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Day-trip STR To PMI: Condor And TUIfly (+pics)  
User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14
Posted (6 years 9 months 22 hours ago) and read 10284 times:

Earlier that year A.Net-member “Ndebele” had informed me that he had booked a day-trip to Palma de Mallorca, taking off with TUIfly from the newly opened airport “Memmingen / Allgaeu” (FMM) to PMI in the morning and returning to our home airport Stuttgart (STR) in the evening. He asked me if I wanted to join him. I searched for flights but didn’t get the flight FMM-PMI on that day any more at the time I was booking. But I thought a day at Palma de Mallorca in summer wasn’t a bad idea anyway, so I booked a Condor flight STR-PMI in the morning for EUR 39.00 + EUR 23.00 tax (so all in all EUR 62.00) and the return flight PMI-STR together with Ndebele on TUIfly in the evening for EUR 24.99 + EUR 24.05 tax (so all in all EUR 49.04).

If you want to read about Ndebele’s trip from Memmingen to Palma, click here:

New Airport: Memmingen To Palma On TUIfly B 737-300

But now let’s start with my Condor flight:


Monday, 16 July 2007
Stuttgart (STR) – Palma de Mallorca (PMI)
Airline: Condor
Flight number: DE 1622
Scheduled departure time: 07:45
Scheduled arrival time: 09:50
Type of aircraft: Airbus A 320-200
Registration: D-AICK



This aircraft was built and delivered to Condor in 2001.

There isn’t yet a picture of D-AICK in the new, blue colours it is wearing since earlier this year in the database. So here are two pictures of the previous mixed Condor colours:


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Here are some more pictures of former colours and titles of this aircraft:


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Photo © Tomas Mellies




As I live quite close to Stuttgart Airport (only 10 minutes by train), I used the “late night check-in” option which Condor offers at STR every evening between 18:00 and 20:00. I arrived at the airport about 15 minutes before 18:00. There were 3 counters designated for Condor’s late night check-in in Terminal 3. 3 young guys and a mother with her child were already waiting in front of me. At 18:00, 3 Lufthansa check-in agents arrived and opened the counters. I was checked in in no time, got seat number 30F and this somehow shabby looking all-white “Lufthansa Handling Agent” boarding pass:



I also presented my Lufthansa Miles-and-More card and was rewarded with 750 miles. Not that bad for a 39.00EUR one-way flight, especially keeping in mind that I recently got only 250 miles for a Lufthansa return flight STR-TXL-STR that was much more expensive.

On Monday morning I arrived at Stuttgart Airport again at about 7:00. I passed security check which was busy but still didn’t take much time as all check-points were staffed. I proceeded to my gate number 407 on the ground floor in Terminal 4 (which is linked airside with Terminal 3):



The gate was filling with lots of holiday passengers: young people, families with small children and some elderly passengers as well. Boarding was announced at 7:15, half an hour before departure time. A bus took all passengers to our aircraft which would be D-AICK today. Quite a familiar aircraft to me – this was going to be my fourth flight on this bird.

Our aircraft D-AICK, a snapshot from the bus:



Boarding through the rear door – it’s going to be a sunny day:









Welcome sweets were distributed at the doors by the cabin crew that consisted of a male purser and 3 female flight attendants. Newspapers and magazines were available. I took my window seat in the last row but one. The cabin filled quickly; a second and a third bus arrived. The purser announced “Boarding completed; 173 + 2, head-count, please” to his colleagues. So we had a full load on this flight; the aircraft has 174 seats. The safety video was shown on the screens.

The captain made a welcome announcement as well and informed us about our departure route with a take-off to the East and then a sharp right turn. We were off-block on time at 7:45 and taxied to runway 07:



A Lufthansa Regional CRJ 200 was taking off before us, then we had to wait a short time for the landing of an Air Berlin B 737-700 arriving from VIE:



Now it was our turn to take off in Eastern direction. The cargo ramp was unusually busy. According to the information of a local spotter I met the day before, these two Atlas Air B 747 were operated on behalf of DaimlerChrysler:



Passengers could watch the departure from the captain’s point of view on the screens via the outside camera at the front gear. I really enjoy this feature when flying Condor. Unfortunately, the lens was a bit dirty this time. Shortly after take-off: The City of Filderstadt:



We were flying on a quite unusual but nice departure route. This should be the Town of Wendlingen, but I’m not absolutely sure:



The motorway “Autobahn A8” Stuttgart-Munich:



The region around Stuttgart gets quite rural when you get away from the city a bit:



The promised right turn:



The City of Stuttgart; in the centre of this picture you can see “Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadium”:



Then we had a very nice view of Stuttgart Airport again:






DaimlerChrysler car factory at Sindelfingen:



The cabin crew came trough the cabin selling head-phones for EUR 3.00, but I had brought my own one. Like most holiday carriers, Condor offers several audio channels with different kinds of music, as well as a movie programme. On this short flight, they were showing an episode of “King of Queens” which I enjoyed watching:



By the way: I think it was the first time that I really watched the video programme on a charter flight – usually they only show stuff like Miser Bean or Candid Camera which I don’t find too funny – but I guess this is a matter of taste.


The captain came over the microphone again informing us about our flight route which would be STR – Black Forrest – BSLGVA – Rhone – MRS – Mediterranean Sea – PMI. Like many pilots of holiday carriers, he also informed us when there were cities or mountains visible on the right or the left side. I really like this; it is very informative, especially when the air show isn’t working due to movies or series shown on the screens.

Cabin crew started their meal and drinks service. Every passenger got a “Laugenbroetchen” (typical Southern German roll) with cheese (no choice) and two drinks for free – I had a coffee and an orange juice:



It tasted quite good and was all right for the length of the flight.

The Black Forrest:



The River Rhine and the City of Basle:



BSL Airport:



Lake Geneva:



The River Rhone:



The Maritime Alps:






Soon we reached the Mediterranean coastline near Marseille:



Our flight route on the air show:



We were reaching the Island of Mallorca from the North:



An observatory on a mountain in the centre of the island:



As we were flying in from the North but had to approach the airport from the South, we had to fly by the airport, out over the sea, perform a U-turn and return to the airport from the South.

Passing by PMI airport:



The South Coast:



U-turn above the sea:



A cargo ship:



Approaching the coast again:



Final approach:



We touched down on runway 06R and taxied to a remote parking position on the apron. That was the first time the aircraft didn’t use a jet-bridge position when I arrived at PMI. But it is summer holiday time and the airport seemed to be quite busy at that time of the day. We were on-block on time at 09:55.

Apron overview:



I left the aircraft through the rear door:



Two busses took all passengers to the arrivals facilities of the terminal building.


The disadvantage of the arrival at a remote parking position without a jet-bridge was that I wasn’t able to stay airside to expect Ndebele’s arrival and meet him at his gate. So I spent some time spotting landside. Two hours later, at 12:05, Ndebele arrived from FMM and we met in the arrivals area.

We decided to check in for our return flight in the evening first which was already possible as there were 5 counters open for TUIfly “all flights”. A friendly agent from Iberia checked us in and we got seats 17A and 17B, sequence numbers 006 and 007:



We spent the remaining day enjoying the sun outside, then we passed security check for some airside spotting.


Monday, 16 July 2007
Palma de Mallorca (PMI) – Stuttgart (STR)
Airline: TUIfly
Flight number: X3 2217
Scheduled departure time: 20:45
Scheduled arrival time: 22:45
Type of aircraft: Boeing B 737-800
Registration: D-AHFX



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This aircraft was built and delivered to Hapag-Lloyd in 2001. In 2003 it was painted in the blue colours. In 2006 it was transferred to TUI’s low-cost division HLX and was painted in the special “Cagliari / South of Sardinia colours it is still wearing today. In 2007 Hapag-Lloyd and HLX were merged into the new airline TUIfly.

Here are some older pictures of this aircraft:


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At around 20:00 a delay of around 45 minutes was announced for our return flight to Stuttgart. At about 20:30 our aircraft arrived. It was D-AHFX, still in HLX colours and wearing this special “Cagliari / South of Sardinia” paint scheme:



Boarding started at 21:00. We were welcomed by the flight attendants (2 female, 2 male). The cabin was equipped with grey leather seats and pink headrest covers with “Deutsche Telekom” adverts on them. All in all the cabin was I a good condition.

Again a full load on this flight – I didn’t see a free seat. The captain also made a welcome announcement. The apron had emptied since the arrival of our aircraft:



The safety video was shown, then we were off-block at 21:20 and taxied to runway 24R. The airport wasn’t too busy at that time, so no time to wait at the runway. We took off immediately:






Cabin crew offered amenity kits with an eye-cover, ear-plugs and an air pillow for EUR 5.00. But Ndebele and I were so tired after that long day that we would be able to sleep even without these features. The first officer who was operating this flight came over the microphone with a very detailed announcement. He explained the delay with the holiday time and the busy airports in Germany and in the holiday regions. Our flight route would be PMI – Menorca – Gulf of Lyon – Toulon – Maritime Alps – Mont Blanc – GVAZRH – Lake Constance – Swabian Mountains – STR. But as it was a night flight, we weren’t able to see anything of this. So here is my last picture out of the window – the last sunlight of the day:



Food and drinks were distributed – sandwiches again, this time choice between ham and cheese, as well as a drink service:



Again quality of the sandwiches was good.

TUIfly has a nice air-show with 3D-graphics of aircraft and landscape which is enjoyable to watch, especially if it is dark outside. The remaining flight was uneventful – I tried to sleep a bit. Cabin crew performed their duty free sale.

Soon we were approaching STR from the East and touched down on runway 25. We taxied to a parking position in front of the Lufthansa maintenance hangar where we were on-block at 23:10, about 25 minutes late which is still acceptable. Cabin crew distributed sweets at the doors. Two busses took us to the arrivals facilities in Terminal 1. Ndebele and I both left the airport by train in different directions.


Conclusion: This was an enjoyable day-trip to sunny Mallorca. I had the chance to compare Condor and TUIfly on the same route on the same day. I have to say that both airlines offer a similarly good product. Food service, condition of the cabin and entertainment are equal on both airlines – as long as you don’t end up on one of TUIfly’s B 737-300 as Ndebele did on his flight FMM-PMI in the morning. There were friendly cabin crews and a very informative flight deck on Condor as well as on TUIfly. I would fly both airlines again. However, I somehow still prefer Condor a bit, but that’s a personal opinion. Probably it is because I took most of my holiday flights up to now with Condor and was always happy with the flights.

Thanks for reading my report. Questions and comments are always appreciated.

Regards

Christoph

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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5005 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 10196 times:

Hello, Christoph,
a nice saturday evening read, thanx for posting.
I agree, PMI during the summer is always a good idea for an interesting day of spotting new planes.

Quoting Contact Air (Thread starter):
also presented my Lufthansa Miles-and-More card and was rewarded with 750 miles.

Not bad, especially for the one-way flight
 Wink

Quoting Contact Air (Thread starter):
then we had to wait a short time for the landing of an Air Berlin B 737-700 arriving from VIE:

I´ve had absolutely the same view during taxi on Tuesday, the 17th, waiting for departure to HAJ.

Really nice air-to-ground pix!.

Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineGjunnar From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 10191 times:

Another very informative and nicely written TR from STR. Plus great photographs. Good job  bigthumbsup 

User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 9968 times:

Hi Christoph!

Always nice to read a report about a quick dash down to good old Mallorca.  Smile Interestingly, I somehow feel the same about Condor and LTU in comparison to TUIfly and Air Berlin: The first mentioned carriers seem to be in my subjective point of view to have a bit more "class" than the latter ones, even despite there is hardly any difference in the onboard service itself.



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User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9740 times:

Hi Markus, Gunnar and Jens,

thanks for your comments!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Quoting Contact Air (Thread starter):
also presented my Lufthansa Miles-and-More card and was rewarded with 750 miles.

Not bad, especially for the one-way flight

Yes, indeed. I was lucky to fly STR-PMI on Condor and the return on TUIfly - and not the other way round because Condor always credits the complete miles for a return flight in Germany (even if you fly only one-way) but there are no miles rewarded if you fly one-way from a destination abroad to Germany as the non-Gernman Condor stations don't take part in the Miles-and-More system. This is still an old relict from the times when holiday flights were always return flights and no one-way fares were possible.

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 3):
I somehow feel the same about Condor and LTU in comparison to TUIfly and Air Berlin: The first mentioned carriers seem to be in my subjective point of view to have a bit more "class" than the latter ones, even despite there is hardly any difference in the onboard service itself.

Maybe both of us are a bit old-fashioned in this term, so we prefer the "traditional" airlines over the new-comers.  Wink

Regards
Christoph


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3414 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9736 times:

Nice report, the pics didn't work in Firefox but they did in IE Big grin

Quoting Contact Air (Thread starter):

I also presented my Lufthansa Miles-and-More card and was rewarded with 750 miles. Not that bad for a 39.00EUR one-way flight, especially keeping in mind that I recently got only 250 miles for a Lufthansa return flight STR-TXL-STR that was much more expensive.

That is impressive indeed. I've neve runderstood Miles&less's miles policy, and this just confirms it.


User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1661 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9728 times:

Hi Christoph,

It was great to read your report! 'Must say it's amazing how many TR's have their origin in STR  Smile
You've made a nice story with great pics about your daytrip to PMI!
Thanks for sharing!

Schoene Gruesse,
Joost ( DALCE )



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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2898 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 9621 times:

Hi Christoph,

a nice report about DE STR-PMI, which is one of your most frequent airline/route combinations, I think. Good job to have a camera with charged batteries with you, and it resulted in some very nice pics!

Thanks for writing the report about our PMI-STR return flight. I remember when we booked that flight, we had the choice between X3, 4U and AB, who all fly this route at more or less the same time. Knowing the service on all three airlines (i.e.: a more or less reliable operation without any special on-board service) I think the cheapest option TUIfly was quite alright.

Regards, Alex.


User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9589 times:

Hi Sandro, Joost and Alex,

thanks a lot for your replies as well!

Quoting DALCE (Reply 6):
'Must say it's amazing how many TR's have their origin in STR

Yes, indeed, the A.Netters fraction of STR seems to travel a lot in recent times. The number of STR-reports has really increased - especially thanks to Markus / FLIEGER67.  Smile

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 7):
a nice report about DE STR-PMI, which is one of your most frequent airline/route combinations, I think.

You are right - actually I did this route 8 times (one-way flights counted), among them were 7 legs with Condor - and 4 of them were operated by D-AICK!

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 7):
I remember when we booked that flight, we had the choice between X3, 4U and AB, who all fly this route at more or less the same time. Knowing the service on all three airlines (i.e.: a more or less reliable operation without any special on-board service) I think the cheapest option TUIfly was quite alright.

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Regards
Christoph


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3223 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 9462 times:

That was a great trip report from lovely Mallorca. I have just returned from there myself. The observatory you point out in the pictrue is actually a radar station - it is located on Mallorca's highest mountain, Puig Major (1447m). It was built by the USA initially and has been run by the Spanish armed forces on behalf of NATO when Spain joined in 1982. As a result this mountain is off-limits to climbers.

PMI is simply fascinating with a flight in or out every 3 minutes around the clock! As you would also have observed it has days when German charters predominate (eg Mon) and those when Brits are in the majority (Sat) but the low-cost airlines' massive expansion there means that now one can travel to PMI from virtually anywhere in Europe on any day of choosing.

Thanks again for this report.

TrinToCan.



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4207 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9373 times:

Christopf,

thanks for this interesting posting about your daytrip to PMI.
You arrived and disembarked on the apron by use of stairs. Did you notice many vacant jet-bridges at that time?
Because, I flew to PMI end of June, and also got use of stairs on arrival, but very strange to see many free normal gates. Probably there are not enough people to operate the bridges at PMI at high-season?
Both DE and X3 look good in my opinion. I will try-out X3 in October by myself for the first time. DE is on my wishlist, but then on the B753 some day.
The pics in your report are very good, and nice extra for you that you got the 'Cagliari' B738!

MfG,
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9326 times:

Thanks TrinToCan and Eric for your replies!

@TrinToCan: interesting additional information about the radar station on Puig Major - I didn't know that!

Quoting Trintocan (Reply 9):
PMI is simply fascinating with a flight in or out every 3 minutes around the clock! As you would also have observed it has days when German charters predominate (eg Mon) and those when Brits are in the majority (Sat) but the low-cost airlines' massive expansion there means that now one can travel to PMI from virtually anywhere in Europe on any day of choosing.

Yes, I also got the feeling that the "typical" days with flights from a special country into PMI have mixed a bit since my last visit there a few years ago. If you take "my" route STR-PMI, for example, you will find 2 daily flights on Air Berlin, 2 daily flights on TUIfly, 1-2 daily flights on Condor and 1 daily flight on Germanwings. Plus some additional "real" charter flights like Nordic Leisure or Spanair which run only weekly.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 10):
You arrived and disembarked on the apron by use of stairs. Did you notice many vacant jet-bridges at that time?
Because, I flew to PMI end of June, and also got use of stairs on arrival, but very strange to see many free normal gates. Probably there are not enough people to operate the bridges at PMI at high-season?

Yes, I did notice a few vacant jet-bridges when I arrived. I first thought maybe they were needed at a later time for other flights (when the Condor aircraft would still be on the ground). But your theory about missing people to operate the jet-bridges might be right as well.

Regards
Christoph


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3223 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9319 times:

I myself have just returned from PMI and my flights both used stairs - as did a large number of others. There were nonetheless some empty gates on both occasions so I would surmise that the airlines that do not use the gates choose not to - and perhaps pay lower landing charges in doing so. The general impression I got was that a lot of the charters did not use them. AB certainly uses them, though.

TrinToCan.



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4207 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9316 times:

Quoting Trintocan (Reply 12):
AB certainly uses them, though

I flew on AB, and we did use stairs, as well a couple of other AB flights, so I guess it depends from day to day.

Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8426 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 9110 times:
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Hi Cristoph, another enjoyable read as always, thanks for putting the report together.

Quoting Contact Air (Thread starter):
A bus took all passengers to our aircraft which would be D-AICK today. Quite a familiar aircraft to me – this was going to be my fourth flight on this bird.

- Bummer!, It's such a downer to get the same plane again, 4 times is real unluky!

RE the jetways, all my flights in and out of PMI have had jetways unless flying Air Nostrum in which case you are always bussed.

Best Wishess

Mark



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User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8968 times:

Hi Mark,

thanks for your reply!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 14):
Quoting Contact Air (Thread starter):
A bus took all passengers to our aircraft which would be D-AICK today. Quite a familiar aircraft to me – this was going to be my fourth flight on this bird.

- Bummer!, It's such a downer to get the same plane again, 4 times is real unluky!

This is indeed quite a coincidence. On the other hand, Condor's A 320-fleet isn't too big (13 aircraft), so chances to get the same aircraft several times aren't too small.

Regards
Christoph


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