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Aloha From Top To Average RNO-HNL In F  
User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2127 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8094 times:

Aloha RNO-SNA-HNL First Class Oct 11, 2007

Aloha Airlines: From Top to Average – the slowly disappearance of the Spirit of Aloha

Dear all,

Here is another trip report and as I need to head to Honolulu for the Alaska Airlines’ inaugural flight, I decide to redeem my lone 60,000 Aloha miles, accumulated throughout the past five years and also applying and using the Aloha airlines’ Mastercard. The only routing available is Reno to Honolulu on the date that I want, so I don’t really have a choice. The booking process requires a call to Aloha Airlines’ call center, which is actually quite pleasant, Wait time is okay and the agent was knowledgeable, helpful, polite, and thorough.

A little bit history between Aloha Airlines and me:
For some reasons, I always like Aloha Airlines, and when I first flew them from Oakland, CA to Honolulu in first class, it was really nice and definitely one of the best flights I have taken. Back then, the flight attendants were motivated and there was a really nice menu, and the meal was designed by Alan Wong, and the presentation, quality and quantity of food was amazing. In the main cabin, a full hot meal was served, and the best part was the chocolate chip cookie and milk service prior to arrival in both cabins. The morale was high and the service was good. Therefore, I have always taken a liking of Aloha, but due to various financial issues with Aloha, service has really taken a drastic fall and my last flight was such a disgrace. I am going to write a harsh critic but I also feel sad to see such a good airline being run to the ground, and I only hope my return flight in March next year will see a better crew, which shows some care to the passengers.

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October 11, 2007
AQ 481 RNO-SNA Lv0645 Arr0815 Boeing 737-700 with winglet N741AL
AQ 481 SNA-HNL Lv0900 Arr1201 Boeing 737-700 with winglet N741AL

Best part f the trip – the ground agent at Reno was cheerful and thankful for my business. The whole process took less than a minute and boarding pass was printed out and gate was pointed out. A great start to a not so great flight!

Aloha Airlines uses Concourse C, and our gate this morning was C12, and boarding began at 6;20am, and the agent was helping out passengers with baby to board first, as well as wheel-chaired passengers. The F/As greeted us and I headed towards 1A, and no pre-takeoff beverage was offered on this segment, and the F/As were busy chatting among themselves about their stays at Reno. Announcements were minimal, and the F/As did not even bother to tell us the usual details such as flying time this morning, and “lame” was the word used to describe the first segment.

The second segment was a bit better, as pre-takeoff beverage was finally offered – a choice of OJ or water. The F/As finally woke up a bit to do all the announcements, and I finally got to know our estimated flying time. During the layover at Orange County, I chose to stay on board, as the time was short, and there was not much to do at SNA anyway. The cleaning crew missed out cleaning the whole first class cabin, which was actually not surprising because first, the turnaround time was short, and second, the F/As were all hanging out in the first class cabin, and third, the F/As did not really notice that F cabin was not prepared well. Blankets and pillows were spreading all over row two (row three is fine because no passenger on that row at the first leg). Also for those who are interested, there is no change of pillow and blanket at SNA, so I honestly will not touch those blankets (I actually doubt if they change the pillow covers and blankets at the overnight spot at Reno). I don’t blame the cleaning crew fully because the flight attendants also have the responsibility to warn the cleaning crew because they signed off with the F/As. The F/As were just not “working” this morning. I felt bad for the passengers, who actually mention the scattered pillow and blankets later.

Flight information:
The first leg from Reno to Orange County was rarely straightforward. Door was closed at 6:44am and the load was really light, and then we took off from R/W16R at 6:55am. Flying time was an hour and thirteen minutes with a cruising attitude of 33,000feet. We began our descent at 7:39am and landed on R/W19R at 8:08am and parked at gate 6 a few minutes after.

The second leg from Orange County to Honolulu took five hours and forty-three minutes. Door was closed on time at 9:01am and we pushed back four minutes later, and took off from R/W19R at 9:10am. A very powerful takeoff due to the short runway! We stayed at 36,000feet throughout the whole flight. Descent began at 11:30am Honolulu local time, and landed on R/W8L at 11:53am and parked at gate 52 four minutes later.

Food and Beverage:
Printed menus were passed out, but re-collected!
Seasonal fresh fruit medley with strawberry yogurt

Choice of
Egg Provencal, accompanied by layered eggplant, chicken apple sausage and potato
Crab Cake served with a bordelaise sauce, accompanied by steamed vegetables

The meal is beyond bad, and first, there is no more linen to place on the table and the first course just comes with a tray. To give credits, the fresh fruit plate is pretty nice and the accompanied strawberry yogurt is presented in a ramekin, instead of in the original container, but then I was surprised that no breakfast bread or rolls were served. Just the fruit plate and yogurt, and then my crab cake entrée were just plain awful – I took a bite, which was both salty and spicy. The taste was just not right. And that there was no dessert!. The next course was the chocolate chip cookie served prior to arrival and now there was not even a plate. Just the cookie and a napkin! Bottled waters were also no longer passed out to first class passengers after the brunch.

The whole meal is just a far cry from before!

Flight attendants:
The three flight attendants were simply not there! I really think the level of service was below average and even no longer reflected the Spirit of Aloha. The service was slow, and then the F/As were not thorough and did not follow through with meal and beverage orders. I requested a coach meal because the crab cake was just not filling at all. The F/A explained that the Y service was still not complete and she would get back to me. Later I fell asleep and she never got back to me! In the past, the Aloha F/A will always ask if s/he can do more and will ask if I still want the sandwich.

Also, galley chats were exceedingly loud especially when some of the non-rev passengers decide to keep the F/A occupied while she was preparing brunch in the galley. I really don’t mind them talking, but not loudly. How loud was it? I was wearing my BOSE noise-canceling headset listening to my ipod, and yet I can clearly hear the conversation in the galley. The non-revenue passenger was telling the F/A his gambling at Reno and various gambling techniques and which games were the easiest to play! Sharing gambling tips! I hope I am not asking much, but can non-revenue passengers really watch it? The galley is small and the dividing walls are thin.

In conclusion, Aloha Airlines has really suffered much service cutback during its latest financial crises. I am very disappointed with the service and really miss the old good Aloha Spirits. Sadly, it is all gone, and the food in first class is just beyond bad. Even worst than American and United… I really don’t know what more to say, but to say I am really disappointed. Inappropriate non-revenue behavior, “disappearing” F/A, poor food, dirty cabin, and diminishing cabin amenities make this flight really awful! Aloha definitely has much work to do if it wants to go on for another 60 years.

[Edited 2007-10-15 20:30:21]

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User currently offlinePalmjet From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1241 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7868 times:

Thanks for your trip report on these flights.

I would definitely agree with you about the quality of service, at least on the RNO - SNA sector, which I took back in 2005. The take off from RNO was spectacular - at that time of the year, the ground/hills/mountains around the airport covered in snow.

I'd never flown Aloha before and had heard great things about them. I wasn't even flying in First, but I had to say that my experience was certainly pretty average. There was very little in the way of service, although all of the cabin crew were polite - but I got the same feeling - they were not really motivated and did not really suggest that they enjoyed working the flight at all. Even the inflight announcements were delivered in a sterile and unmotivated way.

"Mahalo for flying Aloha" - I wasn't so sure they were.

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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4229 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7617 times:
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Thanks for all of the great trip reports. What a sad sight and shame about your trip on AQ! I hope you'll email AQ headquarters this TR and your experiences on how their service has gone from top notch to unacceptable, negligible. This is truly sad.


User currently offlineSq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7333 times:

Hey Carfield, flew Aloha from HNL to LIH several months ago, got I to say that flight was a pleasant one, constant announcements telling passengers flight info, pointing out scenic highlights along the way. The F/As were great, all very young, and full of smiles. They all had flowers in their hair, and the atmosphere on the plane was really nice. They were piping island music during boarding, and it was great. The guava juice is essentially sugar water, so that was one low point. And the landing was scary to say the least, we landed in a thunderstorm and the plane seemed to dip really low right before landing - even the crew were talking about it as we deplaned.

Hawaiian Airlines, widely credited as the better of the two, was OK at best. They had the hardware in place with their snazzy 717s, but their crew were so bitter and ambivelent - not one smile to be had.

Go! was nice, sole F/A was a real pleasure, and I was fine with no service for the 18 minute hop.

Great Report by the way!

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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 30074 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7279 times:

Shame the experience was not better . Still I enjoyed the photos.

Thanks for sharing


User currently offlineMauiman31 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 6929 times:
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Enjoyed your report and the great pictures. Thank you. Had always been curious about Aloha FC service - mainland to Hawaii. Over the past ten years we have sat up front with AA, DL, and TW to HNL and OGG. From our experience the crew can make such a difference even if other things are below par and vary from a previous trip. Occaisionally we have had a FC crew that seemed tired, aloof or rushed the service (our preception) so they could sit down. But, we have also encountered more frequently, wonderful professionals who are warm, friendly, engaging and go the extra step to make their company's FC experience a special one. Sounds like you have experienced scenarios both with Aloha.

User currently offlinePualani From United States of America, joined May 2004, 304 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 6252 times:

Carfield, why don't you make the drive out to Sacramento and try HA's first class service to HNL? I can guarantee that the f/a's wont be talking about gambling as there is nothing to do on our layovers in SMF but sleep !!! Seriously...try our service...you may be surprised in a good way.


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2127 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6007 times:

Well I am flying AQ because I need to use up my last 60,000 AQ miles...

I flew in and out of RNO because of their limited availability... not that I particularly like or dislike... I usually want to try new airports... hehe...

That is the only reason why I fly AQ...

I flew HA before and it was a nice airline...


User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17771 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5652 times:

Great TR.

The pics are very good. Thank you for them.

Really bad that you didn't enjoyed your flights with Aloha Airlines. It is really sad when airlines has to cut back on the service.

Thank you for sharing.


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