look at. From what I could tell, nobody in our row ate it.
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The approach into EDI was really beautiful and sunny.
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The ground crew were already expecting us.
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And here's a last look at my chariot.
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From the airport I took the Airlink bus service which takes you straight to the centre and Waverly train station. The journey took about 35 minutes as they're building a tram network in the city, causing many roads to be closed.

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So what about that Champagne...? Please read on!

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-14 10:24:24 and read 12261 times.

I stayed at the Missoni Hotel in Edinburgh, which is conveniently located on a corner, just off the Royal Mile. Much to my surprise, the hotel is actually much better than it looks on Tripadvisor.

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But enough of that. Yes, about that Champagne. The return flight was totally packed and an announcement was made that booking would be by rows only to speed things up a little. As I was on row 6 for the return, I decided to wait for the rush to calm down. When I got to the counter, I was pleasantly surprised to find that I'd been upgraded to Business Class and would be sitting on row 1D. This allowed my to observe the proceeding in the galley. In any case, we took off and the food service started. Somewhere behind me a passenger ordered a glass of Champagne. The flight attendant took the bottle from the galley when suddenly the cork shot out with a loud popping sound. For a moment we all sat there stunned, looking at the flight attendant. She was really lucky the damn thing didn't hit her in the face, especially seeing as she wore glasses. It took a while for one of the passengers to notice that she'd actually produced a huge gaping hole in the ceiling of the cabin with the cork. To which the attendant simply said: 'I guess I better go tell the boss...' and vanished into the cockpit.

This brings to an end my latest escapade to Scotland. I hope you enjoyed.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: deltamartin
Posted 2011-11-14 10:37:22 and read 12168 times.

Hi William!

Nice tripreport, looks like you had a couple of nice flights with the LH group.
Those NEK seats sure look thin!
Indeed that hotel room you had in EDI looks really nice.
I enjoyed your little story about the champagne and the FA at the end!  

Martin

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: ROGERBCN
Posted 2011-11-14 10:39:33 and read 12144 times.

Hola Knightsofmalta!

Very good report, liked the way you organise the suspense... great idea to keep us reading to the very end.

Liked your flights with LH and great finding a hotel right in the center of Edinburgh, it looks nice.

I am looking forward to trying those new NEK setas, it seems they do something for the tight legroom we are used to, I hope soem airlines in Spain start using them without adding more rows.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 4):
. She was really lucky the damn thing didn't hit her in the face, especially seeing as she wore glasses. It took a while for one of the passengers to notice that she'd actually produced a huge gaping hole in the ceiling of the cabin with the cork. To which the attendant simply said: 'I guess I better go tell the boss...' and vanished into the cockpit.

Very good, no major damage I guess... did you get some? What did the 'boss' say?

Salut!

Roger

[Edited 2011-11-14 10:42:02]

[Edited 2011-11-14 10:43:08]

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: EuroWings
Posted 2011-11-14 10:41:05 and read 12133 times.

Hi,

Thanks for this, it was a good read.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
What I really like about FRA is that the aircraft park really up close to the building. Like this one here:

I like the closeup!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The potato salad and the Italian biscuit thingy tasted okay, but the sausage was just an obscenity to look at. From what I could tell, nobody in our row ate it.

It doesn't look that bad...  Although, it seems that LH is trying to be innovative in short-haul catering l (e.g. hot wraps, salads and toast, cereal), however some of the food is not exactly conventional.  
Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The flight attendant took the bottle from the galley when suddenly the cork shot out with a loud popping sound. For a moment we all sat there stunned, looking at the flight attendant. She was really lucky the damn thing didn't hit her in the face, especially seeing as she wore glasses. It took a while for one of the passengers to notice that she'd actually produced a huge gaping hole in the ceiling of the cabin with the cork. To which the attendant simply said: 'I guess I better go tell the boss...' and vanished into the cockpit.

Oops    I bet that was interesting conversation with the captain....

Thanks
EuroWings

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-14 11:02:39 and read 11979 times.

Hi Martin

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 5):
Nice tripreport,

Thank you!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 5):
Those NEK seats sure look thin!

They are. And what puzzles me is that although it's the same seat BMI has, theirs doesn't seem quite so thin:

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Hi Roger

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 6):
Very good report, liked the way you organise the suspense... great idea to keep us reading to the very end.

Thanks, glad you like it.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 6):
I am looking forward to trying those new NEK setas, it seems they do something for the tight legroom we are used to, I hope soem airlines in Spain start using them without adding more rows.

I guess it really is a trade off: either better seating comfort of more leg space. Personally I appreciate a bit of room for the legs.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 6):
What did the 'boss' say?

Nothing much I don't think, he didn't even bother to come out and have a look!

Hi Eurowings

Quoting EuroWings (Reply 7):
Thanks for this, it was a good read.

My pleasure, thanks for commenting.

Quoting EuroWings (Reply 7):
It doesn't look that bad..

Well, speak for yourself. I think the Germans eat a lot of sausage and on a flight leaving from FRA what else to serve but a Frankfurter? But it just looked so...you know!

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: gpbcroppers63
Posted 2011-11-14 11:08:44 and read 11956 times.

Nice report. Really enjoyed it. Interesting story about the champagne cork too. I would have loved to have seen that!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 8):
And what puzzles me is that although it's the same seat BMI has, theirs doesn't seem quite so thin:

Actually, the BD seats are not the same as the LH NEK seats. They are the old LH seats recovered in BD brown leather. That explains why they aren't so thin. OS do have the same seats as LH though. Hope that clarifies.

Thanks again for the great report.  

Gareth

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-14 11:58:11 and read 11784 times.

Hi Gareth

Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 9):
Nice report. Really enjoyed it. Interesting story about the champagne cork too. I would have loved to have seen that!

Thanks, glad you enjoyed the report. The popping cork really was brilliant and in hindsight it really was funny. But she really was lucky she didn't get hurt. The thing missed her only just.

Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 9):
Actually, the BD seats are not the same as the LH NEK seats. They are the old LH seats recovered in BD brown leather. That explains why they aren't so thin. OS do have the same seats as LH though. Hope that clarifies.

Yes it does, thanks. I knew BD had LH's seats but didn't realise they had the old ones instead.

Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 9):
Thanks again for the great report.

My pleasure, thanks for posting.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: MSS658
Posted 2011-11-14 12:36:25 and read 11617 times.

Hi

Nice trip report, thanks for sharing it with us! Quite interesting that more than half of the plane was J-class on your BSL-FRA sector!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
What I really like about FRA is that the aircraft park really up close to the building. Like this one here:

Haha.. my opinion as well!  


Greetings
Marc

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: gpbcroppers63
Posted 2011-11-14 13:08:02 and read 11478 times.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 10):
But she really was lucky she didn't get hurt. The thing missed her only just.

Yeah it wouldn't have been so funny if it had hit her!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 10):
Yes it does, thanks.

No probs. Always happy to share knowledge.  

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: AlwaysOnAPlane
Posted 2011-11-14 14:33:39 and read 11226 times.

Hi William,

Really interesting write up this one for me. Your story pretty much sums up my flying year for 2011 as I have been focusing on the FTL 30 segment challenge with LH.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
As a result, this meant that Economy Class did not start until row 14!

Also for me in my last report with the CRJ-7. I think there were a large group from the company Siemens flying J out of NUE.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
What I really like about FRA is that the aircraft park really up close to the building. Like this one here

Brilliant isn't it? Really good picture opportunities as you have shown. Some interesting perspective.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 3):
The potato salad and the Italian biscuit thingy tasted okay, but the sausage was just an obscenity to look at. From what I could tell, nobody in our row ate it.

Hmmm!! Does look a bit random. Another new one for me. I wonder how many different food options LH actually have on their Intra-Euro services? Nice to get a surprise though.


Looks like you found quite a stylish pad for your stay in Edinburgh, nice one.

Congratulations with the upgrade on the return. Good story about the cork, how embarrassing. Crew wrecking cabins is a new one.

Cheers, Lee.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: LazialeMKD
Posted 2011-11-14 15:16:57 and read 11099 times.

FRA must be really big for TK since they sent A330 over there

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: The777Man
Posted 2011-11-14 18:52:23 and read 10714 times.

Hi William !

Nice report with nice pictures!

Those new seats on LH sure do look thin!

No picture of the hole in the ceiling ?

The777Man

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: Tigerguy
Posted 2011-11-14 20:53:29 and read 10435 times.

Nice report on this little leisure trip you've got here! Nice planes seen and a neat-looking Edinburgh hotel. Too bad the same couldn't be said about the LH meal, but I suppose it could have been worse. At least they bother to give you something. (Although, I don't know if they should continue to subject passengers to "obscene sausages"...    )

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
This is a trip that was undertaken purely for leisure purposes and probably best described as 'Knights of Malta get on a plane for the sake of getting on a plane.

Oddly enough, I don't think anybody here will fault you for that!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
And here's my bird, looks rather sexy me thinks.

Agree. As far as I'm concerned, the CRJ is one of the best-looking jets flying today.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 4):
Somewhere behind me a passenger ordered a glass of Champagne.

Darn. I was kinda hoping it was your order of champagne that caused the cork incident...   

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: Mike89406
Posted 2011-11-14 22:36:48 and read 10250 times.

Great report, and very explanatory. I liked to clarity of the photos what kind of camera did you use if you don;t mind me asking. I always enjoyed traveling around Europe however its been a while and long overdue. Never been to FRA but its next on my list of long haul flights. Anyways Cheers.

Mike

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: Knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-15 00:23:44 and read 10120 times.

Hi alespsel

I missed you the first time round, sorry about that.

Quoting alespesl (Reply 1):
Nice report, great pics, I like BSL airport a lot.

Thanks for commenting in any case. Basel is indeed a lovely airport. It's a pity SWISS lacks any clear strategy or focus for it, other than irritating Easyjet that is.

Hi Marc

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 11):
Nice trip report, thanks for sharing it with us!

Thanks, my pleasure.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 11):
Quite interesting that more than half of the plane was J-class on your BSL-FRA sector!

Many years ago I travelled to London from Basel with BA when they still operated the B. 737-400 on the route. I remember that on that flight too, Economy Class was only the four last rows, which is even more impressive on a B. 737-400 somehow.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: sultanils
Posted 2011-11-15 00:58:15 and read 10048 times.

Hi William,

A nice report once again. It seems you were at FRA 1 day after me, I was there on the 11th! You had som egreat eather as well, same here. These late autumn days are very nice with the low sun and the beautiful colors outside.
Congrats as well on scoring an update on the return flight and did you have a nip of that champagne as well?

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
This is a trip that was undertaken purely for leisure purposes and probably best described as 'Knights of Malta get on a plane for the sake of getting on a plane.

That’s the prupose of all my trips  

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
And here's my bird, looks rather sexy me thinks.

My wife wouldn’t understand that but I surely do   

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
this meant that Economy Class did not start until row 14!

row 14?! And how many rows did that plane have then?

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
What a load of poo!

   But what can you do about it…

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
This was my first flight with an Lufthansa aircraft in the new cabin layout.

Welcome to the club. I’m starting to like the seating more and more: legroom is a big +!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
And here's the seatbelt.

Oh? Does every plane have those?

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The potato salad and the Italian biscuit thingy tasted okay, but the sausage was just an obscenity to look at.

Was that warm or cold? It maybe looks obscene but I would eat that, no doubt  

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The ground crew were already expecting us.

They apparently just finished their game of cards lol!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
It took a while for one of the passengers to notice that she'd actually produced a huge gaping hole in the ceiling of the cabin with the cork. To which the attendant simply said: 'I guess I better go tell the boss...' and vanished into the cockpit.

Through that thick hard plastic ceiling?

Sultanils

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-11-15 01:45:56 and read 9955 times.

Hi William,

nice report with good pictures. I had NEK once and even found the seats quite comfortable compared to similar thin models.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
This is a trip that was undertaken purely for leisure purposes and probably best described as 'Knights of Malta get on a plane for the sake of getting on a plane.

Well, that's many A.netters' philosophy.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
It appears to be a B. 777-300 that used to operate for the government of the UAE but the livery seems to have been covered up.

That's 77W A6-SIL of Presidential Flight Authority (which used to be Amiri Flight). It's still active according to ATDB - interesting to see it in that state.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
Then came the meal. What can I say? Lufthansa is obviously trying to save money here and that's fine, can't blame them for that. The potato salad and the Italian biscuit thingy tasted okay, but the sausage was just an obscenity to look at. From what I could tell, nobody in our row ate it.

Well, Germans like sausages, but this one looks like the cheap ones you get in big packages in the supermarket. Serving potato salad is a good idea IMO.

Sure, LH tries to save money, but all European carriers do. LH's new catering concept with various different items is definitely better than what AF, BA or KL offer on similar flights.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The flight attendant took the bottle from the galley when suddenly the cork shot out with a loud popping sound. For a moment we all sat there stunned, looking at the flight attendant. She was really lucky the damn thing didn't hit her in the face, especially seeing as she wore glasses. It took a while for one of the passengers to notice that she'd actually produced a huge gaping hole in the ceiling of the cabin with the cork. To which the attendant simply said: 'I guess I better go tell the boss...' and vanished into the cockpit.

Nice. Too bad you didn't take a picture!


PH

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: Knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-15 07:30:03 and read 9556 times.

Hi Lee

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 13):
Your story pretty much sums up my flying year for 2011 as I have been focusing on the FTL 30 segment challenge with LH.

Thanks for posting. So how's it going with the FTL30 challenge?

Hi LazialeMKD

Quoting LazialeMKD (Reply 14):
FRA must be really big for TK since they sent A330 over there

Probably all of Germany must be one of TK's most important single markets. They seems to send a lot of variation though. On my way home the same flight was operated by an A321 if I'm not mistaken.

Hi The777Man

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
Nice report with nice pictures!

Thank you.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
No picture of the hole in the ceiling ?

Well I must say I really was tempted but somehow I didn't have the heart. I mean, it wasn't the attendant's fault really.

Hi Tigerguy

Quoting Tigerguy (Reply 16):
Although, I don't know if they should continue to subject passengers to "obscene sausages"...

...at least not without advising the passengers that some may find the contents of the meal offensive!

Quoting Tigerguy (Reply 16):
I don't think anybody here will fault you for that!

That's what I like about A.net: here being slightly weird about aerplanes is considered normal!

Quoting Tigerguy (Reply 16):
I was kinda hoping it was your order of champagne that caused the cork incident...

My lawyer has advised me not to comment...

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: AlwaysOnAPlane
Posted 2011-11-15 09:07:03 and read 9380 times.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 21):
Thanks for posting. So how's it going with the FTL30 challenge?

One to go   Some bad luck with delays and cancellations earlier in the year saw me have to drop 2 segments on a trip via FRA when they were moving to the new tower. One was credited, the other one, well LH would not play ball so I had to book another trip (not that I mind).

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-15 11:42:13 and read 9144 times.

Hi Mike

Quoting Mike89406 (Reply 17):
Great report, and very explanatory.

Thank you.

Quoting Mike89406 (Reply 17):
I liked to clarity of the photos what kind of camera did you use if you don;t mind me asking.

That camera really does take good pictures, especially seeing as it's one of those idiot proof point and shoot types. It's a Panasonic Lumix DMC-TY8.

Hi Nils

Quoting sultanils (Reply 19):
A nice report once again.

Thank you.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 19):
Congrats as well on scoring an update on the return flight and did you have a nip of that champagne as well?

Yeah, the upgrade really was a pleasant surprise, but I didn't dare have a glass of the Champagne, God know what might have happened!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 19):
But what can you do about it…

Well, nothing much. That's precisely what adds insult to injury.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 19):
row 14?! And how many rows did that plane have then?

I'm guessing there were a total of 5 or 6 rows in Economy. She's a long bird you know!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 19):
Was that warm or cold? It maybe looks obscene but I would eat that, no doubt

It was cold. I mean the potatoes were fine. It was just the sausage that was off-putting.

Hi Planehunter

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
nice report with good pictures

Thank you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
That's 77W A6-SIL of Presidential Flight Authority (which used to be Amiri Flight). It's still active according to ATDB - interesting to see it in that state.

Thanks for the clarification. Just out of curiosity: where on earth do you find such information?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
Well, Germans like sausages, but this one looks like the cheap ones you get in big packages in the supermarket. Serving potato salad is a good idea IMO.

Actually I was wondering, perhaps somebody knows the answer: in FRA they have Frankfurters in the lounge, do they have Weisswurst in the lounge in MUC? Would be a nice touch I think.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
Sure, LH tries to save money, but all European carriers do. LH's new catering concept with various different items is definitely better than what AF, BA or KL offer on similar flights.

As far as BA and AF are concerned you're quite right. Usually it's just a biscuit and a cold drink. With KLM I'm not so sure though. Of course it gets a bit monotonous after a while but their sandwiches are rather tasty.

In any case, thanks for posting PH.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-11-15 11:58:44 and read 9084 times.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 23):
Just out of curiosity: where on earth do you find such information?

My source is www.aerotransport.org - I use an extended subscription and it's worth every penny.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 23):
in FRA they have Frankfurters in the lounge, do they have Weisswurst in the lounge in MUC?

I'm quite sure they do have it.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 23):
With KLM I'm not so sure though. Of course it gets a bit monotonous after a while but their sandwiches are rather tasty.

I have heard some complaints recently about very dry sandwiches - personally I haven't flown KL on European routes for a while.


PH

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: akhmad
Posted 2011-11-15 12:47:32 and read 9006 times.

Hi William,

Great report! Nice to know that you like LH’s new European interior as well.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
to which the passport checker replied that this was a secured area only for people holding a German and an American passport!

How disappointing!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
Something I saw outside got me all excited...

A good old friend!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 3):
but the sausage was just an obscenity to look at. From what I could tell, nobody in our row ate it.

Maybe it is just me, but the sausage looks delicious.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 4):
It took a while for one of the passengers to notice that she'd actually produced a huge gaping hole in the ceiling of the cabin with the cork. To which the attendant simply said: 'I guess I better go tell the boss...' and vanished into the cockpit.

It was just a small accident, but who knows what a gaping hole might lead to.


Thanks a lot for sharing.

Best wishes,
Suryo

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: Knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-16 00:55:42 and read 8575 times.

Hi Suryo

Quoting akhmad (Reply 25):
Great report!

Thanks.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 25):
Nice to know that you like LH’s new European interior as well.

Definitely, it look a lot more stylish than what they had before. I like the chrome look of the bulkhead.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 25):
A good old friend!

Oh yes. I'm off to Stockholm soon. Should have been an MD-80 but there seems to have been an aircraft change and I'm stuck with the flying sausage again.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 25):
Maybe it is just me, but the sausage looks delicious.

No, it's not you, I just have a good camera...

Quoting akhmad (Reply 25):
It was just a small accident, but who knows what a gaping hole might lead to.

I think it's no big deal really, but it just looks rather unattractive and may give a bad impression.

Thanks for posting Suryo!

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: infodesk
Posted 2011-11-18 10:02:11 and read 7688 times.

Hi William,

Once again your title intrigued me and had me guessing until the very end!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
because I was rather heavy laden with shopping and had all y hands full for the return.

Another UK shopping trip? A man after my own heart!!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
For us lowly Economy Class passengers, catering consisted of two Corny bars (never heard of them before), which were handed out upon entering the aircraft. Later once we were airborne there was also a drink service

Very corny of LH to serve a corny bar as the inflight snack (go on, admit it, terrible pun). Joking apart though, those cereal cars are the ones that cost 1E a box in Germany and about 3.50chf in the Coop. Don't get me started on that.....

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
What I really like about FRA is that the aircraft park really up close to the building. Like this one here:

Wow, that is one damn cool view!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
And here's the seatbelt.

And a nice Swiss-style shirt by the looks of it  
Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
She was really lucky the damn thing didn't hit her in the face, especially seeing as she wore glasses. It took a while for one of the passengers to notice that she'd actually produced a huge gaping hole in the ceiling of the cabin with the cork. To which the attendant simply said: 'I guess I better go tell the boss...' and vanished into the cockpit.

Incredible story, that would have been amusing to witness! I had visions of champagne pouring out of the ceiling reading your title, but this was equally as unexpected!

You always seem to have some amsuing tale to report when you've been flying. I wonder what the next one will be......!

Happy flying
Infodesk   

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-18 12:44:49 and read 7554 times.

Hi Hannah

Good to hear from you. I hope this finds you well!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 27):
Another UK shopping trip? A man after my own heart!!

Well, I mean, what can I say? After all, Christmas really is just around the corner you know. Besides, there is a Marks & Spencer in Geneva but somehow it's just not the same.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 27):
Very corny of LH to serve a corny bar as the inflight snack (go on, admit it, terrible pun)

Touché! It is indeed a terrible pun, but it takes a certain dignity and grace to pull it off just the same, me thinks. Never seen them at the Coop, although I must confess I am more of a Migros man actually!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 27):
And a nice Swiss-style shirt by the looks of it

How very good of you to notice. I just really like the pattern and it is great for the kind of weather we're having right now, when you're never quite sure just how cold it's going to be.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 27):
You always seem to have some amsuing tale to report when you've been flying. I wonder what the next one will be......!

Interesting that you should ask. I'm in Lisbon on business next week. On the day I'm scheduled to fly back they're expecting a general strike in Portugal, so I'm not quite sure how and when I'll get back home. But I'm sure it will be interesting trip report...

In any case, thanks for posting Hannah!

Cheers,
William

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: flightsimboy
Posted 2011-11-18 20:32:12 and read 7267 times.

All that I wanted to quote has been quoted, and replied to, so all I will say it made an enjoyable read.

However I would probably have sat in that blue chair and never left it, until that 744 had pulled out

http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m627/Knightsofmalta/Edinburgh%202011/P1010982.jpg

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-19 08:24:37 and read 6924 times.

Hi flightsimboy

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 29):
so all I will say it made an enjoyable read.

Thanks, that's nice of you to mention.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 29):
However I would probably have sat in that blue chair and never left it, until that 744 had pulled out

You have a point there. Although how cool would that be to be sitting there when the big bird pulls onto the stand?

Well, thanks for posting.

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: flightsimboy
Posted 2011-11-20 08:28:39 and read 6473 times.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 30):
Although how cool would that be to be sitting there when the big bird pulls onto the stand?

By big bird you mean the A380? I would have probably got up and left when it did, purely based on the noses of both. One is gorgeous, the other is bulbous lol. Though the engines on the A380 are beautiful!!!

Topic: RE: Lufthansa And A Hole In The Ceiling With Champagne
Username: knightsofmalta
Posted 2011-11-21 01:58:48 and read 6085 times.

Hi Flightsimboy

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 31):
By big bird you mean the A380? I would have probably got up and left when it did, purely based on the noses of both. One is gorgeous, the other is bulbous lol. Though the engines on the A380 are beautiful!!!

Actually, as you mention it, it's not just the nose which is bulbous on the A380. And not even the engines can remedy that. Even so, I think it would look cool to watch it try and squeeze into that narrow space in the buiding.


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