FLIEGER67 From Turkey, joined Sep 2003, 4387 posts, RR: 57 Posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 4372 times:
U-434: How to enter a russian submarine or HAM ex FKB
Once again, hello, dear readers.
I will continue my "summer series" with an enjoyable trip to HAM.
Have you ever been inside one of the largest non-nuclear russian submarines, follow me!.
Tuesday, 31.07.2007
FKB (Karlsruhe-Baden-Baden) - HAM (Hamburg-Fuhlsbüttel)
Duration: 1 hour
AB 6681 (Air Berlin) operated by Germania F-100 D-AGPO
Scheduled: 08.25 // 09.40
Actual: 08.25 // 09.25
Gate: 5 Seat: 19C
Load factor: Around 80%
Fare: 53,75 EUR per pax per leg
History:
18.04.1991: Delivered to USAir
27.02.1997: Further to US Airways
18.06.2004: In service with Germania
31.03.2006: Further to DI
15.12.2006: Painted in AB colours
Flight no. 7 on the F 100 and the second on this machine
This trip will start with the usual question: Is Online-check-in available?.
Not on AB services from FKB. Why ?. I prefer online seat selection, no hurry to secure good seats.
One hour to go by car , so we started at around 6.30 am, no queues on the motorway and arrival at around 7.30 am.
FKB has only limited activities, today one 4R holiday service earlier, followed by two AB services to TXL and HAM.
So, no queues expected, a nice modern airport with short and fast ways.
Check-in was quickly done, seats A and C secured as always when travelling on the F100 with the 2/3 seating.
I was a bit surprised about the F100, the systems show a 733 for this flight, but really ok for me!.
Also no time to wait at security, some shopping, the shop there is less expensive in comparison to other airports.
There is a nice outdoor area after security with an partly apron view.
Our plane arrived early from HAM shortly followed by the 733 from TXL.
Bus boarding as announced, that means not more than 20 minutes from arrival at the parking lot to boarding the plane, not bad from my point of view.
What a nice morning at FKB:
The company 733 to TXL:
Mini-Flieger and D-AGPO:
Welcomed by two friendly female FA´s. The plane fitted with dark grey leather seats, clean. Free magazines available during boarding.
Also a real funny und friendly welcome from the Captain, a experienced one today!. Both, Captain and FO from germany.
If you ever been to HAM, than you know that guys on the harbour cruise ships, that means they tell always never true, impossible stories.
"Moin, moin, on your AB service to HAM. We will bring you fast and sure to HAM, but it is your own decision to go today, don´t call us later when we arrived".
He means the wheather, sunny and warm in southern germany, windy and wet in the northern part.
A short taxi and what I´ve called a rolling take-off from runway 21 in direction HAM via FRA and HAJ.
A free croissant and water/coffee/tea on offer.
High clouds during cruiseflight.
Engine close-up:
And again, traffic included:
Interesting was the approach into HAM, a LH 737 was beneath us the last ten minutes and lined in for finals directly ahead to us.
Touch down 15 minutes ahead to schedule on runway 23, also not bad.
An apron stand during a rain shower, now thats not good, but the captain warned us earlier.
Also a nice gesture was the FO and pilot flying himself, who delivered us the AB chocolate heart at the door and wished us a nice day.
From my personal point of view a real familiar flying experience today on Germania.
Bye-bye, D-AGPO:
No time to wait for the bags and up by public transport to the city.
We stayed at the Motel One Altona, a accomodation with a perfect price/earning ratio.
Lobby:
Some pix from our activities there, including the famous U434 guided tour inside one of the largest ever-built russian non-nuclear submarines.
"Speicherstadt"-traffic:
MS Deutschland at the cruise terminal:
Now, that´s U434:
Ready to go?:
A large one:
Our guide:
Narrow ways:
Hatch:
Command deck:
Helmsman´s place:
Welcome to Russia:
One more:
Me, after the submarine experience:
An elevator for cars?:
Sure, the old tunnel under the "Elbe":
Wednesday, 01.08.2007
HAM (Hamburg-Fuhlsbüttel) - FKB (Karlsruhe-Baden-Baden)
Duration: 1 hour
AB 6686 (Air Berlin) operated by Germania F-100 D-AGPL
Scheduled: 18.00 // 19.15
Actual: 18.05 // 19.05
Gate: C13 Seat: 18C
Load factor: Near 100 %
History:
07.11.1990: Delivered to US Air
27.02.1997: Further to US Airways
19.08.2003: In service with Germania
01.01.2006: Further to DI
01.02.2007: Repainted in AB colours
Flight no. 8 on the F-100 and the first on this machine
Time to return to HAM airport at around 3.00 pm, again by the fast and effective public transport system.
No time to wait at the AB counters, the agent was surprised when I asked about the operating plane and further immediatelly about seats 18 A and C.
He means that I know the planes and seats better than he knows it!.
Some spotting from the terrace at HAM, a shame that they built a higher fence there.
Quick security, not that much action this time at HAM.
Our machine arrived from NUE, I hoped for a new adittion to my log and so it was.
D-AGPL, just arrived from NUE:
Bus boarding once again at around 5.40 pm. Two female FA´s on this service.
Boarding D-AGPL:
A short welcome from the flightdeck during boarding. Departure from runway 23 via HAJ to FKB.
More and detailed informations from the FO during cruiseflight. Another german cockpit crew on this service.
The machine fitted with dark, grey leather seats, good legroom. Again free magazines, snacks and beverages.
XFW:
HAJ:
Good wheather along the whole route, touchdown ten minutes early on FKB´s runway 21.
Finally arrived at FKB:
Bus deboarding, not that personal service like on the flight yesterday, but not unfriendly at all.
Quick bags and on the way back home.
So, time for my personal opinion.
FKB is a nice airport to fly from, HAM also not a bad place, spacious and modern.
The outbound service on AB/Germania was real special, the inbound more standard but not bad at all.
HAM itself is an interesting and recommendable city with lots of things to do there.
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8263 posts, RR: 56 Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4311 times:
Hi Marcus,
Another great TR, many thanks.
I've not been down in a sub before, did HMS Belfast which is on the Thames though, that is quite interesting, that said you've most likely done that already!
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): Flight no. 7 on the F 100 and the second on this machine
Airbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4015 posts, RR: 52 Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4264 times:
Markus, good to see you scored another 'new' F100 to your log! Well done, because it's rather difficult when you fly as often like you do I really enjoyed the views of the City, and the U-boat. Not really my thing actually, but as long as you guys enjoyed it, then it's great!
btw, is this your first personal appearance on airliners.net in a picture?
We are actually thinking to visit either MUC or HAM for some end-of-year shopping before X-mas this year. LH offers good fares from AMS. But I prefer MUC, just to catch the CR9 We'll see...
Cheers,
Eric
"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24894 posts, RR: 60 Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4224 times:
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3): Sure, a remarkable experience, nothing for people in need for a lot of air around.
Yes that would be my problem, in such a small space I would panic I think. It made me un easy looking at the photos at first. So nice that you went inside and got photos to show me.
Infodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1241 posts, RR: 34 Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3974 times:
Hi Markus,
I agree, very impressive pics of the sub - but I wouldn't have fancied going inside it. Also liked the shot of the tunnel under the Elbe, very effective.
Mini-Flieger must be top of the class when it comes to Geography and History, all the exciting trips he goes on!
Greetings
Infodesk
"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
Buck3y3nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 864 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3887 times:
Great report Markus...
enjoyed the pictures of the submarine...
thanks for sharing...
DALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1581 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3803 times:
Hi Markus,
Another great report about an interesting Trip to HAM. I really enjoyed the U-boat pics! Made me remind to the one time I was inside a nuclear submarine in NYC, next to the USS Intrepid Museum.
Great pictures as usual!
thx
Joost
flown on : F50,F70,CR1,CR2,CR9,E75,143,AR8,AR1,733,735,736,73G,738,753,744,319,320,321,AB6. Next flights AMS-ZRH-AMS on
RJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4107 posts, RR: 33 Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3631 times:
Hello Markus
Thanks for another interesting report with the usual nice assortiment of pictures. Hamburg is really an interesting city.
Congratulations also for finally entering Russian territory!
Nickbbu From Romania, joined Jan 2007, 185 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 3465 times:
Hi Markus,
I took me a while to see this trip report... But I finally spotted it!
Nice and interesting tour of the U-boat.
I wish I should've made some time in New York, to pay a visit at the USS Intrepid Museum, too see a sub too. Maybe next time...
Congratulations for the report and also for taking the courage to post a picture with you!
BPS3458 From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 521 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3456 times:
Hi Markus,
another great report. Seeing the pictures of the Speicherstadt almost made me home sick and I can't wait to visit my relatives in Hamburg in October. My office used to be right outside of the Speicherstadt and our car park was within the Speicherstadt. Did you have a chance to visit the large model train set-up in one of the warehouses ?
Aleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3229 posts, RR: 34 Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3455 times:
Hi Markus!
Thanks for another great trip report. At first, I didn't want to open it, because I don't like submarines at all, but had to because something was telling me that another treat was hiding inside and there certainly was some. I saw Air Berlin F-100s last year in Budapest and they really look nice in that livery.
Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed your trip and from the pics it's obvious that Mini Flieger was really impressed with Russian submarine.
So, what's next?
Alex
PS I am almost 90% sure that we have same jeans. If you mention the name of Tom Tailor I will know for sure
FLIEGER67 From Turkey, joined Sep 2003, 4387 posts, RR: 57 Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3386 times:
Hello, again and thanx all for your replys.
Nick:
Quoting Nickbbu (Reply 16): New York, to pay a visit at the USS Intrepid Museum
Now on my to do list!.
Quoting Nickbbu (Reply 16): courage to post a picture with you!
No problem, after surviving the sub, it was time to do it!.
Peter:
It seems it´s immediate time for a trip westbound to visit Hamburg.
Quoting BPS3458 (Reply 17): chance to visit the large model train set-up in one of the warehouses
HAM with my son and without the "Miniatur-Wunderland", no way!
"Verkehrsflughafen" on short finals, a must when you visit HAM and you have a special interest in such things!.
Aleksandar
Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 18): Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed your trip and from the pics it's obvious that Mini Flieger was really impressed with Russian submarine.
Sure, he was.
Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 18): If you mention the name of Tom Tailor I will know for sure
I know "Tom Tailor", for sure, but this one was sold with a "Zara" label, nevertheless you know, "Made in Turkey", maybe at the same factory!
PlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6190 posts, RR: 79 Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 13 hours ago) and read 3164 times:
Servus Markus,
I finally had a closer look at your well-documented HAM flights and the "sub experience". Since I'm interested in submarines in general, I'll try to visit that ship as well on my next HAM trip.
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3): I noticed it at home, but even more special than an A320!.
Oh, please - I can tell you what "plane unlucky" means. That's when you fly NUE-VIE-NUE in June 2006 on OE-LEE and D-ABAE (delayed by some six hours) and repeat the same trip in August 2007, again ending up on OE-LEE and D-ABAE...
FLIEGER67 From Turkey, joined Sep 2003, 4387 posts, RR: 57 Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 11 hours ago) and read 3146 times:
Servus, PH,
thanx for your reply.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23): I'll try to visit that ship as well on my next HAM trip.
Just do it, highly recommendable.
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23): and repeat the same trip in August 2007, again ending up
Worst case, same route, same planes!.
Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)
Next: Exploring Istanbul both ways!.
25 Contact Air: Hi Markus, another interesting report of your summer series - thanks for sharing! So this time it was a submarine - next time it was the train at the
26 FLIEGER67: Hello, Christoph, thanx for your reply. Best regards, Markus (FLIEGER67)