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Topic: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2013-01-21 13:05:08 and read 13966 times.

Dear fellow A.Netters, welcome to my latest batch of trip reports, this being number one of five, which I hope to produce on a more timely manor than some of my last reports.

This trip came about as a result of needing to use up my return ANA 787 flight, the outbound having taken place back in February.

The original point of this trip was to get on the Malaysia Airlines A380, however I wanted to do this once they joined OneWorld, I also planned to fly on the Thai A380 on the same trip, this would be easy as Thai were running it to HKG and SIN prior to entering longhaul services to FRA.

Needing to get to Japan, I discovered I could fly on a Delta 777-200LR from HKG, the -200LR is missing from the flown log, so this was an easy sale, plus it was the cheapest option too!

So, TG A380 and DL 77L booked, NH 787 to FRA already booked, three more flights needed to be booked, one or two to get to BKK and one to get home from FRA.

The latter was easy, www.ba.com and a one way seat booked to LHR on BA903.

Getting to BKK was taking a time though, MH showed no signs of giving a joining date for OW and time kept ticking on, in the end I booked a BA return in WTP to HKG, leaving the return in March so I could try again for the MH A380, then booked a TG flight one way to BKK.

All of the new flights were booked directly on the airline websites, no issues occurring during the booking processes and all allowed seats to be allocated at time of booking.

So, all sorted, final trip looks like this, thanks to Karl L. Swartz



Flying:-

BA LHR-HKG 744
TG HKG-BKK 333
TG BKK-HKG 380
DL HKG-NRT 77L
NH HND-FRA 788
BA FRA-LHR 763

Not a single narrow body in sight, what a refreshing change.

About a week before the flight I check the seat map again, yes I do it daily! - the blocked out good seats have opened up so I grab a good one, despite being a silver member I still have to part with £60 for an emergency exit seat……

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I had already decided not to accept the upgrade offer on my phone………..



Fast forward to departure day, my car and driver arrived some 20 minutes early, I let him wait as I still had work to do and sort the dogs out, I've 2 now, Fred & Dougal, Fred is 4 and Dougal is 15 weeks.

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The ‘boys’ in the local pub with me 



The drive to the airport was quick enough, the M25, AKA a car park, was flowing nicely, I'd hope so at just after 3 in the afternoon, another 30 minutes and it would be a different story.

The car pulled up outside Terminal 5, I do like the drop off area, it’s wearing well too.

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I was soon inside, despite having checked in online and having the boarding pass on my phone



I stopped at a kiosk and printed off a paper copy, not to be used, just another keepsake.

Inside T5 there is a memory tree from the Olympic games

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Next stop was American Express to pick us some money. I have to say no matter how many times I use these facilities, they always seem to take forever, changing money, even small sums, is such a chore.

Until today I had never noticed the how busy is security message, I always look now, they always seem to read the same

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Next stop is for a passport check before proceeding through Fast Track security.

Though not so fast right now due to people who don't plan for security, ie they are not ready, still wearing coats, fumbling through luggage and pockets to find liquids, laptops and such like, jeepers these people annoy me!

Anyway, my turn, I don't beep but one of my bags is select for secondary screening. I have noted this is happening more and more when I travel through T5, suspect it is because Heathrow keeps failing its security checks, or so I hear, which means more passengers have to have 'random' bag checks, regardless, they find no dodgy substances in my carry on bag, I could have told them that!

So, I find myself airside, a quick trip into a couple of shops for some necessary items, I forget the all important toothpaste, bugger, before heading to the South Galleries Lounge to try and relax before the flight, it's about 16:00 or so now.

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Greeted at the desk with a smile, a quick scan of the boarding pass on my phone and I pass through into the oasis that is the T5 South Gallaries lounge.

The lounge is quite full this afternoon, as usual the nice window seats are occupied by people who have no interest in the outside world, so I just dump my stuff at a suitably open seat and grab some drinks.

Cheers, drinks and luggage

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Feeling restless I trawl the lounge and find an empty window seat, lovely, though there are no powers sockets, bugger, my i5 needs charging or it will never last to HKG, battery life on these phones is crap.

Trawling again I locate a free window seat with a power socket, I quickly move again to secure this seat and more importantly the power.

So, all is good now, another round of drinks and the some food seems in order.

Just so you now, i took most of the lounge pictures with the iPhone to try and be a bit more discreet, so apologies that they are not up to the usual standard, not that it means much when you look at the great pictures Roni and Nicholas take, you've gotta love those two, proper legends!

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Something to read?

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How are the flights looking?

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I love these old images

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Deserted computer area, the age of wifi and tablets, smart phones etc is rendering these areas mostly redundant

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Cake anyone?

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Soup perhaps?

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Help yourself!

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So, food offerings aplenty as we have already seen, however I found these……

Jacket potatoes! Yummy, not seen these on offer before, I have to have one, I'll take chilli beef on top.

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So, food eaten, phone charged, e-mails done, work never ends, and another glass of vino drunk, the monitor has flashed up gate B36 for BA25, with just under an hour before departure, I figure this is a good time to head over there.

Images en-route

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Great advertising, shame the onboard service fails to deliver

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At the gate

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Gate B36 is just to the left as you arrive arrive in theT5B departure hall, quite a crowd there already, I head towards the priority boarding area as I figure boarding will start at any moment.

No escaping the fact Christmas is just around the corner

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I fall into what I consider to be an obvious queue, however a chap moves past me with his wife in tow, I pass comment, perhaps a tad louder than I should, 'I guess I should have been more obvious where the queue starts', the mans wife mutters to her husband to get in the queue, They both fall back in line behind me, I smirk, though they can't see that.

Little is happening in the gate area, by 18:00 it is evident we are behind schedule, one of the ground staff comes over to the area where my queue is and explains the explains the plane was late on stand and is being cleaned and having its security checks, I thank her for letting us know, a few others follow my lead.

Soon after, pre-board for those with infants and those that need more time is announced, a good sign that we will be on the move soon.

Finally at 18:16, boarding is called for First, Club World, Gold and Silver members, quite a few of us Tonight as we surge forwards,all desperate to get aboard and secure the sacred overhead bins space, I am no exception, stopping only to view the beast taking me to Hong Kong tonight, G-CIVW, I make a note and take a quick picture before heading to the plane.

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Continued Below

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2013-01-21 13:06:55 and read 13969 times.



15-11-2012
BA25
LHR-HKG
747-436 G-CIVW
Seat 28B World Traveller Plus
1st Flight on this aircraft, 20th 747-400 Flight
Sch Dep 18:40 Sch Arr 14:20
Act Dep 19:22 Act Arr 15:08

After stopping for the above photo it was down the escalator and down the jetway to door 2L, no queue ahead of me, a smile from the FA and a welcome aboard, a quick check of the boarding pass, and directed me off to the right, not that I need any direction, through the lower deck Club World seats and through into the WTP cabin, the first seat on the right is 28B, my single 'billy no mates' seat, home for the next 11+ hours.

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It's a number of years since I have flown WTP, actually Feb 2007! - funnily enough in 28J from LAX, sitting down you soon realise why these seats are so sought after by solo travellers, the little table next to you and the excellent legroom are superb.

The only downside for us folks is no direct window so not takeoff and landing shots, for the space I can live with that!

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The view ahead and around the door looks a little tatty, I forget, should there have been a door/cover over the equipment?

Looking across the cabin during boarding

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One thing to note, the overhead locker here is full of crew 'stuff' so board early and use the overhead locker space for 28 D&E before they arrive.

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The masses streamed past my seat, the odd WTP taking up occupancy until all but one of tonights WTP seats were occupied, that being directly behind me, no need to feel guilty about taking up somebody's space should I decided to recline, which in fairness I rarely do.

At 18:55 the first officer, sorry, forgot his name, said a quick hello, apologising for the delay, it seems the aircraft was late on stand from maintenance and we were still refuelling, he advised we should be ready to depart in about 15 minutes. Interesting to note we were not asked to keep our seat belts unfasten during refuelling, I find BA always advise this on my short haul flights when this is happening.....

As the champagne flows ahead of me in Club World, our crew hand out the menu card for tonight's flight, a small piece of card but appreciated, it makes you feel that WTP is something more than economy, it is though not much more & most of the catering is the same.

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Regardless, tonight's choices are stir-fried beef or Seabass, not being a great fish lover, the beef it will be.

Desert is Pear belle Helene, no idea what that is, I'll find out soon enough!

A last shot of the limited view outside

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Push back finally occurred at 19:22, a tad more than the FO advised, but who is keeping track, err me, I've another flight when we get to HKG and and it's not on the same ticket!

Yes I know the drill, pad the schedule very well when you do this, it can all end in tears and expense, we all know this yet take the risk as it saves on hotels or sleeping on an airport bench, I've done the latter once at LAX many years ago, Christmas eve of all nights,never again, getting too old for that, I like my comfort!

Taxi out to the active is short tonight, this because 09R is being used, a couple of company machines depart before us, including a BA A321 still in it's bmi livery.

Looking ahead into CW

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Soon it's our turn, it's a rolling departure off of the taxiway, passing T3 where three A380's are parked side by side awaiting their passengers, SQ, EK and QF of course, wheels up @ 19:40, exactly one hour behind schedule.

The crew were released soon after departure and soon returned with a hot towel service, real cloth towels and bloody hot too!

The seatbelt signs was extinguished at 19:50, I figured this was a good time for a jaunt to the toilet before drinks would be served.

Pic of the loo, nice to see moist towels to sanitise the toilet seat.

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The drinks trolly was rolled out at 20:00, time for a G&T, gasping by now after that ground delay, drinks were served with sour cream pretzels, the same as found in the lounge.

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Note the plastic cup, wine is served in real glassware.

A quick update of the flown log

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Time to dig out the moving map

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Whilst reading my book I could smell food warming in the ovens, it would soon be feeding time at the zoo,soon enough the trolleys rolled out @ 20:35 with our dinner.

A young chap called Sam was serving our aisle, unlike his colleague on the other side, he served all the meals before returning and offering drinks, I took a Spanish red which was perfectly drinkable, in fairness, it was the only red wine offered so little choice is it was terrible.

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Here is tonight's meal, note the linen napkin and real metal cutlery.

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The starter was pretty good, pasta with black olives, sliced red onion,green and red peppers, not bad at all.

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The main course was good, served in a proper ceramic dish, unlike the tin cartons you get in economy. The beef was tender and melted in the mouth, all in all a very tasty meal and the quantity was sufficient too, most impressed!

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The bread was interesting, looked like a half and half, shame there was no butter to spread on it, cost cutting no doubt.

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Desert

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Yes, nice and tasty, I'm not normally a 'pudding' chap, but this was very nice, I'd happily eat another if put in front of me.

All in all this was a pretty god meal, I was more than happy.

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Tea and coffee service commenced at 21:05, since it was on the tray I asked Sam for another red wine, this was handed over with a smile.

Meal trays were cleared 15 minutes later, pretty well timed IMO.

So here I am, heading towards Estonia, I can see P's home country on the moving map and I'm tapping away on my iPad whilst having the occasional sip of red wine, life's not all bad.

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The bright screens lighting up the darkened cabin mid flight, this is the economy section behind WTP.

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Wine finished, a quick trip to the toilet then via the galley for another wine to nurse with a few pages of my book, bless him, Sam gave me two bottles, well that should see me through a few pages and some sleep.

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I managed to drop off for a few hours, waking with around three hours to go and just as a water/juice run was being done, this was the second I'd seen during the flight.

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The cabin lights came on with two hours ten to go, five minutes later the carts roll out.

Sam is again serving our row, offerings are breakfast, traditional English or a vegetarian option, the former for sure please, tea/coffee offered, I take the latter.

This is a breakfast straight out of economy, no linens or metal cutlery this time.

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Not a bad little breakfast and sufficient for sure, though given the local time I would have been quite happy with a sandwich, all in all the food was tasty and thankfully breakfast was not swimming in liquid like it is on the domestic runs, I avoid in these, however the coffee was dire, quite a poor excuse for coffee to be honest, but it's no real surprise, coffee seems to be quite tough for the airlines to get right, though I have had a good cup or two when flying Swiss FCL.

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Meal trays are cleared away about 40 minutes later.


Looking at the inflight map, it is Interesting to see we have now climbed to 39,000ft, at one point over China we had dropped to 29,000ft and cruise over Europe had been 35,000ft.

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Not much to see outside

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With least than 50 minutes to go the crew came around with landing cards, I'd actually prefer it if these were hand out earlier in the flight, it seems so last minute handing them out now.

The FO came on the mike and advised we would be in a holding pattern for a while due to high winds in the Hong Kong area, this was slowing traffic down, indeed it did slow us down, the hold was quite considerable and pushed our expected arrival of 14:37 to after 15:00

As it happened wheels were down, heavily I might add, at 15:08.

As we taxied in I noticed we were pulling onto a remote stand, once on stand the FO again came on the mike and advised we had lost our gate due to the late arrival and busses would take us to the terminal building.

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As you can imagine it took a while to get on a bus, the flight was over 90% full as best as I could tell, looking at the lower Club World seating as I walked through, they pretty much all seemed to have had some use.

It’s always great standing next to a 747

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During the ride to the terminal I manage to make a few new registrations, always a bonus when being bussed.

Immigration was very quick, I was airside in a hot and sticky Hong Kong in no time at all.

Summary?

All in all a great flight really.

Lounge access pre-flight is always great, it allows you some time to get your yourself sorted and properly relaxed prior to the flight.

I’m really glad I decided not to splurge on an upgrade to Club World, the improved catering and the space of with this seat really make it unnecessary, plus the money can be used towards something else. That said, WTP might be a hard sell to the wife......we will see how she get’s on when we fly to JFK in January.

Thanks for reading, feel free to drop a line/comment/question, always nice to know people read this stuff we take time to publish.

The next report with be TG on a newish A330 to BKK in JCL.

Cheers

BA319-131 - AKA Mark

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2013-01-21 13:33:41 and read 13918 times.

Nice report Mark....looking forward to seeing the rest!

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
BA LHR-HKG 744
TG HKG-BKK 333
TG BKK-HKG 380
DL HKG-NRT 77L
NH HND-FRA 788
BA FRA-LHR 763

Looks like a good selection of flights!

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I had already decided not to accept the upgrade offer on my phone………..

Ha, I wonder why!

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Next stop was American Express to pick us some money. I have to say no matter how many times I use these facilities, they always seem to take forever, changing money, even small sums, is such a chore.

Was that the one next to Galleries North? They were shockingly slow when I used them back in September.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I fall into what I consider to be an obvious queue, however a chap moves past me with his wife in tow, I pass comment, perhaps a tad louder than I should, 'I guess I should have been more obvious where the queue starts', the mans wife mutters to her husband to get in the queue, They both fall back in line behind me, I smirk, though they can't see that.

Ha

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
As the champagne flows ahead of me in Club World, our crew hand out the menu card for tonight's flight, a small piece of card but appreciated, it makes you feel that WTP is something more than economy, it is though not much more & most of the catering is the same.

Is that a new enhancment, or something reserved for the Far Eastern routes (like on LH). Did it have Chinese on the back?

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
The main course was good, served in a proper ceramic dish, unlike the tin cartons you get in economy. The beef was tender and melted in the mouth, all in all a very tasty meal and the quantity was sufficient too, most impressed!

Food looks good, but the presentation is a bit messy. Shame they serve it with the foil on

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
This is a breakfast straight out of economy, no linens or metal cutlery this time.

WTP is a bit schizophrenic. A bit Club, and bit Y....they should try the NZ Y+ to see how it should be done.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
It’s always great standing next to a 747

Always...nothing beats it! Both of my 2011 744 trips ended up being bussed.

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: 767747
Posted 2013-01-21 14:41:35 and read 13709 times.

Great report, Mark! Good to see another report from your travels.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I had already decided not to accept the upgrade offer on my phone………..

Wow, that's expensive! I can't imagine too many people taking that offer up.

Food looks pretty good in WTP, and the product seems to be overall a good value for money. My parents have flown the JFK-LHR route a few times and have said they really enjoyed the WTP product - maybe something to try sometime soon!

All best!

Matthew

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: jwhite9185
Posted 2013-01-22 04:59:01 and read 12589 times.

Hi Mark, great to get a little insight into WTP. I'll be flying in that cabin myself in a couple of months so good to see what to expect from BA after may years of flying with VS in their premium economy. Not too sure I'll go for the solo seat though - would prefer a window I think!

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: rogerbcn
Posted 2013-01-22 08:18:03 and read 12247 times.

Hola Mark!

Great to read a new TR from you. Good to see you back in the forum with such an interesting flight on WTP, something we do not see here often, a nice addition.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Not a single narrow body in sight, what a refreshing change.

That is indeed a good selection of planes.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I had already decided not to accept the upgrade offer on my phone………..

You greedy man! Are you from Scots descent?  
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I love these old images

I do love them too. I remember they had a whole set in the Galleries lounge at T1, is it still hanging on T5?

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 1):
It's a number of years since I have flown WTP, actually Feb 2007! - funnily enough in 28J from LAX, sitting down you soon realise why these seats are so sought after by solo travellers, the little table next to you and the excellent legroom are superb.

No wonder, this seat is coveted by all fliers, the legroom and the nice tray next to it makes it feel very special.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 1):
All in all this was a pretty god meal, I was more than happy.

Your signature picture, good boy!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 1):
though I have had a good cup or two when flying Swiss FCL.

On LX they have those wonderful Nespresso machines, I have had some good espressos on IB J as well.

Salut!

Roger

[Edited 2013-01-22 08:19:19]

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: aerdingus
Posted 2013-01-22 08:34:03 and read 12196 times.

Hi

I did this exact same flight last year, in World Traveller & on -BYGD & -BNLP though! WT+ looks great, I would love to try that on my next jaunt to Asia. I found the service great in the back on BA, but comfort was terrible.

Thanks for sharing  

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: PlaneHunter
Posted 2013-01-22 10:24:50 and read 11994 times.

Hi Mark,

very interesting report about BA's WTP product, cannot remember seeing that here recently. It looks okay, but I'm not sure whether I would book it. Was it much more expensive than Y Class?

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
BA LHR-HKG 744
TG HKG-BKK 333
TG BKK-HKG 380
DL HKG-NRT 77L
NH HND-FRA 788
BA FRA-LHR 763

Great itinerary!

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Not a single narrow body in sight, what a refreshing change.

  

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I had already decided not to accept the upgrade offer on my phone………..

That was a rather pricey upgrade offer...

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I need any direction, through the lower deck Club World seats and through into the WTP cabin, the first seat on the right is 28B, my single 'billy no mates' seat, home for the next 11+ hours.

Very good seat. But is it tends to be quite chilly near the emergency exit on certain aircraft. Any such feeling?

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
The main course was good, served in a proper ceramic dish, unlike the tin cartons you get in economy. The beef was tender and melted in the mouth, all in all a very tasty meal and the quantity was sufficient too, most impressed!

That looks very good!

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
, however the coffee was dire, quite a poor excuse for coffee to be honest, but it's no real surprise, coffee seems to be quite tough for the airlines to get right, though I have had a good cup or two when flying Swiss FCL.

I even got excellent decaf espresso in LX J Class. LH usually serves good (regular) coffee and I was also impressed by the coffee served on Air Dolomiti and Alitalia.


PH

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: planiac787
Posted 2013-01-22 10:52:32 and read 11926 times.

Good report Mark..

Nice to see a WTP report. As ph said you dont get them that often.
I love your itinerary.. Not a single narrow body...
Food for premium economy looks good ( proportion wise.)
You got more food than me when I was travelling in J with lufthansa....
Coffee in the lh flight was actually good.

Well done once again..Looking forward for the rest of the reports

Cheers

Pradat

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: The777Man
Posted 2013-01-24 02:19:18 and read 10888 times.

Hi Mark !

Thanks for a great report with great pictures !

Itinerary looks very promising so very much looking forward to more reports!

BA's WTP looks great and the meals look good as well.

Looking forward to the next part in the series!

The777Man

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: lukeyboy95
Posted 2013-01-24 19:31:46 and read 10581 times.

Hi Mark,

An excellent report! Thoroughly enjoyed, and i really think BA are keeping standards fairly high. I also had a couple of excellent flights with BA recently.

I also felt you got good bang for your buck. And T5 looked smart, and as you say, is aging well so far.

Thanks for a great report. Looking forward to TG offering. Almost booked their BKK-HKG promo, but funds are a little dry these days..

best

Luke!

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: MSS658
Posted 2013-01-26 14:14:04 and read 10017 times.

Hey Mark

Another interesting report, thanks for sharing it with us!
Interesting to see the config of WTP, nice to have a solo seat for such a long flight.
Personally I think WTP is a great value for money, is definate a great opup from Y

Greetings
Marc

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: OA260
Posted 2013-01-27 12:49:26 and read 9613 times.

Hey Mark  

Great report. That was indeed a nice seat to bag well done. WTP looks very decent these days especially with the catering as you say .

Great to see the boys enjoying the pub  

Look forward to the next part.

Regards

Philip  

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: Sultanils
Posted 2013-01-28 01:36:57 and read 9401 times.

Hi Mark,

Interesting read! Good to see you spoiling yourself with a better seat and better food. I hope the wallet was saved as well with that in contrast to a business class seat.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
About a week before the flight I check the seat map again, yes I do it daily!

Oh oh, compulsory disorder alert 

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I have noted this is happening more and more when I travel through T5, suspect it is because Heathrow keeps failing its security checks, or so I hear, which means more passengers have to have 'random' bag checks

So if they want less failures, they should hand search more bags? Strange conclusion...

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Deserted computer area, the age of wifi and tablets, smart phones etc is rendering these areas mostly redundant

Of course there has to be wifi provided which is unfortunately not always the case...

Sultanils

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: knightsofmalta
Posted 2013-01-31 20:22:28 and read 8947 times.

Hi Mark

Thanks for the great report. I've always wondered about BA's WTP and from your pictures I must say I am quite impressed. It always strikes me with BA just how well they cater to the needs of the business traveler.

And I'm green with envy that you managed to deplane onto the tarmac in Hong Kong!

Thanks for posting.

Cheers,
William

P.S. I really like the picture of Fred and Dougal!

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2013-02-02 11:28:03 and read 8412 times.

Hey, M.,

really good to follow you´re BA experience for HKG.
I should do the same in a couple of days, if nothing goes wrong, not on BA but still the same alliance!.
Nice pictures also.
Looking forward to the next part.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2013-02-17 01:19:42 and read 7504 times.

Hi All,

Just a random selection of comments:-

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
BA LHR-HKG 744
TG HKG-BKK 333
TG BKK-HKG 380
DL HKG-NRT 77L
NH HND-FRA 788
BA FRA-LHR 763

Looks like a good selection of flights!

- Thanks Gabriel, sure was nice to be narrow body free for a while.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Next stop was American Express to pick us some money. I have to say no matter how many times I use these facilities, they always seem to take forever, changing money, even small sums, is such a chore.

Was that the one next to Galleries North? They were shockingly slow when I used them back in September.

- No, this was the airside one on the departure level.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
As the champagne flows ahead of me in Club World, our crew hand out the menu card for tonight's flight, a small piece of card but appreciated, it makes you feel that WTP is something more than economy, it is though not much more & most of the catering is the same.

Is that a new enhancment, or something reserved for the Far Eastern routes (like on LH). Did it have Chinese on the back?

- Not sure but deffo no Chinese on the back, shame given the menu was also the same for the PEK & PVG flighs.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
WTP is a bit schizophrenic. A bit Club, and bit Y....they should try the NZ Y+ to see how it should be done.

- Agreed, that is a step up for sure.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 3):
Great report, Mark! Good to see another report from your travels.

- Cheers Matthew  
Quoting 767747 (Reply 3):
Food looks pretty good in WTP, and the product seems to be overall a good value for money. My parents have flown the JFK-LHR route a few times and have said they really enjoyed the WTP product - maybe something to try sometime soon!

- It's certainly worth the extra legroom, those extra inches make a huge difference, even if you have a seat in front of you.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 4):
I'll be flying in that cabin myself in a couple of months so good to see what to expect from BA after may years of flying with VS in their premium economy

- Will be interesting to see what you think, I suspect the VS product is slightly better.

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 4):
Not too sure I'll go for the solo seat though - would prefer a window I think!

- Trust me, on a night flight this is better.

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 5):
Great to read a new TR from you. Good to see you back in the forum with such an interesting flight on WTP, something we do not see here often, a nice addition.

- Thanks Roger  
Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 5):

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Not a single narrow body in sight, what a refreshing change.

That is indeed a good selection of planes.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I had already decided not to accept the upgrade offer on my phone………..

You greedy man! Are you from Scots descent?

- Funny you should ask, a long time ago in history....

Quoting rogerbcn (Reply 5):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I love these old images

I do love them too. I remember they had a whole set in the Galleries lounge at T1, is it still hanging on T5?

- Not sure to be honest but there are stack of them dotted around the lounge and in the toilets.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7):
Was it much more expensive than Y Class?

- Honestly can't remember PH.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7):
Very good seat. But is it tends to be quite chilly near the emergency exit on certain aircraft. Any such feeling?

- Your right about that but don't recall any issues with the cold on this flight.

Quoting planiac787 (Reply 8):
Well done once again..Looking forward for the rest of the reports

- Cheers Pradat  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):
Thanks for a great report with great pictures !

- Thanks Lars.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 10):
An excellent report! Thoroughly enjoyed

- Glad you enjoyed Luke.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 11):
Personally I think WTP is a great value for money, is definate a great opup from Y

- Indeed!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 12):
Great to see the boys enjoying the pub  

- Thanks Philip  
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 13):
I hope the wallet was saved as well with that in contrast to a business class seat.

- Too right!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 13):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
About a week before the flight I check the seat map again, yes I do it daily!

Oh oh, compulsory disorder alert

- I expect we all do it on a regular basis.............

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 14):
And I'm green with envy that you managed to deplane onto the tarmac in Hong Kong!

- Ha, yes a great feeling  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 15):

Hey, M.,

really good to follow you´re BA experience for HKG.
I should do the same in a couple of days, if nothing goes wrong, not on BA but still the same alliance!.

- Looking forward to checking your's out Markus.

Cheers

Mark

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: eastafspot
Posted 2013-02-18 14:07:13 and read 7227 times.

Very good and informative report about the WTP; 60 quids for a long flight like this can be a good investment. the diner is correct especially with some details like linen napkin or metal cutlery

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
as usual the nice window seats are occupied by people who have no interest in the outside world

So true, or passengers sleeping while having a window seat, when you got a middle or aisle seat   .

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
it would soon be feeding time at the zoo

Nicely said   

Thanks for sharing, looking forward to reading the TG in Biz

Leonard

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: newbief1yer
Posted 2013-02-19 03:18:48 and read 6994 times.

What a Fantastic and informative trip report Ba319-131
Still trying to figure out what your user id means :-S

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2013-03-17 03:36:40 and read 5782 times.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 17):
Very good and informative report about the WTP

- Thanks for reading, glad you enjoyed.

Quoting newbief1yer (Reply 18):
What a Fantastic and informative trip report Ba319-131

- Glad you enjoyed, thanks for reading and taking the time to drop a reply  
Quoting newbief1yer (Reply 18):
Still trying to figure out what your user id means :-S

- Unfortunately not what I'd like  

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: abrelosojos
Posted 2013-03-24 16:32:23 and read 4833 times.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
A young chap called Sam was serving our aisle, unlike his colleague on the other side, he served all the meals before returning and offering drinks, I took a Spanish red which was perfectly drinkable, in fairness, it was the only red wine offered so little choice is it was terrible.

= This is weird as training on many airlines is about both sides being coordinated. Asian airlines do this especially well.

Thanks a lot for the report. While the aircraft (especially the interior) looks dated, I found the service and the meal to be rather good. I have flown BA WTP once - LHR/LAX and it was a good experience.

Thanks for sharing.

Saludos,
Alex

Topic: RE: 2012 - Asia Again - BA25 WTP Part 1
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2013-03-31 05:55:01 and read 4436 times.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 20):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
A young chap called Sam was serving our aisle, unlike his colleague on the other side, he served all the meals before returning and offering drinks, I took a Spanish red which was perfectly drinkable, in fairness, it was the only red wine offered so little choice is it was terrible.

= This is weird as training on many airlines is about both sides being coordinated. Asian airlines do this especially well.

- Agreed, it's something that is an annoyance of mine, mainly as I like a drink with my meal rather than have without or have to wait until they are served.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 20):
Thanks a lot for the report

- Thanks for taking the time to read Alex  
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 20):
While the aircraft (especially the interior) looks dated, I found the service and the meal to be rather good. I have flown BA WTP once - LHR/LAX and it was a good experience.

- The interior is indeed dated, hopefully some of the long stayers will get some kind of refresh but I doubt it.

One of the things I like about BA is you know what to expect and are unlikely to be particularly disapointed.

Cheers

Mark


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