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My Trip To Visit Superfly, STL-MSP-SFO With Pics  
User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6105 posts, RR: 28
Posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6294 times:
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On July 18th I flew out to SFO to hang out with Superfly. Some of you may have read my other trip reports and may be wondering why there is no DTW in this report, as that is where I live. I spend much of my time in the summer in STL hanging out with my friends and family there. So this trip I left from STL. The morning of July 18th was a great day for flying at STL. The NW DC-9-31 left on time. The plane for the flight was NW DC-9-31 N8933E, a fine product of 1967. The trip was uneventful. I was seated next to the fattest person ever on an airplane. The FA asked if I would like to move to a different seat for my comfort and I said "YES!". I had an entire exit row to myself. We arrived at MSP on time and I was able to do a bit of plane spotting at the observation deck until I had to board my flight to SFO. The plane for that leg was NW 757-351 N586NW, built in 2002 and ETOPS certified. I had not flown on an ETOPS 757 before. The plane was full, but I has a window seat so I was happy. The plane loaded on time and began to push back on time but the tow bar broke and we had to wait a bit for a new one. That was about a 15 minutes delay. Flying out to SFO was great there were few clouds so a great view was in order. There was no food on this flight, as usual, but they did offer the "white" snack box. I had one of those. The snacks were good, but I questioned the Cheese flavored products, they looked like real cheese, but were not. I ate them anyway.

MSP NW 757-300 7-18-07

After landing at SFO I went to pick up my bags. My bag was one of the last off the belt so I was beginning to think my luck of not losing bags had run out. Once I got by bag I went down to the BART station and rode that to Montgomery Street and walked a few blocks to Superfly's office. We went and drank beers at the San Francisco Brewing Company. After that we rode the MUNI Ocean Beach route back to his house. Then we went to the Beach Chalet Brewpub for burgers and more beers.

The next day I went downtown via the MUNI rail and then hopped a MUNI PCC Streetcar to the wharf. I didn't like the wharf all that much because it was a lot of the same restaurants I can eat at in other cities, including my own. I did go on a harbor tour and got some cool photos of the Golden Gate Bridge.
Golden Gate

Also While down there I toured the Jeremiah O'Brien, which was built in 1943 and is a WWII Liberty Ship. The ship is still functional and her boilers were fired and getting ready to make her way out on a special trip. After telling the engineers I had experience working on a great lakes freighter museum ship (SS Willis B. Boyer in Toledo) they gave me the good tour.
Jeremiah O'Brien
I was supposed to meet Superfly back at his office at 4pm and the Cable cars were full so I decided to walk to his office. Walking from the base of Hyde street street to 555 California is no easy task. I was able to handle it with no problem. I have climbed hills like that before, but I don't recall when. That night we went and got some more beer and ate some great Mexican food.

The next morning I got up and went to visit the Anchor Brewing Company, which makes some of my favorite beer. I have always wanted to visit there. I rode the MUNI rail line to Church and then walked a block to Market and got on the 22 Bus. The 22 took me a block from Anchor. The operator on the MUNI train gave me a transfer that lasted four hours so I was able to use that most of the day. The Anchor Brewery was great and I would recommend it to anyone who loves beer.
Bryan at Anchor Brewery
After all that it was time for lunch so I walked a few blocks to 16th and Bryant. Which was once home to Seal Stadium. I ate a a great little sports bar there. On Bryant Street there is what was once the Hamm's Brewery (1955-75), it was owned by Rainer before that. The brewery is an office building now, but if you know what to look for it was easy to spot. I also spotted another old brewery building. I think it was Acme, which closed in 1958. The streets have some new names since the address I have for the brewery so I will have to researched some more. A short walk from Hamm's is the location of the former Falstaff Brewery (1973-1975) It is a Costco now and no parts of the brewery remain. It was best known as the Burgomiester brewery and it opened in the 1880s. After all the brewery spotting I got back on the 22 bus and rose to Market where I hopped a PCC car for downtown. I am a huge fan of PCC Street cars.
PCC street car Market Street SF

That night we headed over by the baseball stadium to the 21st Amendment Brewery. The owner, Shaun O'Sullivan, is a fellow Falstaff Beer collector and subscriber to the Falstaff Shield (the quarterly publication I write). Superfly and I met up with him and some of his staff. We had a few beers and BSed for a while.
Gang from 21st Amendment brewery

The we were off on BART to the 16th and Mission. We met up with a friend of Superfly's and went out to a great Italian place. The veal was fantastic. I do not remember the name of the place. By then it was too late to take the MUNI back to the fly's so we took a taxi. The next day I got up at 10am and Superfly was snoring away so I walked the seven blacks to the beach. I had lunch at a great place called Java Beach and then walked in the surf and laid in the sand. Superfly was stirring by 2pm and we got in his 77 Lincoln Continental and drove out to Point Reyes. That is one of the most beautiful places I have ever been. It was very rural, so I loved it. If you have not been there go.
Point Reyes Lighthouse

While there I got to see the fly in action, (for what seemed like the 100th time). Superfly was turned down this time, but there is next time.
Superfly doing his thing
While we were out and about I got some other cool photos of SF from the fly's moon roof on the Lincoln.
SF

That night we just went to a local bar by fly's house and it was great. Sunday we hit some junk yards in Freemont and Hayward. I was amazed how nice the cars were there. No rust to speak of and most of the cars were better then the ten year old cars in Detroit. I saw cars that would still be on the road and I could get good money for in Detroit. I spotted a very nice, rust free, (a few dents) 76 Chevy 3/4 ton with a 4 speed and 4x4 with a 454 under the hood. That truck would sell in a snap for good bucks in the D or many other places in the rust belt. There was lots of good cars. I guess people. I guess when they can't meet smog check and/or have a major mechanical failure they scrap them. In the D as long as the frame isn't rusted in half or a major structure failure happens cars get fixed. I spotted this 72 Cadillac. It had a rust free body, which is more than I can say for the one I had spent a bunch of money on fixing up 12 years ago.
72 Cadillac at Freemont Junkyard

After hitting the wrecking yards and seeing all kinds of rust free junkers we went for a drive around SF again. There are lots of 123 Chassis Mercedes in that city (1977-85), they all make mine look like junk! There are also lots of 1950s-70s Volvos and vintage motorcycles. During this drive we went down Lombard Street in the Fly's 77 Continental. That was no easy feat. Everyone was pointing and taking photos of his car all the way down. I snapped this photo out of the moon roof.
Lombard Street
Fly showed me all around town.

My thoughts of SF are all positive. I didn't see much in the way of shocking things. It was a lot friendlier than I expected and I found it to be a n easy place to get around. I saw less homeless than I see in the D (in the summer). I only saw two people that were really odd ball. One was a guy wearing a bike helmet and a dress and another wearing a shirt for pants (I would have been more impressed if he had pants for a shirt too). All my favorite right wing talk hosts always paint SF as a bad place and full of bad people. I found that to be WRONG. My dad travels to SF for business and he agrees. SF is the way a city should be. A lot of small business and local restaurants and bars. Too many places I travel too all look the same and have the same places. Yes there are lots of unique people, but everyone seems to respect each others business and that is fine by me. I wish more people would mind their own business. I found getting around on the MUNI and BART to easy. Some locals would like the system to be better, but seeing that I live in a large city that has none, I was impressed. I did get the real SF experience because one of the MUNI trains broke down. There was a 4. earthquake while I was there, but I slept right through it. I would love to go to SF again.

Getting back to STL, on the 23rd, was an early starting day. The fly and I left his house at 5am and caught the MUNI and were downtown by 5:45am. I got on BART to SFO and by the time I got into the airport, checked in and went through security it was 7:20am. I ate breakfast (great French toast and beacon for an airport) and boarded the NW 757-351, N582NW (2002) for MSP. we left right on time and were in MSP about 10 minutes early. The flight back to STL was delayed and hour and 15 minutes, but arrived in St. Louis only 45 minutes late. The MSP-STL leg was on NW DC-9-31 N787NC, built in 1967.

This was a great trip for me. It had a lot of things I like to do in it; airplanes, breweries, cars, transit railroading, ships, drinking beer, eating, exercise, and most of all hanging out with friends. I owe Superfly a great tour around the D and a trip to the junk yard to some some really rusty cars!

[Edited 2007-07-24 07:47:47]


My mug slaketh over on Falstaff N503
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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6253 times:

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
and we got in his 77 Lincoln Continental and drove out to Point Reyes.

And where is the picture of his car? That's what we want to see!!

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
All my favorite right wing talk hosts always paint SF as a bad place and full of bad people. I found that to be WRONG.

Just goes to show you that you should never listen to right wing talk hosts.  Smile

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
Yes there are lots of unique people, but everyone seems to respect each others business and that is fine by me. I wish more people would mind their own business.

Amen to that!

Sounds like a good time was had by all, thanks for sharing, and great photos too! I was surprised you were able to walk around SF in shorts in July. I lived there for two years back in the 80's and remember July to be REALLY cold!

Aloha,
HALFA



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User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6237 times:

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
Superfly was turned down this time, but there is next time.

I thought he was smooth with the ladies?

What was his line?  Big grin

Oh yeah, nice report, and i enjoyed the shots of SFO.



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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1689 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 2 days ago) and read 6130 times:

Hi Falstaff,

A very nice and complete report of an amazing city, which is on my priority list  Smile
Did you visit Alcatraz aswell?
Nice pics you made!
Thanks for sharing your story

Brgds,
DALCE



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6021 times:

Excellent report Falstaff!  Cool
Glad to have you out and be a tour guide. Let me know next time you want to visit. Those pictures came out looking wonderful. Much better picture quality than both of my cameras.

I am glad you did just about everything you wanted to do on this trip.
Got a chance to meet one of your loyal subscribers to your publication, visited several old breweries, met brewmasters, rode a Cable Car, PCC, BART as well as MUNI LRV, diesel bus and electric bus, visited the Jeremiah O'Brien, Point Reyes National Seashore, the Pick N Pull and Pick Your Part junkyards in Hayward & Freemont and even had a chance to meet up with people more liberal than me.  Smile
You even experienced an earthquake, had a MUNI train break down on you and had tourist ask you for directions. You are officially a San Franciscan. Big grin

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
Gang from 21st Amendment brewery

Damn I look like crap in that picture.

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
While there I got to see the fly in action, (for what seemed like the 100th time). Superfly was turned down this time, but there is next time.

Well she was married and her husband was about 200 feet away taking pictures up the hill. It would not have looked good on her part giving me her number. She was very friendly though and was asking me many questions on how to operate her new Canon digital camera. At that point I wanted to know if she had any sisters that are single or planning a divorce.  devil 
She does have single sisters but they are all back in The Philippines.  Sad

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
During this drive we went down Lombard Street in the Fly's 77 Continental. That was no easy feat. Everyone was pointing and taking photos of his car all the way down. I snapped this photo out of the moon roof.

It is hilarious watching tourist watching me drive my car down Lombard Street.
It is very easy. Power steering in those cars is very soft & easy.
The funniest was that one paranoid mother that grabbed her kid as we rounded a corner and she said; "Look out!"
She seemed so scared. I was just driving through the neighborhood.  Smile


BTW, too bad you didn't get a picture of that lovely Brazilian waitress. Yum Yum!
I'll give her a buzz tomorrow,



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User currently offline9VSIO From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 717 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5835 times:
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I have to say, I fell in love with San Francisco on my first trip there....seeing ur pics makes me wanna go back!


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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6105 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5807 times:
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Quoting HALFA (Reply 1):
I was surprised you were able to walk around SF in shorts in July.

It was a bit cold at night, but not too bad. Low 70s during the day...

Quoting HALFA (Reply 1):
And where is the picture of his car? That's what we want to see!!

Superfly's bumper was damaged by his mechanic (should be fixed by 7-24) and he was self conscious about it, as would I. So I figured it was best not to show the car.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 4):
The funniest was that one paranoid mother that grabbed her kid as we rounded a corner and she said; "Look out!"
She seemed so scared. I was just driving through the neighborhood.

That was funny!

Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
Did you visit Alcatraz aswell

No. I really didn't care much about doing that. I did want to see it from the outside. Maybe next time I will go on the island and see it.

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 2):
I thought he was smooth with the ladies?

He is, but you can't win everytime!



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6105 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5610 times:
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Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
NW DC-9-31 N787NC, built in 1967.

Opps....

N787NC is a DC-9-51 and was built in 1980. I got my notes backwards when I wrote the report.



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User currently offlineBablackpilot From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5580 times:

Hey Superfly

Quoting Superfly (Reply 4):
She does have single sisters but they are all back in The Philippines.

Don't take all the asian ladies or at least send some to Oakland



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 20 hours ago) and read 5504 times:

Falstaff:
You have plenty of rear-quater shots. I really want to see the hood shot going over Filbert street, 36% grade.

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 6):
Did you visit Alcatraz aswell

No. I really didn't care much about doing that. I did want to see it from the outside. Maybe next time I will go on the island and see it.

I've lived here for 12 years and have never been to Alcatraz.

Bablackpilot, LAXspotter:
Technically I didn't hit on her. I just started a conversation and she was very friendly. Usually people of same hobbies including photography are friendly to each other (minus the A.net photography forums).  Wink


Falstaff:
I wonder how boring these people's environment is when they think it so fascinating to see me driving down the street. I was entertained by them and they were entertained by me.  Smile



Bablackpilot:
Great to see another Bay Area member. Do you plan on coming to the SFO Airliners.net meet September 1st.?



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6105 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 7 hours ago) and read 5353 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
You have plenty of rear-quater shots. I really want to see the hood shot going over Filbert street, 36% grade.

I'll get that sent out to you next week. I slept until 3pm Tuesday and then had some stuff to do. I will send you some more photos when I go back to St. Louis next week. The picture over the hood of the car is cool, but the shot I got out of the roof just doesn't do that street justice. 36% doesn't look so big in a photo facing down.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
wonder how boring these people's environment is when they think it so fascinating to see me driving down the street

You said it!

On the flight to DTW today I sat next to a man who was taking his wife to SF next month. I told him to take her to Point Reyes. He said he and his wife were big light house fans and thought that place sounded great.



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User currently offlinePerthGloryFan From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 751 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 3 hours ago) and read 5300 times:

Hey, great report - planes, beer and cars what more could I ask for?
Well, one more thing I guess, but even the great fly didn't get lucky there  Big grin

My first full day experience in SFO was spent at Fisherman's Wharf on 4th July 2000 - sure cured my jetlag!

Great photo looking down Lombard with the Coit Tower in the background. I have the reciprocal shot from the top of the Coit Tower. We caught the 39 bus from Fisherman's Wharf to the tower and back. What ride! 3-point turns to get around corners. Stopping so a wedding party could have their photos taken as they left the church (to the cheers of all on the bus of coruse). And for a dollar!

San Francisco's a great place, would love to go back - 2008 is a possibility but Oshkosh has priority of course  Wink

PGF


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5233 times:

Quoting PerthGloryFan (Reply 11):
but even the great fly didn't get lucky there

Didn't make any attempt.

Quoting PerthGloryFan (Reply 11):
San Francisco's a great place, would love to go back - 2008 is a possibility but Oshkosh has priority of course

Let me know when you visit. It would be cool to finally meet up. Qantas now flies to SFO too.  Cool



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User currently offlineLH459 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5147 times:

Glad to hear you enjoyed your visit to our fair city! As HALFA pointed out, it has been an unusually warm and fog-free July, so you got lucky! And I also echo his comment about the right-wing talk show hosts  stirthepot .

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
There was a 4. earthquake while I was there, but I slept right through it.

That quake woke me out of a sound sleep, but then again I live in Oakland, so I was much closer to the epicenter.



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6105 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5101 times:
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Quoting LH459 (Reply 13):
it has been an unusually warm and fog-free

If you guys thought that weather was warm I guess you need to visit St. Louis in July. I thought it was perfect.



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User currently offlineBablackpilot From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
Bablackpilot:
Great to see another Bay Area member. Do you plan on coming to the SFO Airliners.net meet September 1st.?

Didn't know anything about it.....but I can try and get the time off of work to go...Sounds fun....



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4987 times:

Quoting Bablackpilot (Reply 15):
Didn't know anything about it.....but I can try and get the time off of work to go...Sounds fun....

Would Anyone Be Up For An SFO Meet? (by AA787823 Jul 17 2007 in Non Aviation)



LH459:
Great to see another local.
Try to make the meet if you can.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4809 times:

Falstaff:
The bumper has been replaced. Looks like nothing ever happend.
Damn those bumpers are heavy!
150 pounds each and since there is two of them, that is 300 pounds of bumper the car has to carry. No wonder I only get 7 MPG city.  Silly


I was going through some photos I took with a lady friend a few weeks ago and the Jeremiah O'Brien was right behind us. I'll post those photos later.
Post those car shots when you can. I am sure there is a public library or college nearby with fast internet access.



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6105 posts, RR: 28
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4655 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
Damn those bumpers are heavy!

They sure are. Imagine lugging them around all day.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
No wonder I only get 7 MPG city.

Yea, that is true, but at least they can stop stuff. If you had a newer car the bumpers wouldn't bump anything, they just would fall apart. These days you only get 2.5 mph bumpers back in 77 you got 5 mph.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
Post those car shots when you can. I am sure there is a public library or college nearby with fast internet access.

I'll get those photos to you. I don't even have them in an electronic form at my home.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4583 times:
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Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
MSP NW 757-300 7-18-07

Hmm, that looks VERY familiar Big grin

From my trip to SFO in 2005:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/kaigywer/NW357/MSPF7-2.jpg



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39887 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4431 times:

Falstaff:
Thanks for the photos. Here are a few from your trip.
I really like this photo on Filbert street between Hyde & Levenworth.
This is 36% grade.
Back in 1996, David Letterman used a dump truck to unloead hundreds of watermelons down this street.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/Superfly8track/BryanVacation2007146.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/Superfly8track/BryanVacation2007105.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v416/Superfly8track/BryanVacation2007100.jpg



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6105 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4364 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
Back in 1996, David Letterman used a dump truck to unloead hundreds of watermelons down this street.

Sounds like that Cheese thing they have in the UK. I would love to go to that...

I'm off to Chicago,this afternoon, with my dad. We are driving so no airplane stories. I will be checking out some cool railroad places. I can't do any railfaning as I will be representing his company. Still cool to look around. Maybe I'll snap some cool photos with my phone! I am going to a CTA board meeting Wednesday to see if they approve a contract with my dad. It should be boring, but how many people can they ever went to one.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
I really like this photo on Filbert street between Hyde & Levenworth.
This is 36% grade.

That was a great street!  covereyes 



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