Yankees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 86 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 23481 times:
March 17, 2007
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Pre Flight: After dropping off the rental car at the parking lots I got on the Airtrain and headed to the American Airlines terminal.
International Terminal
Control Tower
AA MD-80's - Anyone know what that B727 is out there?
I was headed back to New York after a three day vacation in California. On March 16 the New York area had a huge snowstorm and many flights out of JFK were cancelled. Anyhow on March 17 it turns out my flight was the only AA flight to JFK that wouldnt be cancelled. The inbound flight had departed terminal 8 so I was hoping that it would be configured with the new business class seats. Check in was easy at the terminal. Is there any plans for American to renovate the terminal because it is old? I headed to the Admirals Club where I took some pictures of AA aircraft and United Aircraft.
Empty gate
AA MD-80 from LAX
At 2:45PM boarding started for the flight and I headed to gate 65 where our 767 was waiting.
Inflight:
Airline: American Airlines
Flight: 178
Route: San Francisco International - New York Kennedy Airport
Boarding Time: 2:45PM
Departure Time: 3:15PM
Aircraft: Boeing 767-300ER
Seat: 5A (First Class)
Deaprture Gate: 65
Arrival Gate: 38
Crew: San Francisco Based
Seasonal mized greens offered with a creamy Parmesan Peppercorn Dressing or Castello Monte Vibiano Olive Oil and Balsamic Vinegar.
BREAD BASKET:
Assorted gourmet breads
ENTREES:
Seared Salmon:
A seared salmon fillet served cold on a bed of noodles and enhanced by a Jalapeno and Papaya Relish
or
Roasted Chicken and Swiss Sandwich:
Roasted chicken and swiss swiss cheese offered on ciabatta bread accented by Chipotle Ranch Spread, served with fresh seasonal greens and a dressing of your choice
DESSERT:
Dulce de Leche Ice Cream topped with a turtle brownie and raspberry sauce
or
Fruit and cheese: a selection of fruit and fine organic cheeses
TO FINISH
Ghirardelli Chocolates
or
Otis Spunkermeyer cookies baked on a board
PRE ARRIVAL BEVERAGE
Chilled sparking water with a fruit garnish
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In all the menu looked a lot better than the one I had coming to LAX. Takeoff was on runway 1R and we climbed over San Francisco Bay and over Oakland.
Twenty minutes after takeoff the three were nice and young FA's came around with a beverage service and the usual American Airlines warm nuts. I had a cranberry ginerale.
The FA's late came around with the meal cart and I choose the sandwich. All I have to say was that it was much better than the horrible one I had coming to LA.
The inflight movie was the new rocky but I choose to sleep instead. The new seats are ok from my point of view. They are a little thin and I dont like how the seat goes flat at an angle. Also I really didnt like it how they took out the IFE screens for domestic flights. In my opinion AA should leave them on all the time.
About two and a half hours outside of New York the FA's came around with dessert. I had ice cream and after that they came around with the chocolate chip cookies but I decided to pass. The air throughout the flight was a tiny bit choppy but nothing to much. About 15 minutes outside of NY the FA's came around to collect any trash. Touchdown was smooth and we pulled up to gate 38 at the new terminal. There was only one departing flight left and that was the flight to London. Anyhow the terminal was a ghost down and surprisingly most of the gates were open.
Anyhow I would give the crew a 8/10 and the flight a 9/10. The crew did a good job and made sure the passengers had a good flight. The cabin was clean and the seats were in good shape. Anyhow I would definately flight AA to SFO again but would fly Virgin America to LAX now that they have begun service.
JetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2964 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 23385 times:
Cue the countown until certain members come about saying the food looks "atrocious" and "not good."
All in all looks like a decent product, however I think PTV's should've been installed along with the new F layout.
Evan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 23165 times:
That sandwhich looks atrocious and I can't fathom the thought of it being good.
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
AgnusBymaster From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 649 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 23143 times:
Yankees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 86 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 23025 times:
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 22826 times:
I took that same flight, in January. Same aircraft, 767-300ER with the new business cabin. I thought the cabin looked OK, though cheap in feel, but those seats turned out to be very comfortable and the service quite good. Efficient, pleasant, and business like.
The forward cabin has the new interior, which goes back to the mini-economy cabin on the -300, then it reverts to the old style, boxy look.
Yankees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 86 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 22821 times:
is all the 767-300's now configured with the new business class?
LACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3749 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 22458 times:
Yankees thanks for the informative TR.
You know you'll get a much better meal in F on VX compared to AA. I thought they were improving their catering? It looks like a bad joke. UA "p.s." wins on this route for service and catering.
What's up with removing the IFE when these international 763 birds are doing domestic? Talk about frugal! I feel that's insultive as well to paying premium cabin passengers.
Coal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1627 posts, RR: 6 Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 22413 times:
Thanks for sharing! Those AA business seats look tiny! Good luck to them but the bad choice. It is also interesting to see that the headrests were not put back in their original position by the F/A's. Just drives home the point that F/A's in the US know nothing about service and presentation.
Cheers Coal
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JetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2964 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 22395 times:
MSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6242 posts, RR: 51 Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 22301 times:
I just flew ORD-SFO on an AA 763 (see posted trip report) and I thought the seats were great. The lie-flat position was comfortable enough for me to sleep, which is a rare thing for me to do on an airplane. The seats were sort of narrow but the padding was good. It was a very comfortable way to fly.
B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16575 posts, RR: 11 Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 22129 times:
Nice TR.
The pics are really good.
The food could be better actually, and AA should consider to have PTVs at least in Business Class on longer domestic flights.
However great that you enjoyed your flight with AA.
AgnusBymaster From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 649 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 21718 times:
Isn't the "PTV" they put in on international flights really just a Digeplayer type device?
Mauiman31 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 434 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 21506 times:
Great report. Beautiful pictures. Thanks!
Yes. Dig player similar. And an AA Captain buddy tells me they are not loading them domestically to reduce weight. I hope they will reconsider this on transcon and Hawaii service.
Jyatlantic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 20924 times:
Again, for transcon service, AA is not up to standards, even if this is not their flagship 3-cabin flight. UA has definitely overtaken AA in the catering department.