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Topic: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-08-28 09:07:26 and read 14615 times.

Dear readers,

Welcome to my latest tripreport, of a trip made around the sole purpose of getting a ride on the Alitalia Airbus A330-200. A while ago fellow tripreporter "JL418" mentioned that the Italian airline was putting this oversized type on their trunk route FCO-MXP on Thursday early morning flights in August. I had a look in my agenda and worked out a trip, which should also help me to higher levels in the Skyteam alliance.

In addition to this, my friend Robert (Parton87) from Sweden figured out that we could make a small meet and greet in Rome and do the A330 together, and of course, have a dinner in town. He also made a trip for himself and I'm sure we will read about it some day too!

Al(l) Italia: 4 flights & the domestic ‘Magnifica’ A330-200!




Well, after a short night it was time to hit the skies on Wednesday, August 15 2012. I left home at 08:30am, 1h15min should be fine to get everything done e.g. printing out my boarding pass after again online check-in issues with AZ. Additionally I wanted to ask a question to the KLM reservation desk staff about another upcoming trip to the USA. I had 1 hour till departure once I arrived at AMS and got everything done.

The security check for 'Sky Priority' was unexpectedly slightly busy, but after a while staff took me over to the 'Privium lane' which speeded up things a bit. Unfortunately the officer put my bag already towards the x-ray so I told him to grab it back because a bag with liquids was inside (more them my usual little amount). When I took it apart he suddenly said 'take your camera out!' I obliged but told him to stop this stupid behavior because if I didn't told him to stop the bag from x-raying, it was not a problem at all, plus, there is no such rule to have cameras apart during screening.

Anyway, no big issues and through in minutes, airport people where around with questionnaires again, this time I denied. My gate was at the C-concourse, not too much of a walk. While nearing my gate (C16), I encountered with the newly opened Cafe Comunal, serving South American flavours and Cruzcampo   I'll try one next time... It was not beer-time yet.


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The new “Cafe Comunal”



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Surely this is your typical Amsterdam scene. Blue still rules. Bonjour Air France!


Boarding started almost when I got there, and priority calles where duly made for Skyteam Elite (Plus) members. This is quite a consistent service enforced by KLM ground staff, which I really appreciate.

AMS-TRN
Flight: AZ119 /15AUG12
STD 09:55 ATD 09:39
STA 11:30 ATA 11:12
A/C: EI-RDD (Embraer 175)
S/N: 02F (Economy class/Y)


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Onboard I take my seat in row 2, business class remains empty on this flight. What I noticed is the misaligned windows on these Embraer of AZ, I've not had this before on my other flights on this family (BA, KL, LH, EN, LO). Another thing is the bad seatpitch since my knees touch the seat in front all the time. Moreover, AZ uses a 'sliding seat', so when reclining, the back actually goes backwards, but the seat cushion slides forward, reducing legroom even more. Other then that the cushion is of hard leather look material, making it one of the most uncomfortable seats I've been on till today.

Departure is early, which is good. But when I overhear the load of only 31 passengers (27% loadfactor), it's not a big surprise really.


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Cabin/Seating picture: misaligned windows on these Italian Embraers. Hmm…



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Legroom on the Alitalia Embraer 175



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Business Class row one does not look good with a missing window



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SAS does it retro in the morning


I am made aware of the dangerous side effects that my digital camera might have on the aircraft control (yeah, sure!), but since that moment I'm watched more closely since I am in viewpoint from the forward jumpseat.

Taxiing is done at a speedy pace, meanwhile a manual safety demonstration in Italian/English language. We taxi to runway 09, it does not take long to line up and get airborne.

Shame indeed that I can't make pictures, since the busy apron with loads of widebodies is a great view from my seat, e.g. 10 Delta Airlines widebodies parked around the E concourse.

The climb is smooth, and when we reach a higher level soon, I grab my new iPad to put on music and start writing this report.


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After takeoff from Amsterdam



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A little glimpse of (closed) Soesterberg Air Force Base (EHSB)


The first hour is very uneventful, apart from the service which consists of drinks and a snack in the form of 2 little cookies. I ask 2 drinks and that was promptly answered. Interesting to see peach juice on this flight. I decided to take this. Furthermore which got my attraction is that the cockpit door was kept open during the complete cruise, and the crew were happily talking all together. With the curtains closed though, but still against ANY regulation and an possible unsafe situation. Why all the fuss about my camera then? Go figure!


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Economy Class Service



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Clear and smooth ride over Germany



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…and Switzerland. Here the city of Luzern and the famous peak ‘Pilatus’


At some point the Alps mountain range comes insight. And even better, clear views above my beloved Bernese Oberland region. I easily spot the central city of Interlaken, Brienzersee (Lake Brienz) and Thunersee (Lake Thun). Of course, the 3 big peaks (Eiger, Jungfraujoch, Mönch) are visible. A while later I follow the Furkapass road (I've driven this area completely by car) and spot the Rhone glacier as well. Awh... I want to go back here to drive around and go hiking in these mountains.


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Brienzersee, the city of Interlaken in between and Thunersee overflying the Bernese Oberland



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Big three: Eiger (13,025ft), Jungfraujoch (11,388ft), Mönch (13,474ft) (among others).



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The Rhone Glacier below


Soon more clouds move in over southern Switzerland, so I can't see much more now, but anyway... this was a real treat!


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Entering Italian airspace


We make a righthand turn towards Turin, and start descend. The flightdeck informs in a quick message that landing would be in 20 minutes at TRN, the weather sunny and 25°C. He thanks for flying with Alitalia.

The cabin is prepared and I must say that the purser was nice to me when I mentioned that the load was so bad but it was good for them, or a quiet flight. He replied by mentioning that they have a very long working day... So it was good to have a low load. His boss thinks different, hopefully.

Before landing on runway 36 in complete northerly direction we overfly the city, which seems like being made in the block-style layout which I remember from Barcelona. It keeps the air flowing at ground level on hot days, I've been told long ago.

Well, landing was performed and it took a few minutes to reach our stand on the apron. Disembarking was by steps and onto the awaiting Cobus.


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AleniaAermacchi industries are around here



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Something to catch for me also is this colourful cute Dornier 328Jet



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Shiny fuselage when I disembark


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A final view on EI-RDD, seen from the bus


When I walk into the terminal building I follow the 'transit' signs which -after a detour- leads me to a security checkpoint. No staff here, everything closed. I had to ring a bell and minutes later staff shows up. I beep but can walk in/out again and found 'OK', my bag goes through including liquida, camera, iPad... No problem for these Italians.

But this transit lane makes not much sense... Maybe re-enter completely is consuming the same amount of time?


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Turin; a real busy place with loads of transit passengers…


In TRN I find a well kept terminal, offering some shops selling the typical Italian design brands, 2 places to have your caffeine shot and in a certain area it is possible to leech off the Alitalia WiFi network from the VIP lounge. To obtain access you first need to receive a sms though.


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Lights off? In the middle one of the few espresso bars



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Shopping is always good in Italy and some nice brands can be found at airports



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Ciao, Windjet! I considered flying you. Luckily I didn’t! Next please…



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Jonas would love this. It has “Great TV” too! Good tasty coffee btw


I sit down to check e-mail and try to do online check-in for the flights tomorrow, but AZ replies that I need to see airport staff for my A330 flight and also the flights on UX are not eligible 'from this airport' (MXP). Life is so easy these days, sigh  

Suddenly I hear a call for Mister 'Eric' to Bari. Hey, that seems me! I take my trusty LowePro (hence also purchased by another member lol), and go to gate number 7, where a friendly female groundstaff is waiting for me.
A busgate here, I'm on the second bus with a few others only. When I enter I was clearly last, since we leave immediately. My aircraft is parked next to the -now closed off- Embraer 175 which flew me in (I thought that crew had such a long day today?).


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I-BIMA, the only Italian registered and their oldest Airbus A319 for me


TRN-BRI
Flight: AZ1640 /15AUG12
STD 12:40 ATD 12:38
STA 14:10 ATA 14:04
A/C: I-BIMA (Airbus A319)
S/N: 03F (Economy class/Y)


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As expected, an Airbus A319, and an oldie she is. Boarding via the forward door and I think that this bird is in urgent need for a repainting job. The Italian sun damages the paint, like it's human skin.


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Give me new paint. Per favore!!


When I step inside, a friendly 'bon giorno' and boarding pass is checked. I'm in row 3, whichnis in the 'business class cabin' or just in front of the curtain here. The middle seat is empty and I am comfortable here. Legroom is good, and not that stupid sliding style seat as I got on Alitalia CityLiner.

Departure is just taxi out from the stand, a little ahead of schedule. Good performance here as well. The safety demo is on the overhead dropdown screens, hardly visible though. But it takes a while and are already on the runway when it finishes. I notice that the purser pushes the 'cabin safe' button on the ceiling of the forward galley, and immediately thrust applied and we were rolling down the runway. It gives a bit rushed feeling to me.


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Taxiing out. ‘cheaper’ MeridianaFly is using the jetty. Alitalia does it cheap style by bus



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Beautiful DC-3: I-LEON of Linee Aeree Italiane



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…and up in the air again. View towards the airport



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Good legroom here


Service on this flight is free drinks only and I get coffee and water. The coffee is good here, but they serve only half filled cups. Probably espresso style, who knows.


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Alitalia domestic service and my tripreport being written



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Calm flight crossing Italy


I doze off for some moments too, music on, sun in my face. Soon we would be landing too, since I woke up when the cabin was already checked. I notice a lot of agriculture around Bari, mostly trees. I think they grow olives here?
Minutes later we touch the concrete of runway 07 and slow down quickly so we can use an intersection to vacate the runway. On the apron here I only see 2 Ryanair Boeing 737-800's, and we park at gate 3, next to one of these examples departing to MST. I wonder if these flights are a success, since from the air, this region doesn't attract me, but I can be wrong too.


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At BRI, parking next to Ryanair (this one is ready for MST)


In a change to both Ryanair flights, we use the jetty to disembark and I'm off quickly. Once inside the building (they're expanding it), I do not see any signage stating transfer, hence I decide to go in the pulic.

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Deplane via the jetty at BRI



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Another boring Italian airport corridor



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It’s booming here… in need for expansion? Apperentely they do!



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Baggage reclaim area



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Once outside, this is the terminal building from outside


I wanted to print out a original boarding pass here, so I first went to the self service kiosk, where I was very surprised to see my seat, after several hours of trying online check in the day before and finally managed to score 01F, was now changed to 09D. WTF?! It is not even a window. I check the seatmap and notice a change of aircraft, from A321 to the smaller A320. Still, it does not make sense to relocate the forward rows in my opinion, but anyway. In the aft cabin it seems basically nobody was sitting, so I opt for 28F here. OK for me.


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Alitalia Check-In. Looks like a pretty set up this way!



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Please… no aisle seat!


I try to connect the internet on my phone via the free WiFi (?) offered, but it does not make connection at all. Of course also these things are part of life in these airports.

Security was a breeze here, no beeps or further checks. A few small shops in the clean area, but some are closed. Gate number 4 for my flight to Rome, and indeed, an A320 is being prepared. It's one in Alitalia livery for me.


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FIDS



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Departure Lounge



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The Airbus A320-200 for my flight to FCO


Boarding is announced really early also here, and when I judge the amount of people around, indeed a light load is to be expected.

BRI-FCO
Flight: AZ1616 /15AUG12
STD 15:10 ATD 14:59
STA 16:20 ATA 15:59
A/C: EI-DSO (Airbus A320-200)
S/N: 28F (Economy class/Y)


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Onboard I am friendly greeted, by all 4 crewmembers. Especially an older male is super friendly and even in for a little chat when he recognizes my picture taking of the blowing airconditioning. I haven't seen this for a while, let alone on these newer Airbuses.
The small screens are working this time (first time for me!), but the safety demo is done the old fashioned way or manually. Dropdown screens like on the much older A319 I just flew are not installed on this aircraft either. Sometimes this company is hard to follow...so many difference. You just don't know what to expect.


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Cabin view on boarding



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Air Conditioning Blowing around



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… because I like it


We leave early by about 10 minutes, another great performance here. We taxi out to runway 07 again for take off after a Ryanair 737 lands. I can see the airport during climb as well Bari and it's port fom where you can take long distance ferries to Greece.


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Lining up the runway



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Airborne! See the ferries along side in the port



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Then it’s blue… the sea and sky are with you here


The flight is smooth and standard by now. Drinks served, my usual selection again on AZ. Friendly served, and this male F/A answers on my request for coffee that I probably need it because the hot sun makes you feel tired. Well, I think he is right about it.
Meanwhile a female passenger is relocating herself from the last row (30C) to 28C. Why exactly row 28, when 29, 27, 26 where also completely unused... I do not know.


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Drink service


Before arrival the weather forecast is given for Rome FCO: good conditions and 29°C. The F/A tells me later that it was probably more hot. Once again, he was proven right.

During approach I notice one bad thing again, with the cabin preperation. My bag was not under the seat, as well that lady in 28C, her large bag was located on seat 28B. So the crew was not keeping good attention... where have I seen this before?!


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Moments before landing: the cabin was ‘not secure’


Landing was very smooth, like kissing a runway surface, real good. Taxiing was fast Italian driving, just minutes later we arrive at an unknown parking stand all the way from runway 16L.


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Alitalia does it retro too. The most beautiful one in Europe I think



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For our Belgian and Spanish members… almost there!


A real friendly arriverdeci when I leave, also the captain is at doorside to say goodbye.

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Here stops my flying for day 1, since I will meet with Robert now for a dinner together. I go to town by Terravision coaches, return for EUR 8,00, a good price but it is very busy at busstop no3 at the busstation. Though the 2nd bus is mine, and Terravision staff keep good control that everybody behaves and waits patiently.
The bus itself is kept in good shape inside, and the ride takes me 35 minutes instead of the expected 1 hour. It is a half past 5pm when I meet up at Termini railway station. We walk slowly to a calm street where we have some delicious Italian food and wine. The total bill for 2 starters, 2 garlic bread, 2 mains, 2 tiramisu, 1 liter wine and 2 coffee was just over 50 Euro. Real good!
After dinner we stroll around a bit till we take the last coach service back to FCO. It leaves at 9.50pm from Termini.


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This Terravision coach took me into town (35 minute ride, not 1 hour)



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Starter: caprese



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Main: one of my best pizza’s ever (tuna topping)



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Alitalia crew member in green dress?



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Hello from the waiter and a picture of the street we were eating



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Time for dessert? Homemade tiramisu. Yummy!



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A quick after-dinner-walk



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Tunnel in the night



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Fontains… (I prefer the Barcelona ones lol)



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… not the only ones around here


Once back at FCO, and before going to our hotel, we want to check-in for the A330 flight, but also the self service kiosk replies 1) reservation not found (after reading my frequent flyer card) and 2) go see airport staff (after input of my ticket number).
We decide to ask a male officer at the reservation desk, who is a bit 'difficult' at first but turns to be real friendly and helped us out.
The agent confirms our reservation, the A330 too, even the registration. I ask if we can get seats allocated and he acknowledges, that he would even give us a boarding pass. He was willing to give us seats in Magnifica class, Alitalia's newest longhaul product. Great! We thank him a lot and go off for a 10 minute walk to the Hilton Rome Airport hotel, where we obtain a twin room on the second floor.


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FCO terminal departure level. Quiet at night!


The Hilton hotel is good, but not anywhere like 4 stars. The room quite standard, the bathroom can have an update, the prices at the bar insane (beer €7,00 G&T €15,00). We don't make a second order... At least the beer was nice and cold.
In the lobby a free to use 'check-in only' computer/printer is available, but my try on UX doesn't work. Failure of MS Internet Explorer, and after complaining at the reception we obtain a voucher for free internet on the normal PC's, but it does not work again in IE. Therefore I install Firefox, and try again. Now it worked!
Well, afterwards we call it a night and take our well deserved 5 hours of sleep. Till we wake up at 6am, ready to go on. Day number 2!


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Hilton Rome Airport



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Hilton Rome Airport: the lobby



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Hilton Rome Airport: the room. Nothing that impresses honestly



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Room picture no. 2



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A sneak preview in the hangars though… (from the room)


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At 710am we walk off back to terminal 1 from where the domestics flights leave. I talked with Robert about the happenings in Spain with security, and I feel the same sometimes when I'm in Italy. So, still I have a 0,75l bottle of water half empty, and place it in the upper compartment of my bagpack. And guess what? Indeed the officer is as disinterested as his Spanish collegues. I successfully pass without any problem, so I save myself a few Euros and there is no need to buy myself a new bottle.
After we pass we find a similar Sky Bar Lounge as I saw in TRN, only brioches are much cheaper, and my girella is 10 cents more expensive. Strange pricing along the same branded chain of airport bars. It was good though to have this and a 'doppio espresso' for breakfast. Furthermore I spend a bit of money in the Nike Store on a nice t-shirt before heading off to our busgate B14.


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Dedicated check-in zone for the Rome-Milan flights



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Down to the (bus)gate


Boarding starts right away when we arrive, priority boarding strictly followed though not completely: Robert slips through with me  
The Cobus is not full at all and drives us along one of these Carpatair Fokker 70s operating for Alitalia to a remote spot where I immediately spot the really beautiful Airbus A330-200 in shining paint. When we get off the bus the neccesary picture taking do not give any problems here. Staff are quite relaxed here!


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The A330 already visible while on the bus. Nice MD-80’s too here!



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Markus likes this. Under the wing of this A330



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Another shiny and clean aircraft. Beautiful!


Boarding via the forward or rear stairs here.

FCO-MXP
Flight: AZ1016 /16AUG12
STD 08:30 ATD 08:44
STA 10:00 ATA 10:02
A/C: EI-EJI (Airbus A330-200)
S/N: 06A (Domestic ‘Magnifica’ class/Y)


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Onboard a very warm welcome by a more senior female F/A and greeted by some male F/As also. I am in 06A, so first to the right and through the galley. My seat, first right again: it is in the second business class 'Magnifica' cabin consisting of just rows 6 and 7 and offering 8 seata in total with a comfy 1-2-1 layout. The seat on 06A or L would be my preference since it is ideally located on the window which increases the feel of privacy too.
The seat colours are in a boring grey though, I expected something with green maybe.

Well, a huge (for me) IFE touchscreen in front, good legroom of course, some storage space and power supply. The seat goes lie-flat and offers 2 massage programs too. This is the way to fly on Alitalia. Though I am not directly in love with it. It's my feeling.


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My seat is 06A



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”Magnifica Class”



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I’ll survive this hours flight for sure



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Remote control



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Plug In here…



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Blling bling (personal?) air fans



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Comfortable for sure. It makes a flatbed too if you like…



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Large IFE touchscreen



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…till the safety demo starts


We leave a bit later, for unknown reason. And taxi out slowly to runway 25 for takeoff. The takeoff roll is not long, not to my surprise: low load of fuel and 86 passengers...
I really hope that this flight is neccesary to re-position the aircraft for operational reasons.


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On schedule another time on a longer flight…



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Taxiing with a mad dog taking the skies!



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Lining up the runway at FCO



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Off we go! Good climb rate here and a good view too!



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Where do we go?



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A seat with a view for sure!


Once airborne I do some more pictures in the cabin, and once I got back to my seat, coffee is offered. Like usual again. I ask if the crew is OK with my picture taking and he replied "yeah, go ahead!". Later a female F/A comes to make a picture of me when I am in my seat. How nice of her!


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Business ‘Magnifica’ Class



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Premium ‘Classica Plus’ Economy Class



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Economy Class


The flight continues smoothly and is just under 1 hour, and during descend the captain announces good weather condition also around Milan with a temperature of 24°C on landing.


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Do you understand why I love flying?


I finally follow the approach also on the nose camera, runway 35R for us. A Delta Airlines 767-400 holds short... I really want to fly on it but Nicholas is going to beat me on it despite my US trip.


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Onboard camera just before landing



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Short finals now…


After landing we taxi to a parking spot and move ourselves in between B-KPG, a B777-300ER of Cathay Pacific and HS-TNB, a beautiful Thai A340-600.


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Parking next to this beautiful long Airbus A340 from Thailand


Disembarking via forwards stairs, I am the first person off, try to make a picture of the nose section of the aircraft, but a very unfriendly young female agent stops me from doing so. Malpensa, shut up please. Why so unfriendly all the time?!


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After disembarking a final view on this large Airbus


This Milan groundhandling people judge that 86 people fit in 1 bus (in FCO we conveniently had 2 buses), so the tour to arrivals is less comfortable. Still, a great start with this 'special' flight. Also Robert spotted my next aircraft already at the gate, so it seems time to say goodbye to eachother. Robert goes sightseeing in Milan for the day and back a the train at night, while I go on to Spain!


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Next: Air Europa! On that particular Boeing 737-800


Up the escalator for me, I follow transfers. No additional security check, real welcome by me. Some duty free once back in the terminal, what else is new… the continuation? That comes in part no. 2


Thanks for reading about my experiences on Alitalia, which I personally enjoyed a lot. This airline is somewhat different. Always in for a surprise. Sometimes not customer minded. Sometimes very customer minded. Disinterested staffs all around, but also very friendly people here who are more then happy to have a talk and be of assistance. I think the onboard crews deliver a better experience then the ones on the ground. But this is Alitalia. I like it (although sometimes they just annoy me)  

Your feedback, comments, or whatever. I would appreciate to hear from you!

Part no. 2 is coming up soon… with more flights but then on that airline from Spain: Air Europa. Stay tuned…


Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: tobbry
Posted 2012-08-28 09:35:37 and read 14503 times.

Nice report Eric! It seems that AZ has a good product. I have only flown with the once and I enyoed it. (I met Johannes LX747SP onboard).

I'll be on two AZ flights in september and I'll meet you at MXP in January

 
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Alitalia crew member in green dress?


I think it's SAS crew working extra at AZ.. 

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: LH4116
Posted 2012-08-28 10:10:10 and read 14355 times.

Hoi Eric, great report!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Welcome to my latest tripreport, of a trip made around the sole purpose of getting a ride on the Alitalia Airbus A330-200.

So you couldn't stick out until December, since you'll fly the A330 then? Or was it perhaps the B777 you would fly.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The security check for 'Sky Priority' was unexpectedly slightly busy

So they still give SkyPriority to Skyteam Elite members? I thought it was only for Elite Plus, now with Delta demanding some changes.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I encountered with the newly opened Cafe Comunal, serving South American flavours and Cruzcampo

Place looks quite nice, wouldn't mind spending some time there. Were the prices good, or airport overpriced?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Cabin/Seating picture: misaligned windows on these Italian Embraers. Hmm…

That looks really awful, was it a fault made by maintenance crew, or as a result of the slimline seats i.e to cram in more passengers.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I am made aware of the dangerous side effects that my digital camera might have on the aircraft control (yeah, sure!)

Well aircrafts are built to withstand lightning strikes, and the cables are well protected and shielded with several kilometers of steel net.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I grab my new iPad to put on music and start writing this report.

Really, are you that busy these days that you've to start writing already mid-air!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
With the curtains closed though, but still against ANY regulation and an possible unsafe situation.

Well "regulation" only prohibits the cockpit door to be open when flying to/from/over certain countries e.g UK, Israel, USA. Otherwise it's more subject to the company policies, hence why pilots often times invite friends and such into the cockpit mid-air.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Something to catch for me also is this colourful cute Dornier 328Jet

But you've logged the 328 Jet already!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Jonas would love this. It has “Great TV” too! Good tasty coffee btw

Hehe, well those seaters look comfortable! If the espresso is reasonably priced, I wouldn't mind spending one hour or two there  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I-BIMA, the only Italian registered and their oldest Airbus A319 for me

So how comes they chose to register all their aircraft in Ireland?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
but they serve only half filled cups. Probably espresso style, who knows.

Well that's standard practice on many airlines, they do it mostly to prevent spilling and such. At least it's the case on SAS (also union crazed airline), so maybe some Union enforcement which the italians are more than fond to have.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Meanwhile a female passenger is relocating herself from the last row (30C) to 28C. Why exactly row 28, when 29, 27, 26 where also completely unused... I do not know.

Oh well, maybe she thought you were hot  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
For our Belgian and Spanish members… almost there!

Too bad they're all crap airlines...

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I go to town by Terravision coaches, return for EUR 8,00, a good price but it is very busy at busstop no3 at the busstation.

I'm thinking of opting for Terravision too when I go to Rome. Did you book the ticket on internet, or were you able to get that cheap price when purchasing on site?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
We thank him a lot and go off for a 10 minute walk to the Hilton Rome Airport hotel, where we obtain a twin room on the second floor.

So you didn't opt for two separate rooms? What happened to your need for privacy  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The seat colours are in a boring grey though, I expected something with green maybe.

I think the grey leather colors look very nice and stylish, typically italian. But true some small touches of green would've liven things up here and there.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Do you understand why I love flying?

Yes, when Business Class is the way to do, don't we all love flying! 

"Wheels Up!"
//Jonas

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: adamspotter
Posted 2012-08-28 10:22:31 and read 14300 times.

Hi Eric!

Another great report as usual. Looks like you had some nice flights with Alitalia, not that impressed with your first flight though, unprofessional crew and tight seat pitch! L
Love your pictures nice and clear  
Those Magnifica seats look pretty nice except for the color, a bit dull IMO


Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
When I took it apart he suddenly said 'take your camera out!' I obliged but told him to stop this stupid behavior because if I didn't told him to stop the bag from x-raying, it was not a problem at all, plus, there is no such rule to have cameras apart during screening.

another example how "weird" the security can be at AMS

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Cabin/Seating picture: misaligned windows on these Italian Embraers. Hmm…

How can they let that happen, very weird

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Shame indeed that I can't make pictures, since the busy apron with loads of widebodies is a great view from my seat, e.g. 10 Delta Airlines widebodies parked around the E concourse.

Thats too bad

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Furthermore which got my attraction is that the cockpit door was kept open during the complete cruise, and the crew were happily talking all together. With the curtains closed though, but still against ANY regulation and an possible unsafe situation

Very unprofessional!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Here the city of Luzern and the famous peak ‘Pilatus’

Great shot

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Alps mountain range

Beautiful pictures of the alps, oh the joy of flying!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Air Conditioning Blowing around

wow, haven't seen that myself before

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Alitalia does it retro too. The most beautiful one in Europe I think

Same opinion here

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
not the only ones around here

very busy!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
He was willing to give us seats in Magnifica class, Alitalia's newest longhaul product. Great!

That was very nice of him

Looking forward to part 2!

cheers,

Brendan

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-08-28 10:29:40 and read 14277 times.

Hi guys,
thanks for your replies!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
So you couldn't stick out until December, since you'll fly the A330 then? Or was it perhaps the B777 you would fly.

You're assuming wrong here. I have no flightbookings at all for December, especially not on AZ

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
So they still give SkyPriority to Skyteam Elite members? I thought it was only for Elite Plus, now with Delta demanding some changes.

Who is DL to say something about FlyingBlue and what benefits each status gets on FlyingBlue. Especially these benefits are the ones pointed out as 'benefits' for Silver (and higher of course)

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Place looks quite nice, wouldn't mind spending some time there. Were the prices good, or airport overpriced?

Even without trying I tell you it's overpriced to your standards. I'll go there anyway, next time I'm around at a suitable time.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
That looks really awful, was it a fault made by maintenance crew, or as a result of the slimline seats i.e to cram in more passengers.

No fault by anybody. It's AZ's layout on these Embraers. Horrible and worse then any CRJ-700/900  
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Well "regulation" only prohibits the cockpit door to be open when flying to/from/over certain countries e.g UK, Israel, USA. Otherwise it's more subject to the company policies, hence why pilots often times invite friends and such into the cockpit mid-air.

I thought this rule was/is valid on all EU-carriers so that includes AZ.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
But you've logged the 328 Jet already!

No. I haven't!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
So how comes they chose to register all their aircraft in Ireland?

Cheaper taxes and insurance costs.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Oh well, maybe she thought you were hot

Do you think so too?  
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Too bad they're all crap airlines...

Hey, I can only agree  
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
I'm thinking of opting for Terravision too when I go to Rome. Did you book the ticket on internet, or were you able to get that cheap price when purchasing on site?

Same price, on spot. But it can be busy and pre-printed it's so much easier. The queue of people moves quickly and it's busy with tourists at all companies (except Alitalia Bus, but it's EUR 7 oneway)

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
So you didn't opt for two separate rooms?

No.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Yes, when Business Class is the way to do, don't we all love flying!

I was more commenting on the view and not on the cabin I was in Jonas   I can enjoy flying as much as I did in economy class, where I usually like to be seated.

Quoting tobbry (Reply 1):
It seems that AZ has a good product. I have only flown with the once and I enyoed it. (I met Johannes LX747SP onboard).

That's nice to meet another a.netter on board. Did you know in advance that he was onboard? Onboard AZ is really ok

Quoting tobbry (Reply 1):
I'll meet you at MXP in January

  

Quoting tobbry (Reply 1):
I think it's SAS crew working extra at AZ

Lol! Could be indeed

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: luv2fly
Posted 2012-08-28 11:26:53 and read 14090 times.

Alitalia crew member in green dress?


More like a USA FA on a layover......

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-08-28 11:39:07 and read 14042 times.

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 5):
Alitalia crew member in green dress?

More like a USA FA on a layover......

LOL that's another good option indeed. Any specific airline maybe?   

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: MH017
Posted 2012-08-28 12:21:25 and read 13935 times.

Really wonderful TR, Eric; love your pictures esp. !!!

Lousy groundstaff and great F/A's ? sounds like similar to Qatar Airways  

Think that Business-Class looks quite stylish; typical Italian colour-setting, though...

Waiting eagerly for your UX flight...

Ciao,

MH017/Pietro...

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: luv2fly
Posted 2012-08-28 12:43:34 and read 13860 times.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 6):
LOL that's another good option indeed. Any specific airline maybe?

From the looks of her I am going with any of the USA's carriers, DL, AA, UA or US, though by the cankles AA or UA win my vote.

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: jwhite9185
Posted 2012-08-28 14:03:28 and read 13660 times.

Great read Eric - looking forward to part 2!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
there is no such rule to have cameras apart during screening.

Thats Mad!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
What I noticed is the misaligned windows on these Embraer of AZ, I've not had this before on my other flights on this family

Same with Flybe too - annoying!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Shame indeed that I can't make pictures,

Funny how i had no problems at all at the weekend on KLM - I was even seen by a FA on finals with my dSLR and they didn't say a word. I guess it was because we were flying over London at night and was taking more 'touristy' type pics than anything less ordinary?

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: OA260
Posted 2012-08-28 14:26:20 and read 13620 times.

Hey Eric  

Great report I have been looking forward to this one since you told me you were taking it . I loved all the pictures and the Magnifica Class photos. The Prem Y looks quite decent too . That would be nice all the way to NRT  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Time for dessert? Homemade tiramisu. Yummy!

Yummy that is soooo nice looking !

Thanks for the pleasant read and Im already looking forward to the next part .

Regards

Philip  

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: 767747
Posted 2012-08-28 19:24:24 and read 13160 times.

Sounds like a great trip, Eric!

Views from all your flights were really good. Was there any service on your FCO-MXP flight, to speak of?

Thanks for sharing!

Best,

Matthew

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: aussiepomm
Posted 2012-08-28 20:51:53 and read 13017 times.

Thanks for a great trip report... I loved your recount of the trip, and the commentary whilst over the Alps!!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
When I took it apart he suddenly said 'take your camera out!' I obliged but told him to stop this stupid behavior because if I didn't told him to stop the bag from x-raying, it was not a problem at all, plus, there is no such rule to have cameras apart during screening.

I had the very same issue with security in AMS when I was going through last July - they were simply rude, and even though I wanted to keep an 'eye' on what was happening with my camera gear, the second security was consistently asking me questions... I looked at him, replied and then looked back at the end of the belt leading into the x-ray...

Anyway, thanks for a great TR!!

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: abrelosojos
Posted 2012-08-28 22:19:04 and read 12906 times.

Eric,

Awesome report on a variety of AZ frames. Thanks for writing it up, and for the good pictures. Sometimes, I wish I lived in Europe and could do these weekend itineraries! The guy @ FCO was super cool to give you the upgrade -- though surprised that JCL did not offer any small snack?

Saludos,
A.

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-08-29 01:43:56 and read 12696 times.

Hi all,
thanks for your comments. Good to hear your opinions!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 3):
Looks like you had some nice flights with Alitalia, not that impressed with your first flight though, unprofessional crew and tight seat pitch

That seatpitch is not made for tall Dutchmen  
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 3):
Those Magnifica seats look pretty nice except for the color, a bit dull IMO

Same opinion. Lightgrey gets boring. A bit of mix with darker grey or green would be nice though.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 3):
How can they let that happen, very weird

Just a lowcost style placement of seats in the cabin it seems. A bit dissappointing compared to e.g. BA, EN and LH.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 7):
Think that Business-Class looks quite stylish; typical Italian colour-setting, though...

I think a bit colours could make it look better, or maybe something with the carpet.

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 8):
From the looks of her I am going with any of the USA's carriers, DL, AA, UA or US, though by the cankles AA or UA win my vote.

 
Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 9):
Same with Flybe too - annoying!

Also lowcost setup. It seems AZ follows this idea.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 9):
Funny how i had no problems at all at the weekend on KLM - I was even seen by a FA on finals with my dSLR and they didn't say a word

Also last weekend for me, on Cityjet, no problem with my DSLR on approach. But I usually hide it during the 'check' moments.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 10):
I have been looking forward to this one since you told me you were taking it . I loved all the pictures and the Magnifica Class photos. The Prem Y looks quite decent too . That would be nice all the way to NRT

Let's see and hope that we can get a grip on these seats.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 11):
Was there any service on your FCO-MXP flight, to speak of?

A drink service, only. That's domestic service on AZ (water, coffee, tea)

Quoting aussiepomm (Reply 12):
I loved your recount of the trip, and the commentary whilst over the Alps!!

Thanks. Lovely moments over Switzerland!

Quoting aussiepomm (Reply 12):
I had the very same issue with security in AMS when I was going through last July - they were simply rude, and even though I wanted to keep an 'eye' on what was happening with my camera gear

Also my impression, most of the times, sometimes rude staff and following their 'own rules' it seems.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 13):
Awesome report on a variety of AZ frames. Thanks for writing it up, and for the good pictures.

Thanks Alex. Not a single same aircraft type... indeed I was impressed even myself

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 13):
The guy @ FCO was super cool to give you the upgrade -- though surprised that JCL did not offer any small snack?

AZ does not sell JCL on domestic portions, but with this a/c type possible to score these seats. Most passengers got normal YCL seats though. Maybe some higher fare classes or Elites were able to get the seats in front. I don't really know.
Service wise I got a cup of coffee. That's all. No snacks or whatever since it's not real JCL here.

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: The777Man
Posted 2012-08-29 02:27:14 and read 12625 times.

Hi Eric !

Thanks for a great report with very nice pictures !

The ERJ-175 doesn't look very comfortable....very cramped and very bad with the misaligned windows.

It seems you had a great time in Italy which is my favorite country in Europe along with France. Especially the countryside is great although Rome has a lot of sights to see. People in Rome are not so friendly a lot of the time.....

Flights on AZ seem very good! Nice to catch a widebody on a domestic flight. Seats look really nice and I even like the grey color. I flew AirEurope MXP-FCO-MLE on their 777 and the MXP-FCO was a short flight for a 777.

You should have a great flight to NRT on the AZ 777!

Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: MSS658
Posted 2012-08-29 02:36:41 and read 12609 times.

Hoi Eric


Great trip report, thanks for sharing it with us.
AZ looks great as usual, Rome is also pretty nice.
Nice catch on J class on the A330. It seems like AZ is really doing good by replacing the 767's with these birds. Y+ and Y look comfy as well

Greetings
Marc

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: roberts87
Posted 2012-08-29 11:13:41 and read 12059 times.

Great report Eric! Nice to read about your AZ 330 experience.
Also some other interesting Italian flights, great that you took some 'detours' to TRN and BRI as well instead of a simple direct flight to Rome!

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-08-29 11:30:49 and read 12042 times.

Hi guys, some more replies here, really good to see. Thank you!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
The ERJ-175 doesn't look very comfortable....very cramped and very bad with the misaligned windows.

Indeed, my worst E-jet experience to date is here on AZ

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
It seems you had a great time in Italy which is my favorite country in Europe along with France.

Don't forget Greece. Although, that's also in my list of top-destinations in Europe.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
People in Rome are not so friendly a lot of the time.....

Can't comment since I met friendly ones during my short stay  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
I flew AirEurope MXP-FCO-MLE on their 777 and the MXP-FCO was a short flight for a 777.

Really interesting. I remember they had 2 of these aircraft, and I always thought they were some 'special kind of airline' from Italy.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
You should have a great flight to NRT on the AZ 777!

I'm really looking forward to this trip btw

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 16):
AZ looks great as usual,

Sure Marc, they do just a good job here.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 16):
Nice catch on J class on the A330. It seems like AZ is really doing good by replacing the 767's with these birds. Y+ and Y look comfy as well

I must say, Y looks really good to me on this A330 at least. No problem for a longer flight it seems.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 17):
Nice to read about your AZ 330 experience.

Thanks Robert. Even better to fly  
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 17):
Also some other interesting Italian flights, great that you took some 'detours' to TRN and BRI as well instead of a simple direct flight to Rome!

I'm still an a.netter... nothing goes really uncomplicated directly to it's destination here.

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: reifel
Posted 2012-08-29 11:32:16 and read 12041 times.

Great report! Lucky you to get the Magnifica class seats. How come there were using an A330, is this done on a usual basis? I also realized UX seems to have a one time A330 on MAD-FCO sometime on october...

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: The777Man
Posted 2012-08-29 14:55:18 and read 11906 times.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 18):
Don't forget Greece.

Not so fond of Greece; not a great experience when I was there in 1988. People weren't very friendly at all and that's a huge understatement.

The777Man

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2012-08-30 05:18:25 and read 11538 times.

Very nice report Eric. Great that you could fly in C for a Y price on that lovely plane! Looks like you had a nice day or two flying around sunny and warm Italia!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Cabin/Seating picture: misaligned windows on these Italian Embraers. Hmm…

I've seen quite a few E jets with wondows like that...very annoying

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Big three: Eiger (13,025ft), Jungfraujoch (11,388ft), Mönch (13,474ft) (among others).

Lovely photo!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):

The small screens are working this time (first time for me!)

I thought that they were always off on shorthual (or just not installed?)

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Alitalia does it retro too. The most beautiful one in Europe I think

I agree, very nice!

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: ROGERBCN
Posted 2012-08-30 08:47:01 and read 11383 times.

Hola Eric!

Great report of your Italian adventure... great photos, lovely scenery and so far seems great flights on AZ.

Sad to see the disinterest some of the crew showed to security on the flights, sadly this does not up to the reputation of an airline when you see this kind of behavior. When reading episodes like this I remember how I was yelled at by a captain to stand behind the line when I was waiting to get in the bathroom on a NW flight AMS-SEA as he was getting out of the cockpit. He may teach something to this crew, I guess they did not share the same safety instructor  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Cabin/Seating picture: misaligned windows on these Italian Embraers. Hmm…

Be aware that this is not exclusive of AZ, LX has this problem too on A333 9th row, so be aware. C class and only slight access to a window on the back of the seat.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Fontains… (I prefer the Barcelona ones lol)

I have to disagree here, how can you go over this piece of Baroque art? I find Trevi Fountain to be one of the most marvelous pieces of art for such an elementary thing as bringing water to a city. Barcelona Montjuïc ones are OK for color and music but nothing beats la Fontana di Trevi; did you throw the coin backwards and made a wish?

Looking forward to reading your UX experience.

Salut!

Roger

[Edited 2012-08-30 08:50:48]

[Edited 2012-08-30 08:52:02]

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: FlyingFinn76
Posted 2012-08-30 11:27:28 and read 11202 times.

Hi Eric,

Good to see this trip report with a lagom amount of high quality pictures.

Nice idea to catch that widebody on a short hop, something you've done before as well. Italy looks good weatherwise and nice for you

Alitalia is indeed a bit of a mixed bag. Sometimes you get terrible crews but usually the in air product is okay, although they could really serve something a bit more substantial (both food- and drinkwise) on the longer sectors over 1,5 hours or so. For the domestic Italian hops I find the service to be enough. But ground handling usually sucks big time.
Nice idea to go scouting a bit in Bari before returning there in style next year - did you spot the hotel I told you about?

Also good to catch a joint flight with Robert!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Welcome to my latest tripreport, of a trip made around the sole purpose of getting a ride on the Alitalia Airbus A330-200

Well I'm sure those qualifying segments didn't exactly hurt either, did they?  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
but told him to stop this stupid behavior because if I didn't told him to stop the bag from x-raying, it was not a problem at all, plus, there is no such rule to have cameras apart during screening.

Schiphol security and Eric - there's always something! I bet they have a picture of you (wearing your green top) somewhere in the security staff room which they use as a darts target  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
A/C: EI-RDD (Embraer 175)

Nice catch. As I told you I'm trying for one coming back from our roundabout trip to Bari  .

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Onboard I take my seat in row 2, business class remains empty on this flight. What I noticed is the misaligned windows on these Embraer of AZ, I've not had this before on my other flights on this family (BA, KL, LH, EN, LO).

Never fly a Finnair (or a FlyBE Nordic) E-jet then, every single window on those birds is very badly misaligned! Gives you a helluva sore neck. Seems to be pretty commonplace on the type.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Legroom on the Alitalia Embraer 175

Looks tight! You seem to be wearing appropriate shorts to go to Italy - heck flying there a year ago I got plenty of comments from my far more modest if a bit contemporary shorts!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
With the curtains closed though, but still against ANY regulation and an possible unsafe situation. Why all the fuss about my camera then? Go figure!

Well most of these security rules are utter rubbish, and often made up on the spot.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Brienzersee, the city of Interlaken in between and Thunersee overflying the Bernese Oberland

Nice shot, now I finally understand why it is called Interlaken, I've always wondered about that! Sounded like a really weird name until you realize it really is BETWEEN the lakes.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
my bag goes through including liquida, camera, iPad... No problem for these Italians.

Nice! That's the way it should be. Nothing dangerous in there anyway.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
But this transit lane makes not much sense... Maybe re-enter completely is consuming the same amount of time?

Well I bet you were the only passenger transitting there that day. Must see as much action as the transit lane in Saarbrücken  .

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
(I thought that crew had such a long day today?).

By Italian standards a whopping two flights is a long day  .

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I wonder if these flights are a success, since from the air, this region doesn't attract me, but I can be wrong too.

Hey, Puglia is great. You didn't pay attention to my report from there last year then? Hands down the friendliest and most civilized part of Italy which usually varies from the terrible (Rome, Naples) to "interesting" (Calabria) to passable (Milan, Bologna, Sicily) to "so damn touristic" (Verona, Venice).

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The small screens are working this time (first time for me!), but the safety demo is done the old fashioned way or manually.

Wow, so those screens are actually turned on sometimes, that's indeed a first! And you didn't even have to swipe your credit card (they call it "security demonstration surcharge") to activate it?  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Air Conditioning Blowing around

Those effects are always interesting and funny to see the reaction of your fellow passengers...

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I can see the airport during climb as well Bari and it's port fom where you can take long distance ferries to Greece.

Familiar sights, had the same take off on my Air One BRI-MXP flight. There are also ferries to Albania and some of the ex-Yugoslav states too.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Then it’s blue… the sea and sky are with you here

Now that's an amazing photo! The Adriatic is such a beautiful sea.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Meanwhile a female passenger is relocating herself from the last row (30C) to 28C. Why exactly row 28, when 29, 27, 26 where also completely unused... I do not know.

You know, she didn't realize you batted for the wrong team. She was hitting on you.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Alitalia does it retro too. The most beautiful one in Europe I think

Oh, I didn't know they had one too. Very, very nice - I must agree with you on this one!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Here stops my flying for day 1, since I will meet with Robert now for a dinner together. I go to town by Terravision coaches, return for EUR 8,00, a good price but it is very busy at busstop no3 at the busstation. Though the 2nd bus is mine, and Terravision staff keep good control that everybody behaves and waits patiently.

Hey, that's a very nice price. I just looked them up for my stay there before the NRT trip (was planning on sleeping rough at the airport) but even though they claim to have buses running 24h per day they have no buses between 23.00 and 5 AM. Kinda useless since my flight from FRA will arrive at 23.40, so I'll stick to the airport.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Starter: caprese

Yummy!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Main: one of my best pizza’s ever (tuna topping)

Looks good, love tuna. Although the best pizza I ever ate was in Ljubljana, Slovenia.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The agent confirms our reservation, the A330 too, even the registration. I ask if we can get seats allocated and he acknowledges, that he would even give us a boarding pass. He was willing to give us seats in Magnifica class, Alitalia's newest longhaul product. Great!

Very nice from him! Congrats! Good for you to give him " a second chance" and not just walk away based on your first impressions...

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The Hilton hotel is good, but not anywhere like 4 stars. The room quite standard, the bathroom can have an update, the prices at the bar insane (beer €7,00 G&T €15,00). We don't make a second order... At least the beer was nice and cold.

Those prices sound just like Finland! Although the G&T is not that expensive here. But that's a Hilton so what do you expect!?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The seat colours are in a boring grey though, I expected something with green maybe.

Yeah, looks a little dull and not very "Italian".

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I’ll survive this hours flight for sure

Just barely. Anything longer would be pushing it I guess  .

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Blling bling (personal?) air fans

Very suitable for bling bling class. Bling bling persons like a certain Swede would feel right at home underneath these.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Robert goes sightseeing in Milan for the day and back a the train at night, while I go on to Spain!

Oh, trying out the new high speed train I hope?

Part 2 should be interesting - UX isn't exactly a very classy carrier and I'm sure you'll agree with me...

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2012-08-30 12:25:11 and read 11172 times.

Hey Eric, great read!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
again online check-in issues with AZ.

- Seems to be a common problem with AZ, what century are they in?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Cruzcampo   I'll try one next time... It was not beer-time yet.

- It's always 12:00 somewhere!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
What I noticed is the misaligned windows on these Embraer of AZ, I've not had this before on my other flights on this family (BA, KL, LH, EN, LO). Another thing is the bad seatpitch since my knees touch the seat in front all the time

- Interesting, legroom on the BA machines is great.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
the cockpit door was kept open during the complete cruise, and the crew were happily talking all together. With the curtains closed though, but still against ANY regulation and an possible unsafe situation.

- Now this must violate some kind of aviation law these days.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
a female passenger is relocating herself from the last row (30C) to 28C. Why exactly row 28, when 29, 27, 26 where also completely unused... I do not know.

- People are odd!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
delicious Italian food and wine. The total bill for 2 starters, 2 garlic bread, 2 mains, 2 tiramisu, 1 liter wine and 2 coffee was just over 50 Euro. Real good!

- Good price, I thought Rome was expensive!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The Hilton hotel is good, but not anywhere like 4 stars. The room quite standard, the bathroom can have an update, the prices at the bar insane (beer €7,00 G&T €15,00). We don't make a second order... At least the beer was nice and cold.

- Ouch! - Reminds me of bar prices at the airport hotel in HND, a beer cost me £16!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I talked with Robert about the happenings in Spain with security, and I feel the same sometimes when I'm in Italy. So, still I have a 0,75l bottle of water half empty, and place it in the upper compartment of my bagpack. And guess what? Indeed the officer is as disinterested as his Spanish collegues. I successfully pass without any problem, so I save myself a few Euros and there is no need to buy myself a new bottle.

- Funny, when we flew back from MAH back in May the screeners saw a glass vase in the hand luggage and assumed it was a bottle of water!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
. I am in 06A, so first to the right and through the galley. My seat, first right again: it is in the second business class 'Magnifica' cabin consisting of just rows 6 and 7 and offering 8 seata in total with a comfy 1-2-1 layout. The seat on 06A or L would be my preference since it is ideally located on the window which increases the feel of privacy too.
The seat colours are in a boring grey though, I expected something with green maybe.

Well, a huge (for me) IFE touchscreen in front, good legroom of course, some storage space and power supply. The seat goes lie-flat and offers 2 massage programs too. This is the way to fly on Alitalia. Though I am not directly in love with it. It's my feeling.

- Looks nice but needs colour.

Cheers

Mark

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: deltamartin
Posted 2012-08-31 02:22:02 and read 10870 times.

Hi Eric!

Nice report, with great pictures as usual!
Glad to see you enjoyed Alitalia, and also nice to see a few pictures from Rome, after being there myself for the first time earlier this summer.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
which seems like being made in the block-style layout which I remember from Barcelona.

Ah yes I remember that from Barcelona too, must be one of few European cities with such a definite block layout.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Service on this flight is free drinks only and I get coffee and water.

Like on my AZ domestic flight.  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I wanted to print out a original boarding pass here, so I first went to the self service kiosk, where I was very surprised to see my seat, after several hours of trying online check in the day before and finally managed to score 01F, was now changed to 09D. WTF?! It is not even a window. I check the seatmap and notice a change of aircraft, from A321 to the smaller A320. Still, it does not make sense to relocate the forward rows

Indeed weird to move you in that scenario. Nice to see them pointing it out in the SSK, though.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
he recognizes my picture taking of the blowing airconditioning. I haven't seen this for a while, let alone on these newer Airbuses.

The only time I recall seeing that was actually in a JK A321 last year.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Alitalia does it retro too. The most beautiful one in Europe I think

I must say I prefer the SAS one also featured in your report. But maybe that isn't a big surprise.  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Here stops my flying for day 1, since I will meet with Robert now for a dinner together. I go to town by Terravision coaches, return for EUR 8,00, a good price but it is very busy at busstop no3 at the busstation. Though the 2nd bus is mine, and Terravision staff keep good control that everybody behaves and waits patiently.

I also had a pleasant experience with Terravision last week, in Milan.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
.
Fontains… (I prefer the Barcelona ones lol)
… not the only ones around here

When I was there this summer there were loads and loads of people at that fountain too.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
In the lobby a free to use 'check-in only' computer/printer is available,

Worked fine for me to use it to check in for my AZ flight, when I stayed at that hotel.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
A sneak preview in the hangars though… (from the room)

You must have had a room in the same wing as I, as I had the same view!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The seat colours are in a boring grey though, I expected something with green maybe.

True. The seat does overall look quite nice though. But the angle of the seatback look rather uncomfortable in the upright position.

Martin

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-09-01 00:45:30 and read 10454 times.

Hi Eric,

great report with stunning pictures, very good idea to fly AZ's A332 on such a short route. I wouldn't mind to try it on a longer flight. The new J Class looks nice in general, but I don't like the all-gray appearance.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Ciao, Windjet! I considered flying you. Luckily I didn’t! Next please…

I'm glad it was still operating after the TXL meeting. The colorscheme wasn't bad, I will definitely miss this airline.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I-BIMA, the only Italian registered and their oldest Airbus A319 for me

Nice, I flew on that one on my JFK-FCO-MUC journey some years ago.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
As expected, an Airbus A319, and an oldie she is. Boarding via the forward door and I think that this bird is in urgent need for a repainting job. The Italian sun damages the paint, like it's human skin.

That doesn't look so bad - wait until you see the CI 744 I had.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The small screens are working this time (first time for me!), but the safety demo is done the old fashioned way or manually. Dropdown screens like on the much older A319 I just flew are not installed on this aircraft either. Sometimes this company is hard to follow...so many difference. You just don't know what to expect.

Well, the bird used to fly for Air One.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Too bad they're all crap airlines...

Why is SN so bad?


PH

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: Knightsofmalta
Posted 2012-09-01 02:38:13 and read 10375 times.

Hi Eric

Thanks for the interesting report. I was unaware of the fact the AZ deployed the A330 on the Milan-Rome route.

The A330's hardware looks rather decent, but why on earth do airlines these days insist on using such a drab colour as grey in the cabin?

Thanks for posting,

Cheers,
William

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: palmjet
Posted 2012-09-01 04:34:25 and read 10324 times.

Hi Eric

Super report - I am so pleased you posted a report on your AZ 332 experience. Great photos (as always!) too.

Interested to read about your observations on the misaligned windows on the EM series of aircraft. It seems to be the case with all EM operators that I have flown with. I did not notice it to be any worse on the AZ EM190 that I flew to LIN on in May.

Contrary to what others have said, I really like the light grey interiors - I found the colours to be fresh, clean and professional. No green in sight even though I am a big fan of green too.

Lovely to see your 332 experience. I wouldn't mind a long flight in Magnifica Class. I also love the 332 in AZ colours - very smart indeed.

Thanks again - Palmjet

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: win1290
Posted 2012-09-02 10:21:40 and read 9941 times.

Hi Eric,

Thank you for writing this very nice trip report, really enjoyed reading it  

From your experience, some of the AZ crew sounds genuinely nice, and very nice indeed that you got upgraded on the 330-200. While the grey interior may not be very much to my liking, I really like the AZ's long haul products, really want to try them one day. I am quite surprised to see the very low load factors on the flights you had.

Thanks,

Win

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: CPAir
Posted 2012-09-02 15:15:58 and read 9822 times.

Very nice TR. Thanks for share!

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: sultanils
Posted 2012-09-03 00:39:37 and read 9640 times.

Hello Eric,

A most excellent read on this all-AZ jolly (in this report that is). You got a nice variety of new and older, nice and less nice aircraft. It's indeed strange to see that cabin layouts on the same airline can vary so much, but I guess it's not only the case on AZ. That A330 looks really great, inside out. Now if only they introduce the Y+ on the B777 to NRT, I'll take an upgrade for that anytime.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
it was time to hit the skies on Wednesday, August 15 2012.

We both flew the same day on the same aircraft type, but yours looked definitely more attractive inside. Mine was an all-holiday configured old AB bus.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Unfortunately the officer put my bag already towards the x-ray so I told him to grab it back because a bag with liquids was inside (more them my usual little amount). When I took it apart he suddenly said 'take your camera out!' I obliged but told him to stop this stupid behavior because if I didn't told him to stop the bag from x-raying, it was not a problem at all, plus, there is no such rule to have cameras apart during screening.

Again you have issues with AMS security. It doesn't surprise me anymore  

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Legroom on the Alitalia Embraer 175

I thought CX was the only airline providing these 'slide forward' type of seats?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Business Class row one does not look good with a missing window

That's a 'no-go!' seat definitely!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I am made aware of the dangerous side effects that my digital camera might have on the aircraft control (yeah, sure!)

Booohhh!! All this superstition. The one and only thing I can think of why you should not use a camera on TO and LA is distraction (eg like when keeping headphones on or something).

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I notice that the purser pushes the 'cabin safe' button on the ceiling of the forward galley, and immediately thrust applied and we were rolling down the runway. It gives a bit rushed feeling to me.

It gives this feeling like the cabin is indeed not thoroughly checked. It seems a regular thing on this airline.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
… because I like it

How right you are, it is a nice cabin.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Moments before landing: the cabin was ‘not secure’

It seems like you deliberately want to test the crew 

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
He was willing to give us seats in Magnifica class, Alitalia's newest longhaul product

Just like that? Nice!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Therefore I install Firefox, and try again. Now it worked!

You naughty boy! But hey, anything for a good seat!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Premium ‘Classica Plus’ Economy Class

That's my kind of Y class. I wouldn't mind spending some 12+ hrs there  

Sultanils

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: lukeyboy95
Posted 2012-09-03 08:19:35 and read 9500 times.

Hi Eric,

I think this report gets my vote for some of the most beautiful aerial photography of the Alps,. Stunning photos... really.

Actually, I know the area around BO, so it was great to recognise it.

I am going to come out and say I don't trust AZ just yet, but I think they are definately getting on the road to where they need to be. I will be especially excited to see the offerings on all these fuel dump tickets members are off on. AZ might want to stop that in their business plan too...

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 4):
Alitalia crew member in green dress?

Oh you are wicked.

The food, and pictures of Roma, looked fantastic. It's quite easy to get lost in the Trevi despite the hoards of tourists.

Many thanks!

Luke

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: Widebodyroga
Posted 2012-09-04 11:01:12 and read 9192 times.

A very pleasant read Eric. Fortunately AZ did not give you too much trouble as it is customary. Like Luke said the photos of the Alps look breathtaking. They make me wanna go back to Switzerland.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
In addition to this, my friend Robert (Parton87) from Sweden figured out that we could make a small meet and greet in Rome and do the A330 together, and of course, have a dinner in town. He also made a trip for himself and I'm sure we will read about it some day too!

How nice when something like that can be worked out. I'm jealous that you guys based in Europe can hung out like that.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Business Class row one does not look good with a missing window

That's just outright terrible. I wonder whether they ever got any complaints about this. But I guess that even if they did, this being AZ, they would probably ignore them. I would be really pissed off if I paid for a Business Class seat and got no window in my isle. But perhaps not everybody is like this.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Interesting to see peach juice on this flight.

AZ is famous for its blood orange and peach juices. They are like its trademarks.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Hilton Rome Airport: the room. Nothing that impresses honestly

In the past month I have stayed at 3 different Hiltons and all 3 were of the same quality level. Decent places but nothing terribly great about them either.

Thanks for putting this together for us.


Stojan

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: flightsimboy
Posted 2012-09-04 11:38:38 and read 9152 times.

You always have such sharp crisp photos....Enjoyed viewing them and reading the trip report too.

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-09-04 19:49:34 and read 8989 times.

Hiya guys, what good to see all the new replies! Thanks  
Quoting reifel (Reply 19):
How come there were using an A330, is this done on a usual basis? I also realized UX seems to have a one time A330 on MAD-FCO sometime on october...

According user 'JL418' only on this route on specific days in August/September 2012. The UX one is easier to get it seems since it also operates on domestic services between MAD and TFN.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 21):
I've seen quite a few E jets with wondows like that...very annoying

While some others are just perfectly aligned

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 21):
I thought that they were always off on shorthual (or just not installed?)

I was sure shocked when I saw them on  
Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 22):
Sad to see the disinterest some of the crew showed to security on the flights, sadly this does not up to the reputation of an airline when you see this kind of behavior.

But I was prepared to see this. It was AZ after all.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 22):
did you throw the coin backwards and made a wish?

No way, when I threw a coin here, it would end up in the public lol

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
Good to see this trip report with a lagom amount of high quality pictures

  thx

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
Nice idea to catch that widebody on a short hop, something you've done before as well

More then once... AB A330 MUC-DUS, BA 744 NCL-LHR among others...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
For the domestic Italian hops I find the service to be enough. But ground handling usually sucks big time.

Agree with you!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
Nice idea to go scouting a bit in Bari before returning there in style next year - did you spot the hotel I told you about?

I didn't see it, sorry!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
Well I'm sure those qualifying segments didn't exactly hurt either, did they?

Sadly these didn't qualify but how could I know?! AZ does not show booking classes...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
Schiphol security and Eric - there's always something! I bet they have a picture of you (wearing your green top) somewhere in the security staff room which they use as a darts target

Come on, sometimes I'm positive. I'm always honest in my opinion. When it's good, I'll leave a positive note too.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
Never fly a Finnair (or a FlyBE Nordic) E-jet then, every single window on those birds is very badly misaligned! Gives you a helluva sore neck.

So different sometimes on other carriers. You can be lucky or unlucky these days it seems.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
now I finally understand why it is called Interlaken, I've always wondered about that!

Hehe... I'm also a teacher from time to time...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
Hey, Puglia is great. You didn't pay attention to my report from there last year then?

I know. But can't remember everything  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
You know, she didn't realize you batted for the wrong team. She was hitting on you.

Oh well, bad luck for her then.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
I just looked them up for my stay there before the NRT trip (was planning on sleeping rough at the airport) but even though they claim to have buses running 24h per day they have no buses between 23.00 and 5 AM.

So stupid, I noticed this indeed as well... maybe 'typical Italian'?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
Although the best pizza I ever ate was in Ljubljana, Slovenia.

Interestingly the best pizza I ate was in former Yugoslavia (now: Slovenia) in the village called Novi Vinodolski.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
Bling bling persons like a certain Swede would feel right at home underneath these.

...something tells me that a certain Swede would never be happy onboard with this airline.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 23):
UX isn't exactly a very classy carrier and I'm sure you'll agree with me...

The report is up, have a look and see what my opinion is  
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 24):
It's always 12:00 somewhere!

So true! I should remember...

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 24):
Reminds me of bar prices at the airport hotel in HND, a beer cost me £16!

True, Japan and alcohol can get very expensive.

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-09-04 20:22:59 and read 8974 times.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 25):
nice to see a few pictures from Rome, after being there myself for the first time earlier this summer.

I should go again to see more in the city, making a longer visit.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 25):
The only time I recall seeing that was actually in a JK A321 last year.

Ouch, just before they were gone. Must've been a cramped experience.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 26):
great report with stunning pictures, very good idea to fly AZ's A332 on such a short route. I wouldn't mind to try it on a longer flight.

Indeed, very comfortable, even it looks so in Y/Y+. Wouldn't mind either.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 26):
That doesn't look so bad - wait until you see the CI 744 I had.

Looking forward to it.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 27):
I was unaware of the fact the AZ deployed the A330 on the Milan-Rome route.

William, we tripreporters are always in for something interesting  
Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 27):
why on earth do airlines these days insist on using such a drab colour as grey in the cabin?

I agree, while grey in different tones can be interesting and good looking though. This bland lightgrey is just boring.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 28):
I am so pleased you posted a report on your AZ 332 experience. Great photos (as always!) too.

Thanks!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 28):
Interested to read about your observations on the misaligned windows on the EM series of aircraft. It seems to be the case with all EM operators that I have flown with

I got 'correct aligned windows' on several airlines before, so it's different per airline it seems.

Quoting win1290 (Reply 29):
I really like the AZ's long haul products, really want to try them one day.

Stay tuned. Some longhaul AZ reports are coming up I think.

Quoting win1290 (Reply 29):
I am quite surprised to see the very low load factors on the flights you had.

It was probably re-positioning of the aircraft, by use of this oneway sector. Maybe the clientele suits better for a small Airbus or even an Embraer...

Quoting CPAir (Reply 30):
Very nice TR. Thanks for share!

Thank you!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 31):
You got a nice variety of new and older, nice and less nice aircraft.

Indeed, I was very pleased

Quoting sultanils (Reply 31):
Now if only they introduce the Y+ on the B777 to NRT, I'll take an upgrade for that anytime.

Me too!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 31):
I thought CX was the only airline providing these 'slide forward' type of seats?

No there are/must be others. I think also VS had these seats?

Quoting sultanils (Reply 31):
It seems like you deliberately want to test the crew

No way. Or maybe, a little  
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 32):
I think this report gets my vote for some of the most beautiful aerial photography of the Alps,. Stunning photos... really.

Thanks Luke. Really great weather for this location. I was just lucky

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 33):
Fortunately AZ did not give you too much trouble as it is customary. Like Luke said the photos of the Alps look breathtaking.

Thanks!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 33):
AZ is famous for its blood orange and peach juices.

Blood oranges. Will try next time.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 34):
You always have such sharp crisp photos....Enjoyed viewing them and reading the trip report too

Thank you. I'll do my best to get them as good as possible

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: LXM83
Posted 2012-09-05 06:30:39 and read 8812 times.

Hello airbuseric

Nice report. Always great to catch a widebody on a short-haul assigment.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
this was a real treat!

Yes, and your pictures are great.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Why exactly row 28, when 29, 27, 26 where also completely unused... I do not know.

Indeed some people are funny...

Best regards, LXM83

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: infodesk
Posted 2012-09-06 00:13:00 and read 8603 times.

Hi Eric,

Good to read another one of your reports and congrats on logging the A330, what a great trip to make. I personally like the grey seats on AZ as I think they look very classy. Lucky you getting the upgrade to Magnifica, I guess one hour was too short to really savour that nice seat!

Your photos are excellent as always, I especially like the ones of Rome and Bari & the port from the air.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
When I took it apart he suddenly said 'take your camera out!' I obliged but told him to stop this stupid behavior because if I didn't told him to stop the bag from x-raying, it was not a problem at all, plus, there is no such rule to have cameras apart during screening.

I really think the time has come to write a book on your encounters with the security staff at AMS!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I am made aware of the dangerous side effects that my digital camera might have on the aircraft control (yeah, sure!),

Oh, yes, we're a dangerous lot, aren't we?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
and Switzerland. Here the city of Luzern and the famous peak ‘Pilatus’

That is such a beautiful photo Eric. Indeed the ones of the Bernese Oberland are also very special too, but Central Switzerland is to me what the Bernese Oberland is to you. Yes, it's time you came back here to do some more exploring!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The total bill for 2 starters, 2 garlic bread, 2 mains, 2 tiramisu, 1 liter wine and 2 coffee was just over 50 Euro. Real good!

Sounds great. You have to love good Italian food.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Main: one of my best pizza’s ever (tuna topping)

Out of curiosity, did you ask for it without cheese? My favourite pizza is just tomato, garlic & basil, if I ask for it here I get odd looks but in Italy you find it on most menus.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I talked with Robert about the happenings in Spain with security, and I feel the same sometimes when I'm in Italy. So, still I have a 0,75l bottle of water half empty, and place it in the upper compartment of my bagpack. And guess what? Indeed the officer is as disinterested as his Spanish collegues. I successfully pass without any problem, so I save myself a few Euros and there is no need to buy myself a new bottle.

This kind of behavious makes me mad. What is the point of having an EU ruling if certain countries just don't stick to it? Let's face it, it's a nice money maker for the airport.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Disembarking via forwards stairs, I am the first person off, try to make a picture of the nose section of the aircraft, but a very unfriendly young female agent stops me from doing so. Malpensa, shut up please. Why so unfriendly all the time?!

Always a fantastic experience, deboarding a widebody via the stairs. You really appreciate the size of the aircraft. Just a shame you had such a nice member of staff to spoil your fun  

Happy flying
Infodesk   

Topic: RE: Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-09-15 03:03:48 and read 7817 times.

Hi Swiss members, thanks for your replies and votes from Zurich  
Quoting LXM83 (Reply 37):
Always great to catch a widebody on a short-haul assigment.

Indeed, my idea! Always in for something different.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 37):
Indeed some people are funny...

How about you, but I can spend hours on a seat observing people on the street or a square for example. So interesting  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 38):
Good to read another one of your reports and congrats on logging the A330, what a great trip to make. I personally like the grey seats on AZ as I think they look very classy. Lucky you getting the upgrade to Magnifica, I guess one hour was too short to really savour that nice seat!

Thanks Hannah, but indeed definitely too short to experience. But maybe a good teaser... 'I want more'  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 38):
I really think the time has come to write a book on your encounters with the security staff at AMS!

 
Quoting infodesk (Reply 38):
Indeed the ones of the Bernese Oberland are also very special too, but Central Switzerland is to me what the Bernese Oberland is to you. Yes, it's time you came back here to do some more exploring!

I should! Always remember that you live in -in my honest opinion- most beautiful country in Europe.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 38):
Out of curiosity, did you ask for it without cheese? My favourite pizza is just tomato, garlic & basil, if I ask for it here I get odd looks but in Italy you find it on most menus.

I didn't make any special requests, so the pizza was straight from the menu.

Regards
Eric


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