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My First Trip Report. DEN-FRA, BRU-FRA-DEN  
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Posted (13 years 1 month 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

A couple of people have asked me to make a trip report of my trip. Well here I go:

On June 15, 2001 I boarded flight number LH447 from Denver (DEN) to Frankfurt (FRA) on a Lufthansa A340-313X. This would be the first time I fly on the A340, so I was quite excited. After I checked it, I went on the underground train from the Main Terminal to Concourse A. Then I went to gate A41 which is one of the four gates at Denver Int'l for international bounding flights. When it was time for boarding, I went to seat number 26K, I got a great view of the wing. We got moving about 30 minutes late, because we were waiting for some passengers who got to the airport late. The take-off schedueled time was 5:35PM, but we took off at around 6:00PM. When we started taxiing, I noticed that we were going to a different runway then the runway that I usually take off from (Runway 16/34), then I realized that we were taxiing to Runway 7/25 which is the only runway in Denver that faces the mountains. I was absolutely thrilled to take-off from this runway, as I have never tooken off from it before. When we were on the runway, the pilot instantly went full power, we didn't stop on the runway and wait for permission from the control tower, the plane slowly started accelerating, and I was surprised at what a slow take-off it was, then the nose slowly went off the ground, and we stayed on the rear wheels or about 7 to 10 seconds, then the plane slowly started to climb into the air. I got a great view of Denver, and off-course the beautiful Rocky mountains. The take-off was surprisingly smooth, there were a few light bumps, but it was nothing. We started to head a little bit towards the west, and then we made a wide turn and started to head Northeast, I saw many of the big reservoirs after we turned. When it was Dinner time, I had pasta and a Coke. The pasta was quite good. I completely forgot what they gave us for breakfast.
We flew over Nebraska, Iowa, then right over Minneapolis/St. Paul in Minnesota. We then flew over into Canada, and I saw Lake Superior, then we flew through most of Canada, over Quebec, and then we were over the ocean, then we flew over the southern tip of Greenland, and then it was the ocean again, we then flew over Scotland. We then entered into mainland Europe, flew over the Netherlands, then into Germany and landed in Frankfurt at around 11:00AM (I forgot the exact time). Most of the flight was quite smooth, occasionally over Canada, and the Atlantic ocean it got a little bumpy, but it was nothing. When we started to decend, we encountered some light bumps. We then made several wide banks and turns over Frankfurt, and we finally leveled off. The pilot then deployed some flaps, and the runway was right infront of us. I got to see downtown Frankfurt and all its high rises. We decended slowly over the Autobahn and DB's train tracks, and then we finally touched down on Runway 25R. The minute we touched down, the pilot deployed all of the spoilers on the wing, however, I did not hear the thrust reversers. Either the thrust reversers are very quiet, or the thrust reversers weren't used, or the pilot used Idle Thrust Reverse. After we landed we taxied to gate A43 I believe, I'm not 100% sure though. Even though the take-off from Denver was about 30 min. late, we arrived in Frankfurt on time. The whole flight took about 8 hours and 30 minutes. After I got off the plane, I went through the airport, collected my baggage, went through passport control, and then hopped on a Regional train bound for Frankfurt Main Station. I toured Germany, Czech Republic, Austria, Switzerland, Luxembourg, and Belgium by train.

When it was time to leave. On July 22, 2001 I flew from Brussels (BRU) on flight number LH4443 to Frankfurt (FRA). When I arrived in Brussels Airport (BRU) on a Lufthansa 737-300, I checked in, went through passport control, had a Belgian Waffle and a cup of tea for breakfast, and went to gate C02 which is in the old part of Brussels airport. The take-off was supposed to be 8:35AM, but for some reason, the flight was delayed, and we started boarding 8:35AM. Nonetheless, boarding was finished quickly, and we began taxiing to Runway 25R. It was a long taxi, and we went past the cargo facilities. When we almost reached the runway, the pilot deployed the flaps. Once we were on the runway, we waited there for permission to take-off, it only took about a minute. Then, the pilot slowly started to ease the throttle up to maybe 40% power, and then pushed it all the way to 100% power. I felt myself get pushed back into the seat because he accelerated quickly. Like all 737 take-offs we started to roll down the runway quickly, and lifted into the air quickly. The plane quickly started to climb into the air and we went south for a little, and then we turned in a South East East direction, and I saw the whole airport including all the runways. It was quite a nice airport. The flight crew said the flight would be 40 minutes. Then the pilot came on the intercom, and said the flight would be only 30 minutes! They gave us a small sandwhich, which I kept for later since I just had a delicious Belgian waffle at the airport. We quickly began decending into Frankfurt. It got a little bumpy around Frankfurt, but nothing major. The pilot deployed the flaps while we were still high, when we just began decending. The pilot had a hard time alligning with the runway, so it was a fun, shaky experience. We touched down on Runway 25R, the spoilers where deployed, and a little thrust reverse was used. We quickly came to a stop, and we taxiied on the tarmac to a parking area, where a bus was waiting to pick us up. I went down the staircase onto the bus which was extremely cramped, and they took us to the arrival area in Terminal 1. We arrived about 15 minutes late, at 9:40AM, but it wasn't a problem, since my connecting flight to Denver was at 1:05PM. I found Frankfurt Airport (FRA) to be a bit confusing, but I managed. I took the underground walkway to the A gates, and went to gate A60 for flight number LH446 on a Lufthansa A340-300 back to Denver. We began boarding at 12:30PM. My seat number was 45A which is the 2nd to last row in the plane, so yes, I had I noisy experience, but I was happy! I love aircraft noise! Its music to me.  Smile
While I was sitting in the plane, the captain comes over the intercom and said that one of the passengers did not board the flight, so they had to unload the luggage from that person for safety reasons. The take-off was late about 30 min. We were pushed back, and then we began taxiing to Runway 25R. Once we were on the runway, the pilot instantly went full throttle, and we started moving, the acceleration was quite slow, then the nose went off the ground, and we stayed on the rear to wheels for about 7 to 10 seconds. We slowly started to climb into the air, and it got a little turbulent until we reached cruising altitude. I really was quite surprised, it took about the same time to take-off as it took while taking-off from Denver. I thought the take-off would quicker since we were close to sea level, and it was cool outside, but they turned out to be about the same, taking off from Denver took a tad longer. We went over the Netherlands, and flew right over Amsterdam, I then saw Amsterdam Schiphol (AMS), and saw a plane taking off from one of the runways. We then flew over the English Channel, over Scotland, and then over the Atlantic ocean. When it was time for lunch, I had pasta which was quite delicious. We flew over Greenland, over Canada, and then crossed the boarder into the United States. We flew right over Minneapolis/St. Paul, and I saw the airport. I was quite happy that I saw 2 airports from the sky, I usually never see any airports while flying. Most of the flight was clear, and I could see the ground. When it was time for dinner, I had pasta aswell, also delicious, but I'm surprised they gave us 2 pasta meals on the flight. We then flew over Iowa, and Nebraska and then over Colorado. We began our decent between the borders of Nebraska and Colorado. After the city of Sterling (a small city in Northeast Colorado), we encountered turbulence, from that moment, I new that we were in Colorado. Every landing I have had in Colorado was turbulent. After we got close to the mountains, the turbulence became quite bad, the plane would go up and then all of a sudden drop about 100-200 feet, a lot of people on the flight were getting nervous. When we were over Denver airport, we were still quite high, so we had to go a southernly direction for quite a bit. We almost reached Colorado Springs, then the pilot turned north again, and the pilot alligned the plane with the runway. It was still extremely bumpy as we decended. The pilot then deployed the flaps We then touched down on Runway 35L, the pilot then deployed the spoilers and thrust reversers. He used quite a bit of thrust reversing power, because we touched down at quite a high speed. Several people began clapping because he brought the plane down safely during quite bad turbulence. The flight took 10 hours. We then taxied to gate A41, I got off the plane, went through passport control, collected my baggage, and went through customs.

Flying from Denver to Frankfurt took 8 hours and 30 minutes. Flying from Frankfurt to Denver took 10 hours! Always when flying to Europe from Denver, it is much faster because of the tail wind, while when you are flying to Denver from Europe, it takes longer because of the headwind (the wind is against you). What I also noticed, is coming from Europe to Denver, pilots always take a more northernly route to cut down on as much time as possible. Frankfurt to Denver, is the longest flight I have had, 10 hours......even though it didn't feel all that long  Smile. We arrived right on time, at 3:35PM Denver time.

Out of all my landings in Denver, this was the most turbulent landing I have ever had. Infact, I have never experienced this much turbulence on a jet aircraft.

When I was 5, I flew from LGA to Rochester, New York on a EMB-120 Brasilia, and it was the most turbulent flight I had ever experienced. It was the ONLY time, where I almost vomitted. The flight attendent fell because of how bumpy it was. The plane dropped about 500-800 feet once.

Landing in Denver has always been turbulent because of the mountains. The mountains create very un-even and unstable currents, which is why it is always bumpy, however, this was the bumpiest it has ever been, and the bumpiest that it has ever been on a jet aircraft for me.

I wasn't scared though, although many others were.  Smile

Hehe, incase your wondering, this trip report took me 1 1/2 hours to write up.  Smile

Regards.


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
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User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2580 times:


Thanks for this detailed trip report !
Could you tell me how the loads on your flights were ?
WOuld be nice to know.

Thanks,
B737-700


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

B737-700,

The Brussels (BRU) - Frankfurt (FRA) was mostly full. There were a couple empty seats, but nothing that should cause the airline to lose any profit.

The flight from Frankfurt (FRA) to Denver (DEN), and the flight from Denver (DEN) to Frankfurt (FRA) were completely full. I walked through the whole plane several times, and did not find a single empty seat.

Regards.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2560 times:


That's great news that the DEN flight is going good ! But also we have to consider that it's summer time !
Thanks !!

B737-700


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

My sister flew to Frankfurt and back in April aswell, and said the flight was completely full.

Lufthansa's A340-300's only seat about 250-260 passengers, which is quite little.

Regards.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2549 times:

Denver sure did need the flight to Frankfurt.

Before the flight began, most travelers who were flying out of Denver to a international city were flying to Frankfurt, but had to make connections in Chicago, New York, or another major city.

This has been a long awaited flight. Lufthansa or United were planning on starting this service 5 years ago, but it never materialized until now.

What Denver needs now is a flight to Asia. Last year Japan Airlines announced that they would eventually start a service to Denver from Tokyo, it'll be 1-2 years before we hear anything new.

Regards.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

A Very good Trip Report !!!

Greetings from Germany

Patrick


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

Grrrrreeeeaat!

Anyway, glad to see that I'm not the only one who find FRA confusing. Last time I went there, I think I entered and exited Germany 3 or 4 times trying t find my way to Korean Air's check-in booth.


User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2504 times:


lol, I don't think FRA is that confusing. There are many signs which lead you the way and I think they are even seperated in colors, etc.
So actually FRA is doing pretty good here I think.

Cheers,
B737-700


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

That was very good BA.

I think you've had 777 trips as well; how does the 777 stack up to the A340-300 overall, or vice-versa?

See any icefields in the Arctic Circle?

Sleep any?

In flight entertainment?

Great report - DIA




Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2490 times:

Finally the complements come after three days!  Big grin

Thanks for all the complements guys.

DIA,
Yes, I've flown on the 777 three times.
I personally, prefer the 777. I found it to be much more spacious, and in many ways felt more comfortable. The A340 is still a great aircraft though.

I did see a few ice bergs around the tips of Greenland, but that was about it. Global Warming is beginning to show I guess.  Big grin

From Denver to Frankfurt, I dosed off for about 15 minutes.  Smile
That was it though. On the return, I didn't get any sleep.

Denver - Frankfurt, they put sports, news, Disney classic cartoons, and they put a Little Mermaid episode. After, they put the movie Anti-Trust, and then Miss Congeniality.
Frankfurt - Denver, they put sports, news, Disney classic cartoons, and they put a Little Mermaid episode. After, they put the movie See Spot Run, and then The Wedding Planner.

Overall, it was a great flight.

Regards.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2468 times:

Ok, maybe FRA is not as complicated, but when you havent' slept for 30 hours, you're not really fit for fight, eh?

User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2467 times:


Right, CPH-R but it was worse to find Terminal 2F from 1D at CDG.
 Big thumbs up

Fighting yourself through new airports is just fun !

B737-700


User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2447 times:

Frankfurt Airport,

Nice viewers' terrace, but horrible signage for a hub in Europe, with really, quite stupid signs such as "andere Richtungen" (was bedeutet das?) - other directions, pffft!

Not a bad report, but it would be easier to read if you paragraphed  Smile

Cheers,

Justin


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