My first work trip of the year and this time I was flying to Brisbane. Due to a change to the reporting structure at my work I now reported to Brisbane instead of Melbourne. I was a bit disappointed with this decision as I loved Melbourne and my oldest friend lives there so I was able to visit her often. Also there were several flights a day to Melbourne as opposed to three a day to Brisbane which meant less flexibility in my travel plans.
I drove myself to the airport and planned to stay at the long term car park. Once I had arrived at the airport I followed the signs to the long term car park. Each car park had a sign at the entrance saying car park full follow signs to over flow park. After much driving and following of signs I eventually made it to an available long tern make shift car park miles from the Qantas terminal. The experience was quite frustrating and very stressful. I parked the car and was informed by the nice car park attendant that a complimentary shuttle will transport me and my things to the terminal. Just as well as there was no way I was going to walk there. I only had to wait 1 minute and the shuttle arrived. The driver was very friendly and took care of my bag. He explained to me as to what to do when I arrived back in Perth to get back to my car. During the drive to the terminal I realised how far away I actually parked.
Once we arrived at the terminal I headed straight to the business class bag drop off as I had already checked in online. Bags were dropped off and headed to the Qantas Club. I was hoping to get an up grade on the return flight. But I was informed by the lady manning the counter that was only possible on the day of departure. So it was about an hour till I needed to board so I relaxed in the Qantas club and grabbed myself something eat and something to drink. An announcement was made that due to the late arrival of my flight we would not be boarding till 13:10 with a new departure time of 13;30. Oh well that just gave me extra time to spot planes.
My aircraft eventually landed and I could see as she exited runway 03 she was VH-OGE who I have already flown twice. After this flight, it will be the aircraft I had flown on the most. She docked in gate two and completed the full Qantas line up at the terminal. Qantas really need to expand their domestic terminal. 737-476 VH-TJ# was in gate 1, my 767-338ER VH-OGE was in gate 2, 747-338 VH-EBW was in gate 3 and on the remote stand in gate 4 was 767-336ER VHZXF and next to her in gate 5 was 737-838 VH-VXC and next to her in gate 6 was 717 VH-NXB. The Qantas Club in Perth is ok but it was very busy. They need more and better selection of food and there was not many spare seats around. Qantas will or probably already have out grown this facility by the time the planned expansions are completed.
A call was made in the Qantas club for my flight to board. I wandered downstairs. I was one of the last remaining people to board. I was greeted at the door by a friendly head purser who welcomed me by my name and pointed in the direction of my seat. 32K was my seat today and that is my favourite seat on the QF 767-338ERs. This is because it is the last seat in zone B so it is nice and cosy and it has no windows blocked out (one of the few in this section) and has a great view of the engine. I took my seat and was hoping the seat next to me was vacant. But this dream did not last too long. A lady with her arm in a sling arrived. I helped her put her belongings into the over head lockers and settled back into my seat. The captain came over the P.A and apologised for the delayed departure and that there will be a further delay. This was due to the aircraft arriving late from Brisbane which was because of a mechanical fault which they thought they had rectified in Brisbane. The problem apparently surfaced again and the engineer is filling out the necessary paperwork before we depart. The Captain sounded very posh with an English accent with a hint of Indian. We were also told that we should make up some time with a flight time of only 4 hours expected due to a strong tail wind
We pushed back from the gate at 13:45 and faced south. The safety rules were performed and we taxied to runway 03. It is a long taxi to runway 03 and when we reached the threshold we held of a minute or two. We eventually lined up onto the runway and the engines were spooled up. The throttles were fully advanced and we began our long roll. We rotated in front of the international terminal and climbed out on the runway head for a short while. There was quite a lot of buffeting. I guess this was due to the Perth Hills. We conducted a sharp right hand turn to track us towards the east. After about 3000ft the buffeting stopped and it was not too long before the seat belt signs were extinguished
I checked out what this monthâ€™s radio programming was like and soon discovered that the radio programming was out of date. OGE was obviously still programmed for March. With the announcement about todayâ€™s flight by the CSM and the movie Fracture being screened instead of what the Qantas Magazine had listed (canâ€™t remember what it was supposed to be) definitely meant that we were a month behind.
The meals service began about an hour into the flight and we were given a choice of the Mushroom Ravioli or Beef in Red wine sauce. I opted for the Ravioli as this is an option which I am usually presented yet I had never picked it. After my first bite I understood why I had never picked it. I wished I had chosen the beef instead like the lady in the seat next to me. Oh well at least it came with a roll, cheese and crackers and a Twix bar. The Ravioli was at least edible and I did wash everything down with a coke.
During lunch I looked out the window and was very surprised to see we were flying over water. If you draw a straight line between Perth & Brisbane you would draw it over land only. We must have been flying over the Great Australian Bite to take advantage of the very strong winds before turning Northwards towards to Brisbane. My theory would be hard to prove right as there was no moving map display for this flight. As well the pilots gave us no flight information except when we would be expecting to arrive in Brisbane.
The meal service took a long time to be cleared but as soon as it was the crew distributed ice cream. Today it was a Cookies & Cream Trumpet. The movie Fracture had finished and the CSM informed us that they try and squeeze in another movie for us before we arrived in Brisbane. The crew were fairly attentive and they did several rounds with glasses of water to make sure we were all hydrated on this long domestic flight. All the crew working my section of my cabin were female and were of Asian descent.
As it grew dark outside I noticed that the Business class cabin in front of us was dark and so was the economy class section after our zone as usual on a night time flight. Our section though was illuminated by all the reading lights which we did not turn on by choice. I am assuming the technical problem this aircraft was having was with its electrical system It was not too long before the captain came over the P.A and informed us that we would be making our descent into Brisbane shortly and that the weather was fine. He also apologised for the delay in our departure and our delayed arrival as the winds had not lived up to what they were supposed to be. He anticipated having us at the terminal 20mins behind schedule.
Our descent was initiated soon after the announcement. The cabin crew walked through the cabin to collect any service items and the CSM informed us that unfortunately they would have to switch off the movie for landing. Last time I flew on OGE was from Melbourne to Perth and during our entire landing Andrew Dentonâ€™s Enough Rope was playing. We made a series of small turns during our descent and with no moving map display and not having flown into Brisbane in 20 years I had no idea where we were.
Some small lights from houses and cars in the outer suburbs appeared and the landing lights were illuminated giving me a nice vie of the number 2 engine. We descended to a low altitude and we were cruising very slowly for quite some time. It was at this time I had noticed that the lights in the cabin had not been dimmed and at this late stage nor were they going to be. We then made a sharp left hand turn to final and you could hear the landing gear being lowered. The engines throttled up and the flaps were lowered into their final position and we were on finals for runway 01.Touch down was in blunt 767 style and we used some heavy braking as well as reversers to slow us down.
It was a short but slow taxi to gate 22. Due to the close proximity of the terminal to the right wing tip of the aircraft our taxi into the gate was very slow. The aircraft came to a halt the seat belt signs were turned off. It was not too long before I had exited OGE and made my way downstairs to the baggage reclaim area. It took about 10 -15 minutes for my luggage. After collecting my bag I joined a long queue outside the terminal building to catch a taxi to my hotel. I probably had to wait about 20mins for my cab.
GROUND HANDLING: 5/10
As many of you would have heard Perth Airport is a shambles. The long term Parking facilities are a joke and to have me park in a field miles for the terminal is rather strange. The shuttle bus and the driver were real nice and it was great how the driver explained to me how to get back to my car when I arrived home. Qantas Club is now to small.
I am a big fan of the 767. I love the unconventional and probably uneconomical 2-3-2 seating in economy. VH-OGE is a personal favorite of mine. She was the first Qantas 767-338ER I flew on. The first Qantas 767 I have been able to load onto Airliners.net. I have enjoyed my previous two flights on her from Perth to Denpasar and Melbourne to Perth. She is looking her age now and the cabin was looking rather dated and a little tatty. The reading lights being on the whole time were rather annoying.
The crew were quiet and very attentive. With all my cabin crew of being Asian descent and with a pilot with a Indian/English accent it felt a bit like an international flight. It was great that they used my name during boarding.
Not one of Qantasâ€™s best. Felt like pasta with tomato sauce. Was very bland.
Programming was out of date. And again the movie screen on the main screen did not appeal to me. Was great that they tried to squeeze in another movie after Fractured finished. I donâ€™t understand why they had to stop the movie for landing and when we were arriving in Perth on OGE they continued playing what ever was showing on the main screen
X FACTOR: 3/5:
All up a great and uneventful flight and I quite enjoyed the 2nd longest domestic sector (1st KTA â€“ BNE). The Qantas experience seems still a little tired and with the domestic aircraft to get a enhanced cabin as well as a larger domestic terminal this may go some way in rejuvenating it. Though I like many will predict that Qantas will out grow its Perth facilities before they are even finished with their expansion.
PerthGloryFan From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 751 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 9839 times:
Another good report - you sure keep PER active on this board
Having reported only 1 of my 4 international flights to/from Perth in 2007 I guess I should do more for the cause. Especially more publicity on the crappy state of the terminals might show WACL that people do notice and are not happy!
Wow! A choice of pasta and beef instead of pasta and chicken, whatever were QF thinking of?
If you plug PER-BNE into http://gc.kls2.com/ you will see that the Great Circle Route between these two places does skim the northern shores (cliffs) of the Great Australia Bight and flights usually go further south to grab any westerly tailwainds that might be about at those latitudes.
And I agree, I haven't done too many flights on B767s but I do have a soft spot for them - the 2-3-2 seating means they never seem crowded or something.
9MMPD From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 293 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 9829 times:
Quoting GarethW (Reply 1): Thanks for the report. I've flown on OGE also and echo your comments about the 767. A great plane!
Quoting Ryan h (Reply 2): VH-OGE was the first 767 I flew on as well. I flew on it between Sydney and Auckland in May 2004.
Thanks guys maybe we should start a OGE fan club lol.
Quoting PerthGloryFan (Reply 3): Having reported only 1 of my 4 international flights to/from Perth in 2007 I guess I should do more for the cause. Especially more publicity on the crappy state of the terminals might show WACL that people do notice and are not happy!
Hi PerthGloryFan yes the more we can publiize about the bad state of Perth's terminals the better. Hopefully WACL will do something.
Quoting PerthGloryFan (Reply 3): If you plug PER-BNE into http://gc.kls2.com/ you will see that the Great Circle Route between these two places does skim the northern shores (cliffs) of the Great Australia Bight and flights usually go further south to grab any westerly tailwainds that might be about at those latitudes.
That's a cool site. Yep i would say we would have flown further south to take advantage of the winds as the pilot apologized towards the end of the flight as the winds did not live up to as promised.
Quoting PerthGloryFan (Reply 3): And I agree, I haven't done too many flights on B767s but I do have a soft spot for them - the 2-3-2 seating means they never seem crowded or something.
Wanna join the OGE fan club? But Seriously 767 great airplane. I am sure that the newly refurbished aircraft will breathe a whole new fresh life into the Qantas QF767 fleet.
Pilotdude09 From Australia, joined May 2005, 1777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9690 times:
Quoting 9MMPD (Thread starter): The Qantas Club in Perth is ok but it was very busy. They need more and better selection of food and there was not many spare seats around. Qantas will or probably already have out grown this facility by the time the planned expansions are completed.
Way too small especially when you have 3-4 flights leaving at the same time and the food (if you call it that) is crap, PER's almost needs to be the same size as SYD's QF club infact the QF terminal needs to be a similar size to SYD's terminal to cater for the growth/demand.
Quoting PerthGloryFan (Reply 3): Wow! A choice of pasta and beef instead of pasta and chicken, whatever were QF thinking of?
So true!, I always seem to get Meatballs & Pasta or some sort of Chicken
Quoting 9MMPD (Reply 4): Wanna join the OGE fan club? But Seriously 767 great airplane. I am sure that the newly refurbished aircraft will breathe a whole new fresh life into the Qantas QF767 fleet.
Just a shame we have to suffer with the old 767's for another few years while JQ get the brand spanking new 787s so the Premium pax get shafted by QF as usual.
Quoting Pilotdude09 (Reply 6): Just a shame we have to suffer with the old 767's for another few years while JQ get the brand spanking new 787s so the Premium pax get shafted by QF as usual.
But with Jetstar getting the first batch of 787s the Qantas mainline fleet would get some A330-200s back Presumably VH-EBA, EBB, EBC and EBD as these guys don't have the strengthen cabin floor thus they can not support the Sky beds.
9MMPD From Australia, joined Oct 2005, 293 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8869 times:
Stupid question but does that mean you were one of my pilots? If so thats so cool. I am a massive fan of your photos here on A.net and everytime I am on a QF767 flight I always think is Anthony Jackson going to be flying hence why I always listen to the cockpit announcements when they introduce who they are.