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User currently offlineYankees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 86 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 24959 times:

March 17, 2007
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Pre Flight: After dropping off the rental car at the parking lots I got on the Airtrain and headed to the American Airlines terminal.

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International Terminal

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Control Tower

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AA MD-80's - Anyone know what that B727 is out there?

I was headed back to New York after a three day vacation in California. On March 16 the New York area had a huge snowstorm and many flights out of JFK were cancelled. Anyhow on March 17 it turns out my flight was the only AA flight to JFK that wouldnt be cancelled. The inbound flight had departed terminal 8 so I was hoping that it would be configured with the new business class seats. Check in was easy at the terminal. Is there any plans for American to renovate the terminal because it is old? I headed to the Admirals Club where I took some pictures of AA aircraft and United Aircraft.

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Empty gate

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AA MD-80 from LAX

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At 2:45PM boarding started for the flight and I headed to gate 65 where our 767 was waiting.
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Inflight:
Airline: American Airlines
Flight: 178
Route: San Francisco International - New York Kennedy Airport
Boarding Time: 2:45PM
Departure Time: 3:15PM
Aircraft: Boeing 767-300ER
Seat: 5A (First Class)
Deaprture Gate: 65
Arrival Gate: 38
Crew: San Francisco Based

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After walking down the jetway and into the aircraft I was really happy because it was the new configuration.

New Business Seats:

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I sat down in seat 5A and right after that one of the coach FA's came by to take our coats even before people in coach started boarding.

Views of the wing

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The usual orange juice, champange, and water was passed out after the door was closed along with menus. The menu read:

LUNCH
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To Start:

Warm mixed nuts

SALAD:

Seasonal mized greens offered with a creamy Parmesan Peppercorn Dressing or Castello Monte Vibiano Olive Oil and Balsamic Vinegar.

BREAD BASKET:

Assorted gourmet breads

ENTREES:

Seared Salmon:
A seared salmon fillet served cold on a bed of noodles and enhanced by a Jalapeno and Papaya Relish

or

Roasted Chicken and Swiss Sandwich:
Roasted chicken and swiss swiss cheese offered on ciabatta bread accented by Chipotle Ranch Spread, served with fresh seasonal greens and a dressing of your choice

DESSERT:

Dulce de Leche Ice Cream topped with a turtle brownie and raspberry sauce

or

Fruit and cheese: a selection of fruit and fine organic cheeses

TO FINISH

Ghirardelli Chocolates

or

Otis Spunkermeyer cookies baked on a board


PRE ARRIVAL BEVERAGE

Chilled sparking water with a fruit garnish

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In all the menu looked a lot better than the one I had coming to LAX. Takeoff was on runway 1R and we climbed over San Francisco Bay and over Oakland.

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Twenty minutes after takeoff the three were nice and young FA's came around with a beverage service and the usual American Airlines warm nuts. I had a cranberry ginerale.

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The FA's late came around with the meal cart and I choose the sandwich. All I have to say was that it was much better than the horrible one I had coming to LA.

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The inflight movie was the new rocky but I choose to sleep instead. The new seats are ok from my point of view. They are a little thin and I dont like how the seat goes flat at an angle. Also I really didnt like it how they took out the IFE screens for domestic flights. In my opinion AA should leave them on all the time.

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About two and a half hours outside of New York the FA's came around with dessert. I had ice cream and after that they came around with the chocolate chip cookies but I decided to pass. The air throughout the flight was a tiny bit choppy but nothing to much. About 15 minutes outside of NY the FA's came around to collect any trash. Touchdown was smooth and we pulled up to gate 38 at the new terminal. There was only one departing flight left and that was the flight to London. Anyhow the terminal was a ghost down and surprisingly most of the gates were open.

Anyhow I would give the crew a 8/10 and the flight a 9/10. The crew did a good job and made sure the passengers had a good flight. The cabin was clean and the seats were in good shape. Anyhow I would definately flight AA to SFO again but would fly Virgin America to LAX now that they have begun service.

Comments are welcome:


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User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3082 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 24863 times:

Cue the countown until certain members come about saying the food looks "atrocious" and "not good."

All in all looks like a decent product, however I think PTV's should've been installed along with the new F layout.



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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 24778 times:



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 1):
Cue the countown until certain members come about saying the food looks "atrocious" and "not good."

lol.......for F class on a transcon, it looks pretty pathetic


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 24643 times:

That sandwhich looks atrocious and I can't fathom the thought of it being good.


The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
User currently offlineAgnusBymaster From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 24621 times:

No ptvs on the 767-300 even in business??

User currently offlineTriple7man From Thailand, joined May 2005, 742 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 24521 times:
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The new business class seats look nice but I'm surprised there is not a video monitor at each seat. Does this also apply to the international flights?


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User currently offlineYankees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 24503 times:

The PTV's are only put in for international


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User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 24304 times:

I took that same flight, in January. Same aircraft, 767-300ER with the new business cabin. I thought the cabin looked OK, though cheap in feel, but those seats turned out to be very comfortable and the service quite good. Efficient, pleasant, and business like.

The forward cabin has the new interior, which goes back to the mini-economy cabin on the -300, then it reverts to the old style, boxy look.


User currently offlineYankees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 24299 times:

is all the 767-300's now configured with the new business class?


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User currently offlineFreckles From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2007, 386 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 24259 times:



Quoting Yankees (Reply 6):
The PTV's are only put in for international

I can't understand why...take Virgin America in coach and you can have some IFE.


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 23980 times:



Quoting Yankees (Reply 6):
The PTV's are only put in for international

So they physically remove them after an international flight? That seems like a waste of time. For what purpose?

The sandwich doesn't look that bad. Not a glamorous F class meal, but certainly edible (and not a snack basket).


User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4006 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 23936 times:
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Yankees thanks for the informative TR.
You know you'll get a much better meal in F on VX compared to AA. I thought they were improving their catering? It looks like a bad joke. UA "p.s." wins on this route for service and catering.

What's up with removing the IFE when these international 763 birds are doing domestic? Talk about frugal! I feel that's insultive as well to paying premium cabin passengers.

LACA773


User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2016 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 23891 times:

Thanks for sharing! Those AA business seats look tiny! Good luck to them but the bad choice. It is also interesting to see that the headrests were not put back in their original position by the F/A's. Just drives home the point that F/A's in the US know nothing about service and presentation.

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3082 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 23873 times:



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 2):
F class on a transcon

Is never really that great. However, it is not what some members would have you believe.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 3):

Watch it bud!



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 23779 times:

I just flew ORD-SFO on an AA 763 (see posted trip report) and I thought the seats were great. The lie-flat position was comfortable enough for me to sleep, which is a rare thing for me to do on an airplane. The seats were sort of narrow but the padding was good. It was a very comfortable way to fly.

User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17063 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 23607 times:

Nice TR.

The pics are really good.

The food could be better actually, and AA should consider to have PTVs at least in Business Class on longer domestic flights.

However great that you enjoyed your flight with AA.

Thank you for sharing.

B747forever.



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User currently offlineAgnusBymaster From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 23196 times:

Isn't the "PTV" they put in on international flights really just a Digeplayer type device?

User currently offlineMauiman31 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 22984 times:
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Great report. Beautiful pictures. Thanks!

Yes. Dig player similar. And an AA Captain buddy tells me they are not loading them domestically to reduce weight. I hope they will reconsider this on transcon and Hawaii service.


User currently offlineJyatlantic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 22402 times:

Again, for transcon service, AA is not up to standards, even if this is not their flagship 3-cabin flight. UA has definitely overtaken AA in the catering department.

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