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Topic: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: rogerbcn Posted 2013-01-05 13:56:37 and read 3962 times.31.12.2012
UX6037
BCN – PMI
Embraer 195LR
EC-LCQ // On service with UX since March 2010.
Gate: C77
Seat: 30F
Take-off runaway: 25L
Landing runaway: 24L
SDT: 11.50 // 11.45
SAT: 12.35 // 12.20
Wheels up: 11.54 }
} Flying time: 23 minutes
Touch down: 12.17 }
Bon dia!
My last and first trip of the year has been a very short one, 20 minutes flight time to PMI to celebrate with friends the arrival of the New Year.
When I started considering the options to PMI there were very few options, basically four: VY, FR, UX and AB. AB has only one flight that did not suit my timing, FR was out of question, VY offers the boring A320 and UX has the more attractive offer, both price and machine wise: the Embraer which is a lovely plane, so there we go. As I had to carry some luggage for a friend who recently moved to Palma UX was a gainer here too as it includes a suitcase in their basic price, which VY does not, let alone FR.
The flight was booked online without much hassle and OLCI done right after the 48 hours line, which gave me sequence #1, some of the seats were already taken but 30F, last row window seat, was available so I jumped on it.
You need to know where to go and who your neighbors are

Check-in area for UX

As the last day of the year started I packed my things, stuffed all my friends belongings into the suitcase and took the bus to the airport. It was quite busy although the airport was rather empty, no lines for security, very short waiting time at check in where I was promptly assisted by a young fellow who after checking my luggage wished me a Happy New Year, same to you young man. I asked him about the load and he confirmed my suspicions, about 60%load and everyone seated at the front.
A new security area

The more info the better

Waiting for the flight back to DOH

Crossing security was a matter of seconds and I went for a sightseeing tour of the tarmac. An A330 from Qatar Airways caught my attention as it was seating at the cargo apron, I figured it is the regular service from/to DOH which lands at 7.20 as QR65 and leaves then at 15.25 as QR68. Some days a week two daily services are operated by QR to / from BCN , so it seems they are doing quite well. BTW, stay tuned for Feb. 24th and March 1st as EK is sending one of their A380s to BCN due to the Mobile World Congress, nice to see it as it is a first for Spain on a regular service, about three years ago LH sent one to BCN and MAD but just as promotion flights. I was lucky enough to be at the airport that particular day: A Flying Afternoon: BCN-MXP-ZRH-BCN (LH+LX) +A380 (by rogerbcn Oct 9 2010 in Trip Reports)
Let's go back to the trip itself, not bad for a short trip to PMI, isn't it?
Apron view with UX, KL and VY

AZ arriving from FCO

The American cousin, DL to JFK

The Russian cousin, SU to SVO

My gate announced, time to move there

Went to my gate about boarding time to find quite everyone there about to board the plane which was called right on time with the typical announcement for special assistance passengers and elite Skyteam members first, then rows 30 to 15, hey that's me so there I go. A greeting from the purser at the door and start my walk to the end of the plane which was empty except for a father who was assisting her daughter getting seated at 29C.
Certainly, this is the gate

And this is the bird

Meanwhile, KL to AMS

One of the many VY flights

Another one leaving, DL

And even a smaller neighbor, NI to OPO

And its older brother to LIS

And on the other side, a A3 to ATH

Huge winglet covering my view of the TK to IST

The seat was comfortable and the legroom a lot better than expected, enough to move my legs around for this short hop.
Last row, all to myself

Two middle aged FAs were at the back making sure everyone got to his/her seat comfortably and the luggage stored on the overhead bins.
Half full plane

Obligatory legroom shot

Once everyone is on board a welcome by the purser is heard on the cabin announcing a flight time of 35 minutes, first in Spanish and then in English. The safety procedures are recorded in both languages while the FAs do the manual demonstration.
Seat pocket contents

Bigger ones get pushed first

We are pushed back five minutes earlier and the track to the take off starts, no welcome or any route, level information is heard from the flight deck, just the take off in 2 minutes.
We take off and start climbing to the usual height for these flights, 19FL, which lasts for about 5 minutes, then starts the descend at 12.05 with some weather information for PMI, clear skies,14C and some publicity of their credit cards.
Mallorca on sight

Serra de Tramuntana

During the flight the BOB service is only conducted to those passengers requesting it, I do not see any trolleys moving around, only trays with cans.
Puig Major, at 1445m, Mallorca's summit

The flight has been very smooth until now when the plane shakes a little bit as we approach the airport.
Turning onto PMI airport

We land at a deserted PMI, none of the gates on this side is occupied, in fact the whole A pier is closed during winter time.
Deserted airport

Not really, a sister from MAD is here

As I get ready to disembark I exchange some words with one of the FAs, Ms. A, she tells me they have four return flights everyday, this plane is now going to ZGZ, back to PMI and then back to BCN. I ask her if such short flights are boring, she confirms that these as well as longer ones are not very pleasant. I am surprised to hear such an answer, I expected some more enthusiasm for the job 
I take it easy as I have to wait for luggage which arrives in five minutes to the carrousel, it takes quite a while to reach the luggage area from the plane.
Luggage waiting

Last sunset of 2012

As I exit the airport I realize this has been my last flight of the year 2012.
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02.01.2013
UX6072
PMI – BCN
Embraer 195LR
EC-KYO // On service with UX since April 2009.
Gate: D88
Seat: 30F
Take-off runaway: 06R
Landing runaway: 25R
SDT: 16.45 // 16.40
SAT: 17.35 // 17.20
Morning spotting, a Swiftair small one

An AB new one

And an AB oldie

and another one from right underneath

Follow the light

and so he did, an I2 from MAD

After two days in PMI enjoying the New Year and being able to get some pictures of the landing planes coming in from the sea I am driven to the airport which is empty at this time of the day, basically all passengers seem to go to BCN: UX, FR and VY have flights to BCN around that time.
BCN is a popular destination this time of the day: UX, FR and VY

The gate area is now full and so is the next gate where a long line is formed by all the FR passengers.
My gate, four flights in a small Embraer

My bird, a flying princess

Our flight is called on time with the usual priority boarding and row order, I go disciplined into the plane to find a long line of people trying to squeeze into their seats.
Mine is bigger than yours

I got to my seat which was one of the few which was empty, luckily 30D was still empty and so remained until one of the last passengers to board took it ending my dream of having a free seat next to mine.
The cheerful flight attendant, Ms. A, is back on this flight; I greet her and she recognizes me from Monday flight: same seat, camera on hand and note block ready to write down my experiences on board, I assume I am not the typical Mallorca passenger.
The plane is packed to the grills; the purser welcomes us on board and throws some publicity on the UX credit cards... they did the same announcement on the previous flight but not during welcome announcement, but on the descent information.
We are pushed back 5 minutes early and once we get to the beginning of the nearby runaway full power is applied to the engines as we turn and we enter the runaway at some speed which increases as we roll on until we start flying.
Mallorca countryside

Over the clouds

Inca

We climb straight forward until we reach the village Inca and then turn NW over the mountains, Serra de Tramuntana, and onto the sea to BCN. We are now at 10FL as the seat-belt sign is turned off.
Despite the turbulence, the winglet stays there

Turning to lose altitude

At mid flight, that is 10 minutes after take off, we hit some turbulence which makes the captain turn on the seat-belt sign, it is quite violent and the plane moves up and down and from side to side until we start our descend into BCN. I assume we reached 18FL as, again, there is no flight info form the cockpit.
BCN at dusk

Nice reflections from the W Hotel

Landed at the right place

Sunset

Intersting advert from VY

Still there? Ah no!, one of the three TK flights to IST

We land smoothly onto BCN and the purser reminds us that it is again an early arrival as we taxi to the gate.
Many more flights to come

Verdict
I enjoyed the flights with UX and I will be flying them again to PMI, they have better prices than VY. Besides, I enjoy the Embraers better than the A320s.
Just hope to find FAs that enjoy their jobs although their performance was adequate for such a short hop and their very basic tariffs even qualify for miles and level threshold.
Have a great flying year and please leave a comment if you wish.
Roger |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: roberts87 Posted 2013-01-06 02:12:22 and read 3406 times.Hello Roger,
Nice report from your flights to PMI - a nice way to end the year and to start the new one: by flying.
BCN-PMI seems like a nice short hop, for some reason I have been interested in flying that route too. Perhaps something for this year  |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: PlaneHunter Posted 2013-01-06 02:33:38 and read 3385 times.Hola Roger,
nice report about your UX E-Jet experience. I flew on EC-KXD some years ago, was a comfortable ride. I'd also prefer UX over VY. Well, I would prefer most airlines over VY... 
PH |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: gabrielchew Posted 2013-01-06 02:51:08 and read 3366 times.Nice report Roger on a no nonsense trip to PMI. Of the choices you had, I thijk I'd have gone with UX as well. I wonder how full the competition was on the way over. Any photos of a Mallorcan New Year?
Quoting rogerbcn (Thread starter): As I get ready to disembark I exchange some words with one of the FAs, Ms. A, she tells me they have four return flights everyday, this plane is now going to ZGZ, back to PMI and then back to BCN. I ask her if such short flights are boring, she confirms that these as well as longer ones are not very pleasant. I am surprised to hear such an answer, I expected some more enthusiasm for the job |
Well, one think I do not expect of a Spanish FA is enthusiasm! Nice that she was cheerful on the way home. |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: MIAspotter Posted 2013-01-06 02:59:48 and read 3352 times.Bon dia and Bon any Roger!
Nice short flights on the cute Embraer, I will look into booking a weekender trip to PMI on UX to hitch a ride on the ERJ, My new year resolution is to try and fly on some planes I have yet to try, I have already booked an Austrian F100 flights MXP-VIE-MXP for Feb, next probably UX and also Helitt to try out the ATR.
Quoting rogerbcn (Thread starter): stay tuned for Feb. 24th and March 1st as EK is sending one of their A380s to BCN due to the Mobile World Congress |
WOW! I´ll try and be at the airport to spot this gorgeous beast!
As I get ready to disembark I exchange some words with one of the FAs, Ms. A, she tells me they have four return flights everyday, this plane is now going to ZGZ, back to PMI and then back to BCN. I ask her if such short flights are boring, she confirms that these as well as longer ones are not very pleasant. I am surprised to hear such an answer, I expected some more enthusiasm for the job
Sadly, a more frequent occurence these days.
MIAspotter. |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: reifel Posted 2013-01-06 03:10:57 and read 3340 times.Hola Roger!
Nice short hops. I love Mallorca, especially off season you can explore the island on your own. Transmuntara is stunning...
Well I have my little problems with UX as you might now, but indeed, their Embraers are nice and have good legroom (can it be that all E-Jet operators have the same legroom and seating arrangement? not sure about that....) and who needs friendly staff on a 30 minutes hop 
Is their online check in boarding pass still in spanish only? This is so uninternational... |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: FLIEGER67 Posted 2013-01-06 03:55:32 and read 3283 times.Hola, R.,
now that´s a really good idea to spend the last and first days of the year in Palma.
Flights on UX looks like ok. Also nice pictures, sure well worth to read and follow.
Also the best for 2013
and Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67) |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: rogerbcn Posted 2013-01-06 05:21:51 and read 3194 times.Hola nois!
Good to see so many replies, Thanks! 
@Roberts87
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 1): a nice way to end the year and to start the new one: by flying. |
I guess the only possibility for a true a.netter.
@PlaneHunter
After having tried both, I do prefer UX as well, although their B737s can be quite cramped as well.
@Gabriel
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 3): I wonder how full the competition was on the way over. Any photos of a Mallorcan New Year? |
Judging from the people at the airport I'd say it was a low yield day. In PMI, most of the departing planes were AB, I guess spending New Year's in their home bases in Germany. There are pictures from Mallorcan New Year's but they are not to published here, no interest for aviation enthusiasts 
@MIAspotter
Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 4): My new year resolution is to try and fly on some planes I have yet to try |
That's a resolution for a true a.netter; let us know which ones you accomplish.
@Reifel
Quoting reifel (Reply 5): can it be that all E-Jet operators have the same legroom and seating arrangement? |
That could be an explanation for the legroom offered, good they have not been able to change it.
Quoting reifel (Reply 5): Is their online check in boarding pass still in Spanish only? |
Mine was written in Spanish despite using Catalan in the booking. So I assume Spanish is the only language they know to write boarding documents.
@Markus
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 6): Also nice pictures, sure well worth to read and follow. |
Thanks for your comments Markus. Glad you enjoyed it. PMI was empty compared to the time we met there.
Roger |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: Widebodyroga Posted 2013-01-06 06:11:00 and read 3117 times.Hey Roger,
A very interesting report. I love such short island hops.
What a great way to cross the Iberian peninsula from one end to the other. I love how those little Embraers look in NI colors.
Given that this is an intra-Catalonian flight were there any announcements in Catalan? In general are any announcements ever done in regional languages? How about flights to/from the Basque country? Just curious.
Nice to see Serge Ibaka on the cover!
Quoting rogerbcn (Thread starter): that these as well as longer ones are not very pleasant. I am surprised to hear such an answer, I expected some more enthusiasm for the job |
That's a shame. I wonder whether this is because she simply doesn't enjoy her job or because of the working conditions that UX offers...
Quoting rogerbcn (Thread starter): 30D was still empty and so remained until one of the last passengers to board took it ending my dream of having a free seat next to mine.
|
I hate when that happens. So frustrating! .
Thanks for putting this together. I hope you had a good time on the islands. My sister was at the Balearic islands last summer and she loved it.
Happy New Year,
Stojan |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: rogerbcn Posted 2013-01-06 07:31:26 and read 3049 times.Hola Stojan!
Thanks for your comments.
I do to, and this year I am planning on travelling BCN-IBZ-PMI-MAH-BCN which is hitting the three major Balearic Islands, timings are not very appropriate though, I still have to sort out how.
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 8): Given that this is an intra-Catalonian flight were there any announcements in Catalan? In general are any announcements ever done in regional languages? |
Sadly Catalan language is vastly ignored by most airlines, and not only airlines but that's another discussion..., sometimes they play a general recording, IB does on its flights to/from BCN-MAD. Many airlines have their websites in Catalan: IB, UX, VY, FR, AA... but the visibility of other languages rather than 'national' ones is still poor. Given the actual political conditions I do not see a positive future for the language until Catalonia achieves a status of independent nation, a feeling that has grown enormously in the last years 
Yeah! I was positively surprised as well and my immediate thought was, how on Earth does he and his team mates fit on these seats?
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 8): I wonder whether this is because she simply doesn't enjoy her job or because of the working conditions that UX offers... |
I do not know but telling a customer that your job sucks does not give the customer a positive impression.
Roger |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: ba319-131 Posted 2013-01-06 09:45:34 and read 2922 times.Hola Roger!
Nice report and pics, what a great way to the end the year and start a new one - I've still not flown this year!
Quoting rogerbcn (Thread starter): During the flight the BOB service is only conducted to those passengers requesting it, I do not see any trolleys moving around, only trays with cans. |
- I doubt they sell much, who on earth needs to buy a drink/snack on a flight of this duration?
The E190 is a nice little machine, makes a welcome change over the usual A320's and 737's that fill our European skies.
Cheers
Mark |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: stipica Posted 2013-01-06 10:18:05 and read 2892 times.Bon dia R. !
this is something compliantly different ... and I like it ... hehehe ... ... it's nice to read report that shows UX ... just can not connect the company with Espana ...thanks and all the best ... stipica  |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: rogerbcn Posted 2013-01-07 00:29:09 and read 2625 times.Hola nois!
@Mark
I cannot believe it.... be aware that no flights in a month will sign you off automatically from a.net  Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 10): I doubt they sell much, who on earth needs to buy a drink/snack on a flight of this duration? |
My thought, better buy thyem in the airport and enjoy your snack on board.
A great plane, I like the 2-2 seating, it feels more comfortable.
@Stipica
Thanks for your comment.
Roger |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: MSS658 Posted 2013-01-07 03:02:08 and read 2590 times.Hey Roger
Great report, nice to know you where celebrating NYs eve in the balears.
UX doesn't look that bad, especially with the E-jets
I like the writing style in the report.
Greetings
Marc |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: rogerbcn Posted 2013-01-07 04:06:30 and read 2553 times.Hola Marc,
Thanks a lot for your kind comments.
Quoting MSS658 (Reply 13): UX doesn't look that bad, especially with the E-jets
I like the writing style in the report. |
That is exactly my impression, UX and E-jets go very well together.
Roger |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: sultanils Posted 2013-01-07 06:16:31 and read 2499 times.Hello Roger from BCN!
Nice report my friend and you demonstrate that even the short hops can be quite a fun experience. No more UX for me, thanks, my one and only experience with them last year was not the best. But indeed, the better choice over VY, type wise in any case. Besides, I mist admit the cabin interior looks quite good and the legroom seems fine as well.
Quoting rogerbcn (Thread starter): We are pushed back five minutes earlier and the track to the take off starts, no welcome or any route, level information is heard from the flight deck, just the take off in 2 minutes. |
I wonder if that is a Spanish thing. One none of my flights on a Spanish carrier have I heard any comment from the cockpit crew 
Great shot.
Ha ha, lucky that it did this time
Sultanils |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: stipica Posted 2013-01-07 07:36:32 and read 2473 times.Hi Roger ! ... of course my perception
Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 12): Quoting stipica (Reply 11):
. just can not connect the company with Espana
|
1.group ... flag carrier or dominant players or alliance players
must have something which connect brand with the country
-Spanair is obviously ... off course your associations skills must be developed Spain, Spaniard or Span air hehehhe ok in English but after all SAS is a parent ; old design is not readable but new tail paraphrasing the sun is more connected with Spain
-Iberia is obviously too but you need to be a friend with geography hihihi ; for me one of the most beautiful classic "outfits"
-Vueling is fusion carrier in my book (like Germanwings) ... semi LCC but in bed with potentate heheheh
Vuelo con -ing reminds me of some slang but with Spanish word ; design is urban-modern-trendy but with yellow and with association, positions itself in national colors
2.group ... LCC and charter
free market do whatever you want
-Clickair was pure LCC design or name with no national identity but I don't expect of LCC to have them ( Volotea or charter Air Pullmantur is in the same category )
3.group ... regional ( that not working for potentate )
strong name and design is must ...they need to be visible
Binter Canarias or Islas Airways or Helitt Lineas Aereas are cute little companies with strong design and for regional carrier this is must ... whether to rely on regional characteristics or individually to develop a brand ...
so Air Europa belongs to the first group and does not meet any of the criteria ... since it is in the hands of Globalia Corp. and when we look at history it is not surprising they did not develop better identity ... still in the 2.group ... urgently needs rebranding but unfortunately they are late ...
of course my perception stipica  |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: rogerbcn Posted 2013-01-07 08:55:46 and read 2417 times.Hola nois! Thanks for the replies,
Quoting sultanils (Reply 15): the cabin interior looks quite good and the legroom seems fine as well. |
It is their best point on those planes, I hope the word does not spread so they do not change them back to the B737s
It was the best of the 10 I shot.
Thanks for the explanation, now I get your point.
Roger |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: infodesk Posted 2013-01-07 09:05:04 and read 2409 times.Hi Roger,
That was a nice surprise, seeing a report of your recent trip on here. Super way to see in the New Year. Do you have any pictures of the fireworks?
Good decision to choose UX. AB obviously really cut their flights down in the winter. I too love the Embraers, great little aircraft and the seats look pretty comfy too.
Super photo, I'm sure the views from up there would be stunning.
Quoting rogerbcn (Thread starter): I ask her if such short flights are boring, she confirms that these as well as longer ones are not very pleasant. I am surprised to hear such an answer, I expected some more enthusiasm for the job |
I find that quite sad. She doesn't like short flights, nor long ones, what's left to enjoy?
Again, what a lovely picture.
PMI really is AB land, isn't it?
Quoting rogerbcn (Thread starter): same seat, camera on hand and note block ready to write down my experiences on board, I assume I am not the typical Mallorca passenger. |
No, I'm quite sure you're not!
I remember going to the market there.
Phew, that was lucky, wasn't it? Otherwise 2013 would have got off to a bad start...... 
Happy flying
Infodesk |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: rogerbcn Posted 2013-01-07 09:33:50 and read 2398 times.Hola Hannah!
I was about to read your last TR, but just looking at the pictures my mouth dropped wide open Woaaaaw! Impressed.
Thanks for your comments.
Quoting infodesk (Reply 18): That was a nice surprise, seeing a report of your recent trip on here. Super way to see in the New Year. Do you have any pictures of the fireworks? |
Unfortunately not. I did not take the camera up to the terrace only enjoyed the lights and a few glasses of champagne.
Quoting infodesk (Reply 18): She doesn't like short flights, nor long ones, what's left to enjoy? |
I wonder. I understand that 20 minutes flight are not really a 'pleasant' experience 8 times in a shift but, come on, you have a job which is basically interacting with people so, at least, try to show some enthusiasm, it does not hurt.
It certainly is, on my arrival day all I saw departing from PMI were ABs flying all over my friend's home.
Salut!
Roger |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: adamspotter Posted 2013-01-07 13:52:50 and read 2355 times.Hi Roger,
Another nice report with some great pictures. 2 nice short flights with UX, a great way to end and begin the year!
Thanks for sharing
Brendan |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: rogerbcn Posted 2013-01-08 07:20:47 and read 2220 times.Hola Brendan!
Thanks a lot for your comments.
Quoting adamspotter (Reply 20): Another nice report with some great pictures. 2 nice short flights with UX, a great way to end and begin the year! |
I thought it was my best tribute to the a.net community.
Salut!
Roger |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: OA260 Posted 2013-01-13 07:35:31 and read 1884 times.Hola Roger
Happy New Year to you .
Nice report and I agree the E Jet is better then the usual A320 . I dont get to go on enough of them these days.
Looking forward to your reviews in 2013 .
Regards
Philip  |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: rogerbcn Posted 2013-01-13 09:37:13 and read 1857 times.Thanks Philip!
It certainly is... but nothing beats a great CRJ.
Happy flights in 2013 to you too.
Salut!
Roger |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: taichen Posted 2013-01-24 07:07:22 and read 1484 times.Nice report !
Now, I already said this before: ALL Spanish carriers, no matter which one, are currently a shame ... but then, UX is probably the best one around, ... that girl could just shut her mouth up ... I am being rude, perhaps, but telling your pax that you don't like your work is a big faux-pas. Maybe she just had a bad day ....
And yes, Air Europa certainly needs a rebranding ... it never had a nice brand (they have an über bland logo and livery, in use for some years, after they used the hideous Air Europe former livery from their start) ... I remember when they introduced their "cool , smart, modern" (as they described it ) livery some years ago and it already sucked big time back then ... but I guess (well, I know for sure) that there are many other things to look after right now ... I don't think there should be a strong connection with Spain ... and honestly, I shiver when I read this because I start to think of horrid, rancid cliches ... anyone with went to primary school in Europe should know what the Iberian Peninsula is, regardless how good they are at geography, and IB is already well cliched with the orange-yellow-red colours and the crown ... on the other hand, there is no sense of "Germany-ess" when looking at a Lufthansa plane, or "Dutch-ness" on a KLM bird ... just strong brands / names, clearly linked with those countries.
As for national languages, the political mood certainly is not going that way. I remember when Aviaco used both Galician (during take off) and Catalan (during landing) on VGO-BCN flights ... but more and more people are getting strange ideas about this ... the former Spanair had even lost some costumers (some crazy biggots, but costumers they were) because of their prominent use of Catalan language . ... |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: taichen Posted 2013-01-24 07:11:13 and read 1486 times.Nice report !
Now, I already said this before: ALL Spanish carriers, no matter which one, are currently a shame ... but then, UX is probably the best one around, ... that girl could just shut her mouth up ... I am being rude, perhaps, but telling your pax that you don't like your work is a big faux-pas. Maybe she just had a bad day ....
And yes, Air Europa certainly needs a rebranding ... it never had a nice brand (they have an über bland logo and livery, in use for some years, after they used the hideous Air Europe former livery from their start) ... I remember when they introduced their "cool , smart, modern" (as they described it ) livery some years ago and it already sucked big time back then ... but I guess (well, I know for sure) that there are many other things to look after right now ... I don't think there should be a strong connection with Spain ... and honestly, I shiver when I read this because I start to think of horrid, rancid cliches ... anyone with went to primary school in Europe should know what the Iberian Peninsula is, regardless how good they are at geography, and IB is already well cliched with the orange-yellow-red colours and the crown ... on the other hand, there is no sense of "Germany-ess" when looking at a Lufthansa plane, or "Dutch-ness" on a KLM bird ... just strong brands / names, clearly linked with those countries.
As for national languages, the political mood certainly is not going that way. I remember when Aviaco used both Galician (during take off) and Catalan (during landing) on VGO-BCN flights ... but more and more people are getting strange ideas about this ... Even a BCN based airline, like Vueling, made a big fuss over the need for a Galician version of their website and some pressure was needed, before they included the language. On the other hand , the former Spanair had even lost some costumers (some crazy biggots, but costumers they were) because of their prominent use of Catalan language . ... I have read enopugh nonsense about Spanair "no longer being a true Spanish airline" because it used Catalan during their PA onboard or in their inflight magazine ... even if Spanish and English were also used. |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: palmjet Posted 2013-01-24 08:38:28 and read 1439 times.Hola Roger
Lovely report and great to see your decision making was influenced by the prospect of an EM190 flight - I would have done the same thing!
Amazing to see how quiet PMI is in the winter. I've only ever been there in the summer when all gates seem to be in use at the same time. However, I've read that PMI can be very pleasant in the winter months for a city break and I am tempted to pop down there from London at some point before the summer season starts.
Lovely pic of the W hotel reflections on your way back - super!
Thanks again. Palmjet |
Topic: RE: New Year's Farewell: BCN-PMI-BCN On UX Username: rogerbcn Posted 2013-01-24 08:58:38 and read 1420 times.Hola nois!
Thanks for your comments on this tiny TR to PMI for New Year's.
@Taichen
Quoting taichen (Reply 25): I shiver when I read this because I start to think of horrid, rancid cliches ... |
I totally agree with you.
Quoting taichen (Reply 25): As for national languages, the political mood certainly is not going that way. |
I do certainly agree here on all your comments. There was a point when even LX used Catalan in their flights to/from BCN, until some people started complaining about it...
@Palmjet
Quoting palmjet (Reply 26): the prospect of an EM190 flight - I would have done the same thing! |
Really true a.netter spirit there.
It is certainly pleasant in winter, soooooooooo different to the summer months.
Salut!
Roger |
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