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Mad Dog, A320 Tech Delay & Best Of Lanzarote (pix)  
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6811 posts, RR: 77
Posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13003 times:

Experienced Spanair Mad Dog, A320 Technical Delay & Best of Lanzarote (pics)


Background
This trip report is the last part in a series of three - here are the two others, including Lufthansa CityLine CRJ900, Spanair A321, Islas Airways ATR 72-200 & Binter ATR 72-200 (operated by Naysa):
Canaries And Confusion: LH CRJ900 & Spanair A321 (by PlaneHunter Jul 24 2007 in Trip Reports)
Canaries Prop-Hopping: Islas Airways & Naysa (pix) (by PlaneHunter Aug 26 2007 in Trip Reports)


Beach spotting
Sea, beach & sun is what you get at many holiday destinations – even better if you can add planes to the combo. Our hotel was just some kilometers away from Lanzarote airport so I could watch planes on approach from our terrace, sometimes it was possible to get the registration. Just on the second day we found out that a 1,5 hours walk along the beach would end up directly at the airport fence.  Smile
Binter Canarias, Futura, Iberia, Spanair and Air Europa are frequent visitors at the airport, complemented by a variety of mostly holiday carriers, e.g. AeBal, Air Berlin, Air Malta, Condor, Edelweiss Air, First Choice, FlyJet, Hamburg Int'l, Iberworld, Islas Airways, LTE, Martinair, Monarch, MyTravel, Naysa, Thomas Cook, Thomsonfly, TUIfly and XL Airways.


FlyJet B757




Binter ATR 72-500




Thomas Cook A320







Impressions from Lanzarote
There are numerous places of interest on the island - here's an overview:

Playa de los Pocillos at Puerto del Carmen (300 meters from our hotel), one of the nicest beaches on the island, mostly consisting of fine grey sand, shelving gently into the sea. There are only very few places with black stones on that beach.




Fundacion Cesar Marique - situated in what was local artist César Manrique's house, known as 'El Taro de Tahiche'. The house is built on an unusual and unique terrain - over five lava bubbles.




Pleasantly illuminated walkway through Manrique's house.




Beautiful flower in the garden of Manrique's house.




Stonewall-walkway to Castillo de San José, at the north end of the island capital Arrecife. It was built in 1776 on the orders of King Charles III as a reaction to pirate attacks. In 1974 it was revamped by artist César Manrique into the Museo Internacional de Arte Contemporáneo.




Jameos del Agua - caves, formed as lava tubes or volcanic bubbles, artistically linked up in accordance with César Manrique's designs. One of the caverns is a concert hall with perfect acoustics, others are used as restaurants and bars. There's also a subterranean lagoon containing rare animal life and a museum of vulcanology.




Another eye-catching flower, this time in the gardens of Jameos del Agua.




Mirador del Río - a viewpoint situated on an approximately 475 meters high escarpment called Batería del Río in the very north Lanzarote, created by artist César Manrique. It provides a stunning view over the strait of Río towards the archaic island of La Graciosa. The view wasn't optimal on the day when we went up there.




The Valley of 1000 Palms in the municipality of Haría in the island's north.




Blossoming cactus - one of many species on the island.




Iglesia de San Miguel - dominates the scene at the Plaza de la Constitución in the historic town of Teguise which was the ancient capital of the island until 1852, when the administration was transferred to Arrecife. Many Lanzaroteños still regard Teguise as their real capital and refer to Arrecife only as El Puerto (the port).




Parque Nacional de Timanfaya - the clearest exponent of the volcanic origins of the island, with a red, ochre and black lunar landscape which encloses the Montañas de Fuego (Fire Mountains) and stretches over approximately 50 square kilometres (19 square miles).




Islote de Hilario, a black volcano, crowned by the Manrique designed glass-walled El Diablo restaurant, built in a circle and offering breathtaking views over the moon-like landscape.




El Golfo - a half-submerged cone of a volcano, which has been eroded by the sea, leaving behind only the striated wall of the crater displaying a myriad of colours, which various shades of reds and russets prevailing. At the foot of the crater wall is Lago Verde, a half-moon-shaped lagoon of a striking green colour, for which mainly account volcanic minerals and micro-organisms that are believed to be unique in this lake.




Los Hervideros - caves and blow holes which have been eroded by the sea from the lava flow.




The vineyards of La Gería, famous for traditional methods of cultivation. Single vines are planted in pits, protected by stone walls. The vineyards are part of the World Heritage Site.





Wednesday, 11 July 2007
Lanzarote (ACE) - Barcelona (BCN)
Spanair JK5261
14:45-18:35 (14:44-18:24)
Flying time: 02:24 (hrs)

McDonnell Douglas MD-83
EC-GVO Sunspot (s/n 1421), first delivered 02/1988 to Braathens Sweden
Economy Seat 22A



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Check-in machine out of order
It hadn't been possible to reserve particular seats in advance so we headed to the airport more than two hours prior to departure. First of all I approached the single check-in machine next to the counters - but it was completely switched off. Quite disappointing and definitely negative advertising for Spanair and the whole Star Alliance when faced with all the member airlines' shiny logos on the machine...  thumbsdown 
So we had to line up in a long queue - most of the travellers were bound for the flight to Madrid leaving about one hour earlier than us. After some 20 minutes it was our turn and we were welcomed by two friendly female agents, a trainee on the computer and a supervisor behind. I didn't remember the MD-83's seat map - and since I wanted to sit somewhere in the rear cabin I asked for a row over the wing to make sure we wouldn't end up at a blind window. After only a few minutes we got our boarding passes and row 22 looked promising.

Water Bottle Undetected
We bought some sweets for the no-frills domestic flight and passed through security. And just when I took my bag from the belt after screening I realized I had forgotten about a still unopened 500ml water bottle. However, the screeners didn't ask me to open the bag and I just walked away - either the bottle had remained undetected or they didn't care about it, who knows...  Confused

Arrecife Airport Spotting
The gate area at ACE airport is quite convenient, with various shops and restaurants as well as large windows and a small terrace, ideal for spotting. However, traffic was low and we decided to have a snack. I had hoped for an MD-83 in Star Alliance colors, but then I spotted EC-GVO on approach.




EC-GVO & its Eventful Life
Later at home I found out that the aircraft, named Sunspot, had had an eventful history before taken up by Spanair. The plane was built in October 1987 but ILFC cancelled the acquisition in 12/87. After being registered EC-EFL both Spantax and Las Palmas-based Air Sur also cancelled the acquisition of the aircraft. Then Irish Aerospace Leasing accepted the bird which finally started flying for Braathens Sweden as SE-DHF and was leased to Gatwick-based British Island Airways between 03/88 and 05/88. Between 10/88 and 12/88 Lineas Aéreas Canarias operated the aircraft as EC-190 and EC-EKT before Mexico City-based LaTur introduced it as XA-TUR.


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After only three months in Mexico, Aviaco added the bird to its fleet for a total of three years, first as EC-257 and later as EC-EMT. In 04/92 TransAlsace acquired the plane as F-GMCD and used it for nearly eight months.


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In 12/92 Irish Aerospace Leasing registered the plane EI-CGR and leased it to Key Air Int'l, Private Jet Expeditions (04/93) and to French carrier TransAlsace. Oasis Int'l Airlines then introduced the bird as EC-807 in 03/95, changed the registration to EC-GBY and later leased it to Shaheen Air Int'l. In 05/96 the plane was transferred to Centennial Airlines as EC-323 and EC-GHJ before moving to Blue Scandinavia as SE-DHF in 02/97.


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GECAS changed the registration to N462GE in 03/98 and Spanair finally took up the plane as EC-GVO in 06/98.


Cabin Comfort – Exit Row, No Instructions
The check-in agent had taken my request literally because our seats were located in the exit row over the wing - so plenty of legroom for us on that 2,5 hours journey.



Interestingly, no F/A explained the safety procedures for the emergency exit - they didn't even check whether we speak Spanish or English. Not encouraging in terms of safety - there could always be people undiscovered who don't understand anything and are unable to react adequately in a case of emergency.

Just like on the A321, Spanair has placed Vodafone ads throughout the cabin - supporting the LCC-style of its domestic service.




Departure
Boarding was completed soon (load factor nearly 100%) and we left the gate even early. The city of Arrecife in the background:




Terminal on the left, runway on the right:




Turning onto runway 03:




Only a few moments after stopping the two PW JT8Ds howled and accelerated the MD-83 for takeoff...




...and an enjoyable steep climbout:




Some more impressions of Lanzarote's stunning landscape:






Heading for the Atlantic Ocean:






Cruise
The flight was rather uneventful, except for the fact that it was very cool in the window seat - the whole wall around the emergency exit felt very cold. I didn't notice that when I had the exit row on a B734 earlier this year. TV screens were non-existant on the MD-83 so I read a book for most of the time. The F/As offered drinks and food for sale, but after the more than disappointing experience on the MAD-ACE flight I refused to even have a look at the menu card again. Please check the first report for further details on Spanair's domestic service offerings:
Canaries And Confusion: LH CRJ900 & Spanair A321 (by PlaneHunter Jul 24 2007 in Trip Reports)

Cloudy skies all along the way...




...until we reached the Continent:




Quick geography quiz - what exactly is down there? I know the answer, btw...  Wink





Approach to BCN
After F/As had "generously" offered tiny candies, approach to Barcelona was started. Various cargo ships...




...land reclamation works...




...and a large sewage plant (?) facility.




EC-GVO touched down at 18:19 and taxied to a remote position. We left the aircraft through the rear exit:




Last opportunity for a Mad Dog tail shot:





Barcelona Airport Spotting
BCN's "old terminal" is still a quite convenient place to change planes. Large windows offer good views of the tarmac, runways 2/20 & 07L/25R and aircraft taxiing to the distant runway 07R/25L.



Wednesday, 11 July 2007
Barcelona (BCN) - Munich (MUC)
Spanair JK137
19:20-21:10 (20:45-22:47)
Flying time: 02:02 (hrs)

Airbus A320-232
EC-ILH (MSN 1914), STAR ALLIANCE cls, delivered 02/2003
Economy Seat 27B



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Late arrival & Delay
I had been concerned a bit about the rather limited planned connecting time of 45 minutes but all worries were gone due to our on-time arrival from ACE. When we reached our gate for flight 137 to MUC I realized that the plane hadn't arrived yet. The information screen at the gate confirmed what I guessed: Departure delayed by an hour to 20:20. So I used the additional time for spotting and got lots of registration in the evening rush. I knew that any Spanair A320 on approach could be our aircraft and again I hoped for a Star Alliance logojet. Soon EC-KEC (ex-bmi) in regular colors arrived, rolled towards our gate...but just stopped in the last moment and turned into the adjoining gate. The next one on approach was EC-ILH in Star colors and fortunately it turned out to be our bird this evening.  thumbsup 



While passengers were already waiting in queue at the gate shortly before 20:00, I noticed that after unloading ground operations around the plane had apparently been stopped. Baggage handlers and flight crew were standing around on the tarmac and I wondered about a possible technical problem. After some ten minutes of waiting ground operations started again and at 20:30 we were welcomed to board to the aircraft.

Cabin Comfort & Seating
Boarding was completed quite fast as all passengers had already been present at the gate. The load was quite light this evening, somewhere between 50 and 60 per cent. The cabin didn't look any different from the A321 one week before. Cabin shot from the database:

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We went down to the second last row and took our seats:




Even though one seat in our row remained empty, it felt really cramped, just like on the A321. Seat pitch is at minimum even on the A320 used for international routes, worse than on numerous low cost carriers. Must be terrible if you are stuck in the middle seat and the person in front reclines the seat back...




Door under Repair
Just after boarding had been completed a friendly captain welcomed us on board and apologized for the delay. He explained that the plane had arrived late from Las Palmas and was NOW (!) still undergoing repair on one of the rear passenger doors: "Mechanics are still working on the problem and I hope we can leave soon."  eyebrow 
So I had guessed right and now I really hoped the problem could be fixed - I simply wanted to get this logojet.

Departure
After I had heard the left rear door being closed and opened several times we were pushed back at 20:45 - almost 1,5 hours late. The rear door was still open at this point of time and I wasn't sure whether we were ready for departure or just had to clear the gate - but a few moments later the door was closed definitely and engines were started.

EC-KAZ - one of seven (!) Spanair MD-87s currently painted in Star Alliance colors:




Meanwhile EC-IPI, another Spanair A320 in Star Alliance colors, had arrived:




On our way to runway 07R we passed Barcelona Airport's new T-Sur terminal:




At 21:06 the two IAE V2527-A5 engines finally accelerated EC-ILH for takeoff.




Clear skies ahead:




IFE
I always had a look at the moving map on the overhead screen when it occurred, but I didn't care about TV features and the audio channels which I had already found unappealing on the MAD-ACE sector.



The best IFE was the window on this evening flight anyway, with the sun...




..slowly disappearing.




Snack
Just after sunset onboard service started - totally free of charge on this international sector. Friendly F/As offered cold and hot drinks (good coffee) as well as sandwiches. They tasted quite average - but still much better than the expensive and almost unpalatable stuff on the MAD-ACE sector.



The remaining flight was uneventful and we touched down at runway 26L at 22:41, some 1,5 hours late.



Conclusion
As already pointed out in the first report, Spanair's domestic product is one big disappointment. Apart from a tiny sweet prior to landing, "service" is non-existent. While this may be ok for short hops on the mainland, it's unacceptable that a Star Alliance member does not even serve a free cup of water on 2,5 hours flights to the Canary Islands. What's even more annoying is the low quality of the stuff they sell - I don't mind paying 5 Euro for a sandwich if it's fresh and tastes good - but charging 5 Euro for junk food is impudent. Numerous LCCs know how to make it better.
Service on international flights includes free cold and hot drinks as well as snacks such as sandwiches. Though the offerings weren't outstanding, there's no reason to complain.

Seating is a general problem on Spanair - I can't comment on the regular rows on the MD-80s, but seat pitch on the A320 and A321 is at minimum, worse than on many low-cost carriers. F/As and ground staff can be friendly and helpful, but some can also appear indifferent. Overhead TV screens and different audio channels were available on the Airbus fleet, but apart from the moving map the IFE programming wasn't striking.

Spanair offers an average product on international flights which wouldn't keep me off from flying the airline again - but I would definitely avoid longer domestic segments.


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter


Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
29 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27005 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12977 times:

Hi there thanks for the TR . I have avoided flying JK as I still see them as a charter airline (JKK)!! They are very basic.
I dont know what their C class product is like but I would not like to fly them in Y thats for sure.

Do you know if the seat pitch in C is better than Y???

Anyway some really good pics of Lanzarote. I have never been but it looks interesting.


OA260


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 12824 times:

Hi PH,
I enjoyed also your report on this homebound flights for you. It's always nice to fly any MD-80 series, basically in Y legroom is mostly/always better then on any Boeing or Airbus. I've flown JKK myself on a MD-83 once, and really enjoyed the smooth and calm ride. During flight, I bought a coffee and muffin from the menu, which tasted good as far as I remember. Also some M&M FFP points added for the flight. So I don't really complain. Will fly JKK again as long as it's a MD-80 or B717  Wink

Lanzarote is a nice island indeed. I got back some memories from a holiday about 6 years back at this island, and I see there is now a bicycle path along the airport perimeter fence. That's quite new I think.

Cheers,
Eric



"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineRogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 12664 times:

Hola PlaneHunter!

Thanks a lot for the great pictures of Lanzarote, one of the best islands in the Canary archipelago, at least one of the less spoiled by tourism.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...and a large sewage plant (?) facility.

It is indeed a huge facility cleaning sewage from the city. Just opened few years ago and always a sign that landing is right ahead when coming from the north.

Salut!

Roger



"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12646 times:
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Hi PH,

Great report and pictures as usual, liked the Lanzarotye pic's with the text relating to it's history or importance, nice touch that.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Our hotel was just some kilometers away from Lanzarote airport so I could watch planes on approach from our terrace, sometimes it was possible to get the registration.

- Cool,like it already  Smile what's the hotel called and like?

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2976 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12513 times:

nice report and great pics.
I think we have the same aims: fly once on any Star Alliance logojet  Wink Big grin


User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6811 posts, RR: 77
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12448 times:

Thanks for all your replies!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Do you know if the seat pitch in C is better than Y???

I'm not sure about that - I have read negative and positive reports about their C class. At least the A321's C class (MAD-ACE) looked quite cramped.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 2):
It's always nice to fly any MD-80 series

No doubt about that!

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 2):
That's quite new I think.

Yes, the path is qute new and really popular.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 3):
Thanks a lot for the great pictures of Lanzarote, one of the best islands in the Canary archipelago, at least one of the less spoiled by tourism.

True, not as crowded as so many other islands and regions.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 3):
It is indeed a huge facility cleaning sewage from the city.

Thank you for the update.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 4):
- Cool,like it already Smile what's the hotel called and like?

It's called RIU Olivina which I can only recommend (friendly staff, great food, very clean everywhere).

http://www.riu.com/en/hotel-riu-olivina-lanzarote.html

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 5):
I think we have the same aims: fly once on any Star Alliance logojet

Trying to fly on any of them would require lots of money and some years off...  Wink


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12432 times:

Thanks for posting the pictures of Lanzarote, a place I want to visit.

User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5170 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12429 times:

Hey, PH,

superb pix from Lanzarote. I remember some locations from my visit´s there.
Good report, as usual.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
airport so I could watch planes on approach from our terrace, sometimes it was possible to get the registration.

Sitting in the evening sun on the hotel terrace with something nice to drink, watching the planes gone by,
heaven for A.netters
 Smile

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Quick geography quiz - what exactly is down there? I know the answer, btw...

AFAIK, the Mar Menor, near Murcia?.

I´ve had only peninsula spain domestics on JK in my log, so no comparable view into scheduled international
operations.

Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: Capital travel on schedule!.
User currently offlineRogerbcn From Andorra, joined Sep 2006, 1209 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12408 times:

Hola again!

Just forgot to answer your quiz...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Quick geography quiz - what exactly is down there? I know the answer, btw...

...I think it is Gibraltar and the Algeciras' bay on the left.

Salut!

Roger



"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6811 posts, RR: 77
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 12235 times:

Thanks for all your new comments!

Quoting Semsem (Reply 7):
Thanks for posting the pictures of Lanzarote, a place I want to visit.

I'm sure you would enjoy your stay there.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 8):
Sitting in the evening sun on the hotel terrace with something nice to drink, watching the planes gone by,
heaven for A.netters

So true!  Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 8):
AFAIK, the Mar Menor, near Murcia?.

No, not quite correct - but a good guess.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 9):
...I think it is Gibraltar and the Algeciras' bay on the left.

Hola - 100 points for Roger!  Wink


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 11810 times:

Another fantastic report, I really enjoyed the pictures, thanks a lot for posting!


Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Our hotel was just some kilometers away from Lanzarote airport so I could watch planes on approach from our terrace,

That is what I call a prefect hotel!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
either the bottle had remained undetected or they didn't care about it, who knows...

I bet that they didn't care because all of them (as well as the rest of the world's population except a few utterly retarded EU bureaucrats) know that this rule is the most moronic in the history of air travel.  Wink

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Spanair has placed Vodafone ads throughout the cabin - supporting the LCC-style of its domestic service.

At least they only place the ads on the "Flohfänger" in front of you and not fleetwide on the overhead bins like a certain POS airline from Ireland is doing.  Silly

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We left the aircraft through the rear exit:

Truely a classic way to enter or exit a plane.  cheerful  I remember that I once boarded a Tunis Air Boeing 727-200 via the rear stairs in Djerba, actually I was a bit sad that I had to use the jetbridge when we arrived in Dusseldorf.

Patrick


User currently offlineTaichen From Spain, joined Jul 2001, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11700 times:

Lanzarote is indeed a very interesting place to visit.

AS for Spanair, I was not aware that they are offering again free catering on European legs. The offer, however, looks pretty awful. I don't think Spanair deserves to be a *A carrier anymore, I think they should follow the Aer Lingus path.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 11668 times:

Amazing TR.

One of the best.

Thank you for sharing.

B747forever



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User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11498 times:

Thanks for the great report!!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Experienced Spanair Mad Dog, A320 Technical Delay & Best of Lanzarote (pics)
Background
This trip report is the last part in a series of three - here are the two others, including Lufthansa CityLine CRJ900, Spanair A321, Islas Airways ATR 72-200 & Binter ATR 72-200 (operated by Naysa):
Canaries And Confusion: LH CRJ900 & Spanair A321 (by PlaneHunter Jul 24 2007 in Trip Reports)
Canaries Prop-Hopping: Islas Airways & Naysa (pix) (by PlaneHunter Aug 26 2007 in Trip Reports)

Damn... I still haven't gotten around to reading them

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Just on the second day we found out that a 1,5 hours walk along the beach would end up directly at the airport fence.

I'll need to keep that in mind whenever I get around to planning a new spotting-trip...  Smile

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
EC-GVO & its Eventful Life
Later at home I found out that the aircraft, named Sunspot, had had an eventful history before taken up by Spanair. The plane was built in October 1987 but ILFC cancelled the acquisition in 12/87. After being registered EC-EFL both Spantax and Las Palmas-based Air Sur also cancelled the acquisition of the aircraft. Then Irish Aerospace Leasing accepted the bird which finally started flying for Braathens Sweden as SE-DHF and was leased to Gatwick-based British Island Airways between 03/88 and 05/88. Between 10/88 and 12/88 Lineas Aéreas Canarias operated the aircraft as EC-190 and EC-EKT before Mexico City-based LaTur introduced it as XA-TUR.

After only three months in Mexico, Aviaco added the bird to its fleet for a total of three years, first as EC-257 and later as EC-EMT. In 04/92 TransAlsace acquired the plane as F-GMCD and used it for nearly eight months.

In 12/92 Irish Aerospace Leasing registered the plane EI-CGR and leased it to Key Air Int'l, Private Jet Expeditions (04/93) and to French carrier TransAlsace. Oasis Int'l Airlines then introduced the bird as EC-807 in 03/95, changed the registration to EC-GBY and later leased it to Shaheen Air Int'l. In 05/96 the plane was transferred to Centennial Airlines as EC-323 and EC-GHJ before moving to Blue Scandinavia as SE-DHF in 02/97.

GECAS changed the registration to N462GE in 03/98 and Spanair finally took up the plane as EC-GVO in 06/98.

Damn...  Wink ... that's a lot of changes - and all that within (this month) 20 years... Happy Birthday, EC-GVO...  Wink

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

The flight was rather uneventful, except for the fact that it was very cool in the window seat - the whole wall around the emergency exit felt very cold. I didn't notice that when I had the exit row on a B734 earlier this year.

I've noticed that on A32S, B757s and CRJs as well...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After F/As had "generously" offered tiny candies, approach to Barcelona was started. Various cargo ships...

Similar to LX's chocolate bar on short European flights? Though, at least that's really good chocolate...  Wink

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We left the aircraft through the rear exit:

I've, unfortunately, never had the chance to leave a plane that way - and I've flown on enough planes that had that exit...  Sad

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The next one on approach was EC-ILH in Star colors and fortunately it turned out to be our bird this evening.

Somehow, whenever I board a plane in Star Alliance colors (or any other special livery), I cannot help but feel a bit disappointed that they look just like any other plane in the fleet on the inside...  Wink ... I know it's too expensive to change something on the inside as well, but it'd just make the whole thing more special.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Even though one seat in our row remained empty, it felt really cramped, just like on the A321. Seat pitch is at minimum even on the A320 used for international routes, worse than on numerous low cost carriers. Must be terrible if you are stuck in the middle seat and the person in front reclines the seat back...

If you compare it to AB's pitch on a B738 - better or worse? Because on one of those, I heard my gf crying out in pain when the idiot sitting in front of her decided to recline his seat - not slowly and carefully like people with a brain do, but by pushing the button and throwing himself into the seat...

I guess I'll have to make sure we avoid JK as well in the future, just like AB has now gone onto our no-fly-list...  Sad

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
He explained that the plane had arrived late from Las Palmas and was NOW (!) still undergoing repair on one of the rear passenger doors: "Mechanics are still working on the problem and I hope we can leave soon."

...  Wink ... I can only guess what'd be going on in the mind of a fearful flyer when hearing that...  Wink ...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
it's unacceptable that a Star Alliance member does not even serve a free cup of water on 2,5 hours flights to the Canary Islands

Eek... they've definitely just earned a place on our no-fly-list... unbelievable!!!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but apart from the moving map the IFE programming wasn't striking.

One of the worst things that airlines can do on those monitors is show some of those "funny" (if you've got an IQ below 1) shows like "America's funniest home videos", or that eternal-idiocy called "Oops" (or something similar)...  vomit 

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 3):
Thanks a lot for the great pictures of Lanzarote, one of the best islands in the Canary archipelago, at least one of the less spoiled by tourism.

Never been to the canaries yet - but the island certainly does look good...

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 11):
I bet that they didn't care because all of them (as well as the rest of the world's population except a few utterly retarded EU bureaucrats) know that this rule is the most moronic in the history of air travel.

Fortunately, more and more EU politicians are regaining their senses after being swamped with all those nonsensical reports that this moronic measure would actually do anything to increase security - and they're considering lifting this asinine ban...  Smile

Again - PlaneHunter - thanks for the great report and the great pictures!

Frank



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User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6811 posts, RR: 77
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 11403 times:

Thanks for all your comments, Patrick, Taichen, Gabriel & Frank!

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 11):
I bet that they didn't care because all of them (as well as the rest of the world's population except a few utterly retarded EU bureaucrats) know that this rule is the most moronic in the history of air travel.

...which prevents us from doing a beer swap at an airport again.  Wink

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 11):
Truely a classic way to enter or exit a plane. cheerful I remember that I once boarded a Tunis Air Boeing 727-200 via the rear stairs in Djerba, actually I was a bit sad that I had to use the jetbridge when we arrived in Dusseldorf.

TU 727 sounds great - must have been a memorable flight!

Quoting Taichen (Reply 12):
AS for Spanair, I was not aware that they are offering again free catering on European legs. The offer, however, looks pretty awful. I don't think Spanair deserves to be a *A carrier anymore, I think they should follow the Aer Lingus path.

No matter if SK or JK - Star Alliance needs easy access to their home markets. Economy class service is not really relevant for the alliance, unfortunately.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 13):
One of the best.

Thanks a lot!

Quoting Leskova (Reply 14):
Damn... I still haven't gotten around to reading them

There's always a "tomorrow"...  Wink

Quoting Leskova (Reply 14):
Damn... Wink ... that's a lot of changes - and all that within (this month) 20 years... Happy Birthday, EC-GVO...

Indeed, it has just turned 20.  Smile

Quoting Leskova (Reply 14):
Similar to LX's chocolate bar on short European flights? Though, at least that's really good chocolate...

No, not even close. It's just a hard, sweet sugar plum.

Quoting Leskova (Reply 14):
If you compare it to AB's pitch on a B738 - better or worse? Because on one of those, I heard my gf crying out in pain when the idiot sitting in front of her decided to recline his seat - not slowly and carefully like people with a brain do, but by pushing the button and throwing himself into the seat...

The old-style cabin on AB's 738s is comparable to JK's layout. But AB's new slimline seats (e.g. on the A320s) make a difference. Hopefully the 738s will soon get a cabin update.

Quoting Leskova (Reply 14):
Eek... they've definitely just earned a place on our no-fly-list... unbelievable!!!

...and you haven't read my comments on their catering in the first report yet...

Quoting Leskova (Reply 14):
Never been to the canaries yet - but the island certainly does look good...

I'll definitely go to the Canaries again, next time to another island. There are lots of places to explore.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineTango29 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11235 times:

Hey great trip report

I have to agree with you in regards to the seating on Spanair Airbuses, i flew DUB-LPA-DUB on newly
delivered A320's a few years ago and i was really disappointed as i'm 6ft tall and i'll always remember
these 2 flights as the most cramped and uncomfortable flights i have ever taken which is a pity cos the
service was quiet good.

Cheers!



Flown: A300,310,319,320,321,332,333,346,380, B720, 727,732,733,734,735,738,741,744,752,753,763,772,773
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6811 posts, RR: 77
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11038 times:

Quoting Tango29 (Reply 16):
Hey great trip report

I have to agree with you in regards to the seating on Spanair Airbuses, i flew DUB-LPA-DUB on newly
delivered A320's a few years ago and i was really disappointed as i'm 6ft tall and i'll always remember
these 2 flights as the most cramped and uncomfortable flights i have ever taken which is a pity cos the
service was quiet good.

Thanks!

Spending some 4+ hours in such a cramped cabin twice must indeed be a memorable experience. What kind of food did they serve?


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineTango29 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 10902 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Spending some 4+ hours in such a cramped cabin twice must indeed be a memorable experience. What kind of food did they serve?

It was one i will never forget, i was stuck in the middle seat on the return leg which was horrible because
there was very little pitch so it was very hard to be any way comfortable, as far as i can remember they
served some kind of hot breakfast which was much appreciated as it was and overnight flight from LPA.
Trying to eat breakfast in a cramped middle seat with the seat in front fully reclined was not easy!!



Flown: A300,310,319,320,321,332,333,346,380, B720, 727,732,733,734,735,738,741,744,752,753,763,772,773
User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6811 posts, RR: 77
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10743 times:

Quoting Tango29 (Reply 18):
It was one i will never forget, i was stuck in the middle seat on the return leg which was horrible because
there was very little pitch so it was very hard to be any way comfortable

The middle seat makes it even worse - we had a row for ourselves on the BCN-MUC sector and it still felt cramped.


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10728 times:

Quoting Leskova (Reply 14):
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
it's unacceptable that a Star Alliance member does not even serve a free cup of water on 2,5 hours flights to the Canary Islands

Eek... they've definitely just earned a place on our no-fly-list... unbelievable!!!

Getting no drink on a 2.5 hour flight is still better than getting annoyed by these always unmotivated and utterly stupid underclass bitches which are working for Lufthansa (actually a company on their level, isn't it?). These rejects are always asking you something like: "Watt wolln'se zu trink'n hab'n?".

Quoting Leskova (Reply 14):
One of the worst things that airlines can do on those monitors is show some of those "funny" (if you've got an IQ below 1) shows like "America's funniest home videos", or that eternal-idiocy called "Oops" (or something similar)...

I agree completely. I still can't believe that the people which are responsible for the onboard entertainment think that this is entertaining at all. They should rather display the flight map.

Quoting Leskova (Reply 14):
and they're considering lifting this asinine ban...

Considering the well known EU bureaucracy, I bet that the ban gets lifted in 2014 at the earliest.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 15):
...which prevents us from doing a beer swap at an airport again.

Another reason to go and over this crap!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 15):
TU 727 sounds great - must have been a memorable flight!

It was indeed. It was in 1990 or 1991, my parents and me were facing the end of a great holiday on Djerba and actually we should fly back to Dusseldorf on an Aero Lloyd flight (with the old "AEF" and not newer "YP" flight number), but somehow we got rebooked on a Tunis Air (yes, correct spelling back then, not "Tunisair" like nowadays) flight. My parents were still smokers at this time so we got - of course - a seat in the rear on the first row after the rear exit (lots of space). Other surprises were the hot meal (the first time I got served a hot meal on a flight) and of course the boarding through the rear stairs. Furthermore was it the first and only 727 flight I got in my life. Something interesting: I remember that we landed in Dusseldorf in the late evening, my father asked a flight attendant if they stay overnight but she said: "No, now Frankfurt, then on to Tunis" while looking like .

By the way, here is on of the planes we flew on, old "Tunis Air" spelling and old livery :


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Photo © Alastair T. Gardiner - WorldAirImages



Patrick

[Edited 2007-10-23 16:17:48]

User currently offlinePlaneHunter From Germany, joined Mar 2006, 6811 posts, RR: 77
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 10690 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 20):
"Watt wolln'se zu trink'n hab'n?".

Interestingly, all my flights on LH (mainline, CityLine & Regional) have been enjoyable lately - friendly crews, professional service. So I can't complain any longer.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 20):
They should rather display the flight map.

 checkmark 

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 20):
By the way, here is on of the planes we flew on, old "Tunis Air" spelling and old livery

Classic bird!


PH



Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10605 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
Interestingly, all my flights on LH (mainline, CityLine & Regional) have been enjoyable lately - friendly crews, professional service. So I can't complain any longer.

Wow, apparently they have improved, but I will never find it out by myself because I won't board a Lufthansa plane again (I would rather become a Schalke fan  Wink ).

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
Classic bird!

I wish I would know the registration.

Patrick


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10551 times:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 20):
"Watt wolln'se zu trink'n hab'n?".

Interestingly, all my flights on LH (mainline, CityLine & Regional) have been enjoyable lately - friendly crews, professional service. So I can't complain any longer.

Strangely enough, same here - at least on my eternal FRA-ZRH, -VIE and -LHR runs in the last couple of weeks/months: not on the level of LX yet, but closing in... and I can, since too long ago, once again sample OS's shorthaul service next week, which used to be very, very good.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 22):
Wow, apparently they have improved, but I will never find it out by myself because I won't board a Lufthansa plane again (I would rather become a Schalke fan ).

Ok now... let's not go down quite to such a low level...  Wink Big grin



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User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 10545 times:

Thanks for this great trip report, as always an interesting read. Lanzarote seems a great place to go for a vacation. The contrasts between the domestic and international services of JK are all too apparent to the readers - while I have yet to fly JK they have done some charters from CWL on occasion. It once again seems to reflect the dichotomy between the greater numbers of preimum pax on the international flights compared to the domestics.

Indeed, your quiz photo was definitely Gibraltar. The areial views of Barcelona Port were also great and brought back memories of my 2005 trip to the great city. Thanks you PlaneHunter.

TrinToCan.



Hop to it, fly for life!
25 PlaneHunter : Thanks for your comment, TrinToCan. Approach to and departure from BCN is often a pleasure - some years back I was invited to a jumpseat landing and I
26 The777Man : Excellent trip report PlaneHunter! You need to start planning a trip to SoCal again to visit me so we can go spotting here again! Take Care The777Man
27 Post contains images Sabena332 : Lieber ein Stehplatz auf Schalke als ein Sitzplatz in der Lufthansa Business Class. Patrick
28 Post contains images Leskova : Guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree on that one... ... at least there's free coffee in one of them, and it ain't Schalke...
29 Post contains images PlaneHunter : Thanks for your new comments - just came back from my Japan trip, so I couldn't reply earlier. Definitely yes, probably next year! PH
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