The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6706 posts, RR: 55 Posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Date: 8 November 2007
Route: New York (JFK) %u2013 Mumbai (BOM)
Flight: AI 140
Flight Time: 13:43h
Dep. Time: 21:30
Aircraft: Boeing 777-200/LR
Dep. Gate: A 4 (T4)
I arrived from Washington around 13:00 and did some spotting mostly at Terminal 1 before heading to Terminal 4 to check in with Air India. I got there at about 16:25 and was told that check in for AI 140 would be open in about five minutes. All the signs were with the new AI logo and separate counters for the two flights (the other being a flight to LHR, DEL and ATQ). The people collecting passport information also tagged the carry on with tags saying Nonstop.
The line for check in was short but the agents at the front had to deal with issues for the other flight so it took about 30 minutes to check in. The agent gave me a choice of seats which is always nice when flying stand by and I got a window seat. I went thru security and headed to the gate right way. I did some spotting from the end of the concourse by gate A6. Even though it was dark I was able to get some interesting numbers like EuroFly 332 and Emirates 77W.
Boarding started already at 20:00, about 90 minutes before departure (!!) which is very early. Most airlines board not more than 45-60 minutes before departure and I decided to board early. There were not many people on board and boarding even after boarding was completed at about 21:10. Even though the door closed at about 21:15, we sat and waited for push back until departure time.
The aircraft was very nice; nice legroom with foot rest, seat was comfortable. The PTV screen was large. There was also a bag at with a water bottle at every seat. The flight attendants distributed amenity kits containing socks, shades, ear plugs and mouth wash. Later, a small flashlight was passed out as well to each passenger as an extra amenity. A bit odd but nice to have when the plane would be darkened most of the flight and not to many lights so that people can sleep. Menus were also handed out and a drink service started as well before we pushed back. I had three seats for myself and there were sadly not more than 40-50 people in Economy class on this flight. Very nice for me with three seats for myself which meant I could get some nice sleep later. The safety demonstration was done by the flight attendants in person; not on a video.
There were still a lot of departures at JFK at time of night so we did not take off until 22:15. While taxing the flight attendants gave us a cold refreshing towel; most airlines give a hot towel but nice nonetheless. The outside forward camera were also on at this time which was nice. The flight attendants were mostly young and were beautiful, not the old women that I heard are so common on AI. They were very friendly and had nice saris on in different colors. Very nice.
Take off was very powerful with the engines of the -300/ER but only the length of a -200. Our light load helped as well and we were soon in the air. The airshow map only showed metric scale and were a 9300m in 20 minutes after take off. Dinner was served 30 minutes after take off with the drinks offered after the meal, not during. I had Hydrabadi Gosht Korma (succulent pieces of lamb cooked in spicy gravy served with Navratan Pulao) which also came with a salad, rice, yoghurt, paratha and papad. For desert Semiya Malai (vermicelli cooked in a sweetened milk and garnished with nuts) and tea. The dinner was excellent; perfect spicy and very nice bread, a bit sweeter than a regular bun. Mood lightning was on shortly after dinner.
I started to watch explore the entertainment options and they were many. The headsets were great; what you get in C or F on other airlines, great sound. I watched A Good Year, Catch & Release before I decided to sleep. Air India has a separate entertainment magazine entitled Non-stop entertainment and they showcase very well the different movies, TV programs, music and games. The system has AVOD (Audio Video On Demand) and was okay to operate but could be a bit more user friendly. Audio selection was lacking a bit in my opinion but they do have a lot of Indian music but I don't really care for that since I'm not Indian.
I slept for about four-five hours before I woke up and watched Casablanca with Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bergman, one of my favorite movies. It's nice that some airlines offer classic movies as well as the newer ones. Soon after there was time for breakfeast and which came with fruit juice, oven fresh breads and fresh fruit. Very nice. We had made it to 11300m at this time.
I slept some more and about 90 minutes before arrival lunch was served and I had Roast Sliced Leg of Lamb with Red Wine and Mushroom sauce. I was so hungry that I forgot to take a picture before I ate...It came with roast potatoes, yoghurt and papad as well as a fruit tartlet for desert. This lunch was almost better than the dinner and again the drink service was about ten minutes before the meal but with water offered during the meal.
Service was excellent and at one time during the flight, a middle aged Indian man shouted to the purser: This is excellent service!! This is really excellent service!! I couldn't agree more.
The flight attendants came around several times during the flight offering water which was nice. We circled Mumbai for about 15 minutes due to traffic and later saw fireworks just before we touched down, this due to the Devali (??) holiday. Cabin was sprayed before arrival. We had a smooth landing and a quick taxi to the gate.
Routing was over Boston, south of Iceland, London, Amsterdam, Budapest, Timisoara, Constanza, Trabzon, north of Tehran, Zahedi, Karachi straight to Mumbai.
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2696 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
I've been waiting to read a report of this flight for some time, so it was nice to finally see one. Very good report; I enjoyed the pictures. It looks like AI finally stepped into the 21st century! Will you be making the return journey on AI as well?
Semsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
I flew on an Air India 707 in 1968 to New York from London and back. The service was also excellent, including the meals. I was very impressed that even before take off, they served orange juice. I think it is the only airline that does that in economy class. However I read a lot of complaints about them. Nice to see something positive.
My father flew on an Air India Constellation from Rome to Cairo in the 1940s.
There have been rumors that AI will be joining Star Alliance soon. So that will be offer a lot of connections within USA.
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter): I had three seats for myself and there were sadly not more than 40-50 people in Economy class on this flight.
For that big of a plane, that number is very very low. Especially during this time of year when everyone wants to go back for the festivals and of course the marriage season But it must have been nice for those 40-50 people to have 3 rows to themselves to sleep properly during the flight
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6706 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Thanks for all the nice comments!
My return was on 9W 77W BOM-LHR and trip report for that should be ready in an hour or two.
Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 17): Can you shed some light on pricing relative to JFK-LHR-BOM on AI and other carriers. I keep reading reports that AI has chosen to keep the prices at a premium on the non-stop.
I have no idead about pricing but can look into this at work, perhaps tomorrow. I flew on a ID 90 ticket (staff).
AIs new image looks better than its tattered leased fleet, how would u compare them to DL CO or even NW and UA?
Loads in F and J were probably half full ?
I would rate AI 77L higher than all the US carriers in Y and probably on par with SQ, EK and EY. There are more options for entertainment on those carriers but AI makes that up by being more friendly and with more personal service. The flights I have taken on those carriers, the flights have been more full and it makes a big difference.
Quoting Vio (Reply 12): And it's actually Constanta. Well the last "t" is a special character that you read "tz".
Thanks ! I didn't exactly remenber the correct spelling.
Quoting Door5right (Reply 10): Most unusual. I have never heard of such an amenity before.
Yes, very unusual. I have never seen this before either.
Again, thanks for all the comments!
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
Ronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1675 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:
Quoting The777Man (Reply 23): I wonder that myself. Perhaps a lack of connections at JFK from a partner ? Joining the Star Alliance would be very good for AI and the Star Alliance and should improve loads on the flights.
True. Or maybe they need to offer fares that compete directly with EY and EK (if they dont already).
A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
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: I have to say that I'm happy to hear that. As a person with reservations background, I truly despise consolidators and I'm glad that AI is selling th
: Those were the heydays of AI, when they were actually rated as one of the best in the world for service....the decline started from the 80's onwards.
: Nice TR, The pics are really great. How many 777s have you been in?? Thank you for sharing. B747forever.
: Great Tr and photo's as always, a real nice read. I have heard the loads on this flight are poor, this pretty much confirms this, though your fligh wa
: = WOW. Thats a pretty strong endorsement for AI. I don't think even the AI 'babus' are ready for all the accolades in this thread. Seriously though,
: Thanks for all the comments! 41! Take Care The777Man
: I think the babus is dead. With the new managment of Thulasides and merger with Indian, the new Air India will again be a world class airline. You ar
: Another nice report, Lars. AI is definitely a carrier to try, and their new 777s seem to be the perfect choice for that. Good to see they care about c
: Nice one Lars. Amazingly Empty.Guess the return leg must have been full. regds MEL
: Thanks for the trip report! I have been searching for the report since long time. I will be on that flight one week from today.
: Thank you for another excellent trip report. Were you allowed to look out the window at all, or did the flight attendants keep the window shades down
: that wont help at JFk, they have to move the flight to IAD
: You should have a great flight but I would expect it to be more full at that time of year. Nobody really looked out the window. I peeked thru a few t
: I've never had good service with AI, even in J or F! The food has always been bad, and I remember, before they had the built in TV's, they had portabl