Thai744 From Thailand, joined Jun 2004, 107 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 22044 times:
A good day! I just found a third trip report buried deep in my laptop that I hadn't got around to posting. I know someone put up a report on this sector recently, but seeing as I had already written it I thought I'd put it up anyway.
Hope you enjoy it.
Air France Date: 24 April 2007 Routing: Bangkok - Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) Aircraft: Airbus A340-313X Registration: F-GLZU Loading: J Class: 80%. Y Class: 50%. Estimated Departure Time: 13:15 Actual Time of Departure: 13:16 Estimated Arrival Time: 14:40 Actual Arrival Time: 14:32
It's mainly photos as I feel photos tell more than text can in a lot of ways. (In fact, why post a TR without photos? Seems pointless to me, but anyway...)
I had to travel from Bangkok - Saigon for work. The cheapest fare was on Bangkok Airways, however this was sold out on their promotional fare. The next cheapest was on Air France, booked on line. I had never flown Air France and decided to give them a try. I also figured that considering the flight routing was CDG-BKK-SGN that the BKK-SGN sector would be lightly loaded. Turned out I was right. ^
I booked and paid by credit card on line, and received an e-receipt. However, when I got the check-in desk, they told me to go to the ticket counter and pick up a paper ticket. Seems to defeat the purpose of booking on line and not sure why they do this. Still, it only took 5 minutes, so no major inconvenience. The check in area was pretty much empty, and it was a joint check-in with AF and KLM.
After checking in, there were only 3 people in the immigration line ahead of me, and I decided to have a snack on F concourse, which was where the plane was leaving from - gate F5.
There is a range of food options here, and I went to the @Bangkok Cafe and Bar and had a nice roast beef sandwich and a 7-Up.
Here are some shots of the Bangkok Terminal, departures level:
I then made my way to gate F5 (at the end of the "F" pier - a long walk!) The Air France A340-313X was already parked and being serviced.
Boarding was quick, and the load was obviously light. I was allocated a window seat in the first row of economy class, right behind the bulkhead. It was a great seat, and the interior was recently refitted, so very comfortable and in good condition.
One thing I found totally bizarre (and annoying) was the the seat pockets weren't sewn at the bottom, so you would put a newspaper or book in there, and it would immediately fall straight through on to the floor...weird design!
We pushed back right on time. The crew seemed quite friendly (except for one old French bint who had a face like a bulldog licking piss off a stinging nettle, and should have packed it in years ago). The announcements were made in French and then English, but the accent of the chief purser and the Captain were very strong, so quite hard to understand.
Here are some shots of our taxi in Bangkok. A lot of A330's around today, and anyone know what an EVA Air MD-90 was doing in Bangkok?? Never seen one of those there before!
There was very little departing traffic at this time of day, so we taxied onto runway 19R and just kept rolling!
I hadn't flown on an A340 for a few years, and I had read reports of its incredibly long take-off runs and poor climb-out performance, but as we were so lightly loaded, we took off in no time at all, and the climb performance seemed to be similar to other aircraft. There was some cloud about, but no turbelence experienced at all.
The crew then handed out immigration forms for Vietnam, and then started the meal (snack) service as we passed over Rayong, near Pattaya.
There was a menu left behind from the CDG-BKK sector. Quite attractive!
Reading material consisted of the inflight magazine (articles in both French and English) and the safety card!
I was really pleasantly surprised by the snack! It was quite substantial for a 1 hour 15 minute flight and consisted of a nice sandwich, yoghurt, cake and choice of drinks - soft drinks, beer, red and white wine in small bottles.
Then they came around with tea of coffee.
We ended up cruising at 37,000 feet and levelled-out just after crossing into Cambodia.
I went for a wander and took a photo from the back of the economy cabin.
Before too long, we started out decent into Saigon. There was some fantastic cloud formations, and we were banking left and right and avoiding the storm cells. There was also fantastic condensation coming off the wing during decent too - quite spectacular!
Coming into Saigon, you really notice how densely packed the city is.
It's like flying in over Lego town!!
We landed very smoothly on 25R and rolled out to the end of the runway.
There was a Vietnam 777-200 waiting for us before she took off.
We taxiied to the gate, and passed a Vietnam Airlines A320 and an EVA Air A330 waiting to head back to Taipei. We parked at a remote stand and bussed over to the terminal. Immigration was painfully slow, as usual!
Luggage was there when I arrived at the belt which was a bonus.
Overall Impressions
I was impressed by Air France - even on a short hop like this one.
I would definitely try them long haul. The aircraft was clean, the snack substantial, and the service (apart from one flight attendant) very good. I normally fly Asian carriers, so its good to see a "western" airline still maintaining good levels of service. Tres bon!
SOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 1538 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 21975 times:
Quoting Thai744 (Thread starter): The crew seemed quite friendly (except for one old French bint who had a face like a bulldog licking piss off a stinging nettle, and should have packed it in years ago).
Now can you tell us really how do you feel about that lady and don't hold anything
MH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1069 posts, RR: 24 Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 21510 times:
Thanks for sharing your long 'forgotten' TR !!
Glad you liked AF on this short stretch...hope to fly this myself early December, although equipment should be changed to 744 from 340 by that time KLM seems to be doing the technical handling at BKK, by looking at those vans roaming around your flight departure ?
LY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 1630 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 20734 times:
Nice TR!!! I was seated at the same seat on this AF A340 12 years ago (just behind the C class, on the left) on a flight from MIA to CDG!!! however, for me, this flight was horrible due to severe turbulence over the Atlantic!!!
RoseFlyer From United States, joined Feb 2004, 5614 posts, RR: 27 Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 20623 times:
Quoting Thai744 (Thread starter): The announcements were made in French and then English, but the accent of the chief purser and the Captain were very strong, so quite hard to understand.
I've heard that before. Unless your native language is English, you won't understand them that well, which makes sectors like the one you were on difficult.
OA260 From Greece, joined Nov 2006, 16684 posts, RR: 53 Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 19555 times:
Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 1): Now can you tell us really how do you feel about that lady and don't hold anything
LOL.....
Nice TR . I noticed before on other AF TR's that those PTV's are way too small compared to other airlines. How can you watch such a small screen??? The J class seats look nice though.
Thanks for the pics.
OA260
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Goldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1064 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 19155 times:
thank you for this nice TR which I enjoyed particularly as I flew CDG-BKK-HAN shortly after you (april 26/27). I was seating on the same row as you but on the right handside. I had the same nice experience as you, although I'm used to as I'm a very frequent AF flyer.
Quoting Twolz2rn (Reply 5): What are the tags on the seats for in the second cabin shot looking back??
Quoting Vasu (Reply 6): Could be reserved seat signs (for those travelling CDG-Saigon)... only a guess, perhaps someone knows for sure
Quoting Thai744 (Reply 7): Yes, that's exactly what they were.
Tags for pax transitting in BKK.
Although what purpose they actually serve, I'm not sure!
These tags (it's written "final" on them) are used on flights having a stop before reaching their final destination (e.g. CDG-BKK-HAN/SGN, CDG-EZE-SCL CDG-LAX-PPT, etc on AF network) to designate seats occupied by pax who are travelling until the final destination. For BKK stop sometimes the Thai authorities allow pax to disembark during the stop, sometimes not , so in this latter case, this means that the cleaning service has to clean the A/C with pax on board and this tag is a way to indicate them to not remove / throw away stuff put in the seat pocket
PanAm747 From United States, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 11 Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 19155 times:
Very nice trip report!!
I assume this means the new Bangkok Suvarnhabumi airport is back open? I hate to admit as a religious member of a.net that I didn't know it had re-opened, but it definitely appears as such!!
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A350-200 From France, joined Oct 2000, 150 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 18673 times:
Really enjoyed reading your Trip report
Nice photos and comments
Just chose CX over AF for HAN & SGN via HKG, but will surely try AF again to Asia in a few month- good meals and cabin, + service.
I'm affraid I will be too lazy to writre any trip reort but who knows.
Regards