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Bangkok - Saigon On Air France A340  
User currently offlineThai744 From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 138 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 24355 times:
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A good day! I just found a third trip report buried deep in my laptop that I hadn't got around to posting. I know someone put up a report on this sector recently, but seeing as I had already written it I thought I'd put it up anyway.
Hope you enjoy it.

Air France
Date: 24 April 2007
Routing: Bangkok - Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon)
Aircraft: Airbus A340-313X
Registration: F-GLZU
Loading: J Class: 80%. Y Class: 50%.
Estimated Departure Time: 13:15
Actual Time of Departure: 13:16
Estimated Arrival Time: 14:40
Actual Arrival Time: 14:32

It's mainly photos as I feel photos tell more than text can in a lot of ways. (In fact, why post a TR without photos? Seems pointless to me, but anyway...)

I had to travel from Bangkok - Saigon for work. The cheapest fare was on Bangkok Airways, however this was sold out on their promotional fare. The next cheapest was on Air France, booked on line. I had never flown Air France and decided to give them a try. I also figured that considering the flight routing was CDG-BKK-SGN that the BKK-SGN sector would be lightly loaded. Turned out I was right. ^

I booked and paid by credit card on line, and received an e-receipt. However, when I got the check-in desk, they told me to go to the ticket counter and pick up a paper ticket. Seems to defeat the purpose of booking on line and not sure why they do this. Still, it only took 5 minutes, so no major inconvenience. The check in area was pretty much empty, and it was a joint check-in with AF and KLM.

After checking in, there were only 3 people in the immigration line ahead of me, and I decided to have a snack on F concourse, which was where the plane was leaving from - gate F5.

There is a range of food options here, and I went to the @Bangkok Cafe and Bar and had a nice roast beef sandwich and a 7-Up.





Here are some shots of the Bangkok Terminal, departures level:





I then made my way to gate F5 (at the end of the "F" pier - a long walk!) The Air France A340-313X was already parked and being serviced.




Boarding was quick, and the load was obviously light. I was allocated a window seat in the first row of economy class, right behind the bulkhead. It was a great seat, and the interior was recently refitted, so very comfortable and in good condition.






One thing I found totally bizarre (and annoying) was the the seat pockets weren't sewn at the bottom, so you would put a newspaper or book in there, and it would immediately fall straight through on to the floor...weird design!

We pushed back right on time. The crew seemed quite friendly (except for one old French bint who had a face like a bulldog licking piss off a stinging nettle, and should have packed it in years ago). The announcements were made in French and then English, but the accent of the chief purser and the Captain were very strong, so quite hard to understand.

Here are some shots of our taxi in Bangkok. A lot of A330's around today, and anyone know what an EVA Air MD-90 was doing in Bangkok?? Never seen one of those there before!














There was very little departing traffic at this time of day, so we taxied onto runway 19R and just kept rolling!

I hadn't flown on an A340 for a few years, and I had read reports of its incredibly long take-off runs and poor climb-out performance, but as we were so lightly loaded, we took off in no time at all, and the climb performance seemed to be similar to other aircraft. There was some cloud about, but no turbelence experienced at all.





The crew then handed out immigration forms for Vietnam, and then started the meal (snack) service as we passed over Rayong, near Pattaya.



There was a menu left behind from the CDG-BKK sector. Quite attractive!
Reading material consisted of the inflight magazine (articles in both French and English) and the safety card!






I was really pleasantly surprised by the snack! It was quite substantial for a 1 hour 15 minute flight and consisted of a nice sandwich, yoghurt, cake and choice of drinks - soft drinks, beer, red and white wine in small bottles.
Then they came around with tea of coffee.




We ended up cruising at 37,000 feet and levelled-out just after crossing into Cambodia.





I went for a wander and took a photo from the back of the economy cabin.


Before too long, we started out decent into Saigon. There was some fantastic cloud formations, and we were banking left and right and avoiding the storm cells. There was also fantastic condensation coming off the wing during decent too - quite spectacular!





Coming into Saigon, you really notice how densely packed the city is.
It's like flying in over Lego town!!

We landed very smoothly on 25R and rolled out to the end of the runway.
There was a Vietnam 777-200 waiting for us before she took off.









We taxiied to the gate, and passed a Vietnam Airlines A320 and an EVA Air A330 waiting to head back to Taipei. We parked at a remote stand and bussed over to the terminal. Immigration was painfully slow, as usual!
Luggage was there when I arrived at the belt which was a bonus.





Overall Impressions
I was impressed by Air France - even on a short hop like this one.
I would definitely try them long haul. The aircraft was clean, the snack substantial, and the service (apart from one flight attendant) very good. I normally fly Asian carriers, so its good to see a "western" airline still maintaining good levels of service. Tres bon!

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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 1822 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 24286 times:
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Quoting Thai744 (Thread starter):
The crew seemed quite friendly (except for one old French bint who had a face like a bulldog licking piss off a stinging nettle, and should have packed it in years ago).

Now can you tell us really how do you feel about that lady and don't hold anything Big grin

User currently offlineTreeHillRavens From Malaysia, joined Jun 2007, 228 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 24255 times:

Great report. Love the pictures.

User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1115 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 23821 times:

Thanks for sharing your long 'forgotten' TR !!

Glad you liked AF on this short stretch...hope to fly this myself early December, although equipment should be changed to 744 from 340 by that time  Smile KLM seems to be doing the technical handling at BKK, by looking at those vans roaming around your flight departure ?

Anyway, I know what to expect now...

Enjoyed your pictures: keep it up !!!


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User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 23666 times:

I really enjoy your photos.
You must have a good camera.

User currently offlineTwolz2rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 23651 times:

Great job!

What are the tags on the seats for in the second cabin shot looking back??

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2971 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 23407 times:

Quoting Twolz2rn (Reply 5):

Could be reserved seat signs (for those travelling CDG-Saigon)... only a guess, perhaps someone knows for sure

User currently offlineThai744 From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 23231 times:
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Yes, that's exactly what they were.

Tags for pax transitting in BKK.

Although what purpose they actually serve, I'm not sure!

User currently offlineSIN7 From Singapore, joined Jun 2007, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 23111 times:

No matter how often a TR sector has been posted, another new TR is always nice to see new pics.

User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 1677 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 23045 times:

Nice TR!!! I was seated at the same seat on this AF A340 12 years ago (just behind the C class, on the left) on a flight from MIA to CDG!!! however, for me, this flight was horrible due to severe turbulence over the Atlantic!!!


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User currently onlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 5728 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 22934 times:

Quoting Thai744 (Thread starter):
The announcements were made in French and then English, but the accent of the chief purser and the Captain were very strong, so quite hard to understand.

I've heard that before. Unless your native language is English, you won't understand them that well, which makes sectors like the one you were on difficult.


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User currently offlineChristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 739 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 22613 times:

Nice report - very interesting to fly Air France on such a short segment. Looks comfortable.


Keeping the "civil" in civil aviation...
User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 6400 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 21921 times:
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Good TR, nice set of pictures.

The interior of this 340 looked very nice indeed.

Regards

Mark


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 17531 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 21866 times:

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 1):
Now can you tell us really how do you feel about that lady and don't hold anything

LOL.....  rotfl   rotfl 

Nice TR . I noticed before on other AF TR's that those PTV's are way too small compared to other airlines. How can you watch such a small screen??? The J class seats look nice though.

Thanks for the pics.

OA260

User currently offlineGoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1151 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 21466 times:

thank you for this nice TR which I enjoyed particularly as I flew CDG-BKK-HAN shortly after you (april 26/27). I was seating on the same row as you but on the right handside. I had the same nice experience as you, although I'm used to as I'm a very frequent AF flyer.

Quoting Twolz2rn (Reply 5):
What are the tags on the seats for in the second cabin shot looking back??



Quoting Vasu (Reply 6):
Could be reserved seat signs (for those travelling CDG-Saigon)... only a guess, perhaps someone knows for sure



Quoting Thai744 (Reply 7):
Yes, that's exactly what they were.

Tags for pax transitting in BKK.

Although what purpose they actually serve, I'm not sure!

These tags (it's written "final" on them) are used on flights having a stop before reaching their final destination (e.g. CDG-BKK-HAN/SGN, CDG-EZE-SCL CDG-LAX-PPT, etc on AF network) to designate seats occupied by pax who are travelling until the final destination. For BKK stop sometimes the Thai authorities allow pax to disembark during the stop, sometimes not  banghead  , so in this latter case, this means that the cleaning service has to clean the A/C with pax on board and this tag is a way to indicate them to not remove / throw away stuff put in the seat pocket

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 21466 times:

Very nice trip report!!

I assume this means the new Bangkok Suvarnhabumi airport is back open? I hate to admit as a religious member of a.net that I didn't know it had re-opened, but it definitely appears as such!!


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User currently offlineInbarD From Israel, joined Jan 2007, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 21466 times:

Nice trip report! Really enjoyed the pics. Air France look pretty good.  bigthumbsup 

User currently offlineA350-200 From France, joined Oct 2000, 150 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 20984 times:

Really enjoyed reading your Trip report
Nice photos and comments

Just chose CX over AF for HAN & SGN via HKG, but will surely try AF again to Asia in a few month- good meals and cabin, + service.
I'm affraid I will be too lazy to writre any trip reort  Wink but who knows.
Regards

User currently offlineB747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 14381 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 20794 times:

Great TR.

The pics are brilliant.

Thank you for sharing.

B747forever.


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