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Topic: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-09-20 14:40:24 and read 16900 times.

Hi all,

I hope you’re not surprised to see yet another tripreport online, quite quickly after my most recent stories about some European flying.

After showing you some insight about flying on these Skyteam airlines:

- Fly To Brive Dordogne Valley On AF-Cityjet RJ-85 (by airbuseric Jul 15 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Al(l) Italia: 4 Flights + "Magnifica" On The A330 (by airbuseric Aug 28 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Mixed Feelings: Air Europa 737/E195 MXP-MAD-AMS (by airbuseric Sep 4 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Get Away To London With Cityjet And "Emirates" (by airbuseric Sep 15 2012 in Trip Reports)

, it was now time to bring you a slighly ‘delayed’ tripreport on Cathay Pacific, a oneworld member.

Due to changes in my personal life I decided to leave my country for a (very) short period in May 2012, to get my mind reset and get to understand some things better of life. A Dutch touroperator was at that time promoting a very attractive offer to Indonesia, to a place I was also in October 2011, back then in a different setting though. Still it felt comfortable and ‘known’ enough to me to push the ‘book it’ button, till my mother (who was on the phone) told me that she was willing to join me. So, I doubled the rooms and persons and got confirmed for a departure just a few days later.
This trip included flights in Economy Class on CX from AMS to DPS (via Hongkong, of course), which would entitle me to use the oneworld Sapphire benefits since I’m loyal with another airline in this global alliance. Of course, my mother was able to use the same benefits as travelling partner and guest.

Because the reason of this trip was personal and not really in the ‘travelling mode’ myself, I decide not to include many pictures aside from the ones related to the flights on CX. Also the text will just be briefly describing around the flights and transfers. Please join me!


Jumbo Jet’s Galore!
CX in Y: AMS - Hongkong - DPS v.v.


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May 11, 2012: I meet my parents at the airport. They came by train, me also, but from another direction. With no hurry to check our bags and ourselves, we still decide to get rid of the 2 suitcases. I had arranged a row of 3 seats for me and my mother (middle one free) on both flights to DPS. That’s what’s left of my career at the airport in my former life. I know quite some people here and there. The flight was said to be close to fully booked, so I count myself lucky with these contacts. Normally the booking class of my ticket would not allow any advance seat reservation, as it also does not generate any mileage for the frequent flyers programms etc. These touroperators always have those pre-booked block-bookings with airlines, and I had taken advantage of the last available ones from them as last-minute. Good price, no flexibility.
The procedure was all served quickly at the Business Class counter in departure hall 3, after the boarding passes and lounge invitation (for the British Airways lounge) is given, and a quick chat with Steve (yes we all know him from Suryo’s wonderful tripreport: Cathay Pacific AMS-HKG: An Upper Deck Experience (by akhmad Apr 7 2012 in Trip Reports) ), a former ‘collegue’ and check-in staff for the airline I worked for. A fantastic guy, super friendly and made for this job.

Well, after the formalities here were done, we enjoyed a quick coffee at the panorama terrace restaurant, mostly because my father enjoys seeing the aircraft. He would stay at the observation deck till our departure. With only 1 Cathay Pacific aircraft around, it would be easy to spot our flight for departure, of course.

After some time we bid farewell for that time, and me and my mother proceed through passport control into the airside area of the terminal. In the bookshop we buy some latest issues of Dutch magazines, probably needed as reading material on the beach or at poolside. After this, it was upstairs to the British Airways lounge, where we enjoyed some drinks. My mother though doesn’t feel too comfortable in lounges, since she is not used to it and it hesitating to enjoy the free drinks, bites, lecture. I tried to make her comfortable and got her some drinks. After about 30 minutes in the lounge we decided to walk slowly to the G-concourse for our flight boarding from designated Cathay-gate G7.


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Gate entrance G7 at AMS



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Dedicated screens and set-up here for CX flights



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The Boeing 747-400 getting ready for another longhaul duty


Pre-boarding was well underway, a compulsory full bodyscanner was in use here, and one can opt out but that results in full body-search AND shoes off, which didn’t attract me either so I give it a go once again (I used these machines in test-phase as employee some years ago). Well, still the same issue, while completely ‘clean’ I was still body-checked at since the machine mentions about possible metal items on my body (but there were none). It seems to be the case so often. I’m not a fan of these new devices so far. Well, the bag was all fine and the staff in OK mood, so no big deal and all.

We take our position in the priority boarding area, which was clearly too small to accomodate the amount of premium passengers and status holders for this full house flight on the Boeing 747-400 to HKG. Waiting didn’t take long though and soon we were let on board, using the overwing boarding bridge for Economy Class (enter door ‘L4’ behind the wing).



AMS-Hongkong
Flight: CX270 /11MAY12
STD 14:10 ATD 14:25
STA 07:10+1 ATA 06:56
A/C: B-HKE (Boeing 747-400)
S/N: 52A (Economy class/Y)


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We direct to the left and friendly receiving a welcome greeting. Row 52 is ours, window for me, aisle for my mother. Middle one we share. The seats are the economy ones where so much talking was about. Some think it’s ok, others say it’s not comfortable at all. Well can already mention that I was fine in these seats for all 4 flights, quite long durations. It didn’t hurt my back, maybe the seat cushion could be a bit more soft but it’s not annoying hard.


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Legroom overview (and part of the seat in Y)


I see Emirates on my left with the Boeing 777-300ER, back then the standard equipment on the daily rotation from Dubai. Nowadays, the Airbus A380 is deployed and gains a lot of attraction in AMS.


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Emirates B777-300ER parked next door


Pushback is a little late, caused by late finish of fueling. During pushback, one of the flight attendants comes to me and confirms my order for a special meal. She already asks what I would like to drink with it (hmm... a bit early to ask?). The safety video is on each personal screen but without sound, plus a sloppy cabin check. Not the best impression about all of this to be honest.

For my comfort I find a blanket and earphones at each seat. What I’m missing here are socks or slippers. Well, maybe I’m spoiled by flying to Japan so much. It’s common overthere and a must to supply the Japanese passenger with it. Even KLM does it   Hongkong or China in general is a different piece of cake me thinks.

We taxi to runway 24, I text my father who is on the observation deck, and he confirms that he sees us taxiing along. Departure was the standard long roll as on each longhaul fully loaded 747 flight, quite an experience especially for the less travelled ones among us who think that we would never get off the ground.


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Lining up the runway for departure



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Off we go!


A righthand turn, so called ‘Spykerboor’ departure, and I spot my house on the left. Yes, I live close, and these ‘Asia bound’ flights climb out dangerously low sometimes lol. A lovely sight though. I’m going to miss this location for living at some day... and that day comes, sadly.


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Turning away on a ‘Spykerboor’ departure



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For our tourists: “Zaanse Schans”: preserved historic windmills and houses
part of ERIH: European Route of Industrial Heritage


When we reach cruising altitude nothing happens till after about 30 minutes a choice of juice or water is offered along with peanuts and refreshing towel.


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Reaching cruising altitude



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Snack and towel service



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The Daily Mail gave an interesting read today


20 minutes later, the meals are distributed. I’m among the first ones to get serviced, my specially ordered VLML (Vegetarian Lacto-Ovo), mostly as personal preference. I’m not vegetarian, but cannot eat all kind of meats. The white wine is on the plate, plus I get water. Some Asian dish, good taste, even a bit spicy which I really enjoy. The salad and fruits are fresh.

When my mother is served, I get another white wine (at this point my mother thinks I’m drinking too much lol). I even manage to get the dessert from the normal meal (icecream), lucky me.


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My ‘VLML’ mealservice


Point to mention though; if I order VLML it may include milk products, which includes icecream. There was no reason to take away icecream and replace by some fruit. I noticed this before and catering companies should take more attention to this. Not all vegetarian meals are the same and mine was actually more a VGML then a VLML


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Icecream!


After the meal I go to explore the entertainment system, and the moving map. Exactly that moving map stops working after 3 hours inflight, not specifically on my seat but really on ALL seats (at least in my zone). For the remaining of the flights no reset was done. Other programms and audio/games worked fine all the way.


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Cruising... Night comes in!



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Cabin View (from my seat)


The cabin is dark for about 6 hours and even I manage some sleep. During the flight just limited drink runs are done with juices and water. One can always go to get something in the galley though. After exact 6 hours (after dinner), my breakfast appears out of a sudden. The cabin is still dark at this time.
My breakfast contains an omelet, some fruit again, yogurt and bread which was of better use to feed the birds. I open the window blinds and see a new day approaching. Or wait... we approach the new day.


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Time to open the window blinds again for a new day!



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Breakfast service before arrival


After breakfast I want to brush my teeth, but no toothbrushes in the lavatories available. So I get myself one in the galley. I really like a refreshing mouth after such a long flight.

Descend started about 2 hours after breakfast, the sun rises and the cabin lives up. Around HKG these are some towering cumulus around, and give some rough air around them with a few bumps.


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Towering Cumulus clouds during descent



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Final Approach



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Landing...


We touch down on runway 07R after an airborne time of 10h15 minutes, and taxi to stand/gate S27 at HKG. My first time arrival at this airport and it looks great with these mountains around and the high rising buildings (becoming a new Kai Tak someday?). Disembarking via 2 exits, so the cabin flows empty in no-time and with the sleepy feeling, the strange feeling of being in Asia all of a sudden, at 7am in a HKG which is getting ready for the new day. I know this feeling very well. I’ve experieced it numerous times. I don’t know what I feel, it’s not the most comfortable, I can’t take all impressions I get from the people, sounds, location. I should see HKG again some day. Some day soon. I think I like it.


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The B747-400 after arrival. Resting before another duty calls her...



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Well, my mother didn’t feel too good at all so we slowly walk to the lounge at G16 where I got an invitation from. Not knowing that I was able to use ‘The Pier’ at that time, so we just hit that lounge for some coffee and some sweets. I checked my e-mails, and enjoyed the traffic on the apron. All together we didn’t spend much time in there, plus, the lounge was not special at all. Some walking was maybe better, and we that’s what we did in the end until we reached our gate again for the onward flight connection to DPS.


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G16-lounge interior



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G16-lounge: great views on the apron


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Gate 41, our place for the next ride on another Jumbo. The former ‘Spirit of Hongkong’ is getting ready for this flight to Indonesia. Not the most complex journey for this beast.
Boarding starts early, priority boarding enforced and we make use of it via the dedicated line.


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Should I board this one? Hmm.. I would like but maybe another time!



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The area around my gate looks nicely designed



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This seems to be my flight also with some codeshares on it



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Another B747 Jumbo will bring me over to DPS





Hongkong-DPS
Flight: CX785 /12MAY12
STD 10:20 ATD 10:23
STA 15:00 ATA 15:27
A/C: B-HOX (Boeing 747-400)
S/N: 49A (Economy class/Y)


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Boarding via the L2 door, welcome greetings and waved towards the back, first aisle, row 49. Seats A/B/C are all ours, real comfortable on another well occupied Boeing 747. Seems good business for this airline.

Same seats as the previous flight.Middle is free for our convenience. Thanks for that! Another B777-300ER on my left prior pushback, not Emirates, but Jet Airways this time. A company A330 is also around. Pushback nearly ontime. No special things to mention about, all similar as the AMS departure. We start up and slowly taxi out for runway 07R again. Busy activiy on the cargo apron with UPS, Atlas Air, TNT, CX and Hongkong Airlines around. We follow a company A330 and SQ to SIN. No 3 are us. Not so long take off roll till we fly again...


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Pushback with Jet Airways also around



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Company traffic ahead. I should fly their A330 also soon



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Lining up the runway... Traffic climbing out ahead of us



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...and here we go again!


Peanuts and sprite for me after takeoff, the usual drink after departure is offered. Meanwhile another F/A comes and confirms my special meal. I decide to go for coke zero here. I’m given the complete 33cl can.

The flight itself, in daylight, mostly smooth apart from various deviation from course to avoid high clouds (CB’s). Typical South East Asian weather. I spot Bandar Seri Begawan on my left including the airport, homebase for BI. The flight continues over Kota Kinabalu (where I was on MH in October 2003// MH81 from NRT with 9M-MRH) and crosses the island of Borneo. Rainforest all around down there.


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Cruising altitude



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Bandar Seri Begewan (Brunei)


The meal is offered during this period and contains a not so special vegetarian pasta (penne), with bland sauce, fruit, a disgusting breadroll, and -not my liking- tasteless rice -/or soy pudding.
I’m not impressed at all. CX could do so much better.


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Dissappointing meal service


The weather around DPS and over Bali seems not favourable at all. A lot of dark grey clouds all around. Rainshowers visible. Probably thunder as well, very common in this area.


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Where is the sun? Approach for DPS


We approach for runway 09, and descend further and further till I look forward and see dense clouds coming closer. I tell my mother at that time “Mom, beware, we’re not going to land!”. She is definitely not amused by my statement, but she better was prepared. We descend further and suddenly thrust is increasing and the captain aborts the approach in it’s final stage.
A lot of rumor fills the cabin but the aircraft gently climbs to a bit higher altitude again. Very calm, nothing special honestly. Soon the captain comes on the speaker and announce the reason which was low visibility caused by heavy rain and the wet runway condition would not be good for landing. He tells that we would try again in 15 minutes.


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Very final approach runway 09/DPS. Definitely no landing in this condition



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Go Around!



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Levelled and beginning a new approach


Well, we circle a bit over Southern Bali and off the coast, must be around Nusa Dua area known for it’s luxury (golf) resorts. Not a single glimpse of sunshine here. Hmm... that’s not what you want to see after such a long flight.
The moving map tells me that the approach for landing would be opposite now, for runway 27 this time. We’re following the direction of the rainstorm. Landing was smooth now, wet runway condition, but all fine. Taxiing to the gate was only a few minutes till we finally are on blocked with 27 minutes delay.


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The inflight moving map shows an interesting path



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... approach for the opposite, runway 27, is not look good either



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Well, ok on finals runway 27 visibility is good enough



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Vacating the wet runway


We thank the crew and walk to immigration which took about 20 minutes to pass, with Visa on Arrival. The baggage was put aside already in a corner with priority (tagged) bags, so no further waiting. Also custom check and exit x-raying was without trouble, so soon we would meet up with a representative of the tour operator (yes, this time I had transport included by minibus). A shame that some other passengers need a lot of time (30 more minutes) so we waited in the moisture air outside, and withstand all the taxidrivers offering their rides.

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May 19, 2012. Time to fly back. 8 days Bali holiday and relaxation are over. The minibus drives us (and some other guests) from Sanur to the airport. The host even guides us through terminal security (entrance only with valid ticket and passing x-ray). He directs us to the economy class check-in counter but I politely point out that we can use the business class desk (which was not serving other passengers at that time). So, we check the bags and ask for a 2-seater in the back of the cabins, but no such luck. Then a row of 3 again? Hmm, no such luck. The lady says both flights are full but finally manages to gives 62 A/B/C to us with the middle free. But, to AMS -a nightflight-, 2 aisle seats in rows behind eachother would do fine. I’m happy with the service given here and thank the agent a lot.


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Outside of terminal at DPS



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Outside of terminal at DPS



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Cathay Pacific check-in zone



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Flights displayed on screens


My mother wanted to smoke outside the building so we want to walk outside which is not allowed anymore. Officials guard the doors, one of these doors I open and walk out on which he replies that it’s not possible anymore to get out. Well, I said my mother wants to smoke so we go outside again. Then he’s fine with it in the end  
Also coming back indoors is relaxed without further security since we already have a boarding pass. I can conclude that the security is a bit of joke, we all understand. Anyway... in some way they have control about it here. It’s the Indonesian way. Let’s respect it  

Upstairs for departure and stamping the passport, not before spending another IDR 150.000 each for departure tax. Don’t forget to bring enough last money... it’s quite a bit compared to the pricelevel in Indonesia.
DPS offers a real wide variaty of shops in the secure area. Mostly souvenirs, but also some high end brands such as Gucci and Burberry brand stores. I buy a new polo from a Asian limited edition line of a wellknown surfbrand, and my mother is happily looking at carved wooden souvernirs.
But, I tell her, let’s not forget to check the lounge here. It’s 3rd party owned, called ‘Prada Lounge (what’s in a name). It’s located one level down, no apron views, and quite busy too. Food and drinks on offer, including some Indonesian snacks, a salad and fruit selection plus the usual drinks. Spirits have to be obtained at the special (unstaffed) bar. No need for me.I use the complimentary wifi on my iPad while my mother used my phone to call her sister to bring over some birthday wishes  

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Lounge entrance at DPS



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Lounge interior at DPS (Prada Lounge)



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Hot snacks in the lounge


The flight was announced for boarding from gate 6, next to a Thai Airways flight to BKK, operated by B777. The area was packed. We do security here, peanuts, no confidence in this check lol. We walk a bit forward not having to wait so long, and soon we board among the first ones.


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Nice views and Garuda aircraft



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... also my Cathay aircraft is in





DPS-Hongkong
Flight: CX784 /19MAY12
STD 16:10 ATD 16:29
STA 20:50 ATA 21:05
A/C: B-HOP (Boeing 747-400)
S/N: 62A (Economy class/Y)


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Boarding


A welcome at the door here, standard. Also when walking down the aisle towards the back, cabin crew at their strategic locations all say ‘a word of welcome’. Row 62 will do for the next 5 hours or so, I’m given window again because my mother prefers the free walk out. Not that I mind of course (although longhauls I take aisle when possible)

The cabin fills up quickly, tons of nationalities onboard here, many different Europeans, Asians... these flights always have such a mixload. We pushback late by almost 20 minutes, no reason given. During pushback and taxi out I watch other traffic from my window. I even manage to spot a MA-60 of Merpati which I flew in October 2011.


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EVA Air A330-200



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Merpati Nusantara Boeing 737-300



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Merpati Nusantara AVIC-Xian MA-60 on landing



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Batavia Air’s single Airbus A321 following us


Runway 09 is used here for takeoff, a lefthand turn over Sanur beach and Denpasar city followed by a climb further away over the island. Not uncommon above the West part of Bali are the high clouds, with strong rains and thunder. It gives me some great views. This flight would give me many more beautiful ‘window moments’. The characteristics Asian skies are so different compared to European skies. I love these views!


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Airborne from runway 09



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Climbing away from Bali



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Some weather around during climb



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Isn’t this beautiful... smart cirrocumulus floccus over the sea



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Or this... high CB’s on my lefthand side. Fantastic!



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Another awesome moment... sunrays from a setting sun!


The route leads us again over Borneo and Brunei, before crossing the South China Sea towards Hongkong.

Meal service is given here, and CX made a major mistake to forget about my request for the special meal. Nobody came to ask me aforehand, but when the meal service delivery is getting at my row I ask the F/A and she checks, but confirms it’s not shown on the manifest nor do they have a special meal onboard. So, I check the menu and see if a seafood or chicken option is available. Lucky me, seafood will do here and I must say, I’m not dissappointed. The dessert, caramel pudding, is not my liking though.


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Mealservice (fish)


After dinner I listen to my music, enjoying a beautiful sunset. What else, at 38,000 feet?


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Enjoying the sunset



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Sunset over South China Sea


Before landing arrival information is given with gate and also connection flights (till midnight, so not my flight to Amsterdam). Arrival gate 66, and 15 minutes late in the end. It shortens our connecting time on the ground a bit, so no problem at all.


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B-HOP after landing


At HKG we need to reclear security to get ourselves back in the departure lounge. It takes about 40 minutes. Just 1 single lane is open for this flight. Definitely not practical and after a long flight it can be quite annoying to queue this long time. There is no fast track lane of any kind, everybody get the same treatment.

Once back in the departure lounge we go to ‘The Pier’, Cathay’s Business Class Lounge. It’s conveniently located near gates 65/66, and that’s exactly the place where our flight is scheduled to depart from (gate 65). The aircraft cannot be seen yet. Hmm, coming in a bit late maybe?

The long is packed, not many vacant duo seating, finally I find one and at the window as well. I decide to have some baileys, and also Japanese beer (it has been a while for me), I grab some fruit also.
For my mother cappucino (there is a coffee bar with barista) and some cake.


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CX Business Lounge



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Lounge Entrance



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Bling Bling floors



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Lounge inside


On the screen I see a gate change to gate 67 now. It seems some adjustments have been made to let our flight leaving on time. We leave the lounge and proceed for boarding, using the priority boarding moment. It’s not in an orderly manner, how this AMS/CDG flight is boarding, and it seems that most Europeans are desperate to get onboard of this nightflight.


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Another and my last B747-400 on this trip awaits me




Hongkong-AMS
Flight: CX271 /20MAY12
STD 00:10 ATD 00:17
STA 06:25 ATA 06:46
A/C: B-HUB (Boeing 747-400)
S/N: 59H (Economy class/Y)


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Friendly greeting when I get onboard, straight forward through the galley and turn right to my seat in row 59, not too far from the back. My seatmate in the middle a nice Chinese guy in his twenties, and on the window a mid 30s Dutch man flying home from a business trip for his own company. We talk a bit and it’s a relaxed moody start of this long journey home.

Takeoff is from 07R again, after a long roll. We slowly climb to higher levels in the dark night. Since the cabin is mostly darkened throughout this flight I felt not comfortable in taking too much pictures, plus, the flight was a copy from the others. Also here, no special meal onboard for me, so it’s definitely not in their system (anymore). I can take the chicken option though, this is coming with white cooked rice and blackbean sauce, cold vegetables, Haagen Dazs icecream... all together a really tasty meal.
The flight itself is really calm. I sleep for a few hours nonstop till I wake up and end up in a kind of conversation with the Chinese guy. Really interesting experience to be honest, unexpectedly this guy made me realize some things in the end. Well, we end up watching a Chinese movie together  

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Dinner service (chicken black-bean sauce)


The flight is long, and 9 hours after the hot meal a breakfast is served. It’s western style omelette, or Asian style with chicken, and noodles. I opt for the Asian version, and they even serve a croissant which is another piece of disgusting bread. Well, bread is really hit or miss onboard.


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Asian style breakfast



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A new day over Europe, overflying Denmark (picture taken by my Chinese seatmate)


When daylight is over Europe again I noticed that we overflew CPH and started our descend for AMS not much later. The captain is on the speaker here, mentioning 13°C and rain. Typical Dutch weather I thought. Landing was on runway 06 and we slowly taxied to gate G08 for arrival.

We arrive just after the SQ flight from SIN, operated by B777-300ER. It means, quite a load of passengers were on their way to immigration, and it took quite a while to get through. I assisted the Chinese guy with obtaining his Visa and all was finished in a few minutes.
The bags were on the carrousel already when we arrive, priority tags worked here. So all went quick, no further delay by customs (no checks), so back in my home country after being away so far for just 9 days. My father was at the airport by car and picked up my mother, while I go home by a direct bus from the airport.

All together, the holiday had a purpose and I think that it helped me further. Flying CX for the first time was a pleasant experience, but... I cannot say that I rate them on the same level with some other carriers. I flew on SQ, they’re definitely the best in Y, but MH follows closely when it comes to food and crew. I love MH for the reason that they have such good crews. CX crew were more reserved. Also, less drink runs on CX compared to MH. The hard product is ok, but the big mistake is not loading a special meal on my return flight. Aside from that CX is not so easy to earn mileage on for the frequent flyer programms, like SQ. MH is much friendlier with it, and partner of Flying Blue where I’m in. Luckily my status on oneworld gave me some benefits on the flights anyway.

So will I fly CX again? Yes! No doubt about that. As long as the price is right and no good options on MH for me  

Thanks for reading, I hope you enjoyed this tripreport and don’t hesitate to post a comment or ask me a question. I would appreciate it!

Regards
Eric   

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: SeaMeFly
Posted 2012-09-20 15:46:09 and read 16742 times.

Love the sunset pictures... I'm glad I wasn't the only one noticing that the Asian skies are much more interesting than the ones over Europe or North America...

thanks for the trip report...

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: flightsimboy
Posted 2012-09-20 16:12:45 and read 16679 times.

Hey Eric,

Absolutely stunning pictures as usual, and the ones from your Denpasar to Hong Kong flight are truly breathtaking. I do wish we could have sampled some really larger pics though!!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I hope you’re not surprised to see yet another tripreport online, quite quickly after my most recent stories about some European flying.

Some of you guys on here are real frequent flyers, but since it's so easy to fly around in Europe I think only those on long haul flights would match this criteria, so you are automatically included in this now

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Due to changes in my personal life I decided to leave my country for a (very) short period in May 2012, to get my mind reset and get to understand some things better of life.
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
All together, the holiday had a purpose and I think that it helped me further.

I wish all of us had this option to suddenly take off and go somewhere far!! Glad the trip was able to help you further.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Because the reason of this trip was personal and not really in the ‘travelling mode’ myself, I decide not to include many pictures aside from the ones related to the flights on CX.

The one and only pic you posted is a gorgeous one!!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
That’s what’s left of my career at the airport in my former life. I know quite some people here and there.

It's unfortunate you had to give up your airport career in order to make new choices in your life.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Well, after the formalities here were done, we enjoyed a quick coffee at the panorama terrace restaurant, mostly because my father enjoys seeing the aircraft. He would stay at the observation deck till our departure. With only 1 Cathay Pacific aircraft around, it would be easy to spot our flight for departure, of course.
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
We taxi to runway 24, I text my father who is on the observation deck, and he confirms that he sees us taxiing along.

How nice to know your father enjoys watching the planes at airport. It must have been even more exciting for him to communicate with you while your aircraft taxied, and for him to see it too.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Pre-boarding was well underway, a compulsory full bodyscanner was in use here, and one can opt out but that results in full body-search AND shoes off, which didn’t attract me either so I give it a go once again

I would rather opt for the body check. I think the images from that scanner could be very unflattering.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The seats are the economy ones where so much talking was about. Some think it’s ok, others say it’s not comfortable at all. Well can already mention that I was fine in these seats for all 4 flights, quite long durations. It didn’t hurt my back, maybe the seat cushion could be a bit more soft but it’s not annoying hard.

Glad that you found the seats okay.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
A righthand turn, so called ‘Spykerboor’ departure, and I spot my house on the left. Yes, I live close, and these ‘Asia bound’ flights climb out dangerously low sometimes lol.

Must have been nice to work at the airport and then also live close by too. I hope those departing planes didn't remind you too much about work though lol

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Point to mention though; if I order VLML it may include milk products, which includes icecream. There was no reason to take away icecream and replace by some fruit.

Isn't the VLML meal for the lactose intolerant too? In that case it would make sense not to include ice cream or any other dairly product item.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Descend started about 2 hours after breakfast, the sun rises and the cabin lives up. Around HKG these are some towering cumulus around, and give some rough air around them with a few bumps

Those Asian skies around Hong Kong, Taipei have these cloud monsters!! Never experienced such a violent turbulent take off than that on the TPE-KUL sector of the MH flight from Los Angeles to Kuala Lumpur!!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Another B747 Jumbo will bring me over to DPS

How exciting to use this beast on this run!!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
We approach for runway 09, and descend further and further till I look forward and see dense clouds coming closer. I tell my mother at that time “Mom, beware, we’re not going to land!”. She is definitely not amused by my statement, but she better was prepared. We descend further and suddenly thrust is increasing and the captain aborts the approach in it’s final stage.
A lot of rumor fills the cabin but the aircraft gently climbs to a bit higher altitude again. Very calm, nothing special honestly. Soon the captain comes on the speaker and announce the reason which was low visibility caused by heavy rain and the wet runway condition would not be good for landing. He tells that we would try again in 15 minutes.

Those conditions look terrifying and your telling your mother that must have really not helped her at all.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
My mother wanted to smoke outside the building so we want to walk outside which is not allowed anymore. Officials guard the doors, one of these doors I open and walk out on which he replies that it’s not possible anymore to get out. Well, I said my mother wants to smoke so we go outside again. Then he’s fine with it in the end
Also coming back indoors is relaxed without further security since we already have a boarding pass. I can conclude that the security is a bit of joke, we all understand. Anyway... in some way they have control about it here. It’s the Indonesian way. Let’s respect it

Well you knew that going outside was not allowed, and now that the guard let you, it would appear you seem to think that security was compromised. Well maybe he should not have let you two out in the first place, and truly enforced the correct security measures lol

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
... also my Cathay aircraft is in

Look at those gorgeous surroundings that the aircraft is in!!!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
This flight would give me many more beautiful ‘window moments’. The characteristics Asian skies are so different compared to European skies. I love these views!
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Isn’t this beautiful... smart cirrocumulus floccus over the sea
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
.Or this... high CB’s on my lefthand side. Fantastic!
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Another awesome moment... sunrays from a setting sun!
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Enjoying the sunset

Such magnificent views indeed. Especially the one of the sunrays from the setting the sun. The smart cirrocumulus floccus (heaven knows why these clouds would need such intricate names) definitely deserves to be on the cover of some airline magazine.....Gorgeous pic!!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Well, we end up watching a Chinese movie together

Hopefully you had English or Dutch titles to follow, or he was kind enough to explain the movie to you  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
MH follows closely when it comes to food and crew. I love MH for the reason that they have such good crews


I am so glad there is someone else on here who truly loves MH!! Yes indeed nothing like the MH crews, service straight from the heart!!

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2012-09-20 22:56:29 and read 16111 times.

Hi Eric,

excellent report with countless great pictures! CX looks fine in general, but it seems it's not as good any more as it used to be. I once had a fantastic journey to Australia with great meals, fantastic crews and numerous flight deck visits (plus jump seat landing). Well, that was ten years ago...

Good to see you got four different frames - including an ex-SIA one with PW engines.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I hope you’re not surprised to see yet another tripreport online, quite quickly after my most recent stories about some European flying.

Well, I'd say I'm glad about it!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):

20 minutes later, the meals are distributed. I’m among the first ones to get serviced, my specially ordered VLML (Vegetarian Lacto-Ovo), mostly as personal preference. I’m not vegetarian, but cannot eat all kind of meats. The white wine is on the plate, plus I get water. Some Asian dish, good taste, even a bit spicy which I really enjoy. The salad and fruits are fresh.

I like the small bowls!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Cruising... Night comes in!

Great shot!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
After breakfast I want to brush my teeth, but no toothbrushes in the lavatories available.

I think only few carriers have them in lavatories.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The meal is offered during this period and contains a not so special vegetarian pasta (penne), with bland sauce, fruit, a disgusting breadroll, and -not my liking- tasteless rice -/or soy pudding.
I’m not impressed at all. CX could do so much better.

That's sounds bad. CX could do better indeed.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
We approach for runway 09, and descend further and further till I look forward and see dense clouds coming closer. I tell my mother at that time “Mom, beware, we’re not going to land!”. She is definitely not amused by my statement, but she better was prepared. We descend further and suddenly thrust is increasing and the captain aborts the approach in it’s final stage.
A lot of rumor fills the cabin but the aircraft gently climbs to a bit higher altitude again. Very calm, nothing special honestly. Soon the captain comes on the speaker and announce the reason which was low visibility caused by heavy rain and the wet runway condition would not be good for landing. He tells that we would try again in 15 minutes.

Definitely an interesting experience. But yes, it's often a torture for people who don't like aviation as much as we do.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Isn’t this beautiful... smart cirrocumulus floccus over the sea

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Or this... high CB’s on my lefthand side. Fantastic!
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Another awesome moment... sunrays from a setting sun!

What an amazing array of pictures!   

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Meal service is given here, and CX made a major mistake to forget about my request for the special meal. Nobody came to ask me aforehand, but when the meal service delivery is getting at my row I ask the F/A and she checks, but confirms it’s not shown on the manifest nor do they have a special meal onboard. So, I check the menu and see if a seafood or chicken option is available. Lucky me, seafood will do here and I must say, I’m not dissappointed. The dessert, caramel pudding, is not my liking though.

Another disappointment...

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Enjoying the sunset

Another great shot!



PH

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: sultanils
Posted 2012-09-20 23:08:11 and read 16089 times.

Hello Eric,

Excellent report my friend and the pics are truly breathtaking. This TR brings back some memories from my voyage to SGN with CX in 2007. No B747 for me back then but CX’s older workhorse, the A343.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
We direct to the left and friendly receiving a welcome greeting. Row 52 is ours, window for me, aisle for my mother. Middle one we share.

Did you ask for the middle one to stay free? Definitely appreciated for such a long flight.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
We taxi to runway 24, I text my father who is on the observation deck, and he confirms that he sees us taxiing along.

Now aren’t you breaking one of the security rules here?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
My ‘VLML’ mealservice

Nice tray!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I’m given the complete 33cl can.

That’s very generous and how it should be.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Well, bread is really hit or miss onboard.

That’s practically always on airlines, even when they are reheated.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
All together, the holiday had a purpose and I think that it helped me further

I’m happy for you and wish you all the best.

Sultanils

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: The777Man
Posted 2012-09-21 02:17:20 and read 15828 times.

Hi Eric !

Very nice report with nice pictures!

Always great to see long haul trip reports.

Too bad the meals weren't to your liking but from what I've heard that's the case with special meals on a lot of carriers.

The chicken meal on the return from HKG looks the best.

Fantastic pictures of the clouds on the way back from DPS ! Absolutely stunning pictures !

Very much looking forward to your next report!

The777Man

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-09-21 02:25:20 and read 15809 times.

Hi guys,

thanks for your words. Really appreciated!

Quoting SeaMeFly (Reply 1):
Love the sunset pictures... I'm glad I wasn't the only one noticing that the Asian skies are much more interesting than the ones over Europe or North America...

It's well known fact. Weather is different. Flightcrew know about it.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 2):
Absolutely stunning pictures as usual, and the ones from your Denpasar to Hong Kong flight are truly breathtaking. I do wish we could have sampled some really larger pics though!!

You prefer clickable pics to larger size? Hmm, personally I think they fit perfectly now in the frame of this website?

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 2):
Some of you guys on here are real frequent flyers, but since it's so easy to fly around in Europe I think only those on long haul flights would match this criteria, so you are automatically included in this now

I've a quite a backlog of tripreports and there are more flights booked already  
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 2):
It's unfortunate you had to give up your airport career in order to make new choices in your life.

I worked before for a large Asian airline, but they had to stop flying to AMS. Sadly, but already a few years ago when I made this change. Maybe I'll be back in the future...

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 2):
Must have been nice to work at the airport and then also live close by too. I hope those departing planes didn't remind you too much about work though

It's great to get them flying over. I enjoy it every day, as long as possible since in the future I might move elsewhere.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 2):
Isn't the VLML meal for the lactose intolerant too? In that case it would make sense not to include ice cream or any other dairly product item.

No. Definitely VLML is including Lactose products and eggs produced. Icecream fits perfectly in such a meal.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 2):
Well you knew that going outside was not allowed, and now that the guard let you, it would appear you seem to think that security was compromised. Well maybe he should not have let you two out in the first place, and truly enforced the correct security measures lol

Well, this is Indonesia you know  
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 2):
I am so glad there is someone else on here who truly loves MH!! Yes indeed nothing like the MH crews, service straight from the heart!!

Definitely MH is above par when compared to CX.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Good to see you got four different frames - including an ex-SIA one with PW engines.

Indeed, I thought so too. But inflight I didn't notice much/any difference.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
I think only few carriers have them in lavatories.

I'm spoiled with flying JL so often  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 4):
This TR brings back some memories from my voyage to SGN with CX in 2007. No B747 for me back then but CX’s older workhorse, the A343.

Soon the A340-300 is back on HKG-AMS... I would prefer it above the B744 with the 2-seaters window/aisle

Quoting sultanils (Reply 4):
Did you ask for the middle one to stay free? Definitely appreciated for such a long flight.

Special pre-arrangements here Nils  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 4):
Now aren’t you breaking one of the security rules here?

Security? No. Safety... yes (maybe)  
Quoting sultanils (Reply 4):
I’m happy for you and wish you all the best.

 

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: Widebodyroga
Posted 2012-09-21 05:31:16 and read 15560 times.

Hey Eric,

Nice to see another CX report here. Not a rare carrier by any means but for some reason I feel like I know very little about them, despite the numerous TRs. Too bad that you had some issues with their catering but they seem to be a decent option overall.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
May 11, 2012: I meet my parents at the airport. They came by train, me also, but from another direction. With no hurry to check our bags and ourselves, we still decide to get rid of the 2 suitcases. I had arranged a row of 3 seats for me and my mother (middle one free) on both flights to DPS. That’s what’s left of my career at the airport in my former life. I know quite some people here and there. The flight was said to be close to fully booked, so I count myself lucky with these contacts. Normally the booking class of my ticket would not allow any advance seat reservation, as it also does not generate any mileage for the frequent flyers programms etc. These touroperators always have those pre-booked block-bookings with airlines, and I had taken advantage of the last available ones from them as last-minute. Good price, no flexibility.

Sometimes I wish I had such contacts too. It certainly gives you a peace of mind for little things like that  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
When my mother is served, I get another white wine (at this point my mother thinks I’m drinking too much lol).
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
My mother wanted to smoke outside the building so we want to walk outside which is not allowed anymore.

Haha, such a typical sweet mom. She tells you off for drinking too much but she is a smoker. I hope you told her off too!  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
After the meal I go to explore the entertainment system, and the moving map. Exactly that moving map stops working after 3 hours inflight, not specifically on my seat but really on ALL seats (at least in my zone). For the remaining of the flights no reset was done.

That happened to me once on a DL flight from JFK to EDI. We were already over Iceland but the map kept showing us over Connecticut. When I told the flight attendants about it they looked at me like I was crazy and told me that they would fix it but of course they never did. The map was still showing us over Connecticut even during our descent to Scotland.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
a disgusting breadroll,

One of my pet peeves about airline food: the dry or deflated bread roll. Most of the times I don't even touch it. I usually don't like to touch any food with my hands (unless I have JUST washed them) so if a bread roll looks like it's not ganna be edible it gives me one more reason to leave it behind.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Isn’t this beautiful... smart cirrocumulus floccus over the sea
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Enjoying the sunset

One day you'll need to teach me how to take such crisp and colorful photos from inside an aircraft window! You seem to be a master at it. Superb!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Meal service is given here, and CX made a major mistake to forget about my request for the special meal.

That's just terrible. I thought most asian airlines were really good about this. This certainly doesn't fill one with confidence about getting the right meal, especially if one is allergic or intolerant to certain ingredients.


Thanks for the nice read, Eric. I hope this trip served its purpose and made you feel better.  

Stojan

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: CXB77L
Posted 2012-09-21 06:34:04 and read 15375 times.

If there's one thing I liked about this trip report, it's the dozens of pictures of the amazing scenery from the aircraft. That is precisely the reason why having a window seat is way, way better than having 100 movies on AVOD to choose from.

Excellent trip report, I enjoyed reading it  

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: jwhite9185
Posted 2012-09-21 13:10:18 and read 14951 times.

Nice report and pictures Eric. Cathay look pretty good - interesting to get a go around too!

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: eicvd
Posted 2012-09-21 13:59:34 and read 14882 times.

Hi Eric

Nice trip report, really enjoyed the read. You caught some great photo's of the amazing & beautiful Asian skies. Thanks for posting.

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2012-09-21 14:10:30 and read 14862 times.

Hoi, Eric,

good work again and also nice pictures.
That weather situation around you´re arrival into DPS looks like really special. Not that welcoming like you stated.
CX looks like ok, nothing special yet.

Sometimes it´s interesting to have seatmate, isn´t it?.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: 767747
Posted 2012-09-21 19:59:50 and read 14603 times.

Nice trip report, Eric!

Looks like you had some good flights with CX. The sunset photos are amazing - wow! Food looks okay - but I'd agree, some meals look better than others!

I'm amazed with your ability with the jet-lag; I feel like I would have had a harder time with all the long 747 flights in a pretty close succession!

Best,

Matthew

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: flightsimboy
Posted 2012-09-21 21:04:23 and read 14514 times.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
You prefer clickable pics to larger size? Hmm, personally I think they fit perfectly now in the frame of this website?

I usually am okay to view these on here with the size you normally put them at, but those sunset shots would be really great to be viewed in bigger sizes, perhaps just this one time lol...

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-09-22 02:15:29 and read 14327 times.

Hi all,

another couple of replies! Thanks for that. Good to hear that all of you liked the pics. I'm always checking the sky to find good photo moments.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Too bad the meals weren't to your liking but from what I've heard that's the case with special meals on a lot of carriers.

It's either hit or miss in my opinion. I had real good meals. Soon I'll fly CX again and did not order a special meal, just hoping that my preferences can be met onboard.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 5):
Fantastic pictures of the clouds on the way back from DPS ! Absolutely stunning pictures !

I was so delighted with these lightconditions throughout. One of my best flights ever.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
Not a rare carrier by any means but for some reason I feel like I know very little about them, despite the numerous TRs. Too bad that you had some issues with their catering but they seem to be a decent option overall.

Despite these issues, I'm not negative minded about CX or whatever.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
She tells you off for drinking too much but she is a smoker. I hope you told her off too!

So often I told her. She never listens though. Stopping would make her life much better, I think.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
That happened to me once on a DL flight from JFK to EDI. We were already over Iceland but the map kept showing us over Connecticut. When I told the flight attendants about it they looked at me like I was crazy and told me that they would fix it but of course they never did. The map was still showing us over Connecticut even during our descent to Scotland.

Really annoying indeed, still I think not too many people bother about these maps. Only the freaks like us  
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
One day you'll need to teach me how to take such crisp and colorful photos from inside an aircraft window! You seem to be a master at it. Superb!

Haha, thanks! Lesson 1 for you: always bring a tissue and first thing to do is clean the window as first thing when you're seated.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 7):
That's just terrible. I thought most asian airlines were really good about this. This certainly doesn't fill one with confidence about getting the right meal, especially if one is allergic or intolerant to certain ingredients.

For me, personally, not a big deal. But indeed, this is quite worrying. You may expect better administration at this airline, better double-checks on the manifest or systems. Such mistakes shouldn't happen. The airline I worked for took special meals always very serious.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 8):
If there's one thing I liked about this trip report, it's the dozens of pictures of the amazing scenery from the aircraft. That is precisely the reason why having a window seat is way, way better than having 100 movies on AVOD to choose from.

Thanks CXB77L! Yes, you're so right about that. Best AVOD is still what's on the other side of my window. Hmm, not sure if I'm going to like the new generations window blinds (B787)

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 9):
Cathay look pretty good - interesting to get a go around too!

A first time for me   So I count one go around now, and one rejected take-off. What else?

Quoting eicvd (Reply 10):
You caught some great photo's of the amazing & beautiful Asian skies. Thanks for posting.

Thanks for that, glad to hear you enjoyed them as much as I did.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):
That weather situation around you´re arrival into DPS looks like really special. Not that welcoming like you stated.

Luckily the next day weather cleared up and I enjoyed a lot of sun on the island. It wasn't rainy season after all, so it was just unlucky timing with the clouds on arrival

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):
Sometimes it´s interesting to have seatmate, isn´t it?.

Yeah well... interesting is indeed the right word, things are so 'unexpected' sometimes.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 12):
Looks like you had some good flights with CX. The sunset photos are amazing - wow! Food looks okay - but I'd agree, some meals look better than others!

Thanks Matthew. At least, all meals where different because some airlines serve the same courses on every sector  
Quoting 767747 (Reply 12):
I'm amazed with your ability with the jet-lag; I feel like I would have had a harder time with all the long 747 flights in a pretty close succession!

I never realize about it actually. I try to sleep a bit on the plane, usually I manage a few hours. I'm not reading too much. Sometimes I just do 'nothing' on the plane. Wasted time lol.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 13):
I usually am okay to view these on here with the size you normally put them at, but those sunset shots would be really great to be viewed in bigger sizes, perhaps just this one time lol...

Haha, I take notice   I take it with me for future reports.

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: Knightsofmalta
Posted 2012-09-22 04:09:33 and read 14211 times.

Hi Eric

Another cool report with loads of beautiful pictures. Thanks for all the detail on Cathay Pacific. I have a soft spot for CX because it was with them that I undertook my first long-haul trip many moons ago at the tender age of 18.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I had arranged a row of 3 seats for me and my mother (middle one free) on both flights to DPS. That’s what’s left of my career at the airport in my former life. I know quite some people here and there. The flight was said to be close to fully booked, so I count myself lucky with these contacts. Normally the booking class of my ticket would not allow any advance seat reservation, as it also does not generate any mileage for the frequent flyers programms etc. These touroperators always have those pre-booked block-bookings with airlines, and I had taken advantage of the last available ones from them as last-minute. Good price, no flexibility.

You are obviously blessed with good friends in the right places!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
When my mother is served, I get another white wine (at this point my mother thinks I’m drinking too much lol).

That's what mums are for I guess, bless 'em!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
We approach for runway 09, and descend further and further till I look forward and see dense clouds coming closer. I tell my mother at that time “Mom, beware, we’re not going to land!”. She is definitely not amused by my statement, but she better was prepared. We descend further and suddenly thrust is increasing and the captain aborts the approach in it’s final stage.

How very cool is that?! Never had that happen to me yet in all my years of flying. So what's it like exactly? From the picture it looks like you went into quite a steep climb.

I enjoyed that, thanks Eric!

Cheers,
William

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: reifel
Posted 2012-09-22 04:29:45 and read 14180 times.

Thans for sharing. Seems that CX is offering quite an okay product. Found their meals quite nice and HKG seems to be a great airport to transit. Sorry about the special meals. Maybe also the agent or tour operator did something wrong, and meals were only ordered on the outbound legs. Seems strange to me that the same error happened twice on both inbound legs, so maybe the request didn't came through to them at all for whetever reason.

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: OA260
Posted 2012-09-22 05:23:05 and read 14137 times.

Hey Eric  

Great report and lovely crisp pics . Nothing else expected from you .  

Like others have mentioned nice to see more on CX. I dont know much about them only ever been to their lounge but never flew them . They look like something to try sometime.

Thanks for the insight on the product . Looking forward to the next part.

Philip  

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: deltamartin
Posted 2012-09-22 07:51:13 and read 14028 times.

Hey Eric!

Nice report and glad to read about your longhaul CX Y experience! They seem to offer an okay product, but as you said, maybe not the best one in the sky.
Also nice to see some pictures from HKG, I'll be going there next month. Did you get any idea which side would be best to sit at for nice views during landing?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
The Boeing 747-400 getting ready for another longhaul duty

The CX 744's looks great.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Waiting didn’t take long though and soon we were let on board, using the overwing boarding bridge for Economy Class (enter door ‘L4’ behind the wing).

Those overwing bridges at AMS are so cool! I'd love to try one some day!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Lucky me, seafood will do here and I must say, I’m not dissappointed. The dessert, caramel pudding, is not my liking though.

Oh I love caramel pudding and the likes! It would have been my favorite part of that meal, since I'm not a fan of seafood.  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
CX Business Lounge

The Pier looks like a great lounge.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Asian style breakfast

As you said, that bread doesn't look good at all...

Martin

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: lukeyboy95
Posted 2012-09-22 08:40:21 and read 13976 times.

Hoi Eric.

Bravo on a superb report and some of the most professional looking and captivating sunset pictures ever to grace this website. Truly spectacular... you ought to blow these up (not literally) and put 'em on your walls. Amazing...

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
We descend further and suddenly thrust is increasing and the captain aborts the approach in it’s final stage.

Fantastic... yet a little nerve-wracking in such a place not famed for aviation safety. At least you were on secure CX.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
another IDR 150.000 each for departure tax. Don’t forget to bring enough last money... it’s quite a bit compared to the pricelevel in Indonesia.

I will take the opportunity in every report to criticize this tax. Though not unjustified... why don't they start making the airlines include it in their ticket??

CX looked rather good I thought. Didn't hear too much about the FA's but I presume the best. Your loss was our gain as your non-special meals looked much more special.

Great stuff Eric.

Rgds

Luke

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: AlwaysOnAPlane
Posted 2012-09-22 13:36:00 and read 13727 times.

Hi Eric.

Very good story about this "queen of the skys" trip. I'm sure it was a good thing to get your mind back on the tracks.

Seems from what I read that CX is either brilliant or fairly average (never bad though). Who knows where the difference sits? Crews, routes?? All I can say having never flown them is the food always looks great, well, aside from your special meal screw up!

Amazing views from above on the DPS-HKG sector. Those sunset scenes along with the towering clouds are worth the fare in their own right. Mind blowing.

Thanks for sharing your story here.
Cheers, Lee.

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-09-22 15:05:00 and read 13677 times.

Hi guys,

I'm glad that you all enjoy the pics so much. I'll try to keep them coming in future reports.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 15):
Thanks for all the detail on Cathay Pacific. I have a soft spot for CX because it was with them that I undertook my first long-haul trip many moons ago at the tender age of 18.

I can only imagine. You'll never forget such experiences.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 15):
How very cool is that?! Never had that happen to me yet in all my years of flying. So what's it like exactly? From the picture it looks like you went into quite a steep climb.

I noticed the height and the visibility on the side, which already told me that this was going to happen as a result, so kind of prepared. It felt quite calm, of course thrust applied on the engines, flaps suddenly set in different angles, but indeed a quite steep climb followed, but so calm and soon the aircraft levelled (I guess 2,000ft altitude for holding and new approach). Afterwards, I thought it was not really special, but honestly I felt happy that I experienced it for a first time  
Quoting reifel (Reply 16):
Sorry about the special meals. Maybe also the agent or tour operator did something wrong, and meals were only ordered on the outbound legs. Seems strange to me that the same error happened twice on both inbound legs, so maybe the request didn't came through to them at all for whetever reason.

True, although not the travel agency or agent. I dealed for this special meals directly with CX reservations in AMS. It could've happened that only the 'VLML' remark was added to the outbound 2 flights, but, that is not really smart then by the CX-staff I spoke with. In that case, it's human error by misinput in the system.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Like others have mentioned nice to see more on CX. I dont know much about them only ever been to their lounge but never flew them . They look like something to try sometime.

Since you usually end up in JCL, better wait till they finalize the cabin refit, because -but that's personally- I'm not a fan of the herringbone set-up.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 18):
Also nice to see some pictures from HKG, I'll be going there next month. Did you get any idea which side would be best to sit at for nice views during landing?

From my experiences on these flights, I would say sit on the left (A-seats). You're going on a city-trip to HK?

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 18):
Those overwing bridges at AMS are so cool! I'd love to try one some day!

You can find them at some other airport as well afaik.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 18):
Oh I love caramel pudding and the likes! It would have been my favorite part of that meal, since I'm not a fan of seafood.

If you ever come in a seat next to me, and caramel pudding is served, then it's yours  
Quoting deltamartin (Reply 18):
The CX 744's looks great.

Shame these are being retired soon also. Replaced by 77W's.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
Bravo on a superb report and some of the most professional looking and captivating sunset pictures ever to grace this website. Truly spectacular... you ought to blow these up (not literally) and put 'em on your walls. Amazing...

Well, I feel honoured! Thanks  
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
Fantastic... yet a little nerve-wracking in such a place not famed for aviation safety. At least you were on secure CX.

I would've loved to do this on a Merpati MA60 or something else PK-regd  
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 19):
Didn't hear too much about the FA's but I presume the best.

I was not impressed by the CX crews. Not at all that they left impression on me. Not bad, not good. Just very average, and can't be compared with the warm feeling you get on e.g. SQ or MH, or the friendliness on e.g. KL. Maybe CX crews come closer to Japanese flightcrews. A bit reserved.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 20):
Seems from what I read that CX is either brilliant or fairly average (never bad though). Who knows where the difference sits? Crews, routes?? All I can say having never flown them is the food always looks great, well, aside from your special meal screw up!

Well, apart from the meal which was for me not really a screw up, just a point to make here, but the crew and offering was just fairly average I think. Nothing outstanding. I'll fly them again soon and do another check  
Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 20):
Amazing views from above on the DPS-HKG sector. Those sunset scenes along with the towering clouds are worth the fare in their own right. Mind blowing.

There was no better way to fly... even it wasn't SQ here  

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: MSS658
Posted 2012-09-22 15:18:23 and read 13660 times.

Hi Eric

Great report, thanks for sharing.
Flying the 744 gives a special feeling, I can remember it on an Air France flight 2 years ago quite well.
Cathay looks great comparing to the most Euro and N Ame carriers.
Would like to try them one day. Cabin looks a bit fresher than MH IMO.
Too bad the return meal was not loaded at all.

Greetings
Marc

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: ORDnHKG
Posted 2012-09-22 23:10:32 and read 13481 times.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
For my comfort I find a blanket and earphones at each seat. What I’m missing here are socks or slippers. Well, maybe I’m spoiled by flying to Japan so much. It’s common overthere and a must to supply the Japanese passenger with it. Even KLM does it Hongkong or China in general is a different piece of cake me thinks.

Perhaps you are expecting too much about socks or slippers ?

Socks used to be provided in CX's long haul flight in Y in an amenity kit, but they had cut cost now and only premium economy will get that same amenity kit that used to be provided for all Y pax.

As for slippers, maybe KL is the only one would give slippers in Y for flights in Japan ? As far as I know, LH doesn't (slippers only for F pax), and even Japanese carriers JL and NH don't offer that amenity for Y pax, slippers are only reserved for F and C/J pax.

One other carrier would give slippers in Y is KE for their long haul flights to ICN.

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-09-23 01:03:06 and read 13414 times.

Hi guys

thank you for reading and your comment,

Quoting ORDnHKG (Reply 23):
even Japanese carriers JL and NH don't offer that amenity for Y pax, slippers are only reserved for F and C/J pax.

Since when?
I used to fly a lot on JL and YCL certainly got slippers. So I wonder when they stopped offering them.

Quoting ORDnHKG (Reply 23):
One other carrier would give slippers in Y is KE for their long haul flights to ICN.

Kudos to KE. It's a great touch.

Quoting ORDnHKG (Reply 23):
Perhaps you are expecting too much about socks or slippers ?

For me it is a difference. Floors and carpets in aircraft are very, very dirty. On longhauls you walk there on bare feet or socks you use again later on in your shoes. Providing temporary socks or slippers can be very comfortable for passengers. At least, for me they would be.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 22):
Flying the 744 gives a special feeling, I can remember it on an Air France flight 2 years ago quite well.

To Boston if I remember well? Such a shame that they 744's in the sky are reducing day by day it seems...

CX did send B-HUD to the scrapyard over the weekend... Soon the others follow?

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: OA260
Posted 2012-09-23 04:53:45 and read 13318 times.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):
Since you usually end up in JCL, better wait till they finalize the cabin refit, because -but that's personally- I'm not a fan of the herringbone set-up.

Good advice. I have not tried this set up but will be this Winter so will see how i like it ( or not )   I have a feeling I wont though . We shall see  

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: abrelosojos
Posted 2012-09-23 12:09:45 and read 13165 times.

Eric -

Thanks for the report. I hope the trip accomplished what it set out to do ...

Personally, I have found CX to be a mixed bag. I used to love them and really wish they go back to the olden days of hiring from all the various Asian countries. Those crews were simply stellar. A lot of the newer mainland Chinese crew seems to be reserved and lack polish. I also find their English skills to be lacking. But this is the new reality so we must all adopt no?

I love the CX food on the way back though.

Thanks for sharing.

Saludos,
A.

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: deltamartin
Posted 2012-09-23 12:30:32 and read 13150 times.

Hi again.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):

From my experiences on these flights, I would say sit on the left (A-seats). You're going on a city-trip to HK?

Okay good to know!
I'll go on a little Asia trip, visiting HK for a few days and also Taipei.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):
You can find them at some other airport as well afaik.

Well, common they ain't!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 21):

If you ever come in a seat next to me, and caramel pudding is served, then it's yours

Cheers!

Martin

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: adamspotter
Posted 2012-09-23 14:55:12 and read 13068 times.

Hoi Eric,

It''s great to be able to read a report from you so often again!
Another fantastic report with absolutely great and stunning pictures. Nice, clear and crisp just the way they should be!
CX looks quite good IMHO, most of the meals look quite tasty, but not good that they forgot your special meals twice!


Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Due to changes in my personal life I decided to leave my country for a (very) short period in May 2012, to get my mind reset and get to understand some things better of life

Good decision, hope it helped you out  
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Well, still the same issue, while completely ‘clean’ I was still body-checked at since the machine mentions about possible metal items on my body (but there were none). It seems to be the case so often. I’m not a fan of these new devices so far

Have that same issue everytime I use them..

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
My ‘VLML’ mealservice

Looks very tasty en well presented

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
.Isn’t this beautiful... smart cirrocumulus floccus over the sea

wow, amazing pictures of the cloud formations above Asia, good job!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Asian style breakfast

That "croissant" doesn't even look like one  

Looking forward to your next report!

cheers,

Brendan

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: roberts87
Posted 2012-09-29 07:26:05 and read 12440 times.

Great report Eric, nice to read about CX experience. I hope you enjoyed Bali, an amazing place.

Also, amazing pictures on the DPS-HKG leg!

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2012-10-04 03:45:02 and read 11857 times.

Very nice report Eric. Great that you could get so many 744 flights (and that you liked the Y seats!). i hope you had a good Bali holiday!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
For my comfort I find a blanket and earphones at each seat. What I’m missing here are socks or slippers. Well, maybe I’m spoiled by flying to Japan so much. It’s common overthere and a must to supply the Japanese passenger with it. Even KLM does it

They give slippers, even in Y?!?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
G16-lounge interior

Urgh, that's the worst HKG lounge!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Isn’t this beautiful... smart cirrocumulus floccus over the sea

Great photos from that flight...gorgeous!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Also here, no special meal onboard for me, so it’s definitely not in their system (anymore).

Oh dear, thumbs down to CX for that one. How can a request like that just be deleted from the system? Still, the meals you got looked nice (the chicken and breakfast...yum!).

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: akhmad
Posted 2012-10-04 12:00:21 and read 11630 times.

Hoi Eric,

I had to read and re-read this report of yours several times because I did not want to miss any detail about the trip you made after the rigorous change in your personal life as you have stated. I am so happy to hear that your mother was joining you.

Please pass on my regards to your mother.  


Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
quick chat with Steve (yes we all know him from Suryo’s wonderful tripreport: Cathay Pacific AMS-HKG: An Upper Deck Experience (by akhmad Apr 7 2012 in Trip Reports)

How sweet of you!   


Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
My mother though doesn’t feel too comfortable in lounges, since she is not used to it and it hesitating to enjoy the free drinks, bites, lecture. I tried to make her comfortable and got her some drinks.

You should bring your mother along flying more frequently.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
while completely ‘clean’ I was still body-checked at since the machine mentions about possible metal items on my body (but there were none).

Interesting. I did not become subject to body check on our way out. I would not mind the check though.  


Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Nowadays, the Airbus A380 is deployed and gains a lot of attraction in AMS.

Yay!   


Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
(hmm... a bit early to ask?)

Not too early for Bailey’s, I guess.   


Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I’m going to miss this location for living at some day... and that day comes, sadly.

  


Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
(at this point my mother thinks I’m drinking too much lol).

Mothers are always right!  


Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
we slowly walk to the lounge at G16 where I got an invitation from
Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
G16-lounge: great views on the apron

Ah, memories!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Soon the captain comes on the speaker and announce the reason which was low visibility caused by heavy rain and the wet runway condition would not be good for landing. He tells that we would try again in 15 minutes.

Kudos to the captain for explaining the go-around.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
but I politely point out that we can use the business class desk (which was not serving other passengers at that time)

Way to go! Sometimes, you just have to remind the security officer that check-in procedures can differ like our experience with Qatar’s check-in in DPS two years ago.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Anyway... in some way they have control about it here. It’s the Indonesian way. Let’s respect it  

Enjoy and be happy.  


Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
‘Prada Lounge (what’s in a name).

Not too many visitors as during our visit. Lucky you!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Another awesome moment... sunrays from a setting sun!

Breathtaking view!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
all together a really tasty meal.

I believe you.   



Terima kasih for sharing. Hopefully, your last CX flights would be at least as enjoyable as these ones.


Best wishes,
Suryo  

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-10-19 08:27:02 and read 10409 times.

Hi all,

sorry for my late reply since I came recently back from another Asian trip.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 26):
Personally, I have found CX to be a mixed bag. I used to love them and really wish they go back to the olden days of hiring from all the various Asian countries. Those crews were simply stellar. A lot of the newer mainland Chinese crew seems to be reserved and lack polish. I also find their English skills to be lacking. But this is the new reality so we must all adopt no?

Spot on Alex. I totally agree. English skills are sometimes not found, and that is not something one would expect on CX.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 28):
Another fantastic report with absolutely great and stunning pictures. Nice, clear and crisp just the way they should be!
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 29):
Great report Eric, nice to read about CX experience.
Also, amazing pictures on the DPS-HKG leg!

Thanks guys!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 30):
Great that you could get so many 744 flights (and that you liked the Y seats!)

So lucky I got different registrations every flight, this year already 6 different CX 744's  
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 30):
They give slippers, even in Y?!?

Yeah they do afaik. If not given, you might have to ask for it. Like asking for socks on CX (they have socks)

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 30):
Oh dear, thumbs down to CX for that one. How can a request like that just be deleted from the system? Still, the meals you got looked nice (the chicken and breakfast...yum!).

Yeah bad arrangements, but the outcome was for me not so bad, but if you are strictly vegetarian for whatever reason, you would not be happy with this...

Quoting akhmad (Reply 31):
I had to read and re-read this report of yours several times because I did not want to miss any detail about the trip you made after the rigorous change in your personal life as you have stated. I am so happy to hear that your mother was joining you.

Please pass on my regards to your mother.

Suryo, thanks for these nice words and followed up. Looking forward to next weekend.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 31):
Mothers are always right!

Not all mothers Suryo 
Quoting akhmad (Reply 31):
Kudos to the captain for explaining the go-around.

Yeah really good that he made time for some explanation during the busy situation up front.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 31):
Sometimes, you just have to remind the security officer that check-in procedures can differ like our experience with Qatar’s check-in in DPS two years ago.

I hope I'll have a smooth experience next time in DPS

Quoting akhmad (Reply 31):
Hopefully, your last CX flights would be at least as enjoyable as these ones.

The last flights were a bit better even... I won't complain much about CX actually.

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: akhmad
Posted 2012-10-20 09:45:11 and read 10002 times.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
Looking forward to next weekend.

So do I!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
Not all mothers Suryo  

Eric, you're cheeky!  


Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
I hope I'll have a smooth experience next time in DPS

I'm sure you will.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 32):
The last flights were a bit better even... I won't complain much about CX actually.

That's good to hear. My return flights with CX were better as well.  

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: SR117
Posted 2012-10-20 12:07:54 and read 9941 times.

Hey Eric

Thanks a lot for putting this report and for sharing your awesome pics, you have a very good eye for this.

Beautiful shots from the departure from AMS as well.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
We direct to the left and friendly receiving a welcome greeting. Row 52 is ours, window for me, aisle for my mother. Middle one we share. The seats are the economy ones where so much talking was about. Some think it’s ok, others say it’s not comfortable at all. Well can already mention that I was fine in these seats for all 4 flights, quite long durations. It didn’t hurt my back, maybe the seat cushion could be a bit more soft but it’s not annoying hard.

Having a middle seat empty makes all the difference, being stuck on a long flight isn't so bad when you have a bit of extra room to move around or stretch your legs in.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
When my mother is served, I get another white wine (at this point my mother thinks I’m drinking too much lol). I even manage to get the dessert from the normal meal (icecream), lucky me.

Ha ! Reminds me of why moms usually make very bad drinking buddies : )

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Breakfast service before arrival

That breakfast looks very decent.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Should I board this one? Hmm.. I would like but maybe another time!

Gorgeous looking retrojet ! Although the new scheme isn't bad at all.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Dissappointing meal service

Definitely the worst looking meal of the bunch, surprising being that it's catered from their home base, the tofu dessert looks pretty lame too.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
... also my Cathay aircraft is in

That's a very nice view.

Economy on CX looks pretty good, and I think in the end it was fortunate that you did not get the "special" meals for the flights back, the fish and chicken looked quite tasty.

Thanks again for posting.

Ricardo

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-10-21 08:09:05 and read 9665 times.

Hi Ricardo,

Quoting SR117 (Reply 34):
Thanks a lot for putting this report and for sharing your awesome pics, you have a very good eye for this.

Thank you. My pleasure!

Quoting SR117 (Reply 34):
Having a middle seat empty makes all the difference, being stuck on a long flight isn't so bad when you have a bit of extra room to move around or stretch your legs in.

Indeed, or a 2-seater is doing fine usually, which we find on the widebody Airbus aircrafts and some B777s

Quoting SR117 (Reply 34):
Definitely the worst looking meal of the bunch, surprising being that it's catered from their home base, the tofu dessert looks pretty lame too.

Indeed, it is of course a shorter flight, but serving a standard pasta is a bit 'poor'

Quoting SR117 (Reply 34):
Economy on CX looks pretty good, and I think in the end it was fortunate that you did not get the "special" meals for the flights back, the fish and chicken looked quite tasty.

I think so too. I flew them very recently again, without ordering special meals. Stay tuned for the report about that.

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: I39OO
Posted 2012-10-21 08:32:14 and read 9645 times.

Hello there Eric,

it's been a nice read, I hope these days in Bali helped you to get back on track. Sure enough, leaving such a beautiful scenery - and, let me tell you, the views on the way back should be published on some travel magazines - and coming back to be greeted by rain and 13C must be quite hard, isn't it?

I have to say I'm not that impressed by Cathay. I don't know, probably it's me setting too high expectations about them, but I'm quite surprised to see that even them can forget about a veggie meal on a flight! Catering looked quite average as well, at least on par with European standards.

Hope to read from you soon!

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-10-23 17:47:52 and read 9126 times.

Guys, thanks for your further replies on my tripreport!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 33):
So do I!

Suryo, leave some chocs for me  
Quoting I39OO (Reply 36):
Sure enough, leaving such a beautiful scenery - and, let me tell you, the views on the way back should be published on some travel magazines - and coming back to be greeted by rain and 13C must be quite hard, isn't it?

Well in another way, it makes me immediately thinking of planning another trip to a warmer climate once a step outside the airport hall in AMS. Which is not a bad idea actually  
Quoting I39OO (Reply 36):
I have to say I'm not that impressed by Cathay. I don't know, probably it's me setting too high expectations about them, but I'm quite surprised to see that even them can forget about a veggie meal on a flight!

Indeed, I didn't expect this to happen either. But all together I think CX offers an average-above average product for longhaul to Asia. You will get less service on many other airlines imho.

Quoting I39OO (Reply 36):
Hope to read from you soon!

No panic, you will lol  

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: akhmad
Posted 2012-10-24 11:29:00 and read 8833 times.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 37):
Suryo, leave some chocs for me  

They're waiting in the fridge.   

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: CaptainRed
Posted 2012-10-24 12:43:10 and read 8786 times.

Hi Eric,

wonderful report with some stunningly beautiful pictures, really enjoyed it. And sorry for replying so late.

Looks like you had some nice flights with Cathay here (with the exception of the meal services, indeed CX should have done better here). Really like the 747, it is definitely a great airplane, and must be quite an experience to get a go-around in one. Visibility looked really bad in your pictures, fortunately the second approach was successful.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
After dinner I listen to my music, enjoying a beautiful sunset. What else, at 38,000 feet?

That's my favorite picture, absolutely gorgeous.

CaptainRed

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: NZ107
Posted 2012-10-27 03:57:45 and read 8359 times.

Hi Eric,

Great TR, glad someone didn't mind the Y seats! You'll have to fly them again to try the new seats  

Wonderful pictures as usual - especially those of the setting sun on the DPS-HKG leg. My recent attempt over the South China Sea wasn't as good as yours as the clouds weren't being kind to me!

A shame about them not loading your vegetarian meal on the return leg. I wonder if there was any chance you could have asked at the lounge to check.. I suppose it doesn't really matter anymore though. I felt as though the service received on the 744 flights weren't as good as flights on the other types. Perhaps it was the particular flights I chose but I guess I'll never know. I'll actively avoid CX's 744 in Y when there's a 77W with new seats flying a similar route.

I guess I'd better try MH out sometime while I still have OW status.. Choosing a route will probably be the hardest part!


Cheers,
Nicholas

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: win1290
Posted 2012-10-27 13:06:38 and read 8108 times.

Hi Eric,

Very nice trip report, thank you for sharing. I really like your photos, they are amazing!

Very nice also to see the nice and heavy load on the flights, yet you and your mother got three seats. I travelled to Bali on Thai Airways last year around April/May and the flight load was pretty heavy on a 747 too. The Prada lounge at DPS looks nicer than when I was there last year, but the food/snacks seems pretty much the same. As for your flight, I think the food looks plentiful, in fact they look quite delicious to me hehe.

Thanks,

Win

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-11-16 13:07:33 and read 7510 times.

Hi all,

thanks for your replies! Sorry for being late but I was also on a trip again recently  
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 39):
Really like the 747, it is definitely a great airplane, and must be quite an experience to get a go-around in one. Visibility looked really bad in your pictures, fortunately the second approach was successful.

Such a great feeling actually, and, in a 747 that was of an extra bonus for me  
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 39):
That's my favorite picture, absolutely gorgeous.

Can look to these sunsets for hours and hours...

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 40):
glad someone didn't mind the Y seats! You'll have to fly them again to try the new seats

They were not so bad, and the fare was right too. I'll try them again, probably.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 40):
I felt as though the service received on the 744 flights weren't as good as flights on the other types. Perhaps it was the particular flights I chose but I guess I'll never know. I'll actively avoid CX's 744 in Y when there's a 77W with new seats flying a similar route.

After recently flown the B77W and A333 in YCL, I can say, yes I can agree with you and share that feeling. I would opt for the 77W any time.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 40):
Choosing a route will probably be the hardest part!

Well, they do fly to AMS  
Quoting win1290 (Reply 41):
I really like your photos, they are amazing!

Thank you Win!

Quoting win1290 (Reply 41):
Very nice also to see the nice and heavy load on the flights, yet you and your mother got three seats.

Status can make a change, I think.

Quoting win1290 (Reply 41):
I travelled to Bali on Thai Airways last year around April/May and the flight load was pretty heavy on a 747 too.

I would love to fly TG there, I guess they also have quite some transits via BKK towards SE-Asia.

Regards
Eric

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: infodesk
Posted 2012-11-18 02:24:04 and read 7509 times.

Hi Eric,

Your reports are always a pleasure to read and this one is no exception. I didn’t realize you went to Bali with your Mum but what a super idea. It was nice that you had some company at such a difficult time.

As always you took some really superb photos, the cloud formations on the DPS-HKG leg are simply breathtaking. I also enjoyed your pictures of HKG. As you say, SQ is a notch higher than CX, but at least you got some 747 flights out of the deal.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
That’s what’s left of my career at the airport in my former life. I know quite some people here and there. The flight was said to be close to fully booked, so I count myself lucky with these contacts.

Good to keep those contacts and even better that they helped you so much.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Well, after the formalities here were done, we enjoyed a quick coffee at the panorama terrace restaurant, mostly because my father enjoys seeing the aircraft

Ahh, that’s so sweet. Reminds me of my Dad who always did the same.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I’m among the first ones to get serviced, my specially ordered VLML (Vegetarian Lacto-Ovo), mostly as personal preference. I’m not vegetarian, but cannot eat all kind of meats. The white wine is on the plate, plus I get water.

That looks a very nice meal, even I would eat that without picking!

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Point to mention though; if I order VLML it may include milk products, which includes icecream. There was no reason to take away icecream and replace by some fruit. I noticed this before and catering companies should take more attention to this. Not all vegetarian meals are the same and mine was actually more a VGML then a VLML

Eric, your experiences mirror mine exactly. I always miss out on the nice desserts and get fruit instead, although as you say there is no reason for this. There isn’t even any logic to it: why did you get given a yoghurt for breakfast but no ice cream for dinner?

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
After exact 6 hours (after dinner), my breakfast appears out of a sudden. The cabin is still dark at this time.

Very strange, to serve breakfast in a dark cabin.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
“Mom, beware, we’re not going to land!”. She is definitely not amused by my statement, but she better was prepared. We descend further and suddenly thrust is increasing and the captain aborts the approach in it’s final stage.

I’m sure your warning was appreciated, such an experience must be quite unsettling if you’re not expecting it.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
Meal service is given here, and CX made a major mistake to forget about my request for the special meal.

This has happened to me 3 times now, always on return legs and always when booking through a tour operator. There are never any problems when I make the request myself.

Quoting airbuseric (Thread starter):
I sleep for a few hours nonstop till I wake up and end up in a kind of conversation with the Chinese guy. Really interesting experience to be honest, unexpectedly this guy made me realize some things in the end. Well, we end up watching a Chinese movie together

So glad you made a friend in your seatmate. These things often happen for a reason you know  

Happy flying
Infodesk   

Topic: RE: Jumbo Jet’s Galore! CX In Y: AMS-HKG-DPS V.v.
Username: airbuseric
Posted 2012-11-19 08:24:01 and read 7508 times.

Dear Hannah, thank you for your reply  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 43):
Your reports are always a pleasure to read and this one is no exception.

I feel honoured!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 43):
I also enjoyed your pictures of HKG. As you say, SQ is a notch higher than CX, but at least you got some 747 flights out of the deal.

With recently another trip done, I scored 6 different B747 frames this summer   Not a bad score! And... CX is soon retiring the last ones ...

Quoting infodesk (Reply 43):
I always miss out on the nice desserts and get fruit instead, although as you say there is no reason for this. There isn’t even any logic to it: why did you get given a yoghurt for breakfast but no ice cream for dinner?

Do catering companies think too easy about these things?

Quoting infodesk (Reply 43):
This has happened to me 3 times now, always on return legs and always when booking through a tour operator. There are never any problems when I make the request myself.

I booked via the tour operator, but once I got the PNR, I got in direct contact with the airline for these meals. Somewhere they must've mixed up things, I guess.

Regards
Eric


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