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Topic: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-21 10:15:28 and read 22370 times.




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Background
I early 2011 my friend Satchmo and I decided to go on a spotting trip to Asia in late October. We had been planning to visit Singapore and Kuala Lumpur from the very beginning and focused on getting on Qantas' A380 between LHR and SIN. I had flown Qantas before, but I wanted to increase the number of A380 carriers in my log to five. At a later date, we also decided to include Jakarta where we had never been before. Of course we tried to get as many new airlines and interesting types as possible and it took a while to create an exciting itinerary. Finally, we booked 10 flights operated by 8 different carriers (including four new ones) and reserved hotel rooms in Singapore (one night), Kuala Lumpur (one night), Jakarta (two nights) and Bangkok (one night). We exclusively combined one-way flights and one-way combos, so we had eight different flight reservations in the end. Here's what the preliminary itinerary looked like:

Munich-London
London-Singapore
Singapore-Kuala Lumpur
Kuala Lumpur-Jakarta
Jakarta-Singapore
Singapore-Phuket
Phuket-Bangkok
Bangkok-Mumbai
Mumbai-London
London-Munich


While Satchmo was planning to use our entire time at Jakarta for taking pictures, I decided to squeeze in a domestic day trip. I found an interesting combo on two new carriers and added three more flights:

Jakarta-Semarang
Semarang-Surabaya
Surabaya-Jakarta


Now I was looking forward to 13 flights on 10 different carriers - including 6 new ones - and 4 widebodies (details to follow in the next parts). At that point of time I couldn't imagine that I would end up on 14 flights, 7 new airlines and 5 widebodies.



Part I can be found here:
QF A380 Grounded, Bags Lost - LHR-SIN, TK A330/340 (by PlaneHunter Jan 30 2012 in Trip Reports)




Monday, October 2011
Singapore (SIN) - Kuala Lumpur (KUL)
Singapore Airlines SQ106
Scheduled times: 08:35-09:30
Actual times: 08:37-09:39
Flight duration: 00:32 (hrs)
Distance: 185 miles
Economy Class, seat 31E

Airbus A330-343E
9V-STE (MSN 1006)
Delivered in 04/2009


1st flight on 9V-STE
9th A330-300 flight
24th A330 flight



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After a short, but relaxing night at the Changi Village Hotel we returned to the airport about two hours before departure. We had failed to check in online in the evening before, but we hadn't been surprised considering that we had only received an Air India reservation code after making our booking on CheapTickets. Codeshare partner Air India had sold that early morning Singapore Airlines flight (SQ106 = AI7244) much cheaper than the operator. We hadn't been able to reserve seats in advance either - and our first names had even been confused with our last names in the reservation. But we had definitely entered our names correctly...

The friendly SIA check-in agent didn't mention the names issue at all, but we failed to get decent seats. Apparently most passengers had either pre-reserved their seats or checked in much earlier - SQ106 is probably mostly used as a connecting flight. We got possibly the worst seats on the plane - middle seats in the first row of Economy Class.  thumbsdown  However, we didn't mind so much because we were still glad that we had arrived in Singapore in due time after all the hassle caused by the Qantas grounding (you can find all details here).

We still had plenty of time left for some airside spotting. Here's 9V-SKK, the one and only A380 delivered to SIA in 2010:

Picture by Satchmo


VT-JBE is one of 46 737-800s in the Jet Airways fleet. Expect to see a PlaneHunter report about such a bird soon:

Picture by Satchmo

I logged 24 new registrations until departure - in addition to 17 on the day before. That's not bad considering that I could only spend a relatively short time for spotting at SIN, other than originally planned. Now I'm hoping that I can make up for that during my next visit in May.

When we returned to the gate, we found 9V-STE being prepared for our flight to Kuala Lumpur:

Picture by Satchmo

The plane was delivered in April 2009 and is one of 19 A330-343Es in the fleet. 15 more frames are on order.

Friendly flight attendants welcomed us on board - but that's what to expect on SIA. However, what I don't like about the famous "Singapore Girls" is the extensive use of makeup - some of them look as if they wear masks!  thumbsdown 

The 19-inch wide seats are exactly the same ones as on the A380 and the 777-300ER - a bit hard, but still comfortable:



Unlike many people, I don't like the bulkhead rows, because I cannot entirely stretch out my legs:





Modern handset (stored in the immovable armrests) with LED channel display and qwerty keyboard on the back:



Shopping guide and inflight magazine:



I didn't find a mistake this time - well done, SIA:



The KrisWorld IFE guide informs about 140 movies, 180+ TV programs, 779 CDs, 22 radio channels and 80+ games:


After boarding had been completed, the captain made a welcome speech and announced a flying time of 40 minutes for this short segment - SIA's shortest, by the way. The captain also referred to a cruising altitude of 6000 meters.

Safety video:



My favorite feature:


We had been pushed back almost on time, but it took 24 more minutes until 9V-STE started its unspectacular takeoff roll.

The flight attendants left their seats shortly after takeoff and Satchmo quickly went to the back of our section to take a cabin picture:

Picture by Satchmo


I guess the SIN-KUL and KUL-SIN sectors are the only ones in the SIA network without food service in Economy Class, but we were offered tea and coffee, served on small trays:


Exactly 14 minutes after takeoff, the captain announced that descent would begin in three minutes...the flight attendants really had to hurry now!

Almost there:



Other than originally announced, we already touched down after a flying time of only 32 minutes. After all other passengers had left the cabin, Satchmo took some more cabin pictures. Pleasant colors:

Picture by Satchmo


At least one shot through a window:

Picture by Satchmo

We took the Aerotrain to the main terminal and quickly passed immigration - it's such a pleasure to enter Malaysia. After grabbing our luggage, we picked up our reserved rental car and started looking for acceptable spotting spots.


Kuala Lumpur Spotting
If you don't have a car, you can visit the observation deck in the main terminal. But be aware that it's difficult to take decent pictures through the windows. Apart from that, many planes are too far away. The facility is nice for registration spotters, though.



The main terminal and satellite gates can be quite deserted depending on the time of the day:







These birds have meanwhile been integrated into the Malaysia Airlines fleet:



Even if you have a car, it may be difficult to find a good spot in these days. Due to construction work for the new low cost terminal, certain roads were not accessible. Unfortunately, it was impossible to find a place to take pictures of approaching aircraft. Finally, we discovered a spot in a piece of jungle from where we could see departing aircraft. Unfortunately, most Malaysia Airlines narrowbodies weren't high enough yet because they don't taxi all the way to the end of the runway from their main terminal or satellite gates.

Here's our Proton - a Malaysian car, btw:



It was sad to see all the trash lying around:


Nevertheless, I guess one should always keep a proper distance to the dense bushes - you never know what creatures may live there.  Wink

In the course of several hours we saw many interesting planes and Satchmo was able to take very nice pictures. What we liked most were the AirAsia logojets. This is 9M-AFB, AirAsia's second A320, wearing "Junior Jet Club" colors:

Picture by Satchmo


9M-AFE is promoting the ASEAN Basketball League:

Picture by Satchmo


9M-AFK in "WOW" colors has meanwhile been transferred to Indonesia AirAsia as PK-AXS:

Picture by Satchmo


9M-AFQ is promoting the "Zoom! Malaysia" tourism campaign:

Picture by Satchmo


9M-AHQ wears the dark blue and orange colors of BankRakyat:

Picture by Satchmo

Traffic was really low during certain times of the day, but what can you do? In the late afternoon we had dinner at the airport and finally went to the Concorde Inn hotel which is located about three minutes away from the main terminal (by car). The hotel is nothing to write home about. It reminded me of military barracks, but it was acceptable for one night. On the next morning we continued spotting from the jungle location for a while and finally returned the car by noon.

[Edited 2012-02-21 10:26:43]

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-21 10:17:12 and read 22701 times.


Tuesday, November 2011
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) - Jakarta (CGK)
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines KL809
Scheduled times: 17:10-18:10
Actual times: 17:10-17:57
Flight duration: 01:31 (hrs)
Distance: 699 miles
Economy Class, seat 58J

Boeing 777-306ER
PH-BVC (s/n 787), named "Sian Ka’an National Park"
Delivered in 05/2009


1st flight on PH-BVC
6th 777-300ER flight
30th 777 flight



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After returning the car, we printed our boarding passes at a check-in kiosk. We were glad that the 777-300ER was back on the route as originally planned. Some weeks after booking, KLM had switched to the -200ER which I had already flown on. Finally, the -300ER showed up again. All nine two-seat-rows had only been available for an extra charge, so we had reserved a window and an aisle seat in the last 3-4-3 configured row.

While Satchmo went straight to the gate area, I stayed some more time at the observation deck. Three hours before departure I was finally able to get rid of our suitcase and went to the satellite building, too. I logged a total of 98 new registrations during our two-day stay which wasn't bad.

Satchmo had managed to take a nice picture of Firefly 737-800 9M-FFF during the Aerotrain ride - user Initious knows that plane well:

Picture by Satchmo


You find a piece of rainforest behind glass in the middle of the satellite building:

Picture by Satchmo


9M-MTD is one of Malaysia Airlines' new A330-300Es - too much white for my taste:

Picture by Satchmo


Here's another relatively new A330-300, AirAsia X 9M-XXH:

Picture by Satchmo


Satchmo was on the right spot when our KLM plane arrived:

Picture by Satchmo


Here it is at the gate – PH-BVC, one of five Boeing 777-300ERs in the fleet, delivered in May 2009:



Awesome plane, beautiful livery:

Picture by Satchmo


KLM's 77Ws are named after renowned national parks. Sian Ka'an is a biosphere reserve in Mexico:

Picture by Satchmo

Shortly before boarding, the gate area was totally crowded. I had only seen a fraction of arriving passengers immediately turning into the gate, so most people had booked the 5th freedom flight between KUL and CGK. I guess KLM is quite popular on the route due to its relatively low fares.

Friendly flight attendants welcomed us on board - that's what you can usually rely on when flying KLM. "Economy" it says on the head rest covers - isn't that more than obvious when you find ten seats in a row on a 777?  Wink

Picture by Satchmo


Picture by Satchmo


KLM wants an extra €30 if you want to reserve a seat in a row of two:

Picture by Satchmo


Seat width 17.5 inches, pitch 31 inches:


At least the handset is located next to the screen and not in the armrest. And we were glad about the lack of an IFE box. The seat itself wasn’t bad, but if you have to sit in the middle between two people, the lack of elbow/shoulder space is annoying. I felt more cramped than on Emirates’ 3-4-3 configured 777s - probably because KLM offers less legroom:


While the cabin was in good condition in general, I noticed many scratches on the frames of the aisle seats - most likely a result of trolleys crashing into them while being moved through the narrow aisle.

Welcome screen:



Language selection:



Main menu:


KLM's latest IFE system offers more than 900 hours of interactive entertainment, including more than 80 movies, numerous TV programs, hundreds of CDs, language courses, audio books and games.

Headphones:



Safety card and inflight magazine:



I couldn’t find any mistake here either - well done, KLM:


After boarding had been completed, the captain made a welcome speech and announced a flying time of 1 hour and 40 minutes. We left the gate exactly on time and rolled onto the runway only 12 minutes later.

Takeoff into grey skies...

Picture by Satchmo


Picture by Satchmo


...and thick and high clouds:

Picture by Satchmo


I watched nothing else than the airshow:





Dinner was served half an hour after takeoff. There wasn't a choice and I was skeptical that it would be a "delicious meal" as advertised on the pretty foil:



The main course presentation was okay...


...but neither the chicken satay nor the rice tasted good. That main course reminded me of a cheap instant meal from the supermarket. The chocolate cake with vanilla sauce and the cucumber and apple salad weren't bad, but the latter contained hard pieces of apple skin.

I had a chilled Heineken with the meal - but I can only wonder why they introduced these tiny 250ml cans:



The scenery outside looked threatening in the evening sun - these thick clouds appeared while we were still flying at cruising altitude:

Picture by Satchmo


Picture by Satchmo


Less than 30 minutes before landing, we went to the rear galley to get some more interior shots. The cabin was packed:

Picture by Satchmo

When Satchmo was blocking the aisle while taking cabin pictures, the purser - a tall blonde lady - wanted to pass. However, she didn't want to disturb him and kept waiting patiently. Then Satchmo noticed her and apologized, but she smiled and asked if he was satisfied with his pictures. We soon found ourselves in a very nice conversation and we told her about our hobby, our trip and the fact that I write reports. She was positively surprised about that. "So how did we perform?", she asked. I replied that the "crew is great as usual on KLM", but we also expressed our dislike for the 3-4-3 configuration and the limited seat pitch.

A male flight attendant who had served us before was passing and told her with a wink: "Don't tell them too much, these guys took pictures of everything!"  Wink Even though the plane had already started descending, we continued talking for a while. Finally, she wrote down the airliners.net web address as well as my username and asked for our seat numbers.

Shortly after we had returned to our seats, the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s. That was a great surprise!  thumbsup 

Beautiful light effects...

Picture by Satchmo


...and beautiful raked wingtip:

Picture by Satchmo


Final approach:

Picture by Satchmo

We touched down after a flying time of 1 hour and 31 minutes and arrived at our Terminal 2 gate 13 minutes ahead of schedule.

There were no lines at visa sales counters, but we were stuck in a queue at immigration. The officer wasn't friendly at all and asked me numerous questions. We were finally able to pick up our suitcase and started looking for the way to the Jakarta Airport Hotel located right above arrivals at Terminal 2E. The terminal halls are old, crowded and not cooled appropriately, so we were glad when we could finally enter the hotel lobby. Friendly receptionists welcomed us and quickly handed out the room key cards.

The hotel is showing its age and the rates aren't cheap, but the location is excellent if you don't want to leave the airport. You can even enjoy great apron and runway views from the room. Here's our KLM 77W again, ready for its return journey to Kuala Lumpur and Amsterdam:


Later in the evening, we took a shuttle bus to Terminal 1 to have a look at the spotting facilities and the area where my Sriwijaya Air domestic flight would depart from on the next morning. Story to be continued...



Conclusion
There's not much to say about the short hop on Singapore Airlines. The carrier's A330s are equipped with comfortable seats and the latest IFE system, flight attendants and ground staff members were friendly as usual. We had wanted to try the airline's A330, but under normal circumstances I wouldn't pay SIA's "premium fares" which may be twice, thrice or four times as high as the low cost competition's fares on the route.

Average catering, bad seat comfort, but good IFE system and great crew - that's how I would summarize the flight on KLM. The flight attendants and the purser in particular turned this flight experience into a very positive one in the end. While I would avoid these 3-4-3 configured 77Ws on long-haul flights, I would consider KLM again between KUL and CGK due to its low fares.


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter



P.S.: Just in case you missed them - my previous trip reports:
QF A380 Grounded, Bags Lost - LHR-SIN, TK A330/340
Type Downgrade, Class Upgrade: EgyptAir Business
Long-Haul Cabin On A 737: MUC-CAI On PrivatAir
1 Day, 2 Highlights: Big A.net Meeting & LAN A340
Imperfect Giant: CPT-JNB-FRA On SA A332 & LH A380
BA Vs. LCC, African Way: JNB-DUR-CPT, Comair/Mango
Africa's Best Airline? FRA-JNB On SAA A340-600
Fuel Dump & Return To CDG: Enroute To LAX On 9/11
Greek Quality: Aegean, Olympic & Istanbul Spotting
Exploring A Virgin: VS A343/A346 & Dubai Delights
Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Grand Canyon & More: Scenic Flight On Dornier 228
San Francisco Sunshine...and A Frontier Fiasco
Fully Flat Bed to SFO: SWISS' New Business Class
Mountains, Meals & More: SunExpress Vs. Pegasus
Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Bad Weather & Other Bad Luck: Touring New Zealand
Trans-Tasman Treat: Aerolineas Argentinas A340-200
Detours To Sydney: Wildlife, Tiger, REX & QFLink
Thai Fails To Impress: MUC-BKK-BNE On 744 & 777
Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Fifth Freedom Tidbit: Kuwait Airways A300-600
Ship Vs. Plane: Porto Santo Line & Sata Air Açores
Awesome Approach, Splendid Scenery: LIS, FNC & TAP
Guernsey, Ash Cloud Alarm & Mostly Empty SQ 77Ws
Totally Thrilling: Scenic Flight On Lufthansa A380
Cirrus D38, Adria CRJ & Captain Niki Lauda On Duty
Monarch Hot Meal, E195 & More: PMI-ALC-MAN-MUC
Premium Meal & Palma Spotting: MUC-PMI, DE 757-300
The Dead Slow Transfer: PEK-MUC On Air China A332
Cancellation Brings Joy: HKG-PEK on Dragonair A330
A380 Cacophony, 777 Star Livery: DXB-SIN-HKG on SQ
The Next 5* Carrier? MUC-MCT-DXB, Oman Air A330
Turkey For 1.5 Hrs: Daytrip To AYT On Sky Airlines
CO Scores Again: ATL-IAH-EWR-FRA On ERJ, 752 & 764
Riding The Ultra Long-Haul Twin: Delta 777-200LR
Pacific Coast Jaunt: 3 Carriers, E120, E140 & Fog
The Ultimate 737: LHR-IAH-PDX On CO 777 & 739ER
Bye Bye, Hell! TRD-OSL-TXL-NUE - DY/AB/HE DH4
My Trip To Hell: NUE-CPH-OSL-TRD On Cimber & SAS
SFO-YUL-FRA: Map- & Sleepless On Air Canada's 77W
Sin City Gloss & Virgin America's Chic First Class
Seat Dilemma & Canyon Glamour: FRA To LAX, AC 763
On Par With Air France? DTW-AMS-MUC, KLM A330
Goodbye, Red Tails! DC-9-40/50 & Chicago Tour
Champagne & World Of Coke: Air France A340 To ATL
"Mission A380": Disappointing Legs On BA/BD/EI
Delights Of Doha, 773 & 77W: DOH-DXB-LHR On EK
A380 Really a Step Forward? LHR-DXB-DOH On EK
Quality & Style: HKG-LHR On Air New Zealand 744
Taiwan Trio: TransAsia, UNI Air And The Taipei 101
"The Wings Of Taiwan": EVA Air A332, 744 Combi
SHA-SZX, Shanghai 757: Delayed By The Military
PEK-SHA, China Eastern A330 & Shanghai At Night
Striking Newcomer: Berlin-Beijing On Hainan A330
Short & Splendid: MXP-MUC On Air Dolomiti's 146
3 Hours On Blue1: HEL-MXP On The MD-90
Winglets On A Classic: MUC-RIX-HEL On Air Baltic
BCN-MAD-ZRH-MUC: UX Shuttle Meets Swiss Quality
MUC-MAD-BCN: Star MD-87 & The Pain Of Vueling
Low Fares, Lovely Island: AK & Best Of Langkawi
4 Stars Or 5 Stars? FRA-KUL-FRA, Malaysia 777s
First And Last Time? JFK-FCO-MUC, Alitalia 777
JFK For 1 Day: Transatlantic Hop On CSA's A310
Sardinian Sun, Shiny New 73Gs & Cramped Mad Dog
Top And Flop: KIX-HEL-MUC, Finnair A320 & MD-11
The 524-Seat Twin-jet: HND-ITM On ANA 777-300
Kobe For 1 Hour: 767-Quickie On ANA & Skymark
Rocketing To Tokyo: FUK-HND On JAL (ex-JAS) 777
Oddities & Okinawa: JTA 734 & JAL 744D(Domestic)
MUC To Nagoya: Finnair E170 & (Old) "New" A340
Mad Dog, A320 Tech Delay & Best Of Lanzarote
Canaries Prop-Hopping: Islas Airways & Naysa
Canaries And Confusion: LH CRJ900 & Spanair A321
Hubbing For 162 Miles: HOQ-FRA-STR Ret On IQ/EW/LH
BOS-JFK-AMS-MUC: SSSS-Check And KLM 777
ATL-PIT-JFK-BOS: FL B717, JetBlue E190 And Delays
MUC-AMS-MEM-ATL On NWA A332 And 40-year-old DC-9
FRA-BKK-FRA Via CMB: SriLankan A332 & A343
BNE-SIN-DXB-MUC On Emirates B772ER & B773
2 Hours In Paradise: Hamilton Island (JQ/DJ)
BNE-SYD-BNE: Domestic Run On QF’s Oldest B747-400
Testing Qantas: SYD-MEL-SYD-BNE (B738, B763, A332)
Going Down Under: MUC-DXB-SYD On EK A332 & A345
Surprised By NIKI's Newest A320 & Screw-up By AB
Leisure Vs. Full Service: Condor & SN Brussels
"betterFly" On LH: Business Class For 99 Euro
Weekend Transatlantic Trip (2): US A321 & B762
Transatlantic For A Weekend (1): MUC-DCA On US


[Edited 2012-02-21 11:02:29]

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: nipoel123
Posted 2012-02-21 11:03:40 and read 22138 times.

Hi PH,

Once again, it was worth the wait. Good to see that you enjoyed your KL flight. This summer, I'll be trying them out myself.

Thanks for the lovely read, I'm looking forward to the next part,

Nick

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: infodesk
Posted 2012-02-21 11:06:08 and read 22118 times.

Hi PH,

How exciting to enjoy two relatively short flights on widebodies. I'm impressed that SQ found time to serve tea & coffee, must be tough for the crew. The meal looked on KLM looked good,(even if it didn't taste it) for a flight of that length.
Satchmo got some lovely shots of the clouds on the KUL-CGK leg, very effective.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
You find a piece of rainforest behind glass in the middle of the satellite building:

Such a nice change from standard airport architecture.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
probably because KLM offers less legroom:

That legroom does look tight, wouldn't fancy a long flight.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Shortly after we had returned to our seats, the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s. That was a great surprise!

What a nice gesture and warmly welcomed I'm sure. Those Delft houses do quite well on ebay I've noticed!

Happy flying
Infodesk   

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: volvair
Posted 2012-02-21 11:07:09 and read 22115 times.

Servus PH,

great continuation of your TR series. Good to see that this part of your journey went much smoother than the ride down to SIN. Also very good to see your TR backlog clearing up. Mine could need some clearing, too  

Thanks a lot for including Satchmo's pictures as well. The captures of the sunset on your flight to Jakarta are exceptionally stunning!

SQ seem to be okay on what is certainly one of the shortest A330 hops out there.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

I had a chilled Heineken with the meal - but I can only wonder why they introduced these tiny 250ml cans:

Well, because it's Heineken and 250ml of that "fish-water" should suffice   . Same goes for the 250ml Warsteiner bottles LH has on domestic hops  

Great to hear about your positive experience with KL. I need to fly them soon!

[Edited 2012-02-21 11:12:53]

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: deltamartin
Posted 2012-02-21 11:08:01 and read 22115 times.

Hi PH!

Great report as usual!
Looks like your traveling in Asia went better than the trip to get there.   It will be interesting to read if that trend continues.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Unlike many people, I don't like the bulkhead rows, because I cannot entirely stretch out my legs:

While I do enjoy the occasional bulkhead seat, I must say that I agree with you, for the same reason.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Awesome plane, beautiful livery:

Looks great. Too bad I haven't flown on any 777 yet!

Looking forward to the next part!

Martin

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-21 11:19:43 and read 22055 times.

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 2):
Once again, it was worth the wait.
Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 2):
Thanks for the lovely read, I'm looking forward to the next part,

Hi Nick, thanks for your comments!

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 2):
Good to see that you enjoyed your KL flight. This summer, I'll be trying them out myself.

Hopefully you won't spend 12 hours on the 77W!  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 3):
How exciting to enjoy two relatively short flights on widebodies.

Hi Hannah, thanks for your reply! Yes, we had tried to include some widebody hops from the very beginning.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 3):
I'm impressed that SQ found time to serve tea & coffee, must be tough for the crew.

No doubt about that! Would be interesting to know what they have to serve in J Class.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 3):
Satchmo got some lovely shots of the clouds on the KUL-CGK leg, very effective.

  

Quoting infodesk (Reply 3):
That legroom does look tight, wouldn't fancy a long flight.

I wouldn't recommend that!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 3):
What a nice gesture and warmly welcomed I'm sure.

Absolutey!   

Quoting infodesk (Reply 3):
Those Delft houses do quite well on ebay I've noticed!

Interesting. But I will keep them.

Quoting volvair (Reply 4):
great continuation of your TR series.

Servus volvair, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting volvair (Reply 4):
Good to see that this part of your journey went much smoother than the ride down to SIN.

Yes, I was glad about that.

Quoting volvair (Reply 4):
Also very good to see your TR backlog clearing up. Mine could need some clearing, too

Well, there's still lots of work ahead. I won't be able to clear the backlog before the next bunch of interesting flights.

Quoting volvair (Reply 4):
Thanks a lot for including Satchmo's pictures as well. The captures of the sunset on your flight to Jakarta are exceptionally stunning!

Yes, these pictures are awesome.

Quoting volvair (Reply 4):
SQ seem to be okay on what is certainly one of the shortest A330 hops out there.

  

Quoting volvair (Reply 4):
Well, because it's Heineken and 250ml of that brackwater should suffice . Same goes for the 250ml Warsteiner bottles LH has on domestic hops

They should introduce Bavarian beer.

Quoting volvair (Reply 4):

Great to hear about your positive experience with KL. I need to fly them soon!

But avoid the 77W Y Class on long flights!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 5):
Great report as usual!

Many thanks, Martin!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 5):
Looks like your traveling in Asia went better than the trip to get there.

Yes...

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 5):
It will be interesting to read if that trend continues.

...it did continue. But I got sick.   

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 5):
Too bad I haven't flown on any 777 yet!

It's about time!



PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: roberts87
Posted 2012-02-21 11:45:51 and read 21930 times.

Thanks for posting!
Like I said on FB, brings back memories to my flights on SQ107 and KL809 last november!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Singapore (SIN) - Kuala Lumpur (KUL)
Singapore Airlines SQ106

Flew it in the opposite direction, my first flight on an A333, and my first visit to Singapore. Short but great flight, and SIN was amazing.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
SQ106 is probably mostly used as a connecting flight. We got possibly the worst seats on the plane - middle seats in the first row of Economy Class.

Interesting, my flight from KUL to SIN had one of the lowest load factors I have ever encountered, around 30% I'd say. I had 3 rows (=24 seats) to myself in the back. I did find that they were loading quite a lot of cargo at KUL.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We had been pushed back almost on time, but it took 24 more minutes until 9V-STE started its unspectacular takeoff roll.

I found my take-off to be quite spectacular, one of the shortest rolls I ever felt, and an amazing left turn right over the airport!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) - Jakarta (CGK)
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines KL809

Flew that one too, after AK took me back to KUL from SIN. It felt good to fly KLM and experience a bit of Dutch after being away from home for over a month.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I had only seen a fraction of arriving passengers immediately turning into the gate, so most people had booked the 5th freedom flight between KUL and CGK. I guess KLM is quite popular on the route due to its relatively low fares.

Indeed, that was my experience also.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The main course presentation was okay...

Same meal as I had. Nothing to special, especially after you've had some real chicken satay in Kuala Lumpur.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Shortly after we had returned to our seats, the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s. That was a great surprise!  


Nice gesture!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Later in the evening, we took a shuttle bus to Terminal 1 to have a look at the spotting facilities and the area where my Sriwijaya Air domestic flight would depart from on the next morning.

I also had a flight the next morning, to DPS. Did you stay in a hotel in the city or at the airport. If the latter, which hotel did you stay in, if I may inquire?

Quoting infodesk (Reply 3):
I'm impressed that SQ found time to serve tea & coffee, must be tough for the crew. The meal looked on KLM looked good,(even if it didn't taste it) for a flight of that length

Air Asia even performed a full round of BOB as well as serving a few pre-ordered (hot) meals!

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-21 11:54:52 and read 21884 times.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
Thanks for posting!

Hi Robert, thanks for your reply!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
Like I said on FB, brings back memories to my flights on SQ107 and KL809 last november!

What a coincidence!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
Flew it in the opposite direction, my first flight on an A333, and my first visit to Singapore. Short but great flight, and SIN was amazing.

Sounds great! Singapore is a great city.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
Interesting, my flight from KUL to SIN had one of the lowest load factors I have ever encountered, around 30% I'd say. I had 3 rows (=24 seats) to myself in the back. I did find that they were loading quite a lot of cargo at KUL.

I guess SQ106 is a popular connecting flight.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
I found my take-off to be quite spectacular, one of the shortest rolls I ever felt, and an amazing left turn right over the airport!

Interesting. But everything feels different from a middle seat in the front.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
It felt good to fly KLM and experience a bit of Dutch after being away from home for over a month.

Yes, I can understand that!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
Nothing to special, especially after you've had some real chicken satay in Kuala Lumpur.

  

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
Nice gesture!

  

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
Did you stay in a hotel in the city or at the airport.

We stayed two nights in the Jakarta Airport Hotel. Where did you stay at?

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
Air Asia even performed a full round of BOB as well as serving a few pre-ordered (hot) meals!

That's impressive!


PH

[Edited 2012-02-21 11:56:10]

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: akhmad
Posted 2012-02-21 12:04:26 and read 21843 times.

PH, PH,

Do I read what I read? Pinch me! Pinch me!
Were you really coming to my home country Indonesia? You were!      

I had to.. I just had to read every single word of this special trip report. So indulging, so delightfully sweet, so exciting… and so quick the story came to an end.  


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
At a later date, we also decided to include Jakarta where we had never been before.

The best decision. I do hope more fellow A.netters will follow your example.  


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
and our first names had even been confused with our last names in the reservation. But we had definitely entered our names correctly...

I believe you. What about this? Herman and I unintentionally swap identity for our upcoming flight with Silkair.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Expect to see a PlaneHunter report about such a bird soon:

Can I see it before next week Saturday? 


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
what I don't like about the famous "Singapore Girls" is the extensive use of makeup - some of them look as if they wear masks!   

SQ just has to hire another cosmeticians. If you remark, than there is definitely something to be addressed immediately!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I didn't find a mistake this time
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
I couldn’t find any mistake here either

It seems to become an obsession somehow.   


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but we were offered tea and coffee, served on small trays:

It reminds me of the cabin serving while flying SZB-SIN leg in 1989.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
it's such a pleasure to enter Malaysia.

I can only agree with you. No visa required at all.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
It was sad to see all the trash lying around:

Why did the committers do such thing to such nature beauty?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
you never know what creatures may live there.   

big spins, snakes, scorpions and many more. 


Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
I had a chilled Heineken with the meal - but I can only wonder why they introduced these tiny 250ml cans:

I would say, abandon Heineken. I wonder why KL did not offer Tiger instead?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
...but neither the chicken satay nor the rice tasted good.

What a pity. Both of them look so tasty.  


Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
When Satchmo was blocking the aisle while taking cabin pictures, the purser - a tall blonde lady - wanted to pass. However, she didn't want to disturb him and kept waiting patiently. Then Satchmo noticed her and apologized, but she smiled and asked if he was satisfied with his pictures.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
A male flight attendant who had served us before was passing and told her with a wink: "Don't tell them too much, these guys took pictures of everything!"    Even though the plane had already started descending, we continued talking for a while. Finally, she wrote down the airliners.net web address as well as my username and asked for our seat numbers.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Shortly after we had returned to our seats, the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s.

I am amazed. Truly amazed! The crew members have set a notable example. Vueling (especially Sara), do you read this?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
The officer wasn't friendly at all and asked me numerous questions.

Sad but true fact of most CGK’s immigration officials.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Here's our KLM 77W again, ready for its return journey to Kuala Lumpur and Amsterdam:

Gorgeous picture!


PH, I got a feeling that today did not go too well at the office, but you have made my evening with this cheering story. Thank you so much.

With all excitements you can ever imagine, I am looking forward to the next part.


Warmest regards,
Suryo

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: roberts87
Posted 2012-02-21 12:10:54 and read 21805 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
Thanks for posting!

Hi Robert, thanks for your reply!

You're welcome!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
I found my take-off to be quite spectacular, one of the shortest rolls I ever felt, and an amazing left turn right over the airport!

Interesting. But everything feels different from a middle seat in the front.

That's true!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 7):
Did you stay in a hotel in the city or at the airport.

We stayed two nights in the Jakarta Airport Hotel. Where did you stay at?

I stayed at the FM Resort Hotel. On the expensive side, but a nice spa/pool and restaurant on sight, as well as a personal pick up service.

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: eicvd
Posted 2012-02-21 12:23:15 and read 21757 times.

Hi PlaneHunter

Another great report, an excellent read just like part 1. I really like those light effect pics from the KL flight, beautiful scenes like that can make great flights even better. Looking forward to reading the next few reports from this trip, your domestic flights around Indonesia sound very interesting. Thanks for posting.

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2012-02-21 12:31:37 and read 21738 times.

Hey, Udo,

sure a great read, That´s what I call a perfectly timed story with my arrival from SIN earlier today.
KL sounds really good on this route, interesting, definitely.
Looking forward to you´re Indonesia domestic experience now.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: LH4532
Posted 2012-02-21 12:48:00 and read 21672 times.

Guten Abend PlaneHunter ,

Very nice to another part of your TR series online .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
flying time of only 32 minutes

The shortest flight I ever had was YYJ-YVR . The flying time was only 15 minutes .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Friendly flight attendants welcomed us on board

That´s how I remember SQ . The last time I flew with them is many years ago .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but we were offered tea and coffee

It´s at least something . Many other carriers don´t offer anything on "short" flights .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Here's our Proton

My mother had a Proton when we lived in Malaysia . My family and I lived in Johor Bahru for 8 years .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Satchmo was able to take very nice pictures.

Please pass my regards to Satchmo . His pictures are always very nice .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
KLM wants an extra €30 if you want to reserve a seat in a row of two

Did you take advantage of the offer ?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I had a chilled Heineken

Where is your Ginger Ale   ?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Finally, she wrote down the airliners.net web address as well as my username

Could it be another possbile future A.netter ?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses

It sure is very nice of her to give your the amenity kits and the Delft houses .


Thank your for writing this TR . I always enjoy your and Satchmo´s pictures and I love how detailed your TR´s are .


Daniel ( LH4532 )

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: AlwaysOnAPlane
Posted 2012-02-21 14:06:41 and read 21400 times.

Hi PH.

Great report again.
Good to hear things ran nice and smooth at this point.

Cool that you got the SQ A330. I remember last time I flew SQ they were just being introduced. I actually took the SIN-KUL shuttle just for fun during one of my stays in Singapore, back then on the 772 when they still had a F cabin on this route. Well, it was a SQ regional style J seat but with an F on the glassware and napkins. Quite a nice meal offered though.

KUL is a funny kind of airport. So big, yet such little traffic as you pointed out in your report. I love the indoor rainforest though.

Really good to see some of these different "themed" AirAsia jets. I quite like this also.

Your KL flight sounded good and the welcomed gifts from the crew, well thats just brilliant. Little things go a long way.

Those stormy looking cloud pictures on your way down to CGK look interesting. I love to see these kind of pictures.

Cheers, Lee.

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: aflyingkiwi
Posted 2012-02-21 19:32:38 and read 20872 times.

Thanks for the great read PlaneHunter!

It sounds like you had 2 relatively uneventful widebody hops, I guess Asia is slowly becoming the only place where you can regularly find widebodies on short hops like SIN-KUL.

Service on SQ looked quite nice. Good to see that they were still able to offer a beverage run despite the short length of the flight.

Great to hear that you had a set of welcoming crew on KL. I'm sure receiving those gifts would've made your day though the 10-abreast seating does put me off.

Looking forward to the report of your Indonesian domestic legs.

Regards,
aflyingkiwi

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: 767747
Posted 2012-02-21 20:32:01 and read 20763 times.

Good report, PH!

Looks like you had a nice flight with KLM overall - How great to have such a good conversation with the cabin crew, and how nice you received a little gift! When my fiancee and I flew back from CPH to ORD, I talked with one flight attendant serving Economy for a long time; really nice guy, I would have loved to have had a beer with him after the flight. We talked about flying, SAS, the airlines, Copenhagen, etc.

Sorry to hear your flight with SQ wasn't more special. While I would like to try SQ, I do get the impression their service seems a bit overly robotic.

Looking forward to your next trip!

Matthew

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-21 22:58:22 and read 20484 times.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
Do I read what I read? Pinch me! Pinch me!
Were you really coming to my home country Indonesia? You were!

I had to.. I just had to read every single word of this special trip report. So indulging, so delightfully sweet, so exciting… and so quick the story came to an end.

Hi Suryo, thank you so much for your nice comments! I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
The best decision. I do hope more fellow A.netters will follow your example.

Let's hope so. CGK is excellent for spotting and there are so many interesting domestic trip options.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
What about this? Herman and I unintentionally swap identity for our upcoming flight with Silkair.

Oh, hopefully you won't run into trouble!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
Can I see it before next week Saturday?

No, unfortunately. It'll take some more time.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
SQ just has to hire another cosmeticians. If you remark, than there is definitely something to be addressed immediately!

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
It seems to become an obsession somehow.

Probably, yes.  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
It reminds me of the cabin serving while flying SZB-SIN leg in 1989.

Sounds nice! MH or SQ? I guess there weren't any more options back then.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
Why did the committers do such thing to such nature beauty?

I'll never understand that.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
big spins, snakes, scorpions and many more.

That's what I meant.  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
I wonder why KL did not offer Tiger instead?

Tiger would have been nice.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
I am amazed. Truly amazed! The crew members have set a notable example.

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
Sad but true fact of most CGK’s immigration officials.

That's bad to hear. My impression is that Indonesian people are very friendly in general.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
PH, I got a feeling that today did not go too well at the office, but you have made my evening with this cheering story. Thank you so much.

I'm happy to hear that, thank you!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 10):
I stayed at the FM Resort Hotel. On the expensive side, but a nice spa/pool and restaurant on sight, as well as a personal pick up service.

Hi again! Sounds good, I will keep that in mind.

Quoting eicvd (Reply 11):
Another great report, an excellent read just like part 1.

Many thanks, Mark! I'm glad you enjoyed reading.

Quoting eicvd (Reply 11):
. I really like those light effect pics from the KL flight, beautiful scenes like that can make great flights even better.

  

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 12):
sure a great read, That´s what I call a perfectly timed story with my arrival from SIN earlier today.

Servus Markus, thanks for commenting! I'm already looking forward to read about your experiences.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 12):
KL sounds really good on this route, interesting, definitely.

And it wasn't expensive at all.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 13):
Very nice to another part of your TR series online .

Hi Daniel, thanks a lot for your reply!

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 13):
The shortest flight I ever had was YYJ-YVR . The flying time was only 15 minutes .

Nice. My shortest has been PXO-FNC, flying time 11 minutes.

Ship Vs. Plane: Porto Santo Line & Sata Air Açores (by PlaneHunter Nov 17 2010 in Trip Reports)

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 13):
It´s at least something . Many other carriers don´t offer anything on "short" flights .

  

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 13):
My family and I lived in Johor Bahru for 8 years .

That sounds really interesting. You have to tell me more about that.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 13):
Please pass my regards to Satchmo . His pictures are always very nice .

He'll be haooy to hear that.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 13):
Did you take advantage of the offer ?

No, not worth it IMO.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 13):
Where is your Ginger Ale ?

Well, sometimes I prefer a beer.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 13):
Could it be another possbile future A.netter ?

Would be nice.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 13):
It sure is very nice of her to give your the amenity kits and the Delft houses .

Yes, that was a nice surprise.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 13):

Thank your for writing this TR . I always enjoy your and Satchmo´s pictures and I love how detailed your TR´s are .

Thanks again, Daniel!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 14):
Great report again.

Hi Lee, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 14):
I actually took the SIN-KUL shuttle just for fun during one of my stays in Singapore, back then on the 772 when they still had a F cabin on this route. Well, it was a SQ regional style J seat but with an F on the glassware and napkins. Quite a nice meal offered though.

Interesting, good choice. Were you able to finish your meal?

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 14):
KUL is a funny kind of airport. So big, yet such little traffic as you pointed out in your report. I love the indoor rainforest though.

It has improved due to AirAsia's growth - and MH seems to be expanding again.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 14):
Really good to see some of these different "themed" AirAsia jets.

It would be boring without them!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 14):
Your KL flight sounded good and the welcomed gifts from the crew, well thats just brilliant. Little things go a long way.

Yes, that made this flight special.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 14):
Those stormy looking cloud pictures on your way down to CGK look interesting. I love to see these kind of pictures.

I can only agree!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 15):
Thanks for the great read PlaneHunter!

Many thanks, aflyingkiwi!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 15):
I guess Asia is slowly becoming the only place where you can regularly find widebodies on short hops like SIN-KUL.

True. But the expansion of LCCs in these markets has already changed the situation. There used to be even more widebody flights on certain routes some years ago.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 15):
Good to see that they were still able to offer a beverage run despite the short length of the flight.

  

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 15):
Great to hear that you had a set of welcoming crew on KL. I'm sure receiving those gifts would've made your day

Absolutely!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 16):
Good report, PH!

Thank you, Matthew!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 16):
Looks like you had a nice flight with KLM overall - How great to have such a good conversation with the cabin crew, and how nice you received a little gift!

  

Quoting 767747 (Reply 16):
When my fiancee and I flew back from CPH to ORD, I talked with one flight attendant serving Economy for a long time; really nice guy, I would have loved to have had a beer with him after the flight. We talked about flying, SAS, the airlines, Copenhagen, etc.

Sounds good!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 16):
While I would like to try SQ, I do get the impression their service seems a bit overly robotic.

Yes, I can only agree with you.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 9):
With all excitements you can ever imagine, I am looking forward to the next part.
Quoting eicvd (Reply 11):
Looking forward to reading the next few reports from this trip, your domestic flights around Indonesia sound very interesting.
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 12):
Looking forward to you´re Indonesia domestic experience now.
Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 15):
Looking forward to the report of your Indonesian domestic legs.
Quoting 767747 (Reply 16):
Looking forward to your next trip!

I'll start working on part III today!



PH

[Edited 2012-02-21 23:17:58]

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: B738FlyUIA
Posted 2012-02-21 23:51:47 and read 20384 times.

Hi PH

Thank you for sharing your next part of the TR!!!! Is really great and have been on the leg SIN-KUL but that was many years before with a A310!!!! The load factor was very high only the KUL's airport was then little different!!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
While I would avoid these 3-4-3 configured 77Ws on long-haul flights

I wonder why this is like you wrote it as the B77W is quite new!!!!

But your pic's are wonderful.... I like them a lot and look forward to the next part!!!!!!

Cheers

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-22 00:15:12 and read 20330 times.

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 18):
Thank you for sharing your next part of the TR!!!! I
Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 18):
But your pic's are wonderful.... I like them a lot and look forward to the next part!!!!!!

Grüezi Zolti, thanks a lot for your comments! I'm glad you enjoyed reading!

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 18):
Is really great and have been on the leg SIN-KUL but that was many years before with a A310!!!!

Very nice. Was it a -200 model? I flew SIN-DPS on such a classic bird in 1997.

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 18):
The load factor was very high only the KUL's airport was then little different!!!

Loads can vary a lot.

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 18):
I wonder why this is like you wrote it as the B77W is quite new!!!!

The 3-4-3 configuation is acceptable under certain circumstances - e.g. if you have enough legroom (EK) or don't have to spend 10 hours on the plane.

Btw - will you write a report about your upcoming journey to Vietnam? I'm particularly interested in the UN 777.


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: B738FlyUIA
Posted 2012-02-22 00:42:15 and read 20283 times.

Grüezi PH!!!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19):
Very nice. Was it a -200 model? I flew SIN-DPS on such a classic bird in 1997.

Yes, as far I remember it was a -200... arriving after the ZRH-SIN sector I was so amazed that the next day I booked a trip SIN - KUL for a day!!!! it was really very interesting and nice.... was in 1994 if not mistaken!!!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 19):
Btw - will you write a report about your upcoming journey to Vietnam? I'm particularly interested in the UN 777.

Yes I will and thank you for noticing this!!! Actually I have already started to make the improvement of the TR.. Previous was not the best effort I put in to it and missed according to some user comments a couple of things!!!!! I'm very looking forward to the trip and sorry this is little OFF TOPIC due your TR!!!!

To your signature I can only agree with you... even I've chosen a little different way of the way but the DME will be the second destination that will arrive for the transfer and SVO was also in my TR the second time in Dec'11!!!

Cheers
Zolti.

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-22 01:10:17 and read 20243 times.

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 20):
Yes, as far I remember it was a -200... arriving after the ZRH-SIN sector I was so amazed that the next day I booked a trip SIN - KUL for a day!!!!

Good decision!

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 20):

Yes I will and thank you for noticing this!!!

I'm looking forward to it!

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 20):
Actually I have already started to make the improvement of the TR.. Previous was not the best effort I put in to it and missed according to some user comments a couple of things!!!!!

We have all started writing one day.


Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 20):
I'm very looking forward to the trip and sorry this is little OFF TOPIC due your TR!!!!

I wish you a nice trip!


PH

[Edited 2012-02-22 01:13:03]

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2012-02-22 01:38:40 and read 20182 times.

Very nice report Udo...really want to get back to Asia again soon now!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Codeshare partner Air India had sold that early morning Singapore Airlines flight (SQ106 = AI7244) much cheaper than the operator.

The last time I flew this route I booked the MH codeshare as it was cheaper - took an age to get the airmiles out of LH though. In Business you only get a small sandwhich - they didn't even load any wine onto the plane!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
9M-AFK in "WOW" colors has meanwhile been transferred to Indonesia AirAsia as PK-AXS:

I like this one best. I hadn't realised there were so many AK liveries

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
9M-MTD is one of Malaysia Airlines' new A330-300Es - too much white for my taste:

Yeah, not a good design. They should have got ride of the awful '70s typeface and done something a bit more modern

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The main course presentation was okay...

Looks nice - shame it didn't taste great

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
A male flight attendant who had served us before was passing and told her with a wink: "Don't tell them too much, these guys took pictures of everything!" Wink

Haha

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Shortly after we had returned to our seats, the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s. That was a great surprise! thumbsup

Very nice surprise from KL!

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-22 01:55:31 and read 20155 times.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 22):
Very nice report Udo...really want to get back to Asia again soon now!

Hi Gabriel, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 22):
In Business you only get a small sandwhich - they didn't even load any wine onto the plane!

Interesting - but I guess there wouldn't be much more time for anything else.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 22):
I like this one best. I hadn't realised there were so many AK liveries

There are even more, about twice as much as shown here.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 22):
They should have got ride of the awful '70s typeface and done something a bit more modern

  

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 22):
Very nice surprise from KL!

  


Btw - I'll have a look at your LX F report later today!



PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: nipoel123
Posted 2012-02-22 02:02:03 and read 20141 times.

Hi PH,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 6):
Hopefully you won't spend 12 hours on the 77W!

Nope, 8 hours on a B74M in Y, and 9.20 hours on a B772 in J.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 6):
Interesting. But I will keep them.

Come to the BRU meet in September and I might get you another one!

Nick

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-22 02:24:41 and read 20118 times.

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 24):
Nope, 8 hours on a B74M in Y, and 9.20 hours on a B772 in J.

That sounds very good! Will you write a report?

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 24):
Come to the BRU meet in September and I might get you another one!

Thanks a lot! I'm not sure if I have time in September, but I will keep it in mind.


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: nipoel123
Posted 2012-02-22 02:29:54 and read 20111 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 25):
That sounds very good! Will you write a report?

Of course I will, I'm not sure if it will be up to your quality, but I'll give it a try. I forgot to mention, but there's also two domestic WS flights (YXU-YYC-YVR) involved, so expect three separate reports!

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-22 04:07:09 and read 19984 times.

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 26):
Of course I will, I'm not sure if it will be up to your quality, but I'll give it a try.

I'm glad you'll write a report - and I'm sure it will be a good one!

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 26):
I forgot to mention, but there's also two domestic WS flights (YXU-YYC-YVR) involved, so expect three separate reports!

Excellent. You cannot find many reports about that relatively large LCC here.


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: sultanils
Posted 2012-02-22 06:31:18 and read 19776 times.

Hi PH,

What a very nice and entertaining piece! Your friend Satchmo provided you once again with excellent photos troughout the report. I loved the series of Air Asia special schemes - although they’re quite horrible imo. Any idea if you got them all?
Your visit to KUL on SQ reminded me of my holiday in Malaysia some 10 years ago. KUL’s a nice airport as well, but it does not get the variety of carriers to SIN gets. Quite a short hop going there though, only some quarter of an hour airtime.
That KL flight is indeed quite popular! I do believe this is the first report with the 77W on that sector. Lovely airplane but I don’t want to be stuck there on longhaul with the cramped seating and limited comfort.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We got possibly the worst seats on the plane - middle seats in the first row of Economy Class.

Oh damn, you got off to a bad start there...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Expect to see a PlaneHunter report about such a bird soon:

Oh really? Have you been to India already as well or another 5th freedom in the Asian region?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The main terminal and satellite gates can be quite deserted depending on the time of the day:

From what I heard KUL is a too large airport for the amount of traffic it receives. Any idea if that is still the case?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
These birds have meanwhile been integrated into the Malaysia Airlines fleet:

Lucky for user Initious to have scored a ride on one of them!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
9M-MTD is one of Malaysia Airlines' new A330-300Es - too much white for my taste:

That scheme makes me think of the MyTravel scheme. It is white, yes, a trend in the making maybe with some other airlines shifting to a ‘more white’ scheme as well (Virgin Australia, Finnair,...)

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Awesome plane, beautiful livery

I agree on that one!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I guess KLM is quite popular on the route due to its relatively low fares.

This sector is likely to be one of the few where KL has decent oneway fares?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Shortly after we had returned to our seats, the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s. That was a great surprise!

Wow - I’m impressed. Maybe they wanted to make up for the negative remarks you told them?

Sultanils

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: rvxkaz
Posted 2012-02-22 07:26:51 and read 19681 times.

Hi PH!

I've been really busy as of late but just a quick reply on your beautiful TR!
Great photos (as always) detailing the service products of SQ and KL!

Nice to hear that you've a taste of quite different carriers on their short intra-Asia hops! KL indeed offers a highly competitive product on its KUL-CGK route and I hope it stays that way!

Nice to see you managed some spotting at KLIA! Hope your time in SE Asia was as enjoyable as your flights!

Cheers!
RvXKaz

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: lukeyboy95
Posted 2012-02-22 07:35:23 and read 19669 times.

Hi Udo,

Another corroboration with this mysterious Satchmo! Superb photos, clearly structured and well illustrated. Particularly enjoyed it. There had been a fmaine of good reports for a few days now so this was welcome.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
I guess the SIN-KUL and KUL-SIN sectors are the only ones in the SIA network without food service in Economy Class, but we were offered tea and coffee, served on small trays:

I don't really get this. It would cost barely a dime or a second extra to put a classy biscuit, or nibble on there, and would be more aligned to SQ's natural order of service. Would they have got your a ginger beer if you had asked?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 6):
We took the Aerotrain to the main terminal and quickly passed immigration - it's such a pleasure to enter Malaysia. After grabbing our luggage, we picked up our reserved rental car and started looking for acceptable spotting spots.

Dedicated spotting! Was that an expensive rental just for a day? I also remember the outskirts of the airport being either a worksite or a rubber plantation.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):
but neither the chicken satay nor the rice tasted good. That main course reminded me of a cheap instant meal from the supermarket. The chocolate cake with vanilla sauce and the cucumber and apple salad weren't bad, but the latter contained hard pieces of apple skin.

I had a chilled Heineken with the meal - but I can only wonder why they introduced these tiny 250ml cans:

What an upsetting meal. Great that you get a hot-meal, but I do not care for the oblong design, and as you mention, it tasted a bit naff. Sounds like great, friendly service though.... Glad it is doing well.

KLM looked more thrilling on this sector Udo. Great report, looking forward to more. . .

Luke!

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: B738FlyUIA
Posted 2012-02-22 07:49:23 and read 19649 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
I wish you a nice trip!

Thank you PH...

I'm leaving next Tuesday morning  

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-02-22 08:01:45 and read 19627 times.

Hi, PH!

great report, nicely designed again and a good amount of great quality pics. Well done Satchmo!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I guess the SIN-KUL and KUL-SIN sectors are the only ones in the SIA network without food service in Economy Class, but we were offered tea and coffee, served on small trays

But the drink service on these trays... very nice for Y-class isn't it?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I had a chilled Heineken with the meal - but I can only wonder why they introduced these tiny 250ml cans:

Lighter weight, cheaper cans, and the passenger still gets the beer he/she asks for. Smart move to make a little cost reduction. This is similar to the smaller Warsteiner bottles on LH (CityLine?)

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Shortly after we had returned to our seats, the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s. That was a great surprise!

Yes, that exactly is KLM for you. Always surprising and flexible with these little things to satisfy you! You know, this makes a difference.   .

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-22 11:16:24 and read 19352 times.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 28):
What a very nice and entertaining piece! Your friend Satchmo provided you once again with excellent photos troughout the report.

Hi Nils! Thanks so much for your nice comments!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 28):
I loved the series of Air Asia special schemes - although they’re quite horrible imo.

Really? Most of them are very nice IMO.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 28):
Any idea if you got them all?

Almost, yes. But they keep changing them and adding new ones. Here are some more:


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Quoting sultanils (Reply 28):
I do believe this is the first report with the 77W on that sector.

Could be true, yes.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 28):
Lovely airplane but I don’t want to be stuck there on longhaul with the cramped seating and limited comfort.

  

Quoting sultanils (Reply 28):
Oh damn, you got off to a bad start there...

   But it could have been worse...

Quoting sultanils (Reply 28):
Oh really? Have you been to India already as well or another 5th freedom in the Asian region?

The BKK-BOM sector of the trip was operated by a 9W 738.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 28):
From what I heard KUL is a too large airport for the amount of traffic it receives. Any idea if that is still the case?

Yes, but the AirAsia group carriers keep expanding and Malaysia Airlines also seems to be growing again.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 28):
Lucky for user Initious to have scored a ride on one of them!

  

Quoting sultanils (Reply 28):
It is white, yes, a trend in the making maybe with some other airlines shifting to a ‘more white’ scheme as well (Virgin Australia, Finnair,...)

That's definitely a boring trend!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 28):
This sector is likely to be one of the few where KL has decent oneway fares?

Probably, yes. I considered booking BKK-TPE on a KL 744 some weeks ago because it was quite cheap, but the flying times weren't good enough. I found a nice alternative.  

Quoting sultanils (Reply 28):
Wow - I’m impressed. Maybe they wanted to make up for the negative remarks you told them?

Could be one reason.

Quoting rvxkaz (Reply 29):
I've been really busy as of late but just a quick reply on your beautiful TR!
Great photos (as always) detailing the service products of SQ and KL!

Hi rvxkaz, thank you very much for your reply! I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting rvxkaz (Reply 29):
KL indeed offers a highly competitive product on its KUL-CGK route and I hope it stays that way!

Yes, let's hope they won't start serving Jakarta nonstop anytime soon.

Quoting rvxkaz (Reply 29):
Nice to see you managed some spotting at KLIA! Hope your time in SE Asia was as enjoyable as your flights!

Well, I also got sick during the trip, but I still enjoyed it.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 30):
Another corroboration with this mysterious Satchmo! Superb photos, clearly structured and well illustrated. Particularly enjoyed it. There had been a fmaine of good reports for a few days now so this was welcome.

Hi Luke, many thanks for your feedback! Good to hear you enjoyed the story and the pictures.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 30):

I don't really get this. It would cost barely a dime or a second extra to put a classy biscuit, or nibble on there, and would be more aligned to SQ's natural order of service.

I think it was okay - it was already hard to work for the FAs to serve drinks on that full flight.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 30):
Would they have got your a ginger beer if you had asked?

Good question. I'd say yes.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 30):
Was that an expensive rental just for a day?

No, it wasn't expensive. I can look up the price if you want to.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 30):
I also remember the outskirts of the airport being either a worksite or a rubber plantation.

Yes, I noticed all that, too.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 30):
KLM looked more thrilling on this sector Udo. Great report, looking forward to more. . .

Thanks again!

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 31):
Thank you PH...

I'm leaving next Tuesday morning

  

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
great report, nicely designed again and a good amount of great quality pics. Well done Satchmo!

Hi Eric, thank you for commenting!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
But the drink service on these trays... very nice for Y-class isn't it?

Absolutely.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
Lighter weight, cheaper cans, and the passenger still gets the beer he/she asks for. Smart move to make a little cost reduction.

Good point.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
This is similar to the smaller Warsteiner bottles on LH (CityLine?)

Hm, I have never ordered that...  

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
Yes, that exactly is KLM for you. Always surprising and flexible with these little things to satisfy you! You know, this makes a difference.

I have never had bad KLM crews, that's why I still like the airline.


PH

[Edited 2012-02-22 11:29:27]

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: akhmad
Posted 2012-02-22 11:19:57 and read 19352 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Oh, hopefully you won't run into trouble!

You have made a good point here. I have just contacted Silkair to rectify the situation.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
MH or SQ?

MH. My thee came in a cup on accompanying saucer.

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: AlwaysOnAPlane
Posted 2012-02-22 11:54:02 and read 19305 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 14):
I actually took the SIN-KUL shuttle just for fun during one of my stays in Singapore, back then on the 772 when they still had a F cabin on this route. Well, it was a SQ regional style J seat but with an F on the glassware and napkins. Quite a nice meal offered though.

Interesting, good choice. Were you able to finish your meal?

Hi PH.
Yea, I'm sure it was no problem, although I can't for the life in me remember what dish was served?

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-22 12:08:48 and read 19290 times.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 34):
You have made a good point here. I have just contacted Silkair to rectify the situation.

Good decision! You never know.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 34):
MH. My thee came in a cup on accompanying saucer.

Alright. Do you remember the aircraft type?

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 35):
Yea, I'm sure it was no problem, although I can't for the life in me remember what dish was served?

No problem! That happens to me, too.


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: akhmad
Posted 2012-02-22 12:24:12 and read 19270 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 36):
Do you remember the aircraft type?

A300B4-203. Unfortunately I did not memorize the registration. I was nine back then.  

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-22 12:29:46 and read 19258 times.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 37):
A300B4-203. Unfortunately I did not memorize the registration. I was nine back then.

Ah, good old A300B4. I'm pretty sure I flew on such a bird when I was a kid - most likely Hapag Lloyd, but there's no way to find it out.


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: flightsimboy
Posted 2012-02-22 14:18:37 and read 19122 times.

Some more surprises from PH!! Though hints of the surprise are at the start of each TR!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We got possibly the worst seats on the plane - middle seats in the first row of Economy Class.

Fortunately it was just for 40 minutes.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The plane was delivered in April 2009 and is one of 19 A330-343Es in the fleet. 15 more frames are on order.

I seriously had no idea they had that many already. Were these due to the delay with the A350s?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Friendly flight attendants welcomed us on board - but that's what to expect on SIA. However, what I don't like about the famous "Singapore Girls" is the extensive use of makeup - some of them look as if they wear masks!

Like actors in a Chinese Opera!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I didn't find a mistake this time - well done, SIA:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
I couldn’t find any mistake here either - well done, KLM:

Ha,ha...aren't you the Sherlock Holmes of the aviation world lol

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
9V-STE started its unspectacular takeoff roll.

But you cannot disagree there is nothing more gorgeous than seeing an Airbus A330 land on it's tippy toes, as gracefully as a ballerina in dance!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
What we liked most were the AirAsia logojets. This is 9M-AFB, AirAsia's second A320, wearing "Junior Jet Club" colors:

Wow you two got some amazing schemes there!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
All nine two-seat-rows had only been available for an extra charge, so we had reserved a window and an aisle seat in the last 3-4-3 configured row.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
KLM wants an extra €30 if you want to reserve a seat in a row of two:

This is just so bizzare, never heard of any airline do this.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Shortly after we had returned to our seats, the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s. That was a great surprise!

PH you do get some really nice treatment when you bring out your aviation passion to the crews on the flights you travel.   

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: sultanils
Posted 2012-02-22 22:56:50 and read 18822 times.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 33):
Almost, yes. But they keep changing them and adding new ones. Here are some more:

Thanks for looking this up. Now I see them altogether, I must admit there are some nice ones among them. Still I prefer special schemes that are not flying billboards  

Sultanils

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: alexsuprabieber
Posted 2012-02-22 23:32:10 and read 18787 times.

Great trip report thanks for posting

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: ryan h
Posted 2012-02-23 01:22:05 and read 18686 times.

Great report and pictures.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
9M-MTD is one of Malaysia Airlines' new A330-300Es - too much white for my taste:

The new malaysia scheme is one of the new white schemes that I don't think is too bad.

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-23 02:13:34 and read 18636 times.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 40):
Thanks for looking this up.

You're welcome! I agree that some schemes aren't pretty. But it's still nice to see some variety. Other large LCCs with boring fleets could learn a lesson.

Quoting alexsuprabieber (Reply 41):
Great trip report thanks for posting

Many thanks for your comments! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Quoting ryan h (Reply 42):
Great report and pictures.

Hi Ryan, thanks for your reply!

Quoting ryan h (Reply 42):
The new malaysia scheme is one of the new white schemes that I don't think is too bad.

I agree it's not too bad - but it could be a bit more colorful.


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: mxp
Posted 2012-02-23 04:25:48 and read 18481 times.

HI PH
great second part of your trip report.
I was very very waiting for him. I did 3 years ago SIN-KUL with the 772 and in fact the flight was 40% full. And i was surprised of how quick it was
Cannot waiting for next part,also because i have still to decide if include CGK for some spotting in my June holidays. And depends also from what u say
Alberto

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-23 04:59:50 and read 18435 times.

Quoting mxp (Reply 44):
great second part of your trip report.
I was very very waiting for him.

Hi Alberto, many thanks for your comments! I'm glad you liked the second part, too.

Quoting mxp (Reply 44):
Cannot waiting for next part,also because i have still to decide if include CGK for some spotting in my June holidays.

I'm not sure when the third part about CGK and my day trip will be ready, but I can only recommend to include CGK. You find great observation decks there and the variety of airlines/aircraft is excellent.


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: flightsimboy
Posted 2012-02-23 07:24:34 and read 18253 times.

PH, just a bit concerned you did not reply to my comments. You always take time to otherwise   

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: FlyingFinn76
Posted 2012-02-23 08:06:19 and read 18211 times.

Hi PH,

Good to see the second part of your grande Asian trip. SIN-KUL is actually the only flight I've done with SQ, albeit with a 772 back then. This was in 2006 when there were no open skies agreements between Singapore and Malaysia and this route was a duopoly between SQ and MH... I was very impressed by the crew's performance and efficiency on that short hop.

That KLM fifth freedom flight looks okay too. 10 abreast seating sounds quite tight for the triple seven, so good that you only took the tag on segment and not the full AMS-KUL-CGK routing...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We got possibly the worst seats on the plane - middle seats in the first row of Economy Class.

Ouch! That's not very good at all, luckily it was this short hop and not the long TK segments where given your last minute tickets and everything this would've been much more likely.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
VT-JBE is one of 46 737-800s in the Jet Airways fleet. Expect to see a PlaneHunter report about such a bird soon:

Nice, can hardly wait!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
My favorite feature:

Count me in, any day!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I guess the SIN-KUL and KUL-SIN sectors are the only ones in the SIA network without food service in Economy Class, but we were offered tea and coffee, served on small trays:

There was First class on the flight when I flew it (and curiously no business class!) - I wonder what they serve there.

But anyway impressive performance on such a short flight from the Singapore Girls.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We took the Aerotrain to the main terminal and quickly passed immigration - it's such a pleasure to enter Malaysia.

Yes, it is a very nice and a well organized country.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Here's our Proton - a Malaysian car, btw:

Heh, those cars are quite funny. I've seen oen of those in Finland as well!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
In the course of several hours we saw many interesting planes and Satchmo was able to take very nice pictures. What we liked most were the AirAsia logojets.

Wow, they certainly have quite a few colorful and very beautiful logojets. Great!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
9M-MTD is one of Malaysia Airlines' new A330-300Es - too much white for my taste:

Hmm, I don't like this livery at all. The old one is way better.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Awesome plane, beautiful livery:

Agreed. That is indeed one seriously long bird.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
KLM wants an extra €30 if you want to reserve a seat in a row of two:

Really? That's a bit steep IMHO. How much is an exit row seat?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The main course presentation was okay...

Looks nice enough to me. Shame about the taste though.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I had a chilled Heineken with the meal - but I can only wonder why they introduced these tiny 250ml cans:

'cos it's cheaper?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Shortly after we had returned to our seats, the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s. That was a great surprise!   

This was very nice and kind of them! It just goes to show that it definitely pays off to be nice to the cabin crew and have a chat - they can do some very nice things for you.

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-23 11:17:24 and read 18080 times.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 46):
PH, just a bit concerned you did not reply to my comments. You always take time to otherwise

Hi flightsimboy! I enjoyed reading your first comments early in the morning and I have no idea why I forgot to reply. Sorry for that! Your comments are always highly appreciated!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 39):
Some more surprises from PH!! Though hints of the surprise are at the start of each TR!

Many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 39):
Fortunately it was just for 40 minutes.

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 39):
I seriously had no idea they had that many already. Were these due to the delay with the A350s?

Yes, I think it was one reason. However, the efficiency of the A333 was another one.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 39):
Ha,ha...aren't you the Sherlock Holmes of the aviation world lol

  

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 39):

But you cannot disagree there is nothing more gorgeous than seeing an Airbus A330 land on it's tippy toes, as gracefully as a ballerina in dance!!

No, I cannot deny that! But no bird touches down as smoothly as the 777!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 39):
This is just so bizzare, never heard of any airline do this.

Welcome to KLM!   Here's a price list:

http://www.klm.com/travel/nl_en/imag...0flights_en_9nov_tcm542-292692.pdf

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 39):
PH you do get some really nice treatment when you bring out your aviation passion to the crews on the flights you travel.

Yes, it worked out well this time.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
Good to see the second part of your grande Asian trip.

Hi P.,

thanks for your comments!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
SIN-KUL is actually the only flight I've done with SQ, albeit with a 772 back then.

Sounds good!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
10 abreast seating sounds quite tight for the triple seven, so good that you only took the tag on segment and not the full AMS-KUL-CGK routing...

No, I wouldn't book me on a 10 hour flight on KL's 77Ws.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
hat's not very good at all, luckily it was this short hop and not the long TK segments where given your last minute tickets and everything this would've been much more likely.

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
Nice, can hardly wait!

Don't expect it to be online before April.  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
There was First class on the flight when I flew it (and curiously no business class!) - I wonder what they serve there.

Exactly my thoughts.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
But anyway impressive performance on such a short flight from the Singapore Girls.

...and the older guy who was serving us.  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
Yes, it is a very nice and a well organized country.

Absolutely!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
Heh, those cars are quite funny. I've seen oen of those in Finland as well!

Are they sold in Finland?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
Hmm, I don't like this livery at all. The old one is way better.

The old one need a revamping, though.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
Really? That's a bit steep IMHO. How much is an exit row seat?

Here's a detailed price list:

http://www.klm.com/travel/nl_en/imag...0flights_en_9nov_tcm542-292692.pdf

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
'cos it's cheaper?

Most likely...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 47):
This was very nice and kind of them! It just goes to show that it definitely pays off to be nice to the cabin crew and have a chat - they can do some very nice things for you.

No doubt about that!


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: LXM83
Posted 2012-02-24 00:04:58 and read 17699 times.

Hello PlaneHunter

Interesting report. Always nice to get some 5th freedom flights!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Unlike many people, I don't like the bulkhead rows, because I cannot entirely stretch out my legs

I agree with you! Plus it gives you a rather limited view inside the aircraft.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Codeshare partner Air India had sold that early morning Singapore Airlines flight (SQ106 = AI7244) much cheaper than the operator.

I'm suprised twofold here: Fistly because AI is allowed to sell seats between SIN and KUL without any connection on another AI flight, secondly because they are allowed to undersell SQ pricewise.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
There wasn't a choice and I was skeptical that it would be a "delicious meal" as advertised on the pretty foil

Well, wouldn't it be to the customer eating the meal to decide if it was delicious or not? Another example of marketing gone bad here.

Best regards,
LXM83

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-24 00:45:51 and read 17667 times.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 49):
Interesting report. Always nice to get some 5th freedom flights!

Hi LXM83, thanks for replying!

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 49):
I agree with you! Plus it gives you a rather limited view inside the aircraft.

  

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 49):
I'm suprised twofold here: Fistly because AI is allowed to sell seats between SIN and KUL without any connection on another AI flight, secondly because they are allowed to undersell SQ pricewise.

Good points. SIA's fare was about twice as high if I remember correctly.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 49):

Well, wouldn't it be to the customer eating the meal to decide if it was delicious or not? Another example of marketing gone bad here.

Absolutely!


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: 717Flyer
Posted 2012-02-24 02:32:20 and read 17618 times.

Hi PH,

Very nice to see the next part of your Asian adventure popping online and a very nice comparison between Singapore Airlines and KLM. You are a good salesman - based on reading your report I would happily fly either of them any day.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Friendly flight attendants welcomed us on board - but that's what to expect on SIA. However, what I don't like about the famous "Singapore Girls" is the extensive use of makeup - some of them look as if they wear masks!

Yes, have they ever heard of anything called inner beauty?  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After boarding had been completed, the captain made a welcome speech and announced a flying time of 40 minutes for this short segment - SIA's shortest, by the way. The captain also referred to a cruising altitude of 6000 meters.

Very interesting. You mentioned you got the flight cheaper via Air India codeshare, now some closer financial information about the ticket prices would be greatly appreciated.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
guess the SIN-KUL and KUL-SIN sectors are the only ones in the SIA network without food service in Economy Class, but we were offered tea and coffee, served on small trays:

Still very stylish not to just serve the drinks in plain cups, but on trays instead.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
9M-MTD is one of Malaysia Airlines' new A330-300Es - too much white for my taste:

I wonder what is up with airlines nowadays - everyone is fancying white planes. Needless to say I am also referring to Finnair's new livery. With a little bit of snow on the ground you won't even be able to see their plane. Now that is good PR!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I guess KLM is quite popular on the route due to its relatively low fares.

Again, some further information would be nice.  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
KLM wants an extra €30 if you want to reserve a seat in a row of two:

30 EUR per seat? That's quite a high price.

Finally it was really nice to see the KLM crew go the extra mile - I'd take such friendly behavior over a Singapore girl any day...

Regards,
717Flyer

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-24 09:07:37 and read 17374 times.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 51):
Very nice to see the next part of your Asian adventure popping online and a very nice comparison between Singapore Airlines and KLM. You are a good salesman - based on reading your report I would happily fly either of them any day.

Hi 717Flyer, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 51):
Yes, have they ever heard of anything called inner beauty?

Who knows...many of their FAs would definitely look nicer without makeup.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 51):
Very interesting. You mentioned you got the flight cheaper via Air India codeshare, now some closer financial information about the ticket prices would be greatly appreciated.

I don't go into detail about fares here, but I'll let you know.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 51):
With a little bit of snow on the ground you won't even be able to see their plane.

At least that cannot happen in Malaysia...  

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 51):
30 EUR per seat? That's quite a high price.

Yes, especially for such a short flight.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 51):
Finally it was really nice to see the KLM crew go the extra mile - I'd take such friendly behavior over a Singapore girl any day...

  


PH

[Edited 2012-02-24 09:08:12]

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: The777Man
Posted 2012-02-24 11:34:10 and read 17294 times.

Hi PlaneHunter !

Thanks for another amazing report with amazing pictures !

Too bad you got bulkhead seat with not so great legroom on SQ; some carriers have more legroom in the bulkhead though.

Perhaps the reason for lots of make up is that it WILL look like a mask  

I've only flown SIN-KUL once in 1994 on a SQ 312 and I remember it was a very short flight.

I also stayed at the Concorde Inn when I was there in Oct99. Remember that it was not a great hotel.

Spotting seems to have been very good for you there! Lots of new numbers!

Nice that you flew the KL 77W and especially on such a short flight; doesn't look too comfortable.

No surprise that they serve Heineken since they are a Dutch carrier but I would also prefer Tiger  

Great views from the hotel at CGK!

Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: byronicle6
Posted 2012-02-24 21:21:10 and read 17101 times.

Hi PH!

Really enjoyed the second installment of your trip around SE Asia, and great photos Satchmo!
Glad to hear this part went much smoother than the first
Particularly enjoyed the SQ flight and KUL spotting photos, but surprised you were not offered something even slightly more substantial for the short SIN-KUL hop. Seems very distant from their usual offering on longer flights.
I really like the "WOW" and "Junior Jet Club" liveries

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
My favorite feature:

I love how clear and detailed the Flight map feature is on SQ A333, 77W & A380 's. I was glued to it on my SQ flights to NRT

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-26 04:37:22 and read 16543 times.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 53):
Thanks for another amazing report with amazing pictures !

Hi Lars, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 53):
Perhaps the reason for lots of make up is that it WILL look like a mask

 

Quoting The777Man (Reply 53):
I also stayed at the Concorde Inn when I was there in Oct99. Remember that it was not a great hotel.

Unfortunately, there aren't many alternatives.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 53):
Spotting seems to have been very good for you there! Lots of new numbers!

Absolutely!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 53):
Great views from the hotel at CGK!

I'll definitely choose that hotel again.

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 54):
Really enjoyed the second installment of your trip around SE Asia, and great photos Satchmo!
Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 54):
Particularly enjoyed the SQ flight and KUL spotting photos

Hi byronicle6, thanks for your comments! I'm glad you enjoyed the second part, too.

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 54):
but surprised you were not offered something even slightly more substantial for the short SIN-KUL hop. Seems very distant from their usual offering on longer flights.

Well, the crew didn't have much time for the service.

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 54):
I love how clear and detailed the Flight map feature is on SQ A333, 77W & A380 's. I was glued to it on my SQ flights to NRT

But it's difficult to take decent pictures of the screens.


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: abrelosojos
Posted 2012-02-26 23:00:23 and read 16254 times.

Very cool report - I was pretty impressed by the action of the KL crew. They still remain one of the few crews in Europe that deliver a consistently good service. Looking forward to the next few.

Saludos,
A.

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: OA260
Posted 2012-02-28 10:08:17 and read 15831 times.

Hey Udo very nice report and pics. I like the KLM interior cabin but not the 10 abreast seating. Id deffo pay the EUR30 if I was taking them in Y .

Really nice to read about the crew and makes such a big difference and impression when they are like this.

Hope they log on to see your report.  

Regards

Philip  

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-02-29 03:18:59 and read 15622 times.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 56):
Very cool report

Hi Alex, many thanks!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 56):
They still remain one of the few crews in Europe that deliver a consistently good service.

The crews have always been nice on my KL flights.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 57):
Hey Udo very nice report and pics.

Thanks for your comments, Philip!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 57):
Id deffo pay the EUR30 if I was taking them in Y .

I'd only pay it on a long-haul flight.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 57):
Really nice to read about the crew and makes such a big difference and impression when they are like this.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 57):
Hope they log on to see your report.

  


PH

[Edited 2012-02-29 03:19:48]

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: ronerone
Posted 2012-02-29 10:43:06 and read 15492 times.

PH,

Another excellent report with great pictures! I think the PH/Satchmo codeshare is very productive when it comes to TRs, so i hope you both keep the momentum going  

SQ's A330 is quite slick but i found their J seat to be awful in terms of comfort. While they aren't usually an airline i select to fly, i am definitely looking forward to my Y class experience on the final 747 flight soon  

But KLM is what caught my attention most in this TR, and i am always amazed at the picture perfect consistency in their service. You know exactly what to expect on KLM. Even when the expectation may not be too high -and KLM doesn't ever set your expectations to unrealistic levels- just the fact that you know what you're getting somewhat yields a positive result. In my many years of hauling KLM across the atlantic during the 90's, i do not recall a single 'bad' flight. And i think it takes a lot of effort for an airline to maintain this on a constant.

By the way, i think that 'Economy' label on the seat is so Air France, but in KLM style  

Thanks a lot for sharing!

Cheers,
Roni

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: MSS658
Posted 2012-03-01 01:45:20 and read 15312 times.

Hi PH

Great work you have done there. In first place I'm glad you could resume your schedule as planned!
Too bad you had the middle seat on your SQ leg, but better that on a 30min flight than a 10hr flight.
Quite surprised you got coffee on that short flight.
KL looks good as standard, just the 10-abreast configuration does not look that comfortalbe.

Greetings
Marc

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: eastafspot
Posted 2012-03-02 13:42:30 and read 14982 times.

Hey PH,

Another great report, lovely pictures especially from your spotting session in Kuala Lumpur. how many different liveries do Air Asia have?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
KLM wants an extra €30 if you want to reserve a seat in a row of two:

Seriously? i fear the day when the window seats will be in extra too...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
I had a chilled Heineken with the meal

What happened to you? no ginger ale on KL?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Shortly after we had returned to our seats, the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s. That was a great surprise!

OMG really impressive!

looking forward to read the continuation

EAS

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-03-06 08:39:47 and read 14517 times.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 59):
Another excellent report with great pictures!

Hi Roni, thanks a lot for your nice comments!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 59):
I think the PH/Satchmo codeshare is very productive when it comes to TRs, so i hope you both keep the momentum going

I'm sure there will be many more PH/Satchmo trip reports in the future.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 59):
SQ's A330 is quite slick but i found their J seat to be awful in terms of comfort.

That sounds very bad.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 59):
While they aren't usually an airline i select to fly, i am definitely looking forward to my Y class experience on the final 747 flight soon

Wow - I'm looking forward to the report. Have fun!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 59):
You know exactly what to expect on KLM. Even when the expectation may not be too high -and KLM doesn't ever set your expectations to unrealistic levels- just the fact that you know what you're getting somewhat yields a positive result.

Well said!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 59):
In my many years of hauling KLM across the atlantic during the 90's, i do not recall a single 'bad' flight.

That's indeed remarkable.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 60):
Great work you have done there. In first place I'm glad you could resume your schedule as planned!

Thanks for replying, Marc! Yes, it was nice to be able to take that SQ flight as planned.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 60):
Too bad you had the middle seat on your SQ leg, but better that on a 30min flight than a 10hr flight.

  

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 60):
KL looks good as standard, just the 10-abreast configuration does not look that comfortalbe.

It wouldn't be so bad if they had more pitch.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 61):
Another great report, lovely pictures especially from your spotting session in Kuala Lumpur.

Hi EAS, many thanks for your feedback! I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 61):
how many different liveries do Air Asia have?

Between 10 and 15, they keep changing all the time.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 61):
Seriously? i fear the day when the window seats will be in extra too...

Don't give them any ideas!   Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised to see that in the future.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 61):
What happened to you? no ginger ale on KL?

Sometimes I prefer a beer.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 61):
OMG really impressive!

  

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 61):
looking forward to read the continuation

Part III is almost ready.


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: LH4116
Posted 2012-03-06 13:32:44 and read 14408 times.

Hey PH, finally found some time to read your report, and I must say you've made a great job as always!   

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Codeshare partner Air India had sold that early morning Singapore Airlines flight (SQ106 = AI7244) much cheaper than the operator.

So I assume the code-shares were one of the reasons Air India applied for their membership in *A, such a shame they couldn't join, but I suppose the whole airline industry in India is a mess at the moment.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The plane was delivered in April 2009 and is one of 19 A330-343Es in the fleet. 15 more frames are on order.

Ah, so it seems the E is indeed a new sub-sub type. So glad to have left an impression on you 
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Unlike many people, I don't like the bulkhead rows, because I cannot entirely stretch out my legs:

Well there's always the wall to stretch out the legs on, but I suppose that's a question of manners. Also with the video-screens on the wall it might not be the best idea.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I guess the SIN-KUL and KUL-SIN sectors are the only ones in the SIA network without food service in Economy Class, but we were offered tea and coffee, served on small trays:

As much as I like those extra touches in the in-flight service, the tray looks just excessive. They could've just gone for paper cups. Also was that sugar SQ branded as well?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
KLM wants an extra €30 if you want to reserve a seat in a row of two:

That's poor. Then again the Dutch are world-famous for being cheap, they do after all charge for toilet visits at Michelin Restaurants, and the ketchup sachets at McDonald's  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
That main course reminded me of a cheap instant meal from the supermarket.

Actually it is a cheap TV-dinner. KLM have for years branded their meals with Uncle Ben's. Lately though it has been met with some protests from pax, so they've removed the branding, but the meals are the same. Again the dutch cheapness  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Shortly after we had returned to our seats, the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s. That was a great surprise!

Now that's a very nice touch, such a shame you didn't take any pictures of the Delft Blue Houses.

Thanks for sharing
//Jonas

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-03-06 15:20:36 and read 14369 times.

Hi Jonas,

I feel a bit uncomfortable with you reply on PH's report; sorry to get back on this

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 63):
That's poor. Then again the Dutch are world-famous for being cheap, they do after all charge for toilet visits at Michelin Restaurants,

Poor? Really a lot of airlines ask money for exit rows, or rows-of-2. It's not 'Dutch cheapness' at all. Actually Jonas, you're studying marketing isn't it? That's also about making money a bit? Maybe this is a way to earn some cash. Apparently people excist who want to pay for the seat, so why shouldn't they take the chance?

I know, it's you who want to sit on exactly those seats for free..., so you better don't fly KLM in the future then.

You statement about the restaurants is pure nonsense afaik. You will probably never eat there either, because in Michelin restaurants you get small amounts of food for sky high prices. Swedish people better set at Ikea.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 63):
the ketchup sachets at McDonald's

Again, there are other countries who charge also for these supplements. Where this stuff is for free, a lot is taken but left unused and thrown away. Total waste.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 63):
Actually it is a cheap TV-dinner. KLM have for years branded their meals with Uncle Ben's.

You home airline doesn't serve anything except coffee for free, plus it's not a bad meal. You eat this stuff at home also from time to time. Of course there are better meals out, but when you fly to the USA you might have to stick with a pizza slice or fat cheeseburger...

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 63):
Again the dutch cheapness

Sorry to say, but you are cheap, in a very excessive way.

Eric

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: LH4116
Posted 2012-03-06 16:23:03 and read 14341 times.

Hoi Eric,

First of all I didn't mean to offend, I was more expressing my way in a jokeful manner (hence the exaggeration with the michelin restaurant). Also I mean nothing personal. And I am sorry if I may have offended you or any of your countrymen. Holland is a beautiful country, with friendly people, and cookies to die for  

Marketing is not all about trying to make as much money as possible, it also about maintaining customer relations. Charging for exit seats is ok, or they should be given to elites for free. Charging for 2-seaters IMHO is over the line, the same way charging for toilet visits at clubs and ketchup at McD's is over the line. Of course culture and customer expectations matter in this as well.

About the TV-meals I've nothing against them in general. But serving them on an airline is not okay, as it just indicates that they don't care much for the pax (pre-fabricated = no care, compared to cooked from scratch). Also it sends out the wrong impression about airline meals (a TV-meal is very stereotypical to the bad food 90% of pax expect to be served on planes, etc).

Of course, no pun for KLM, one of my favourite airlines. They always provide good and conststent service, friendly crews and clean aircraft. They will always be better than SAS (as long as they stay a LCC'ish airline).

//Jonas

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: signol
Posted 2012-03-07 17:53:45 and read 14091 times.

Hi PH,

great report as always!

A pity you had middle seats, every A.netter's 2nd worst nightmare (after a window seat with no window   ) Still, on such a short flight that's not a major issue. And if it was cloudy, there wouldn't have been much to see anyway.

Some nice pictures from the "jungle" spotting place, shame about the rubbish. Some people have no respect - how hard is it to take it with you and put in a bin somewhere?

Good service as usual on KL. The meal looks ok, I've had a few of this style (though not that actual one) and all were quite tasty, only problem is they are too small! And great that the crew gave you some extra gifts - if only they did that for everyone taking pictures  

Thanks again

signol

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-03-09 08:57:05 and read 13797 times.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 63):
Hey PH, finally found some time to read your report, and I must say you've made a great job as always!

Hi Jonas, thank you for commenting! Good to hear you enjoyed it.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 63):
I suppose the whole airline industry in India is a mess at the moment.

Jet Airways seems to be doing well - report about its quality product to follow!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 63):
Ah, so it seems the E is indeed a new sub-sub type. So glad to have left an impression on you

I don't count it as a sub-type, I just chose the complete designation.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 63):
As much as I like those extra touches in the in-flight service, the tray looks just excessive. They could've just gone for paper cups.

Well, that wouldn't be SQ-style.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 63):
Also was that sugar SQ branded as well?

I don't remember. It used to be in former times.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 63):

That's poor. Then again the Dutch are world-famous for being cheap, they do after all charge for toilet visits at Michelin Restaurants, and the ketchup sachets at McDonald's

You find these charges in many countries - I could tell you numerous examples from Germany.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 63):
Actually it is a cheap TV-dinner. KLM have for years branded their meals with Uncle Ben's. Lately though it has been met with some protests from pax, so they've removed the branding, but the meals are the same.

It never ceases to amaze me how different the catering is on AF and KL.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 63):
Now that's a very nice touch

  

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 64):
Really a lot of airlines ask money for exit rows, or rows-of-2. It's not 'Dutch cheapness' at all.

Yes indeed.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 64):
Where this stuff is for free, a lot is taken but left unused and thrown away. Total waste.

Very good point.

Quoting signol (Reply 66):

great report as always!

Hi signol, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting signol (Reply 66):
A pity you had middle seats, every A.netter's 2nd worst nightmare (after a window seat with no window

  

Quoting signol (Reply 66):
Some nice pictures from the "jungle" spotting place, shame about the rubbish. Some people have no respect - how hard is it to take it with you and put in a bin somewhere?

Well said, I can only agree.

Quoting signol (Reply 66):
The meal looks ok, I've had a few of this style (though not that actual one) and all were quite tasty, only problem is they are too small!

That's true. AF's portions are larger.

Quoting signol (Reply 66):
And great that the crew gave you some extra gifts - if only they did that for everyone taking pictures

  


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2012-03-09 12:15:52 and read 13737 times.

Great report PH, an enjoyable read this Friday night.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Flight duration: 00:32 (hrs)

- Wow, must be one of the shortest widebody flights.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Satchmo quickly went to the back of our section to take a cabin picture:

- Nice looking cabin!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I guess the SIN-KUL and KUL-SIN sectors are the only ones in the SIA network without food service in Economy Class, but we were offered tea and coffee, served on small trays:

- Is it really worth it on such as short duration?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
If you don't have a car, you can visit the observation deck in the main terminal. But be aware that it's difficult to take decent pictures through the windows. Apart from that, many planes are too far away. The facility is nice for registration spotters, though.

- The observation deck sounds good for me  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I logged a total of 98 new registrations during our two-day stay which wasn't bad.

- Have you been before? - I'd have expected more to be honest.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
neither the chicken satay nor the rice tasted good. That main course reminded me of a cheap instant meal from the supermarket. The chocolate cake with vanilla sauce and the cucumber and apple salad weren't bad, but the latter contained hard pieces of apple skin.

- But not bad for such a short flight.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I had a chilled Heineken with the meal - but I can only wonder why they introduced these tiny 250ml cans:

- Never seen such small beer cans, not the way forward!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s. That was a great surprise!

- How cool! - Impressed!

Cheers

Mark

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-03-21 05:57:15 and read 12875 times.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 68):
Great report PH, an enjoyable read this Friday night.

Hi Mark, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 68):
Wow, must be one of the shortest widebody flights.

  

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 68):
Is it really worth it on such as short duration?

It seems SIA wants to make a difference.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 68):
The observation deck sounds good for me

Yes, it's a nice facility.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 68):
Have you been before? - I'd have expected more to be honest.

Yes, I had been there before. And you naturally miss numerous movements due to size and layout of the airport.


PH

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: parton87
Posted 2012-04-04 04:32:57 and read 11719 times.

Hello PH!

Thanks for the nice continueation of your Asia travels! Both SIA and KLM looks good on this short flights! Never flown on SIA but with KLM for the the first time last month. Logged four flights with them and was very satisfied with there service!

Nice with some spotting! Great pictures!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Here's our Proton - a Malaysian car, btw:

Never heard of that car brand!? A very cute little car! How much did you paid for it?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Nevertheless, I guess one should always keep a proper distance to the dense bushes - you never know what creatures may live there

Probably a good idea!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
9M-MTD is one of Malaysia Airlines' new A330-300Es - too much white for my taste

I agree. The old livery looks better.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Awesome plane, beautiful livery

Indeed it´s. Very impressive

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
that's what you can usually rely on when flying KLM

I can only agree on that too. As I said I log four KL flights last month and the crew´s was nice on all flights.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The scenery outside looked threatening in the evening sun - these thick clouds appeared while we were still flying at cruising altitude

Looks threathing indeed but very beautiful!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Shortly after we had returned to our seats, the purser came back and gave us two bags with presents - amenity kits from Business Class and Bols filled miniature Delft Blue houses offered to international Business Class passengers since the 1950s. That was a great surprise!

Very nice gesture!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Finally, she wrote down the airliners.net web address as well as my username and asked for our seat numbers.

Hehe cool, it would been interesting to know if she read this report.

So, part three already read and replied so I jump over to part four 

Thanks again for the story

Greetings

Robert

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: initious
Posted 2012-04-07 08:33:28 and read 11274 times.

Hi PH,

Great to see that you had a hell of an adventure after landing into Singapore. It is definitely a bonus to be flying on SQ's new A333s for SIN-KUL. However, I'd have to say that it is too short a flight to enjoy anything!

Thanks for the dedication on 9M-FFF! Glad that I managed to log that before FY decided to retire their B738s.

The interior of KLM's B77W looks wonderful although I have to agree that 3-4-3 seems way too squeezy. I'd have to experience that for myself on my OQ flight this coming June.

KL is definitely on my list, whether SIN-DPS or KUL-CGK!

Regards,
Daniel

Topic: RE: Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-04-14 08:33:23 and read 10742 times.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 70):

Thanks for the nice continueation of your Asia travels!
Quoting parton87 (Reply 70):
Thanks again for the story

Hi Robert, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting parton87 (Reply 70):
Never flown on SIA but with KLM for the the first time last month. Logged four flights with them and was very satisfied with there service!

That's good to hear!

Quoting parton87 (Reply 70):
How much did you paid for it?

I cannot remember, Satchmo reserved the car. I'll check again.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 70):
I agree. The old livery looks better.

I'm not a fan of the old livery either...let's see how the new blue-dominated livery will look like in reality.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 70):
Hehe cool, it would been interesting to know if she read this report.

Yes, would be interesting to know!

Quoting initious (Reply 71):
Great to see that you had a hell of an adventure after landing into Singapore.

Hi Daniel, thanks a lot for your reply!

Quoting initious (Reply 71):
It is definitely a bonus to be flying on SQ's new A333s for SIN-KUL. However, I'd have to say that it is too short a flight to enjoy anything!

Yes, I have to agree.

Quoting initious (Reply 71):
Thanks for the dedication on 9M-FFF!

You're welcome!

Quoting initious (Reply 71):
Glad that I managed to log that before FY decided to retire their B738s.

It's too bad that all 737s were retired.

Quoting initious (Reply 71):
I'd have to experience that for myself on my OQ flight this coming June.

I'm already looking forward to your report!

Quoting initious (Reply 71):
KL is definitely on my list, whether SIN-DPS or KUL-CGK!

Yes, I can only recommend to try KL's 777 on these routes.


PH

[Edited 2012-04-14 08:33:53]


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