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Across The "Oresund" Or Kopenhagen Ex STR  
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5163 posts, RR: 55
Posted (7 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3821 times:

Across the "Oresund" or Kopenhagen ex STR


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Hello, dear readers,
now it´s time for the next summer series story.
We want to ride by train, the Oresundbridge, one of the worlds largest bridges, from Denmark
to Sweden.
Let´s go.



Tuesday, 07.08.2007
STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen) - CPH (Kopenhagen-Kastrup)
Duration: 1 hour 35 minutes
SK 668 operated by SAS Dash 8-400 LN-RDE
Scheduled: 07.05 // 08.50
Actual: 07.15 // 08.50
Gate: 162 Seat: 18D
Load factor: 100 %
Fare: 60,12 EUR per pax per leg

History:
28.06.2000: Delivered to SK

Flight no. 3 on the DHC 8-400 and the second on this machine.


Another early morning departure from STR. This time the SK website told me that online check-in was not possible
for me and my sons reservation. So I decided to arrive a bit earlier, around 6 am.
I was really shocked when reached T1. There is some construction work, the LH counters changed to the other side of the middle row.
A long queue around the corner in direction T0 for eco check-in, weird.
LH opened a FF-program for kids, called JetFriends, that´s Miles-and-More with some special kids features.
One thing is a necklace to carry the card. We reached the end of the queue when a friendly LH female saw my sons card and asked us
where we want to go today. I answered CPH and told her that online check-in was not possible. She send us to the biz counters
and only minutes later another friendly female checked us in and send our bags on the way to CPH. Good job, LH ladies.
This time queues at T1 security, but not at T3, passed and returned to T1 where we arrived at our gate around 06.30 am, 15 minutes prior to
scheduled boarding.
162 was at T1 on the ground floor where usually the regional planes are handled by bus. The bus arrived and another free ramp tour started.

Early morning at STR:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07001.jpg

The nose...:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07006.jpg

...and the engine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07007.jpg

When we arrived at the plane I thought about that reg sounds familiar. So it was, I had another flight on the same route on this machine last year.
Two male FA´s, not to friendly this morning.
The plane fitted with dark, blue leather seats, the cabin not in the best conditions.
A short welcome from the flightdeck, the crew was scandinavian.
Interesting was what follows: "Pax arrived from Milan had to go out and identify their bags". A joke or what else, it´s 07.15 am and there was
for sure no arrival from Milan earlier this morning. I do not follow the complete action, but we had to wait for some minutes and I don´t saw
a passenger leaving the plane. It seems that there was a unidentified bag from Milan on the plane.
Departure from runway 25. No info about the route. Flightlevel 24.000 feet.

Inflight:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07008.jpg

Nothing for free in Eco on SK.
One more short information about wheather at CPH during approach.
Touchdown ontime on CPH´s runway 04L . Parked at the apron.

Perfect wheather conditions at CPH:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07011.jpg

On the apron:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07012.jpg

Close-up:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07013.jpg

We entered a bus, but it seems it was on strike today, the driver started several attempts but it was impossible to close the doors.
After around ten more minutes on the apron another bus arrived and delivered us to the terminal. .
Nearly no time to wait for the bags and on the way by train to Central and further to the hotel around the corner, The square,
a good but overprized city accomodation.
Some pix for the interested:

Oresundstog:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07014.jpg

A view from the bridge again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07016.jpg

Inside Tycho Brahe's Planetarium:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07026.jpg

City Hall:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07031.jpg

Do you know Jules Verne´s Journey to the middle of the earth?:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07036.jpg

The outside stairs are the place to check out if you´re free of
dizziness:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07035.jpg

View from the top of the stairs, Oresundbridge in the far distance:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07038.jpg




Wednesday, 08.08.2007
CPH (Kopenhagen-Kastrup) - STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen)
Duration: 1 hour, 20 minutes
SK 655 operated by SAS MD-82 OY-KHE
Scheduled: 15.15 // 16.45
Actual: 15.35 // 16.55
Gate: A23 Seat: 33C
Load factor: Around 90 %

History:
21.04.1988: Delivered to SK
30.04.1993: Leased out to Reno Air
13.07.1998: Back to SK

Flight no.6 on the MD-82 and the first on this machine.


Time to go at around 11.30 am, by train return to the airport.
Also vacation time at CPH.
A long queue at the eco desks, but it moves fast forward, the atmosphere was relaxed, so no problem to wait this 15 minutes till we checked
in our bags by a friendly older female agent.
For the first time ever I had to leave my Rimowa-Alu-case
at the special-luggage-desk. The agent told me that
scanning was not possible, so it will be manually
checked!.
No time to wait at security and in the gate area early enough for our scheduled boarding.
It was a long way to go from the main building to our gate A23, walking along the parked planes to watch out for our MD.

Approaching OY-KHE:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07040.jpg

Nice colours:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07042.jpg

Our neighbour:
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There was one painted in Star Alliance colours and it seems that will be our machine, not bad.
Boarding as announced during a jetbridge.
The crew was oldfashioned, like the plane. Three females in their fifties. Dont get me wrong, these ladies doing a real good job today,
real friendly and attentive.
Row 33, that means after a small compartment with the rear galley, three rows only with limited views directly beneath the engine. Legroom was firstclass,
old fashioned, not really clean fabric seats. And the noise, unbelievable, I like it on most of my flights to sit near the engine, but this time.
We´re pushed-back, nothing´s going on, the captain announced problems with disconnecting the pushback truck, more than ten minutes on the ground
with an incredible engine noise.
Finally it was ok, departure from 04R, no time to wait there.
The flightdeck crew was from Scandinavia, the captain was four times on the sepakers, very detailed informations about all around the flight
in danish, english and german.
A real good job.
The route was above HAJ, flightlevel 33.000 feet.

That´s what I call near the engine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07050.jpg

Touchdown on STR´s runway 25 around ten minutes late.
Once again at STR, finger-deboarding, quick bags and after some eating and spotting at BK in T1 we´re on the way back home.

Time for my opinion.
The ride above the Oresund is real interesting.
STR goes down in my personal rating during these construction times, hope that will be better again.
CPH, large and spacious, friendly employees there, a nice airport from my point of view.
SK: Fare acceptable, flights nearly ontime, interesting equipment, nothing special on the outbound, but for sure the best flightdeck/cabin crew
during my latest travels on the inbound.
My son was allowed to visit the flightdeck at STR and we talked some minutes with the guys in front.

Flightdeck visit:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07052.jpg

View from BK T1:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/CPH07/CPH07055.jpg

Real good job there on SK.

Comments welcome,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

If anyone wants to follow the full summer series:

1.) Into the flood, or not?: BHX ex FRA
Into The Flood, Or Not?: BHX Ex FRA (by FLIEGER67 Aug 13 2007 in Trip Reports)

2.)U-434: How to enter a russian submarine HAM ex FKB
U-434:How To Enter A Russian Submarine HAM Ex FKB (by FLIEGER67 Aug 19 2007 in Trip Reports)

3.)"Le Grande Arche" or Paris-Orly ex STR
"Le Grand Arche" Or Paris-Orly Ex STR (by FLIEGER67 Aug 25 2007 in Trip Reports)

4.)Your actual read

Coming up soon:

5.)The Hungarian Air Show at Kecskemet ex BSL on LX

6.)The "Duxford" experience ex FKB

On Schedule:

7.)BSL-NCE-BSL on LX


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User currently offlineRineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3805 times:

Excellent TR as per usual.

I was on a similar ride pictured in the first photo at the Prater in Vienna; talk about getting some great views of a city!

Thanks!


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5163 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3799 times:

Hi, Rineanna,
thanx for your reply.

Quoting Rineanna (Reply 1):
I was on a similar ride pictured in the first photo at the Prater in Vienna; talk about getting some great views of a city!

That was in Tivoli, my son want´s to do the ride, but from my point of view it was to expensive to pay the entrance fee
without to much time for all the ride´s.

Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

Hallo Markus!

Wie geht's  Smile

Nice read as always when I see the writings about your trips! And as you pointed out: interesting equipment.
Personally the Dash 8 still missing in my log, MD-80's not flown too often myself. Copenhagen is on our list here for a citybreak, so we'll see what's possible for me  Wink

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The crew was oldfashioned, like the plane. Three females in their fifties. Dont get me wrong, these ladies doing a real good job today,
real friendly and attentive.

I'm sorry for such staff to see their working condition nowadays when you compare theirs with the past. When those ladies begun serving, they were able to give their real attention and the airlines' service to their customers. Nowadays it's all about making money out of the selling of food and beverage. Most probably, the staff even gets less salary when their personal selling target is below 100%. That's a thing also done on other lowcost airlines (e.g. HV).

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
That´s what I call near the engine:

Pff, not really the best seat option on a Mad-Dog . Bad views, lot's of noise. For sure I would get a headache then! headache 

Gruß Dich,

Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8535 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3722 times:
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Hi Marcus,

I must say I am enjoying this summer series, a nice variaty for aircraft & destinations.

I've not had may flight's myself, other things going on  Sad

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
When we arrived at the plane I thought about that reg sounds familiar. So it was, I had another flight on the same route on this machine last year.

- Such a shame to get the same plane as before especially as SAS have a fiar few D84's.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5163 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3720 times:

Hallo, Eric,
thanx for your reply.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 3):
Copenhagen is on our list here for a citybreak, so we'll see what's possible for me

Copenhagen itself is a interesting place and on SK, MD´s, Dash-8 and for example the still missing 736, I will go again!.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 3):
I'm sorry for such staff to see their working condition nowadays when you compare theirs with the past.

And nevertheless the job was really well done, much better than on nowadays Loco´s.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 3):
Pff, not really the best seat option on a Mad-Dog

True, but it was ok inflight, and we had some time to chat with the ladies!.

Alles ok bei Dir?.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5163 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3713 times:

Hi, Mark,
thanx for your reply.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 4):
nice variaty for aircraft & destinations.

Always one of my intention´s!.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 4):
not had may flight's myself, other things going on

Hope to read something more soon, maybe about a trip to the FRA T2 terrace meeting!.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 4):
- Such a shame to get the same plane as before especially as SAS have a fiar few D84's.

Exactly my thoughts, three legs in the log, only two different aircrafts, but that´s life!.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently onlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1682 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

Hi Markus,

Oh my god, the summer series continues! A true pleasure to read! You've really picked a nice route with great equipment. A pity it was the same machine as last year, especially since SK has quite some DH8's in their fleet!
I'm already looking forward to the next report!

Herzlichen Dank und schoene Gruesse aus Holland!
Joost ( DALCE )



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8535 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3705 times:
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Hi Marcus,

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 6):
thanx for your reply.

- My pleasure, I always enjoy your reports,a good read and great pictures!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 6):
Hope to read something more soon, maybe about a trip to the FRA T2 terrace meeting!.

- More TR's later in the year, off to NYC late September with my brother, BA to JFK and back from EWR on a BA 763 - first time on a longhaul config BA 767.

A possible trip to Dublin with EI in October.

Work trips to Scotland, perhaps next week with BD.

Possible FRA meet.

Possible SQ A380 First Flight - am bidding  Smile - Fingers Crossed!!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 6):
Exactly my thoughts, three legs in the log, only two different aircrafts, but that´s life!.

- I know, but it's not fair at times like this!  Smile

Best Wishes

Mark



111,732,3,4,5,7,8,BBJ,741,742,743,744,752,762,763,764,772,77L,773,77W,L15,D10,30,40,AB3,AB6,A312.313,319,320,321,332,333
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5163 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

Hi, Joost,

thanx for your reply.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 7):
A true pleasure to read! You've really picked a nice route with great equipment.

True, SK is always good for some classic MD´s, the Dash or for example the 736.

Grüsse,
Markus


Hi, again Mark,

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
, I always enjoy your reports,a good read and great pictures!

Thanx, I also like to read your storys.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
Possible SQ A380 First Flight - am bidding - Fingers Crossed!!

Interesting schedule for the next months, nothing more fixed beyond that NCE trip next weekend into my log!.

Good luck for the A380, I´ve heard about biddings from EUR 5.000,-- and more, incredible.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4118 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3590 times:

Hello Markus

Like others I enjoy your summer series too and follow it with big interest. Nice reports, not too long and not too short- and always with a good amount of nice pictures!

I didn't know that SAS gave up free food/drinks in Europe- but the fares seem to be really ok!

Now I wish you a nice trip to NCE and back. I hope that the weather will get better until your flight so that you have a nice view of the mountains (the left seats are better on this route!)...

Best regards

Thomas



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User currently offlineDavidkunzVIE From Austria, joined Mar 2007, 431 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3524 times:

I get the feeling you always go where I'm about to go...
HAM, CPH,... what's next? FCO?
I'll be going to CPH on NE tomorrow (ex BTS).

Nice report and pictures!



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5163 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3370 times:

Hello, Thomas and David,
thanx for your replys.

Thomas:

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 10):
I didn't know that SAS gave up free food/drinks in Europe- but the fares seem to be really ok!

The fare was still ok, the service was surely low level in comparison to, for example LX with also good fares.

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 10):
nice view of the mountains (the left seats are better on this route

Fixed for online check-in at friday, hope nothing goes wrong this time.


David:

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Reply 11):
FCO?

No joke, FCO was scheduled the last weekend, but cancelled for some private reasons.

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Reply 11):
I'll be going to CPH on NE tomorrow (ex BTS

Wish you a nice trip and don´t forget to tell us something about your experience.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineVio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1414 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3364 times:

Very nice report! I flew SAS from SEA to HEL via CPH at the beg. of the year. I really liked it. Kastrup is a really nice airport. I hope to visit that again.


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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5163 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3355 times:

Hey, Vio,
thanx for your reply.

Quoting Vio (Reply 13):
. Kastrup is a really nice airport.

Also my opinion.
 Smile

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3220 times:

Hi Markus,

having just returned from my holiday, it is a nice surprise to find your summer series with lots of interesting airline-, aircraft- and airport combinations.

Interesting to read about your experiences with SAS - obviously they are doing a good job even if they don't serve any free food or drinks on short-haul flights in Economy any longer.

Nice pictures of your flights and of your train ride and Copenhagen as well.

Regards
Christoph


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26954 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

Hey Markus,
Another cool TR. That ride looks quite fun but too high up for me !! LOL....Nice photos as usual and nice write up.

Looking forward in particular to your LX TR !!!!

OA260

 Smile


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6770 posts, RR: 77
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

Hi Markus,

nice report with great pictures, as usual.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Nothing for free in Eco on SK.

How ridiculous - not even drinks? I knew about zero service on domestic legs, but not about the same policy on Euro flights. I wondered about Spanair's service performance, but at least they serve drinks and sandwiches on Euro flights. SAS should consider joining a low cost alliance...With that no-service approach I guess it'll be even harder to compete with growing rival Finnair. I'm looking forward to my flights on AY in October and November - I have read many positive reports about AY's Euro product.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
SK 655 operated by SAS MD-82 OY-KHE

Good old OY-KHE - I had that bird in February 2003 on a short, half empty early morning HEL-ARN flight - including a tasty breakfast with bread roll, jam, yogurt and different drinks. Good old times when SAS was still offering some kind of service.
Too bad OY-KHE wasn't painted in Star cls back then...


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5163 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

Hello,
back from NCE late last night and ready to read your replys.

Christoph:

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 15):
having just returned from my holiday

Thanx,your report is on the "to do list" later today!.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 15):
Interesting to read about your experiences with SAS - obviously they are doing a good job even if they don't serve any free food or drinks on short-haul flights in Economy any longer.

So it was, I do not expect that much in catering, but a free snack and something to drink, that will be nice, the next time on SK!.

Philip:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
That ride looks quite fun but too high up for me

Thanx, also for me, no problem to do it for my son!.


Jens:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
How ridiculous - not even drinks?

Thanx for your comment, but so it was.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
With that no-service approach I guess it'll be even harder to compete with growing rival Finnair. I'm looking forward to my flights on AY in October and November

I agree, AY offered a nice product on my last flights, also on domestic legs.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Good old OY-KHE - I had that bird in February 2003 on a short

Another one on the "me too" list
 Wink

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineBPS3458 From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 564 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3013 times:

Hi Markus,

another good and interesting TR. Will continue to read further the "summer series".

Cheers,

Peter


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5163 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (6 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2948 times:

Hello, Peter,
thanx for your reply.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineInfodesk From Switzerland, joined May 2006, 1454 posts, RR: 33
Reply 21, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

Hi Markus,

What a great idea, to have a visit to travel over this impressive bridge. I wish more bridges would be built as opposed to tunnels - a much nicer way to travel.

Great pics and a good read as always...and yes, you were real close to the engine!

Thanks also posting the links to your other reports - must have missed the BHX one. Look forward to reading about your LX trips

Happy flying
Infodesk



"Do nothing in haste, look well to each step and from the beginning think what may be the end" - Edward Whymper
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5163 posts, RR: 55
Reply 22, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

Hello, Infodesk,
thanx for your nice reply.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 21):
. I wish more bridges would be built as opposed to tunnels - a much nicer way to travel.

Another 100 % agreement
 Smile

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 21):
. Look forward to reading about your LX trips

BUD is already online, NCE follow´s soon!.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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