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Topic: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: Checo77
Posted 2011-12-12 10:55:58 and read 13277 times.

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Hi guys,

this is the return trip from my Costa Rica vacation back home to Lima. Please feel free to read the onward journey Trip Report first, if you haven´t done so already  To Costa Rica With Copa Airlines! (by Checo77 Dec 11 2011 in Trip Reports)

Background:

As I explained in the first Trip Report, I booked this flight with my OnePass miles. When reserving the flight, the clasical option of flying SJO-PTY-LIM appeared, I was almost booking it, when I noticed that deep down was an option SJO-TGU-PTY-LIM for the SAME AMOUNT of miles!!! Oh my God, I screamed like a child!! Experiencing the world´s second most dangerous landing in the world basically for free made me super excited! I quickly booked the flight. I will be landing in Tegucigalpa!!! Wooow! As usual, my family and friend did not share my excitement at all, hitting their forehead like I was a crazy person. Maybe I am, because now my journey was 12hrs long instead of 6, from SJO I had to fly north, then back south to PTY and from there home to LIM. But hey, a good aneter would never reject such a chance!!!

Costa Rica destination pics:

Typical landscape:
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Cute "lapas":
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Venomous fellas:
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What a life!!!!:
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Cute, but dangerous!:
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Sarchi church:


Arenal volcano:


Baldi Hot Springs, which use the hot water coming from the volcano:


Playa Blanca (White Beach):


Tried to steal my chips!:


Amazing beach:
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It was time to head back home. I had a blast in Costa Rica. I lived there for 6 years, so I saw all my friends, we partied almost every night, I took a few trips outside San Jose, etc.

The day of the flight I took a nice breakfast at Soda Tapia with my friends, they drove me to the airport, we all cried when saying goodbye, but reasured ourselves, we will see each other soon  

10.12.2011
Copa Airlines
Juan Santamaria Intl - Toncontin Intl
Flight CM 144
Scheduled Departure: 09:51am
Scheduled Arrival: 11:05am
Actual Departure: 10:05am
Actual Arrival: 11:05am
Equipment: 737-700
Load Factor: about 45%
Seat: 23A, later switched to 20A

I arrived pretty late to the airport, because of the last breakfast with my friends. I checked-in the night before and already had my boarding passes in hand, which speeded the process, since I only dropped my bag. The agent checked my Peruvian visa, everything was okay. I procceded to security, which was very quicky and efficient. When I arrived to the gate, our 737 was just pulling in from PTY, had a little stop in SJO and continued to TGU.

Our plane just arrived from PTY:
AA bound to JFK:
SJO airport is very modern:
TA EMB plane in new colors:


I did some last minute shopping and boardin soon started. Before entering the plane, a manual search of bags and the person was done. Weird, this is usually done to flight to the US, but to Honduras? Maybe a popular smuggler route? I know Tegucigalpa is a dangerous city, but a hand search before entering the plane? All pax had to take everything out their pocket, the belts, etc. Very very strict and weird.

I was greeted by a superb crew. They were 3 males and one female. Very warm, helped the pax their way to their seats. The flight load was very low, I would estimate about 40, 45%. I switched my seat to 20A when the door closed, since my window in 23A was very filthy.

TA bound to GUA:


The safety video was played and before takeoff, the crew passed around the cabin and asked EACH row individually, if everything was OK, if you need something, want something, etc. Incredible, I was amazed! Excelent service Copa!!!

On the runway:


Bye San Jose, I am going to miss you!!!:


Downtown San Jose, you can clearly see the relatively new National Stadium:


Costa Rica is so beautiful:


Soon after takeoff, the service started. We were given a warm sandwich followed by two rounds of drinks.

Breakfast with guava juice:


After that, I started to read through Copa´s magazine, Panarama of the Americas, which is pretty good. But I found something that almost knocked me unconscious:



I mean, come on Copa, wake up!!! It has been 19years since Czechoslovakia separated into two countries, Czech Republic and Slovakia!!! 19 years!!!!! I was shocked to see this in 2011, in a magazine which is viewed (according to Copa) by 8,9 million people a month. Because I am Czech myself, this was super shocking for me. But I laughed. However, I already wrote an email to Copa about the matter, let´s see if they will respond and fix it someday.

On our way, I enjoyed some incredible scenery, especially of Nicaragua. Oh my God, I lived for 6yrs in Costa Rica and never visited Nicaragua? I must do it now, because the pictures from the plane look amazing. Once again, I am sorry for the black spot, have to clean up my camera.



Beautiful Apoyo lagoon, near Granada:


Laguna de Masaya:


Managua Intl Airport:


Managua city:


Lagunas de Xiloá and Apoyeque:


Momotombo volcano:


San Cristobal volcano:


Slowing down and descending:


Before landing, the Honduran pax started to pray. Really and I am not kidding! They probably know about the super dangerous approach into TGU. My adrenaline started to build up in my body. Before landing, the crew amazingly passed around the cabin with a tray, offering each pax either a shot of Baileys or Panamanian rum Abuelo. I took Bailey. It was obvious they offer alcohol before landing in TGU so they help the pax calm down a bit 

My Baileys:


Honduran territory:


Tegucigalpa´s suburbs:


I knew from youtube videos that the dangerous approach is a left-wise loooooong turn, that is why, if you ever fly to TGU, choose the A window seat, if you choose F you will not see anything, since the turn is so steep.

Otherwise, I had to info on the landing. That is why I was amazed to see the airport below us!!!!

TGU below us:


Then the super turn began. The plane was performing the steep turn, at the same time descending, the manuever is very limited by the surrouding hills, not possibility of error here. To top it all, there were strong winds, so the plane was shaking rather violently. I must say my heart was racing like crazy, I had problems catching my breath. Some G-forces were felt during the turn and descent which was toped with the turbulence. The pilot was slowing down and incresing power at all times. The sound of the engines was amazing. I imagine the team work in the cockpit where one pilot was turning and desceding while the other was adjusting the power. Due to the turbulence and the nature of the landing, some people (especially ladies) were shouting "ayyy".



You can see TGU up in the right corner, we are so close and high, yet NOT alligned at all!!!!:


We are down!:


The pax started to clap and applaud, almost cheering. Imagine this hard approach accompained by turbulence. My adrenaline level was super high. Probably the strongest braking ever experienced followed, I almost hit the seat infront of me with my head.
Definitely the most extreme landing I ever experienced. Not even CUZ is similar. The title of the second most dangerous airport in the world is definitely well "earned!". Must congratulate the pilots, they are super skilled!!!

Hear you can see the hill just before the runway:


Closer:


Another view:


Taxi to the gate was quick. There are only two gates in TGU with airbridges, we were using one.

I said bye to the nice crew and left. I had the feeling this same plane was the one flying to PTY with the same crew. I prooved right in about an hour which was my tranfer time in TGU.

I was the only transit passanger today.

Our baby, nice landing!!!:
TGU airport:
TGU is a very small airport, but very modern, probably very new. Only two shops available, two food stands and one bathroom. But probably sufficient.


Copa Airlines
Toncontin Intl - Tocumen Intl
Flight CM 425
Scheduled Departure: 11:50am
Scheduled Arrival: 02:40pm
Actual Departure: 11:55am
Actual Arrival: 02:30pm
Equipment: 737-700
Load Factor: about 75%
Seat: 24A

Boarding was quick, I was greeted by the same crew which asked me why I flew this route, I told them about the landing I must experience and they laughted. They were very nice.

I sat almost to the same seat as before. All pax were soon on board and the taxied to the gate. I had the row to myself again, which was very nice.

TA ATR was the only plane in TGU apart from us:


Taxi was quick, TGU is a small airport:


Turning at the end of the runway, note the hill again:


Super powerfull takeoff due to the short runway, probably max power applied:


Bye Tegus, it was nice experiencing your famous landing!!!:


The flight was uneventful, it was very cloudy, so not much landscape to see. It got very bumpy at times, the crew had to stop serving drinks for a while.

Snack, another warm sandwich:


We started descending, you can see the famous Bridge of the Americas:


Panama City downtown is similar to Miami:


Would love to swim in that water:


We entered a rainy part just before reaching PTY:


We touched down and exited the runway. The taxi was so short, the crew did not even finish their welcoming speach the the fasten your seatbelts sign was turned off.

Tranfer in Tocumen International:

I had 3 hours to kill. I looked around shops, since Panama is famous for cheap electronics. But I did not find it cheap at all. I would say Peru is much cheaper, that was a letdown.
The airport is new and modern, but definitely needs more space. It was sooooo crowded!!! And the huge lines to the bathroom!

I did some spotting, the most interesting was a Santa Barbara 757 bound to CCS:


Copa power!!! With a United plane headed to IAH:


It was very nice to find a Czech plane in PTY!!! This 738 belongs to Travel Service, a Czech airline. In European winter, they decrease capacity and lease their planes for a few months. This plane is leased to Canadian Sunwing, the Travel Service painting was not totally removed, that is why I easily identified it.

Bound for

For the rest of the time I was watching a movie in my laptop. After that, I started to look for the KLM MD-11 that was arriving to PTY from AMS.

There is the beauty!!!!:


For me, the most beautiful plane ever!!! In the best livery ever:


Marie Curie:


As I learned later from my seatmate which was on this flight, the flight was packed, meaning KLM is probably doing well on the route!!! Nice to hear that!!

10.12.2011
Copa Airlines
Tocument Intl - Jorge Chavez Intl
Flight CM 489
Scheduled Departure: 06:28pm
Scheduled Arrival: 09:58pm
Actual Departure: 06:55pm
Actual Arrival: 10:20pm
Equipment: Embraer 190
Load Factor: 100%
Seat: 26A

The boarding process was very slow since the flight was full. Lots of people were arriving from AMS and connecting to LIM. I asked myself "Why are they flying via PTY if KLM has direct flights to LIM?" My seatmate answered that to me, since she was flying from AMS. She said they told her at KLM that flights to LIM are totally sold out!!! That was very nice to hear, that KLM is doing well on the route to Peru. Can we see maybe an upgrade of equipment anytime soon?

The EMB 190 is a nice little plane, but with limited space in the bins. People with huge cabin bags were blocking the aisle because they did not know where to put their huge bags. Thanks to that, we departed late.

The seats on the EMB 190, new and confy:


Cabin:


Legroom was decent:


Our bigger sister flying to LAX tonight:


Sorry, I did not take any more pics on this flight, since I was dark and I slept most of the flight. We were given a dinner, choice was between pasta in white sauce or a meat cake. I choose the pasta and it was OK, but nothing great.

Three drinks rounds were done, I had guava juice a beer and Cuba libre at the end. The flight was pleasant, but I would not recommend sitting in the back of the EMB 190 (there are 27 rows), because of the whole Y cabin only one toilet is available and there were constant queues in the back of the plane, which was rather bothersome.
Also, no IFE on the EMB 190 at all, only the in-flight magazine.

We landed a little late, but not problem for me. Immigration was quick, I picked my bag and met with my parents who were waiting me at the airport.

Conclusion:

Copa is a wonderful airline!!! Especially their crews were excelent!!! Every single one of the them was smiling, was attentive and warm. And I am talking about the whole 5 flight I took with them.
That is their advantage over TA and LA, whose crew´s tend to be grumpy sometimes.
Meal were very good, drink choices as well. Seat very confortable.

The only thing they are not superior over TA and LA is the IFE. Taca is fitting their planes with PTV´s, LAN also offers this on some flights. Hopefully Copa will change this soon. Otherwise, I would choose them over Taca and LAN anytime, since these flights were all excelent!!!!

Please fell free to comment, I will be very happy to hear from you. If you have any questions or criticisms, don´t hesitate as well!!!

From Lima with love,
Adam

[Edited 2011-12-12 11:01:07]

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: AA767LOVER
Posted 2011-12-12 18:17:53 and read 12543 times.

Pura Vida! I love Costa Rica and Peru! I went to language school in Costa Rica in San Francisco de Dos Rios in San Jose, and served as a missionary in Lima. I will go back to Lima, mixed with Buenos Aires in April next year for my honeymoon. I love Lima a lot! Lima is considered another home for me.

Thanks so much for a wonderful TR with lots of pics from my favorite airline. I'm glad it's joining Mileage Plus. Finally I can redeem miles for COPA again!!!

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: fxramper
Posted 2011-12-12 18:38:13 and read 12495 times.

Great report. What is the creature you identified as cute but dangerous? Is it me or is Copa livery a rip off from Continental? Former CO a/c? The approach plate for TGU is something isn't it? There are a few videos on youtube worth looking at. Thanks for the report.

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: LGWflyer
Posted 2011-12-12 18:44:07 and read 12486 times.

Hey Checo77 what a fantastic TR, I loved it! I loved all the pics too! Haha and great shot getting that single UA aircraft in with all the Copa's. I one day must go to TGU just to do and experience the landing, the pilots are brilliantly skilled to land at such a place. Cheers!!!  

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: JoeCanuck
Posted 2011-12-12 21:22:04 and read 12208 times.

Great report and pics. Thanks.

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: MSS658
Posted 2011-12-13 00:19:31 and read 12024 times.

Hi

Nice return report as well! Enjoyed reading it! I loved seeing the Juan pictures  
The KLM MD11 brings back memories from july 2010 when I had the luck to fly on it.
A Ride With A Rare Blue Bird! (by MSS658 Oct 31 2010 in Trip Reports)

Nice to see a CP E90 as well!


Greetings
Marc

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: Sultanils
Posted 2011-12-13 06:21:48 and read 11737 times.

Hello Adam,

A most enjoyable continuation of your previous report. COPA looks indeed like a very nice airline. I'm glad you got to sample some different types flown by them, 737-7, 737-8, E-190. I'm very keen on the E-Jet series: they are not too big yet pretty comfy even for longer rides. I'm most glad as well you survived the TGU experience  

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Experiencing the world´s second most dangerous landing in the world basically for free made me super excited!

Now you go for the world's most dangerous one as well! I guess that's Lukla in the Himalaya.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
However, I already wrote an email to Copa about the matter, let´s see if they will respond and fix it someday.

I don't think many of it's passengers have noticed this. Probably you wouldn't have either if you were not of Czech origin.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Before landing, the crew amazingly passed around the cabin with a tray, offering each pax either a shot of Baileys or Panamanian rum Abuelo. I took Bailey. It was obvious they offer alcohol before landing in TGU so they help the pax calm down a bit

That's a good one. You really think it was to calm pax down?

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
TGU below us

Oh my, that's a low pass perpendicular to the runway! Amazing!

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
TGU is a very small airport, but very modern, probably very new.

So it looks like. Very small indeed with only 2 finger gates.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
the most interesting was a Santa Barbara 757 bound to CCS

Nice catch although I don't like the color scheme...

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
She said they told her at KLM that flights to LIM are totally sold out!!!

Only IB flies directly to LIM from Europe while most other connections involve a stopover in the US, and that's 'an avoid-when-possible'  

Sultanils

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: Checo77
Posted 2011-12-13 09:15:38 and read 11599 times.

Quoting AA767LOVER (Reply 1):
Lima is considered another home for me.

Hey AA767LOVER!!! Thanks for the nice words! For me, Lima is my second home too, I really love the city and the country!!!

Quoting AA767LOVER (Reply 1):
Thanks so much for a wonderful TR

Thanks!!!!

Quoting fxramper (Reply 2):
What is the creature you identified as cute but dangerous?

Hey fxramper!!! Thanks for your comments!! In spaish, the animal is called "Pisote" which in English is "Coati", the animal comes from the raccoon family. Is is super cute, but always hungry and has huge teeths, so one must be careful, especially if children are around!

Quoting fxramper (Reply 2):
Is it me or is Copa livery a rip off from Continental? Former CO a/c?

Actually it is not a rip off. CO used to have a big big share in Copa, around 50%. They even shared the OnePass milleage programme. That is why their livery/identity/philosophy is so similar to CO´s.

Quoting fxramper (Reply 2):
he approach plate for TGU is something isn't it? There are a few videos on youtube worth looking at. Thanks for the report.

Oh yes, as I wrote, my hearth was racing like crazy and I had difficulty breathing from the emotions and the G-forces, and the banking and all that. Amazing!!!

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 3):
Hey Checo77 what a fantastic TR, I loved it! I loved all the pics too! Haha and great shot getting that single UA aircraft in with all the Copa's. I one day must go to TGU just to do and experience the landing, the pilots are brilliantly skilled to land at such a place. Cheers!!!

Hey LGWflyer!!! Thanks for your nice comments! Actually, I heard that pilots who land in TGU must undergo a specially training, meaning not all Copa pilots are cleared to fly the TGU flights. That is why I felt safe in the plane, I knew there are no better qualified pilots in the world to perform the approach safely!

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 4):
Great report and pics. Thanks.

Joe Canuck, thanks!!!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 5):
The KLM MD11 brings back memories from july 2010 when I had the luck to fly on it.
A Ride With A Rare Blue Bird! (by MSS658 Oct 31 2010 in Trip Reports)

Hey MSS658! Thanks for your comments!!! I will have a look to your trip report!! I really love KLM and the MD-11!!!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 6):
I'm most glad as well you survived the TGU experience

Hey Sultanils! Thanks!!!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 6):
I guess that's Lukla in the Himalaya.

Very, very far away, but I will have to try it!!!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 6):
I don't think many of it's passengers have noticed this. Probably you wouldn't have either if you were not of Czech origin.

Probably not. I am very used to the fact almost nobody knows my country, but this was very funny. I hope they reply positively from Copa and fix the error  
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 6):
That's a good one. You really think it was to calm pax down?

Don´t know to be honest, but I was suspicious to me that out of my 5 Copa flights, this was the only one where they did this  
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 6):
Only IB flies directly to LIM from Europe while most other connections involve a stopover in the US, and that's 'an avoid-when-possible'

Actually not true, also LP flies its own metal to MAD, AF has a direct flight to CDG and UX flies to MAD as well.

Once again, thank you all for your nice comments!!!

Adam

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: globalflyer
Posted 2011-12-13 11:20:13 and read 11416 times.

Hi Adam...really brilliant photos. Wow TGU is an amazing approach! Love the Costa Rica photos too. I really enjoyed exploring the country a few years back. Nice to meet you as well via FB. Cheers, William

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: CaptainRed
Posted 2011-12-13 13:13:37 and read 10925 times.

Hi Checo77,

great report with some stunning pictures. That approach into TGU must really be something special. I have also seen videos about it from the outside and I can imagine how great it is to experience it from inside the plane. Well done to choose a seat on the left side. Also amazing pilot skills here.

Thanks again for this special report.

CaptainRed

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: burj
Posted 2011-12-13 15:37:30 and read 10465 times.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
As usual, my family and friend did not share my excitement at all, hitting their forehead like I was a crazy person. Maybe I am, because now my journey was 12hrs long instead of 6, from SJO I had to fly north, then back south to PTY and from there home to LIM. But hey, a good aneter would never reject such a chance!!!

When it comes to air travel WE we are your true family and friends! Not only do we not judge...we TOTALLY understand AND approve!

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
I took Bailey. It was obvious they offer alcohol before landing in TGU so they help the pax calm down a bit 

Wow that is AWESOME!



I've seen the youtube videos about this landing and always imagined what it would be like for the passengers! Thank you for sharing! I totally want to experience this one day!

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: bps3458
Posted 2011-12-13 21:23:45 and read 9981 times.

Hi Adam,

thanks for posting this report and the brilliant pictures. Really enjoyed reading both your reports. Based on your comments they should hand out t-shirts with the wording "I survived the TGU approach".

Cheers from Brisbane,

Peter

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2011-12-13 22:46:00 and read 9932 times.

Hi Adam,

another enjoyable report with many great pictures!

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Cute, but dangerous!:

Very cute indeed!


PH

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: volvair
Posted 2011-12-14 09:51:43 and read 9708 times.

Ahoj Adam,

thanks for sharing this great report! Awesome account of your Tegucigalpa landing. For sure one of the most spectacular approaches out there. And thanks for including some pics of Costa Rica as well.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
I was almost booking it, when I noticed that deep down was an option SJO-TGU-PTY-LIM for the SAME AMOUNT of miles!

Nice! 
Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
The safety video was played and before takeoff, the crew passed around the cabin and asked EACH row individually, if everything was OK, if you need something, want something, etc. Incredible, I was amazed! Excelent service Copa!!!
Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):

Before landing, the crew amazingly passed around the cabin with a tray, offering each pax either a shot of Baileys or Panamanian rum Abuelo.
Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Three drinks rounds were done, I had guava juice a beer and Cuba libre at the end.

Wow, Copa really seem to be be a great airline. New airplanes, great service concept, attentive flight attendants - definitely something which is not too common in Latin America.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
I had 3 hours to kill. I looked around shops, since Panama is famous for cheap electronics. But I did not find it cheap at all. I would say Peru is much cheaper, that was a letdown.

Good to know. But did you leave the airport or did you just look around at PTY airport shops with probably inflated prices?

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
The only thing they are not superior over TA and LA is the IFE

Are you talking about TACA Peru? Will be nice to compare them to your Copa flights, I'll be taking them soon.

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: Checo77
Posted 2011-12-14 10:51:51 and read 9649 times.

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 8):
really brilliant photos. Wow TGU is an amazing approach!

Hey globalflyer! Thanks for your compliments! Indeed, TGU is amazing!!!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 9):
Well done to choose a seat on the left side. Also amazing pilot skills here.

Hey CaptainRed, thanks!!! Yeeah, I actually watched a lot of YT videos of the landing before reserving my seat, I did not wanted to end up on the wrong side. And yes, these pilots are probably the best out there!

Quoting burj (Reply 10):
When it comes to air travel WE we are your true family and friends! Not only do we not judge...we TOTALLY understand AND approve!

Thanks burj! Good to know at least somebody approves of my crazy routings I always take. I kind of don´t even remember when was the last time I choose a non-stop flight 
Quoting bps3458 (Reply 11):
Based on your comments they should hand out t-shirts with the wording "I survived the TGU approach".

Thanks Peter for your comments!!!
Great idea!!! Maybe I will design my own T-shirt and print it out and wear it  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
Very cute indeed!

Adorable!!!  
Quoting volvair (Reply 13):
For sure one of the most spectacular approaches out there. And thanks for including some pics of Costa Rica as well.

Hey Oliver! Thanks for commenting!!! Costa Rica is a wonderful country, pay her a visit someday!  
Quoting volvair (Reply 13):
Good to know. But did you leave the airport or did you just look around at PTY airport shops with probably inflated prices?

I was just at the airport, did not have time to go the city, even thought there are tours they offer, but they take about 4 to 5 hrs, so it´s only good if you have a long layover, plus, it was raining that day  
Quoting volvair (Reply 13):
Are you talking about TACA Peru? Will be nice to compare them to your Copa flights, I'll be taking them soon.

Yes, TACA and TACA Peru are retrofitting their planes with seats featuring PTV´s, but not all are fitted. I think that those in the new colors already have PTV´s, but I am not 100% sure. Where are you flying with TACA Peru?

Once again, thanks for all your comments!!!

Adam

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: volvair
Posted 2011-12-14 12:13:53 and read 9598 times.

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 14):
Yes, TACA and TACA Peru are retrofitting their planes with seats featuring PTV´s, but not all are fitted. I think that those in the new colors already have PTV´s, but I am not 100% sure. Where are you flying with TACA Peru?

Thanks for the info.. I am doing LPB-LIM next week (connecting to JJ LIM-GRU, nice backtrack  ). I have seen A320s in old and new colors @ LPB so its going to be interesting which one I'll get. Not that I really have a need for a PTV on that hop, but it would be nice nevertheless. But I suspect they deploy the IFE aircrafts rather on the longer transcon redeyes than on the LPB nightstop.

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: Checo77
Posted 2011-12-14 14:53:31 and read 9546 times.

Quoting volvair (Reply 15):
Thanks for the info.. I am doing LPB-LIM next week (connecting to JJ LIM-GRU, nice backtrack ). I have seen A320s in old and new colors @ LPB so its going to be interesting which one I'll get. Not that I really have a need for a PTV on that hop, but it would be nice nevertheless. But I suspect they deploy the IFE aircrafts rather on the longer transcon redeyes than on the LPB nightstop.

So you are leaving Bolivia already for Europe?
My dad recently flew TA LIM-LPB-LIM and did not get the PTV´s. JJ doesn´t have PTV´s either, I flew the route too.
Hope you get it thought and write a TR, I don´t think there is a trip report here reporting on Taca´s PTV´s!

Adam

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: volvair
Posted 2011-12-14 15:23:05 and read 9525 times.

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 16):

So you are leaving Bolivia already for Europe?

Yes unfortunately. Come 2012 I have to be in Germany again for work and so I am heading there before the holidays. But I'll certainly come back to S/A in the near future for travelling.

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 16):
JJ doesn´t have PTV´s either, I flew the route too.
Hope you get it thought and write a TR, I don´t think there is a trip report here reporting on Taca´s PTV´s!

There will be a TR, for shure. I am really looking forward to the service aboard JJ as I was most impressed by them on MXP-GRU earlier this year.

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: Checo77
Posted 2011-12-14 16:59:39 and read 9483 times.

Quoting volvair (Reply 17):
But I'll certainly come back to S/A in the near future for travelling.

Great to hear that!!!

Quoting volvair (Reply 17):
There will be a TR, for shure

Already looking forward for it!

Quoting volvair (Reply 17):
I am really looking forward to the service aboard JJ as I was most impressed by them on MXP-GRU earlier this year.

I flew FRA-GRU on their 77W on my way to LIM and I was impressed by the service as well. Nice amenity kits, chocolates, water bottle, nice meals, good IFE, warm crew. The only letdown was the seating which was pretty tight, reminded me Corsair   But MXP must have been the A345, right?

Adam

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: volvair
Posted 2011-12-14 17:26:04 and read 9451 times.

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 18):
But MXP must have been the A345, right?

Yes ( The Withering Ultra-Longhauler: TAM A345/MXP-GRU (by volvair Oct 22 2011 in Trip Reports) ), but those days are sadly over. A332 since mid-October.

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: Avianca
Posted 2011-12-14 17:31:13 and read 9447 times.

great report.

TGU is also on my wishlist... once I have enough miles con my CM account I will book it!

are you living right now in Lima? if yes let me know to share some beers!

saludos

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: The777Man
Posted 2011-12-14 22:12:56 and read 9359 times.

Hi Adam!

Thanks for another great report with nice pictures!

Interesting landing at TGU....I'd like to try that some day!

Panama City looks very nice from a distance and the water looks nice too.

Service seem to be very good for such a short flights!

The777Man

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: eastafspot
Posted 2011-12-16 02:57:05 and read 9097 times.

Hi Adam

Very thrilling report,

too bad reading about the outdated map. I believe that a majority of the C.A. travellers can not locate or name few central European countries. That all said your feedback is totally justified  
Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
The title of the second most dangerous airport in the world is definitely well "earned!".

and also one of the most hated airport according to the passengers view!

Looking forward to read more you

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: ardian
Posted 2011-12-17 20:14:03 and read 8859 times.

Thank you for your wonderful tripreport! As a matter of fact, I was watching History Channel today and they had a special about the most 'dangerous airports in the world'. Tegucigalpa was ofcourse included and they gave some great info about it (interviews with pilots etc). I immediately thought about this tripreport. So I presume your next goal is to travel to Lukla  

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2011-12-18 02:20:30 and read 8771 times.

Hi Checo77!

I read both your trip reports and enjoyed them very much! looks like CM has a nice service.

Your pics from Costa Rica are also very nice, I would love to visit someday, and PTY as well. and the landing in TGU sure looks intense!

MIAspotter.

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: airjamaica
Posted 2011-12-18 14:51:49 and read 8642 times.

Excellent Trip Report and photos of Costa Rica. Seem to be an amazing country. As for TGU, it is on my wish list as well.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
The EMB 190 is a nice little plane

Agree. Flew B6 two weeks ago MBJ-MCO and back and their E190 was very impressive. Comfortable piece of metal.


Again a great read.   

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: Fabo
Posted 2011-12-19 17:45:38 and read 8424 times.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
I mean, come on Copa, wake up!!! It has been 19years since Czechoslovakia separated into two countries, Czech Republic and Slovakia!!! 19 years!!!!! I was shocked to see this in 2011, in a magazine which is viewed (according to Copa) by 8,9 million people a month. Because I am Czech myself, this was super shocking for me. But I laughed. However, I already wrote an email to Copa about the matter, let´s see if they will respond and fix it someday.

Funnily enough, Yugoslavia is split up. Even Serbia is split from Montenegro. Huh.


Great report in all. Wish to see the sights someday.

oh btw. for some reason Sunwing/Traveservice 738 does not show up for me at all.

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: AA767LOVER
Posted 2011-12-20 00:10:01 and read 8332 times.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 25):

I flew E-175 and E-190 and both are awesome regional planes!
I flew with USAirways from BUF-DCA and also AC from YYZ-YUL (when AC just rolled them out). I flew on COPA from GUA-MGA on Executive Class because I got an auto upgrade. All three experiences were fabulous. Oh yeah, I forgot about the NW one I flew from YYZ-DTW! Short, but very comfy.

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: SHAQ
Posted 2011-12-21 07:40:58 and read 8119 times.

Great trip report checo!
I'm very glad you are happy with the cabin crew!
I know a lot of them and I feel happy for them!
Next time more photos of Costa Rica , please.
I want to someday experience a landing in TGU, also!
It seems so exciting!

[Edited 2011-12-21 07:46:35]

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: airjamaica
Posted 2011-12-21 20:26:49 and read 7949 times.

Quoting AA767LOVER (Reply 27):
I flew E-175 and E-190 and both are awesome regional planes!
I flew with USAirways from BUF-DCA and also AC from YYZ-YUL (when AC just rolled them out). I flew on COPA from GUA-MGA on Executive Class because I got an auto upgrade. All three experiences were fabulous. Oh yeah, I forgot about the NW one I flew from YYZ-DTW! Short, but very comfy.

Indeed these aircraft are great to fly on and is more comfortable than one could imagine. US fly them between PHL and MBJ sometimes as well. So too does B6 on MCO-MBJ at times. Also CM operate PTY-KIN and PTY-MBJ with them too.

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: MEA-707
Posted 2011-12-22 01:43:24 and read 7891 times.

Great report ! I had similar flights on COPA and Aerorepublica in 2008. Good to see them still giving a consistent product.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
I mean, come on Copa, wake up!!! It has been 19years since Czechoslovakia separated into two countries, Czech Republic and Slovakia!!! 19 years!!!!! I was shocked to see this in 2011,

The Czech Republic might be better known in the region then you think. I flew on an Atlantic Airlines Let-410 once, in 2004, from San Pedro Sula (Honduras) to Belize. When checking in, the staff told every passenger, 'the airplane is made in the Czech Republic.' Pity my Spanish wasn't well (at the time) but that was the discussion topic for a while, even on board, people were saying (Spanish blabla) Czech Republic (Spanish blabla), I really wish I knew why; that the Czechs were making airplanes, or if it would be safe or not? It also kept me wondering for a while why Czech Republic would be said in English and the rest in Spanish, and if they had any idea how this country looks like, the split off of Slovakia etc.

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: SRQKEF
Posted 2011-12-22 10:14:48 and read 7782 times.

Nice TR! Lucky you to get to experience Toncontin!

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Not even CUZ is similar

Have you flown into Cuzco? If so, how was it? Flying in there in April next year as a part of my RTW trip, really looking forward!

Again, great report!

Rgds,
Sveinn Th.

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: Checo77
Posted 2011-12-25 09:27:19 and read 7447 times.

Hey guys!

thanks for all the nice replies! And I apologize for such late reply, but I was very busy due to Christmas  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 21):
Service seem to be very good for such a short flights!

Yes! The service was very, very good!!!

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 22):

too bad reading about the outdated map. I believe that a majority of the C.A. travellers can not locate or name few central European countries. That all said your feedback is totally justified

Yeah, that is a problem. But if you say "Czechoslovakia" most people know, but if you say "Czech Republic" or "Slovakia" its a problem. Even more people know "Prague" than "Czech Republic"  
Quoting ardian (Reply 23):
Thank you for your wonderful tripreport! As a matter of fact, I was watching History Channel today and they had a special about the most 'dangerous airports in the world'. Tegucigalpa was ofcourse included and they gave some great info about it (interviews with pilots etc). I immediately thought about this tripreport. So I presume your next goal is to travel to Lukla

Lukla is definitely on my list!!! But since its very very far away, I will have to earn some money first. But when I do, I wil definitely write a TR on it!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 24):
I read both your trip reports and enjoyed them very much! looks like CM has a nice service.
Your pics from Costa Rica are also very nice, I would love to visit someday, and PTY as well. and the landing in TGU sure looks intense!

CM is definitely one of the best airlines in Latin America

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 25):
Again a great read

Thanks!!!

Quoting Fabo (Reply 26):
Funnily enough, Yugoslavia is split up. Even Serbia is split from Montenegro. Huh

Oh, I haven´t noticed! But yes, that is even moer weird now. I have not received a reply from Copa on the matter just yet.

Quoting Fabo (Reply 26):
oh btw. for some reason Sunwing/Traveservice 738 does not show up for me at all.

Looks like there was a technical problem and I forget to upload the photo!!!

Quoting SHAQ (Reply 28):
I'm very glad you are happy with the cabin crew!
I know a lot of them and I feel happy for them!
Next time more photos of Costa Rica , please.

Really? Well then congratulate them on my behalf, because out of the 5 flight, in 5 I had excelente, warm, smilling and caring crew!!!

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 30):
The Czech Republic might be better known in the region then you think. I flew on an Atlantic Airlines Let-410 once, in 2004, from San Pedro Sula (Honduras) to Belize. When checking in, the staff told every passenger, 'the airplane is made in the Czech Republic.' Pity my Spanish wasn't well (at the time) but that was the discussion topic for a while, even on board, people were saying (Spanish blabla) Czech Republic (Spanish blabla), I really wish I knew why; that the Czechs were making airplanes, or if it would be safe or not? It also kept me wondering for a while why Czech Republic would be said in English and the rest in Spanish, and if they had any idea how this country looks like, the split off of Slovakia etc.

Wow, now that is interesting!! Sure, they probably had no idea where Czech Republic is, they might have been scared its a plane from Africa or something like that   But LET planes are not dangerous per se, they are dangerous, beacuse most of them are bought by obscure African airlines, that do not care much about maintenance. That is why they don´t have the best safety record, but its not always LET´s fault.

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 31):
Have you flown into Cuzco? If so, how was it? Flying in there in April next year as a part of my RTW trip, really looking forward!

Yes I did!! I even wrote a TR, have a read: Rare TR: Peruvian Airlines 737-200Adv LIM-CUZ-LIM (by Checo77 Feb 9 2011 in Trip Reports)
You will enjoy the landing, the plane makes a tight turn around a mountain and then descends quickly, but TGU is much more intense, even though CUZ is scary too!!!

Merry Christmas from Lima!!

Adam

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: ludavid777
Posted 2011-12-28 11:46:22 and read 7042 times.

I just flew SJO-TGU on TACA/LACSA and took a short clip of the approach/landing from the cockpit. It's a nighttime flight so you can't really see much of the terrain.

http://youtu.be/keaDAIzgbyE

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: stipica
Posted 2012-01-13 11:15:27 and read 6276 times.

Hi Adam ! ...

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
when I noticed that deep down was an option SJO-TGU-PTY-LIM for the SAME AMOUNT of miles!!! Oh my God, I screamed like a child!! Experiencing the world´s second most dangerous landing in the world basically for free made me super excited! I quickly booked the flight. I will be landing in Tegucigalpa!!! Wooow!

heheheh lucky you ... always carefully read bids and contracts ...sweet things are well hidden

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
As usual, my family and friend did not share my excitement at all, hitting their forehead like I was a crazy person.

hahaha welcome to the club ... my social circle has already given up ...

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
with my friends, they drove me to the airport, we all cried when saying goodbye, but reasured ourselves, we will see each other soon

nice... emotion and optimism

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
However, I already wrote an email to Copa about the matter, let´s see if they will respond and fix it someday.

ehhehehe they are from Texas ... you know   ...

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Before landing, the Honduran pax started to pray. Really and I am not kidding! They probably know about the super dangerous approach into TGU. My adrenaline started to build up in my body. Before landing, the crew amazingly passed around the cabin with a tray, offering each pax either a shot of Baileys or Panamanian rum Abuelo. I took Bailey. It was obvious they offer alcohol before landing in TGU so they help the pax calm down a bit

excellent service COPA ... double vodka with ice and lemon please  ... SPU have similar approach only less dramatic but with strong wind "ayyy" "ayyy"

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Panama City downtown is similar to Miami:

no comments  
Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Would love to swim in that water:

hey, you did not so desperate ... tanker, ships ,sharks ...

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
I did some spotting, the most interesting was a Santa Barbara 757 bound to CCS:

nice ... Venezuelan civil aviation is a subject that strongly interested me ... but nothing is clear to me

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
For me, the most beautiful plane ever!!! In the best livery ever:

me too me too
Good luck in the new year Adam and thank you for your time and effort ... stipica  

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: viaggiare
Posted 2012-01-13 19:33:05 and read 6076 times.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
I noticed that deep down was an option SJO-TGU-PTY-LIM for the SAME AMOUNT of miles!!!

Most of us would jump at the chance to book an unusual itinerary like that.. good job!  

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Soda Tapia

Great place to have breakfast.. glad you had a good time!

Topic: RE: Tegucigalpa Landing On Copa Airlines!
Username: Checo77
Posted 2012-01-15 19:23:34 and read 5844 times.

Thanks Stipica for your comments!!!  
Quoting viaggiare (Reply 35):
Great place to have breakfast.. glad you had a good time!

Hola Viaggiare! Yes, indeed! Had a great "gallo pinto con huevo y tocineta" before the flight!  

Saludos a Costa Rica!

Adam


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