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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7818 times:
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30.07.07 IB8739 CANADAIR CRJ-200 EC-IAA 8A
1st Flight on this aircraft & 1st CRJ-200 Flight
SCH DEP 14:00 SCH ARR 14:45
ACT DEP 13:47 ACT ARR 14:22


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After a good few days with family, sleeping, eating and drinking it was time to head home. We got to the airport, returned the rental car, it had been a new Open Corsa, (not to keen on it myself) and headed for check-in.

The Economy check-in counters were quite busy, 3 counters were open, so it was straight to the Business Class counter, no queue there, within a few moments we were relieved of the bags and left with our boarding passes for today’s 2 sectors to get home.

Since we had plenty of time to kill, and not recalling IB having a lounge in the domestic departure area, we headed outside to see if I could make any planes and catch a little more sun.

After a while we headed back into the terminal to find lunch, the IB lounge once in BCN will only have crisps, peanuts etc, the London flight is a BOB. I tend to avoid buying sandwiches on flights, quite often they are totally dry and tasteless – hence the desire to find something to snack on before getting home tonight. The terminal has a pretty decent food place, a decent selection of sandwiches and baguettes along with cakes and the like, we had a San Miguel each and shared a large baguette which contained some local meats, very nice indeed!

Whilst eating our lunch, I noted the flight board indicated 3 flights to BCN in less than a half hour slot (the flight before us was something daft like 10 minutes ahead of ours) all operated by Air Nostrum. I understand IB have dropped mainline aircraft on this route, so ensure there are sufficient seat’s it appears Air Nostrum have had to add additional flight’s. Seems a bit daft to me, though I’m not complaining as it as resulted in my first CRJ-200 flight.

Boarding of our flight was called at 13:30, security was a breeze with no queue at all. As soon as we got through we joined the line for our flight, and then onto the bus for the drive out to the plane. When the doors of the bus closed, I had counted 32 passengers including us.

I had been looking forward to this flight for a while, finally, my first CRJ-200 flight, having flown the –700 & -900 I knew what the cabin would be like, it was the whole window issue, ie they are lower in the CRJ100/200 series, that I wanted to experience and see how annoying they could be.

As per the Dash-8 flight a few days previously, we held back to snap a few ground shots prior to boarding. A friendly FA greeted us as we entered the cabin, as per the Dash 8, the cabin is fitted with nice dark blue leather seats, the interior looked pretty well maintained, I have come to expect that from Air Nostrum.

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Our seats were in row 8, which turned out to be an emergency exit row, the extra leg room being much appreciated, even if today’s flight was just a short one.

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The main door closed pretty much after we got on, push back or rather taxi forward took place at 13:47, a brisk taxi out to the runway end and a blast down the runway, wheels were up at 13:54. As usual the safety brief had been pretty much uninteligable, but hey, I fly a lot, know what to do and I’m next to a exit, what do I care!?

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The exterior of my window was quite scratched, when looking through at the wrong angle, the views were pretty poor – see the picture below.

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Shortly after takeoff the 2 FA’s sprung to life, out came the cart with drinks & peanuts. Unlike the previous flight the only offerings were various juices and water, I’d quite fancied a beer but alas it was not to be so I settled for an glass of OJ, again served in a real glass.

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Before I knew it, the nose pointed down as we began our descent into BCN, as usual we came in over the water, wheels touching down at 14:22, arriving over 20 minutes early, the flight time had been a mere 28 minutes from wheels up to down.

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After a taxi to the remote ramp, a bus took us to the main terminal, the first stop was for Barcelona only, the next stop for all connecting flights. I should point out that almost all of the bus tried to get off at the first stop, it had not been made clear this was Barcelona only, a degree of shouting from the driver ensured we all understood who should get off here, the majority of us got back on the bus for the connections stop.

Once in the terminal, Nicole left me with the bags by a window to watch planes whilst she checked out the duty free shops, I made 14 new ones before Nic returned and we headed to the IB lounge for a few beers and snacks before the next flight.

The BCN lounge is ok, fine for resting between flights but lacks the snacks/nibbles that BA provide in their Terraces lounges.

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30.07.07 IB4176 A320-214 EC-JSK 12E
1st Flight on this aircraft & 66th A320 Flight
SCH DEP 16:40 SCH ARR 17:55
ACT DEP 16:56 ACT ARR 18:00


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Boarding for this flight took place from Gate 46 (if I recall correctly) this being a lower level bussing departure gate. I’ve not been bussed to a plane here for a LHR flight before so this was something new for me. Given the queue that was forming at the gate it was clear this was a pretty full flight, indeed once aboard I could not sight a single empty seat.

Anyway, got in line, boarding passes checked then passports were checked outside the door and then we were free to get onto the bus. The bus was quite full, we were one the last bus to the plane.

A nice drive past the ramp took us out to the plane. The CRJ we had arrived on was still on the ground being loaded for it’s next flight.

Again we hung back to allow a few more ramp/plane shots before boarding.

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Once aboard Nic let me have her seat (12F) so I could have my much desired window and again, an exit row, thanks IB  Smile

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When ever we book trips, I always put our BA Exec Card details in the booking, I have Silver card, Nic a Blue card, whenever the seating is confirmed or Boarding Passes issued, Nic gets allocated the window and me the middle or isle seat. I find this odd as my Exec profile shows my preference as a window seat, as does Nicole’s, however I would have assumed my Silver Card status would take priority over her Blue Card seating request??

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Doors were closed and we taxied of the stand at 16:56. Despite a lengthy taxi past the current terminal and the new terminal we managed to get wheels up at 17:12, we were number 1 for take-off when we arrived at the runway.

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The interior of this plane was kitted out in IB’s new slimline seats in grey leather, whilst nice enough, I don’t like the seat back as it cannot hold thick paperback’s let alone a hardback book, I’d not want a long full flight as I’d be pushed on where to keep my bits, camera, magazines, books etc.

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The in-flight BOB started, Nic had a Perrier and I chose Red Wine and some Pringles, I must admit I quite fancied a sandwich, the menu had a nice sounding ‘special’, however I thought it was pretty steep at 8 Euros and besides, it would most likely have been dry and tasteless.

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The rest of the flight was uneventful though it was quite noisy from people chatting/laughing etc. The people in the row behind us were quite annoying, Nic got banged on the head twice for some unknown reason and the girl behind kept peering through the gap in the seats to see what we were doing, quite annoying!

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Descent started and we headed in over London on approach for 27R, the weather was quite good so some nice views were to be had.

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Wheels touched down at 18:00 on the dot, with EC-JSK arriving at the gate some 13 minutes later, longer than it should have been but we had to wait for a LH 320 to taxi out from pushback. During taxi I noted 2 new planes for my log, EI-DVF & SU-GCK.

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Once off the plane it’s a fair walk to passport control and upon arrival there was a fair queue there, however it didn’t take to long, by the time we arrived at the baggage carousel the luggage was already coming off the plane, all this in say 15-20 minutes, if that. This is the second time we have flown into T2 in the last year, on both occasions the baggage has arrived really quickly, the total opposite to T1 arrivals, the bag’s take forever to arrive there! Whoever looks after T2 baggage arrivals is doing an excellent job, send them to T1, they need to help our there!!

Summary:

Air Nostrum and Iberia have done just fine here, Air Nostrum being the better of the 2 as they actually have onboard service include, ok it may just be a drink and peanuts but it is something and the drink is in a real glass, I love that!

Iberia were fine, you know what you get so that’s fine, but it is a shame nothing is free now, that said, it is the same on all the major Spanish carriers nowdays.

Thanks for reading, hope you enjoyed our trip.

Best Wishes

Mark


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User currently offlineDFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7779 times:

What a great, thorough report! Great job. Loved all the descriptions of the food, the seats, the windows, and I loved all the pictures.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
it was the whole window issue, ie they are lower in the CRJ100/200 series, that I wanted to experience and see how annoying they could be.

Yes, the CRJ 100/200 is the one airplane in civil aviation that I try to avoid. I really don't like flying on them. The windows are low because they saved money by not having to certify a new fuselage. They used the Challenger 601 fuselage and raised the floor to make the cabin wider, thus lowering the windows.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The BCN lounge is ok, fine for resting between flights but lacks the snacks/nibbles that BA provide in their Terraces lounges.

It looks like a nice lounge. I enjoy reading about the lounges too, so I'm glad you added that in.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The interior of this plane was kitted out in IB’s new slimline seats in grey leather, whilst nice enough, I don’t like the seat back as it cannot hold thick paperback’s let alone a hardback book, I’d not want a long full flight as I’d be pushed on where to keep my bits, camera, magazines, books etc.

Looking at the condition of the safety card, it looks like people try to cram suitcases in there! That's really not enough room. I haven't been on an aircraft with that kind of seat yet. The last A320 I was on was a BA A321, which had normal pockets. I guess it's an Iberia thing?

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The in-flight BOB started, Nic had a Perrier and I chose Red Wine and some Pringles, I must admit I quite fancied a sandwich, the menu had a nice sounding ‘special’, however I thought it was pretty steep at 8 Euros and besides, it would most likely have been dry and tasteless.

I'm a sucker for being a frequent buy-on-board customer. Yes, I know, they charge too much and it isn't all that good. My recent sandwiches on AA have been good quality, though maybe a little dry. If they aren't too dry then they would be soggy, I imagine. So you should have taken BA BCN-LHR and had an All Day Deli!

Thanks for the great report! Enjoyed it!


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7726 times:

Thanks BA319-131 for such a great report. I enjoyed those pictures too. BCN certainly has a lot of planes parked remotely these days - I flew there in 2005 and only remember seeing turboprops parking at remote stands along with a few IB domestics but now many planes are parked remotely in all the recent photos I have seen of BCN on this website. That is quite interesting indeed. The IB lounge in BCN looks great too.

So, you had a nosy Parker neighbour on your flight to LHR! What was her problem?

So IB is still at T2 at LHR, as I recall them in 2005 - somehow Wikipedia lists them as being at T4. Buy on board food is a fact of life even on major flag carriers like IB - it's a bit of a pity that everybody is trying to emulate the low-fares carriers rather than maintain distinctive edges in sophistication but ultimately it is all about profits.

Thanks for this one again.

TrinToCan.

ps I would take it that your car was an Opel Corsa. I drove one of those in Ibiza last year - it was decent enough.



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User currently offlineN751PR From Japan, joined May 2002, 1249 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7650 times:

Another great, detailed report, BA319-131!  bigthumbsup  Do you happen to have more pics of the BCN lounge by any chance? Big grin


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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5170 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7491 times:

Hello, Mark,
great report and pics, once again, to complete your Menorca series.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
1st Flight on this aircraft & 1st CRJ-200 Flight

Congrats, always nice to "explore" a new type!.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
not been bussed to a plane here for a LHR flight before so this was something new for me.

I prefer nowadays, as far as the wheather is good, these free ramp tours.
So close to the planes, nice pix, good feeling!.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
whenever the seating is confirmed or Boarding Passes issued, Nic gets allocated the window and me the middle or

So, what do you think when I´am on travel with my son?.
I hold LH´s biz Miles and More card, my son is member of JetFriends, a specially for kids designed program
from LH, M&M without expire dates included.
Both profiles window preference, no chance for me, my son had always the window first.
 Wink

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineDFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7387 times:

I forgot to comment on a couple things:

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Shortly after takeoff the 2 FA’s sprung to life,

That's impressive. 2 FAs on a CRJ. Is that common in Europe? I've only flown regionals in the USA and there's only one on 50 seaters here (even XJet).

Also...good job getting great pictures out of the impossible CRJ windows!


User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7227 times:

Hi Mark,

nice to read about your return flight as well. Great series of pictures - I liked them a lot.

The different service concepts of IB and Air Nostrum are a bit strange from my point of view: You booked both flights via IB, but on the short sector you receive full service for free while on the longer sector it's buy on board. The ordinary passenger wouldn't understand that, I guess.

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 5):
That's impressive. 2 FAs on a CRJ. Is that common in Europe? I've only flown regionals in the USA and there's only one on 50 seaters here (even XJet).

Both is possible in Europe. Lufthansa CityLine has 2 FA's on the CRJ 100/200, while Eurowings has only 1 (at least on my last EW-flight in 2006).

Regards
Chris


User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7212 times:

Nice report and pics - once again, Air Nostrum offered a high-quality product, which is good to read. It's really amazing to see that the Regional partner offers a far superiour service than the mainline carrier, and as pointed out by Contact Air: The normal passengers won't understand that, as he booked both flights under the IB code.

Aaah, the Opel Corsa, a great German car - though most of them are made in Spain... I drive an Opel Corsa myself, however I drive the B-Model, whereas I guess you had the D-Model.

Time to add the Dash 8 and CRJ to your signature - or have you flown on more aircraft types than the signature field allows Big grin

Regards, Alex.


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 7125 times:
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Thanks for all the read's and replies  Smile

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 1):
What a great, thorough report! Great job. Loved all the descriptions of the food, the seats, the windows, and I loved all the pictures.

- Thanks for your comments, much appreciated.

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 1):
Yes, the CRJ 100/200 is the one airplane in civil aviation that I try to avoid. I really don't like flying on them. The windows are low because they saved money by not having to certify a new fuselage. They used the Challenger 601 fuselage and raised the floor to make the cabin wider, thus lowering the windows.

- Despite the low windows, I quite enjoyed the trip, though I did have extra legroom. I need a longer segment to get a real feel for travelling on it.

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 1):
you should have taken BA BCN-LHR and had an All Day Deli!

- I know, however the booking engine only allowed IB returns despite outbound BA flights!!??

Quoting Trintocan (Reply 2):
So, you had a nosy Parker neighbour on your flight to LHR! What was her problem?

- Not sure, was quite annoying though, perhaps she wanted to read my book as she finished hers?  Smile

Quoting N751PR (Reply 3):
Do you happen to have more pics of the BCN lounge by any chance?

- Sorry no, will do more lounge shots in future.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
Congrats, always nice to "explore" a new type!.

- Oh yes  Smile - Managed 2 this year, CR9 & CR2  Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
I prefer nowadays, as far as the wheather is good, these free ramp tours.
So close to the planes, nice pix, good feeling!.

- Agreed for warm countries, not so keen in the wet though!!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
So, what do you think when I´am on travel with my son?.

- Ahhh, forgot about that  Smile

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 5):
That's impressive. 2 FAs on a CRJ. Is that common in Europe? I've only flown regionals in the USA and there's only one on 50 seaters here (even XJet).

- We also had 2 on the Dash 8-300 flight.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 6):
nice to read about your return flight as well. Great series of pictures - I liked them a lot.

- Thanks Chris.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 6):
The different service concepts of IB and Air Nostrum are a bit strange from my point of view: You booked both flights via IB, but on the short sector you receive full service for free while on the longer sector it's buy on board. The ordinary passenger wouldn't understand that, I guess.

- Agreed.

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 7):
Aaah, the Opel Corsa, a great German car - though most of them are made in Spain... I drive an Opel Corsa myself, however I drive the B-Model, whereas I guess you had the D-Model.

- ? Sorry Alex, you've lost me, B model vs D model?

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 7):
Time to add the Dash 8 and CRJ to your signature - or have you flown on more aircraft types than the signature field allows

- The latter, run out of space, actually ran out ages ago  Sad

Best Wishes

Mark



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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week ago) and read 7081 times:

Hi again Mark,

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
run out of space, actually ran out ages ago

Quite a collection of different aircraft types! At least you had the space to add the last aircraft type to your list - flying on the Mercure, how cool is that?!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
Sorry Alex, you've lost me, B model vs D model?

Not sure if Vauxhall names in the UK are the same - here in Germany the "Corsa B" is the one developed in 1993, the "Corsa D" the newest series, since 2007:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_Corsa

Have a nice weekend everybody, Alex.


User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2775 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week ago) and read 7078 times:

Nice report!

And what a coincidence! I flew EC-JSK on the LHR-BCN route a day later! no comments on IB, we were meant to arrive at terminal B in BCN, we ended up parking on A, so we had to "leave" the terminal, clear securtiy again in B and collect our bags!

Should give Air Nostrum a try, probably on my upcoming VLC trip.

MIAspotter.



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6947 times:
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Quoting Ndebele (Reply 9):
flying on the Mercure, how cool is that?!

- This was just a lucky flight, I had no say on the travel bookings, it just happened to be a Mercure! - Just wish I'd taken some pictures.

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 9):
Not sure if Vauxhall names in the UK are the same - here in Germany the "Corsa B" is the one developed in 1993, the "Corsa D" the newest series, since 2007:

- Ah, I understand, yes this would be a 'D' model. The 'A' pillars, ie the pillars supporting the windscreen are very thick and can cause some large blind spots + the car was not that quick, pretty dull really, give me a Fiesta any day.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 10):
what a coincidence! I flew EC-JSK on the LHR-BCN route a day later!

- Amazing, given the time we arrived, she would have flown back to BCN that night, then it appers back again at least once? - what flight were you on?

Rgds

Mark



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User currently offlineMIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2775 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6858 times:

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 11):
- Amazing, given the time we arrived, she would have flown back to BCN that night, then it appers back again at least once? - what flight were you on?

IB4181 Departing LHR at 17:40

So on the day you flew, EC-JSK should have operated IB4189 to BCN departing at 19:10

MIAspotter



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6793 times:
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Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 12):
IB4181 Departing LHR at 17:40

So on the day you flew, EC-JSK should have operated IB4189 to BCN departing at 19:10

MIAspotter

Interesting indeed!!

Must be good to know I'd checked the plane out for you  Smile

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6623 times:
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Hi BA319-131,

do you know the name of the girl (and telephone number) of the girl boarding the EC-IAA (first photo)?  Big grin  Big grin

Regards,

Gerard



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Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 14):
do you know the name of the girl (and telephone number) of the girl boarding the EC-IAA (first photo)?

Sorry no, but I think I see why you'd like to know  Smile

Rgds

Mark



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