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Topic: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2006-06-09 22:49:35 and read 6749 times.

UK, the classic way, BA from STR



Introduction:
I was for several times in the UK, not my seven year old son, he saw the pictures and hear my stories, so we decided early this year to do a
father/son trip around southern England during the school holidays early June.
Three competitors operated on STR-London, Germanwings with flights to Stansted, LH to Heathrow and London-City, BA to Heathrow.
Unbelievable for all non well informed travellers, but true, Germanwings had the highest fare, followed by LH and BA has the cheapest one.
Heathrow was a good location to start our journey, so no further questions and booked the flights mid January.




Sunday, 04.06.2006
STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen) - LHR (London-Heathrow)

Fact sheet:


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BA 917 operated by British Airways A320-200 G-BUSJ
Scheduled: 07.00 // 07.55
Actual: 07.15 // 07.45
Gate:? Seat: 23E/F
Load factor: near 100 %
Fare: 218,60 EUR return both pax



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History:
Delivered new to BA: 06.08.1990
Leased out to GBAirways: 15.03.2005
Returned to BA: 31.10.2005

Internet check-in is available for ExeClub members 24 hours prior to departure, I tried to choose this option at saturday morning, but it doesn´t work.
My son and me planned a airport visit at saturday afternoon, I decided to do another try there at the check-in machines.
At the machines at STR T1 a friendly male agent approached me before I had the chance to bring my card in and checked us in manual for our flight the next morning.
Bad wheather, cold and rainy this sunday morning, on the way by car at 05.15 am to STR airport.
I decided to credit the miles on my CathayPacific AsiaMiles account.
We arrived finally at STR T1 at 06.00 am, about 20 pax at the x-ray machine in front off the two open check-in and the third bag drop-off counter. We joined the queue, but only seconds later another friendly young male saw our boarding passes, picked us from the queue and send us directly in front to x-ray and than to the bag drop off counter.
The lady at the counter looked like Camilla Parker-Bowles, welcome England!.
No more than 5 minutes after we arrived in the terminal we´re on the way through security, passport control and settled down at the usual early morning BA finger gate.
The plane was on night-stop.

Bad wheather conditions at STR:






G-BUSJ at STR:






FLIEGER98 at STR T1:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06007.jpg




Boarding started than early at 06.30 am, no rows or prioritys. We´re pax no. 8 and 9 on this service.
G-BUSJ this time, leisure flight no. 26 on the A320-200 and the first on this plane and also the first on one of these older BA busses.
Welcomed by a friendly young male FA. I was impressed about the load, never expected such a large number of pax these sunday morning.
The plane filled up rather quick and we´re pushed back and on taxi to runway 25 ontime at around 07.00 am.
A Eurowings CRJ in front for take off and seconds later we´re on the way to sunny and warm southern England.
The classic safety demo, no screens on this plane.
Cloudy sky over the European mainland, good views over the channel. Nearly all leisure travellers on this service.

FLIEGER98 at plane construction work:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06008.jpg




BA offered a hot cheese and bacon sandwich and free beverages/coffee/tea.
Blue leather seats, the cabin shows its age, especially the galley, not dirty but well used.

Inside G-BUSJ:






Good legroom and comfortable classic seats.

Channel crossing:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06012.jpg




After the FA´s finished their service I asked a friendly middle aged female in the back galley about my fact sheet, explained my interest and she picked it up and
brought it to the front off the plane.
Some minutes later the male purser delivered it back to my seat with a invitation from the captain for a cockpit visit after landing at LHR.
At around 08.00 am, we´re on approach to LHR, the captain was on the intercom and informed us about the usual arrival queues, holding for about 20 minutes, we had
an amazing view at another BA A319 in the same holding very close to us.

Amazing view during holding:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06015.jpg




We´re clear to an arrival at runway 27R at 08.30 am and finally arrived at 08.45 am, well ontime.
Deboarding by a finger gate at the middle area of T1, but before we approached the purser and he cleared us to the cockpit.
The captain apologized about the holding, no problem I answered and we had a nice conversation about there work today and my special interest. He showed my son some of the things in his office and later send us off to LHR with shake-hands, great crew.

In the office G-BUSJ:

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G-BUSJ at LHR:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06017.jpg




A long way to go through narrow walkways around T1, no time to wait at passport control and only some minutes at the luggage belt. Not to much people there, IMO a lot of connecting pax on this service.
Out in the public, the lady at the Alamo desk send us to the shuttle service and some 15 minutes later we arrived at the Alamo station, not far from the T5 construction site. I´ve booked the car by Dertour for as low as 116.-- EUROs 4 days all inclusive. Never had such an experience, you sign the rental agreement only by car group,
all the cars parked there by groups and you decide for yourself what car you want, if there is no one in your group available and they can´t serve quick you choose the next higher group. So we ended with a nearly new Renault Clio, a good decision.
I will post some pix from our tour, for all the aviation only interested please go directly to the return leg.
We spent the first night in Southampton, booked the Holiday Inn Express Southampton West by Hotel.de, prepayed 55,25 GBP, a new built, typical HIExpress, easy to reach and not far from the harbour, friendly employees, a recommendable hotel.
We explored the large harbour area and ferried with the High-Speed Catamaran to the Isle of Wight, an interesting experience.

Action at Southampton harbour:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06020.jpg




Hythe pier opposite Southampton:

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A train on the pier?:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06019.jpg




Yes, the world´s oldest active pier train:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06022.jpg





The second night was in Plymouth, mainly to use the Bodmin steam train, Hotel Astor, another recommendable one, dealed with the manager about the GBP 200.-- Suite for GBP 90.--, again reserved by Hotel.de.

This steamer is called Percy:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06024.jpg




The third night was in Portsmouth with its very interesting Royal Navy historic dockyard, the next to of the futuristic Gunwarf complex/Spinnaker tower and the historic ships was real amazing.
Accomodation was the Holiday Inn Express at Gunwarf Quay, all the attractions in walking distance, another new built and recommondable hotel, payed 79,9f GBP by Hotel.de.

No, this is not Dubai:






Old/HMS Warrior and new/Wight-ferry catamaran:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06026.jpg




HMS Warrior and Spinnaker tower:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06027.jpg




HMS Victory:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06028.jpg











Wednesday, 07.06.2006
LHR (London-Heathrow) - STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen)

Fact sheet:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/FSUK06002.jpg






BA 922 operated by British Airways A320-200 G-EUUM
Scheduled: 20.15 // 22.50
Actual: 20.30 // 23.00
Gate: ? 43 Seat: 25 E/F
Load factor: 142 pax = near 100 %



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History:
Delivered new to BA: 23.12.2002


On the way back to LHR at Wednesday, 2 pm.
Enough time, so we´ve done a quick sidestep to Farnborough airport, interesting bizjet activity there and another one to Windsor Castle.

Our car at Farnborough airport:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/UK06/UK06029.jpg




Back at the Alamo station at 05.30 pm. Returned the car without problems, shuttled back and in the terminal at around 6.00 pm.
Only 5 minutes to wait, forgot the check in area, a very friendly girl checked us in, another friendly male at security allowed us to use the staff only channel as there was no staff there and in the gate area at 06.30 pm. We´re pax no. 72/73 on this flight.
We walked to the far outside window area near runway 27R and followed the incoming planes, amazing four widebodies behind on finals in the sky.

Action around LHR T1:






G-EUUM at LHR:






As usual, at 7.30 pm no gate was assigned, we headed back to the central area and short thereafter they announced gate 43, that means nearly back to our earlier place.
Boarding through a finger started as we´re at the gate at around 07.50 pm, this time welcomed by a very friendly older lady. We settled down in the last row and again a good load on this service.
The safety demo was from the drop-down screens, our flight-route later good to follow on the map.
G-EUUM this time. Leisure flight no. 27 on the A320-200 and incredible, BA owns such a huge number of A320 planes but my second flight on this one.
A long way to taxi for a runway 09R departure. We´re no. 7 there, around 15 minutes to wait.
A powerful takeoff, night falls quick and we´re on the way back home.
IMO the legroom on this one was a bit smaller, plane itself looks clean and tidy, well maintained.
Service was a cheese and onion sandwich, not the real thing for us, and free beverages/coffee/tea.
The FA´s finished their service 30 minutes prior to arrival, I asked a male FA about my factsheet and we arranged that he take it to the front and I pick it up during deboarding.
Clear sky during finals and amazing good views at the lights of STR and the red lights around the "Weidacher Höhe" at our runway 07 approach.
Parked at the usual gate from that we started our journey the last sunday. During deboarding the captain awaited me with my factsheet in front, we had a interesting conversation and he asked me if I need more details, yes indeed, so he handed me out some paperwork around our flight, real good.
Back in T1, no more than three minutes to wait at passport control and another five for the bags and we´re on the way back home with lots of interesting UK impressions,
after 4 warm and sunny days.



Conclusion: Thank´s god, that classic airlines like BA survived till now, very friendly people, acceptable fare, ontime flights, thats what I search for.
Will I fly BA again?. Yes, without furthter questions ( Three weeks to go till my next BA flights).



Comments and critics always welcome,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: Pilot320
Posted 2006-06-09 23:12:46 and read 6700 times.

I always love your trip reports. Cheers!

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: Highpeaklad
Posted 2006-06-09 23:16:59 and read 6696 times.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
IMO the legroom on this one was a bit smaller

Thats because the seats which convert to club europe all have 34" pitch the others only have 31", so if you're after legroom try to sit at the front.

I do like your idea of a flight factsheet and I'm pleased to see that the crews take enough of an interest to fill it out for you. Have you ever had problems using it? Do crews ever refuse?

Great report, thanks for taking the time to share your experience, and I'm glad you had a good time in the UK.

Chris

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: Lufthansa747
Posted 2006-06-09 23:19:46 and read 6693 times.

Nice report.

Did you actually get your CXAM miles? I thought they only credit the expensive BA classes.

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: Sabena332
Posted 2006-06-09 23:39:42 and read 6663 times.

A great report as usual, I enjoyed reading and watching! The pic of the other BA plane turning during holding is simply awesome!

Patrick

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: 9VSPO
Posted 2006-06-10 00:16:03 and read 6619 times.

Nice report. The interior of G-BUSJ looks a bit tired now though. Time for BA to come up with a new livery too.  Smile

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: DFW13L
Posted 2006-06-10 00:17:16 and read 6619 times.

Enjoyed the trip report! Love the shot during holding. Thanks for bringing us along for the ride.

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: StocklaAC
Posted 2006-06-10 00:42:07 and read 6580 times.

Markus,

Fantastic FR as always, glad you enjoyed our green and pleasant land! I agree with you 100% about the 'old fashioned' style airlines such as BA, always nice to be treated as a passenger should be rather than as cattle once in a while!

Just getting into these FRs and have to say yours are the best. Do the crews ever reject your info sheets?

Alex

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: CXA330300
Posted 2006-06-10 03:41:23 and read 6468 times.

Great Report!

Agreed that BA is good......do they fly STR-LGW?

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: Aleksandar
Posted 2006-06-10 03:57:44 and read 6462 times.

Markus,

Thanks for another great trip report. It is still unbelievable that Germanwings were the most expensive airline. Interestingly, they will start flying to BEG in September and people (my included) are looking forward to some good fares.

BA does seem like a very good airline and I do want to experience their service some time in the future.

This trip report is also a bit special, becuae you introduced FLIEGER98 to this community. I hope he enjoyed flights just like you did and that he will soon become a full member of this site.

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: BA319-131
Posted 2006-06-10 19:09:00 and read 6236 times.

Hi Markus,

Great report and some super photo's, many thanks.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
BA owns such a huge number of A320 planes but my second flight on this one

- Yes, I have the same problem, i've been on G-EUUL 4 times now!!!

Rgds

Mark

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: Concorde001
Posted 2006-06-10 19:54:27 and read 6211 times.

Brilliant trip report! I loved reading it.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
back home with lots of interesting UK impressions

Good or bad?  Wink

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2006-06-10 19:58:26 and read 6206 times.

Hi, first thanx for all these replys, that makes the work easier.

Sanjin: Thank you!

Highpeaklad:Good advice with the legroom, now I know more about it.
I started these Fact sheet thing earlier this year and had only positive response till now, hope that will be so in the future!.

Lufthansa747: No credit till now. The main reason for my lower number of BA flights is that FF thing. They partly credited my flights last year and I send a mail to AsiaMiles, the answer was that they credit the flights according to the booking classes, ( I know!) but the AM site is not updated. So I will wait.

Patrick: I can´t believe it as I saw the other one turning behind us.

Ian: You´re absolutely right. In comparison to G-EUUM that will be something to do for BA shortly.

Matt: Thanks.

Alexander: No problems till now with my Fact sheet. IMO they´re surprised that a pax is more interested than usual around they´re job.

CXA330300: No, there is no Gatwick connection from STR.

Aleksandar: Yes, thats the reality now between Full fare and Low cost.
I will do my very best to advice FLIEGER98 the right way to the future!
BTW, he enjoyed our trip very much.

Mark: Two times on the same plane, or even four times, not the real thing for us A.netters.

Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2006-06-10 20:09:11 and read 6196 times.

Hi, Concorde001,
thanx also for your feedback.
What a question, positive!
Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: Contact Air
Posted 2006-06-11 20:58:34 and read 5972 times.

Hi Markus,

once again a fantastic report with great pics! I always like it when some non-aviation pics are included as well.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Three competitors operated on STR-London, Germanwings with flights to Stansted, LH to Heathrow and London-City, BA to Heathrow.
Unbelievable for all non well informed travellers, but true, Germanwings had the highest fare, followed by LH and BA has the cheapest one.

I have experienced this as well when searching for fares to London: Germanwings sells STR-STN for very expensive prices. I would never use them when going to London as long as BA and LH offer good fares to LHR or LCY which are much better airports with better connections to city centre than from STN.

I agree with you: BA is still a high quality airline and probably among the best airlines here in Europe.

Christoph

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: Semsem
Posted 2006-06-11 23:09:03 and read 5932 times.

Thanks for the pictures of Portsmouth, Southampton and your son. Nice change from only aeroplane pictures.

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2006-06-12 22:13:49 and read 5766 times.

Hi, Christoph and Semsem,

I´am glad that you liked my pix.
LH operates with sunday rule or a minimum three nights stay, but when all the Loco-users will know that BA sells all seats as oneways, what will they book?.
Germanwings, because it´s so reasonable cheap and they dont really compare the fares!.
Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: Tmarch291
Posted 2006-06-12 23:01:51 and read 5752 times.

Great TR and Pics,

Its pretty funny that Germanwings was the most expensive. Is seems if many legacy carriers are even making their fares lower than so-called LCC's.

~Tim

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: TriStar500
Posted 2006-06-13 08:50:27 and read 5691 times.

Hi Markus!
Thanks for a great report with some impressive photos! I am sure that you two thoroughly enjoyed your trip. Hopefully, I'll be able to stimulate at least a little bit of interest for travelling and aviation in my kids, when I will have some. I would have loved if my father would have taken me on such tours, alas, travelling was a lot more expensive when I was young, so we usually only made one return flight per year (usually to southern Spain in summer).

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: Ndebele
Posted 2006-06-14 14:59:55 and read 5440 times.

Hi Markus,

wow, once again a highly interesting report about one of my favourite airlines. Also in my opinion, they're definitely the best choice for the STR-LON route. Though it's a real pity that there's still no service STR to LGW.

Having spent some time at both Plymouth and Southampton during my earlier UK trips, I really enjoyed those photos. I haven't been to Portsmouth or Isle of Wight so far, maybe next time, I really like the south of England.
But of course the air-to-air photo beats everything else, simply amazing!

Regards, Alex.

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: A340600
Posted 2006-06-14 18:43:55 and read 5395 times.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Amazing view during holding:

Wow, nice photo! Smile

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 5):
Nice report. The interior of G-BUSJ looks a bit tired now though. Time for BA to come up with a new livery too.

Nonono, the current BA is fine, they've only just got rid of the world tails! Wink

Wonderful report, thankyou very much for sharing.

Sam Smile

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2006-06-14 22:34:03 and read 5355 times.

Hi again and thanx for your replys.

Tim: Thats it, but most of the travellers dont take enough care of it.
A long way to go for the major carriers.
In the case of Germanwings/LH, no problem it´s the same company.

Jens: I will do my very best to advice my son the right direction. When I think back to my earlier years that was also the usual PMI run to my grandfathers house there, simply nothing more.

Alex: Me too, BA is by now the best decision on the STR-LON route.
If I rank the three stays, Portsmouth was the most interesting one, a recommendable destination.
I read about FlyBe services to germany from nearby Southampton, not bad for further visits.

Sam: I like all the "non all white" liverys, the current classic BA one is ok, IMO.

Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: Airbuseric
Posted 2006-06-15 22:14:00 and read 5276 times.

Hey Markus. I just found out you posted another report on here. As always I enjoyed the style you put it all together. Your experiences, those of Flieger98 and your 'non-aviation' part. The region you've visited seems quite ok to me, and you were surely lucky with the weather, as I check your pictures.
I usually try to avoid LHR nowadays due to all the busy traffic. I've experienced waiting times before takeoff which were longer then the actual flight LHR-AMS for me. Just crazy  Sad I think LGW and LTN are much more comfortable. Airfares are usually cheaper, transport to downtown is cheaper or samerate, and baggage reclaim is also faster. Although, LHR offers many great connections to longhaul flights of so many carriers. But for an UK visit, personally I would take not LHR. Anyway, thanks for publishing your stories  Smile

Eric

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: Raventom
Posted 2006-06-17 02:03:47 and read 5201 times.

Great report. Loved how you described the fa's as middle aged women.

Topic: RE: UK, The Classic Way, BA From STR
Username: FLIEGER67
Posted 2006-06-18 12:58:55 and read 5077 times.

Hi, again, straight back from RIX and thanks for your replys.

Eric: Sure, LGW was the No.1 point to start our journey, but there is no operation on this route from STR.
We´re had plenty of time, no connection and especially my son was very interested to visit Europes largest airport, so the decision was LHR.
If I do connections around the UK or Ireland there are sure better opinions.

Thomas: Thanx!

Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)


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