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Aeroméxico EZE-MEX-JFK, C & Y Cabins (Long, Pics)  
User currently offlineMarambio From Argentina, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 26
Posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 19234 times:

Reasons for the trip – My parents were doing their classic January trip to New York City and I was invited to join them for a week. Since I am a Gold Elite Plus with Air France, I looked for the best fare among Skyteam airlines. Delta was an absolute rip-off and Continental and Aeroméxico were practically on a tie. Just to try something different, I decided to go the Mexican way.

Booking – Aeroméxico’s website only allows purchases with Mexican and US credit cards, so I made the booking through Expedia. I then called AM’s office in Buenos Aires to confirm my booking appeared on their system and to choose my seats.

Aeroméxico AM 29
EZE Buenos Aires Ezeiza – MEX Mexico City Benito Juárez
19 January 2008
ETD/ETA: 23:55/05:35 +1
ATD/ATA: 23:55/10:30 +1
Estimated/Actual Flight Length: 9:40/15:40
Seat 4H – Clase Premier
Boeing 767-200ER – XA-TOJ


Check-in – Since Aeroméxico only allows web check-in for flights within Mexico, I got to EZE with plenty of time. Counters opened three hours before departure, and I was checked in by a very nice lady at the Clase Premier (Business Class) counters. She tagged the luggage all the way to JFK and gave me my boarding pass for seat 11B, which was the one I had previously selected, and an invitation for the “Salón de las Américas”, a VIP Lounge located near gate 2 and used by a whole bunch of airlines.


EZE - Passenger drop-off


EZE - RG advertisement: "Varig - it's more than flying"


EZE - Crowded check-in hall

Checkpoints & Lounge – EZE was a complete mess that night, with lots of people going on holiday, especially to some beach resorts in Brazil, so security and passport control took a long while to be cleared. After that, I went to the Salón de las Américas. It is not that great, but at least they offer a good selection of drinks and newspapers. I went to the bar for a scotch and the girl apologized for only having J&B and JW Red Label. Even though my mother would usually say “if you respect yourself you don’t drink Red Label”, I went for it. Afterwards I sat down on one of the comfy armchairs and made some last minute calls.


EZE - Salón de las Américas VIP Lounge


EZE - Salón de las Américas VIP Lounge

Boarding – I left the lounge at around 22:40, some ten minutes before boarding time. As I walked towards the gate, I heard an announcement – “Your attention please, we are looking for passenger Marambio, traveling on Aeroméxico. Please proceed to gate 9.” Once I reached one of the AM agents, she asked for my boarding pass and gave me a new one, which had “Seat 4H UPG” written on it. I guess sticking to only one alliance sometimes pays well! With a huge smile on my face, I went through the aerobridge and entered the plane, where the smiling, male purser welcomed me onboard. As I walked towards my seat, a female FA took my coat away and offered me the amenity kit, Mexican immigration forms and a welcome drink. AM still offers French champagne – other airlines, including some Skyteam partners (cough – KLM – cough) should make a note of this. The seat itself wasn’t spectacular, but Business Class is always better than Economy and AM compensates the lack of lie-flat seats and good IFE with a terrific service.


Welcome Drink - Moët & Chandon French champagne

Flight – We took off on time and once we reached our cruising altitude of FL360 service begun. First, we were offered some canapés and a drink – I stuck with scotch, and the purser said “I’ll be back in a minute with a new bottle of Chivas Regal.” Smart guy. Main course was either chicken or beef. I had the beef and it was perfectly cooked. The salad was very good too. Dessert was a tasty chocolate cake and some cheese. To drink, I chose a French red wine and some water. After such a great meal, I slept all the way from the Chile-Peru border to the Mexican coast, waking up a mere half an hour before entering Mexico, just when lights were turned on for breakfast. Breakfast consisted of a plate of fruits, some Danish pastries and yoghurt - a light-yet-tasty, typical Latin American breakfast.


Starters - Canapés and Chivas Regal scotch


Main course and dessert


Plate of cheese


Almost there!


Clase Premier cabin view

Diversion – Once we started our descent towards Mexico City, the captain came on the PA and said MEX was below minimums because of heavy fog. We would therefore hold over Santa Lucía VOR for roughly half an hour and, if the airport didn’t re-open by then, we would have to divert to Acapulco for re-fuelling. He tried nonetheless to land but we went missed after noticing how deep the fog was. The 767 was quite empty of fuel by then, and it could be really felt – we skyrocketed towards the skies after going missed. By that time I accepted the fact that I was to miss my connection to JFK and decided not to worry about it. After all, I was on holiday!

Sun was rising over Acapulco as we landed there. Apparently we were the first ones to come, and an incredible amount of airplanes followed us, to the extent that an Iberia A340 had to park at the taxiway because there was no room at the platform. I got an extra hour of sleep, and then went to the stairs to talk with the crew and some other passengers. Due to “immigration reasons” we were not allowed to leave the airplane, so a crowd of people congregated at the door to breathe some fresh air. We had some good laughs and the FAs told us about the places they fly. They were particularly excited about going to Tokyo. Overall the whole thing wasn’t that bad – weather in Acapulco was great, and the crew were in very high spirits and making jokes all the time. Some three hours later we were cleared to Mexico City. When the purser announced we were about to leave, the whole plane started cheering and clapping. Flight time to Benito Juárez Airport was 50 minutes and we left the plane though a brand new aerobridge at MEX’s five-days-old Terminal 2.


ACA - Not supposed to be here!


ACA - IB A340 parked at the taxiway


ACA - Our plane as seen from our plane


ACA - All waiting for MEX to re-open...

Landing & Connection – Something weird at MEX is that even if you are on an international connection, you have to clear immigration and customs. I actually liked that, for it meant an extra passport stamp and the opportunity to check out the new terminal both before and after security. One word to describe it: beautiful yet cold. I suppose it will be nicer once more shops and restaurants are available. Right now there are only some cafés and souvenir stores. On the bad side, I was surprised they only sold Mexican newspapers. MEX is Latin America’s biggest airport and has lots of flights across the North Border, so why not offer at least some US papers and magazines?

My flight to New York indeed left without me, so I went to the Aeroméxico check-in counters, where a very cool agent apologized for all the inconveniences and for not being able to upgrade me (the flight was almost sold-out) and re-booked me for AM’s next flight to JFK, due to depart at 5 pm. We also had a nice talk about Buenos Aires, where he planned to go next month with his girlfriend. I then went for brunch (it was too late for breakfast and too early for lunch) to a café called Barón Rojo, where I had a traditional Mexican dish called “Divorciadas” (Divorced Females). It was really nice and spicy, just the way I like it. The lady couldn’t give me all the change in US dollars, so I now have got a crispy, blue 20 Mexican pesos note as a souvenir. Coincidentally, the 20 pesos note has got a portrait of Benito Juárez.

I cleared immigration and security in no time and after spending only 2 hours in Mexico, I was now officially on that sort of legal No Man’s Land you are when taking an international flight. I went upstairs to check out the Club Premier Lounge and was surprised by what is possibly one of the best Business Class Lounges I have ever been to. The place is very modern, has got free wi-fi and laptops to use, and even a proper restaurant were you can order any kinds of food. I spent my time surfing the net with one of the laptops they let you use, and having a Diet Coke.

I went back to the waiting area at around 4:30 pm. Soon afterwards our flight to JFK was called for boarding.


MEX - Arrivals hall


MEX - Departures hall


MEX - AM's Club Premier VIP Lounge


MEX - Boarding gates


MEX - AM 772 leaving for CDG


MEX - Guess who is the main carrier at Terminal 2


MEX - Terminal 2 Overview

Aeroméxico AM 404
MEX Mexico City Benito Juárez – JFK New York John F. Kennedy
20 January 2008
ETD/ETA: 17:00/22:45
ATD/ATA: 17:10/22:35
Estimated/Actual Flight Length: 4:45/4:25
Seat 6D – Economy Class
Boeing 737-700 – XA-***


Boarding – Boarding was first called for passengers requiring assistance, those traveling on Clase Premier and Skyteam Elites. There was an extra security check at the gate but thankfully I was just asked whether I was bringing any liquids onboard, which was not the case. At the plane’s entrance there was a huge selection of Mexican newspapers, so I picked a copy of “Excélsior” and jumped in the 73G, where I was greeted by a female FA. The guy at the check-in counters had told me he’d do his best to find me a good seat, and he was right – he put me on the first row of Economy Class, which was really appreciated, especially considering the flight was absolutely packed.

Flight – We took off on time and once we reached cruising altitude, FL380, the FAs came around distributing the USA immigration and customs forms, asking each passenger whether they were US citizens, citizens of a visa-waiver country or of a country which needs visa. The third option was the most popular today. Surprisingly, forms were in Spanish, which was a nice touch. Afterwards dinner was served – either chicken or pasta. I went for the pasta and it was actually very good. The rest of the flight was quite uneventful and I spent it reading the newspaper and watching one of the movies we were shown, “Rush Hour 3” with Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker. Before starting our descent, the captain came on the PA to tell us we would have to wait for some 20 minutes to land because JFK was very congested. We actually waited for roughly 10 minutes and then landed at New York’s biggest airport.


US immigration and customs forms


Dinner

Immigration & Baggage Claim – Immigration took quite a long time because most counters were closed at that hour. The process itself was very easy, and after being asked how long I was staying and being fingerprinted and taken a picture, I was waiting for the luggage, which came in no time – the Clase Premier tags were not ignored. It was time, finally, to take the Air Train to Jamaica Station and then the subway to Manhattan and to enjoy New York for a whole week.

The Verdict – I am very impressed with Aeroméxico. When I first bought my ticket, I didn’t know what to expect. I learned that Latin America can also have a world class airline and, even though the seats cannot compete against the biggest carriers, service is its strongest point. From checking in at EZE to landing at JFK, everyone at AM was happy and always smiling, and they really knew and (looked like they) loved their jobs. The whole process of getting me on a new JFK-bound flight was really well handled and, despite my initial concern, even my luggage made it all the way to New York. I now officially became Aeroméxico’s #1 fan.

Stay tuned for part 2 of this report, covering the return flight to Buenos Aires via Mexico. Thank you very much for reading and, as usual, comments will be really appreciated.

Saludos,
Marambio


Aerolíneas Argentinas - La Argentina que levanta vuelo.
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User currently offlineKLM685 From Mexico, joined May 2005, 1577 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 19138 times:

GREAT !! I've been waiting for this trip report ( EZE-MEX plus T2) for some time now! I'm really glad that you enjoyed Aeromexico's services. I flew with them last Dec to ATL and had one of the greatest flights ever! AM's crew and staff are amazing ( with its exceptions). BTW the food from the EZE-ACA ( some tan would have been great) sector looks fabulous!

I work with a teacher from Atlanta that flies with DL always. He has said just wonderful things about the T2 except for the lack of stores and things to buy. In T1 we get all newspapers, services, etc... T2 is going slow so in no time it'll be a great great terminal to fly.

Thanks for the great trip report Marambio! If you get stuck in MEX again give us a call!

Cheers!



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8502 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18999 times:
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Great report and photo's, many thanks.

Well writtend and easy to follow. AM seem pretty good service wise,catering looks pretty good too.

Looks like the delay was well handled too.

Look forward to the return report.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 18922 times:

Thanks for yet another interesting trip report Marcos (sorry and pity was not able to meet in BA).

Was the aircraft full between EZE and MEX?

I read Aeromexico is looking to start a route to Shanghai. I do not know timetables but it would probably sell as an alternative from SCL , EZE or GRU to China.

Greetings

Sebastian


User currently offlineAyubogg From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2007, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 18784 times:

Great TR!

I haven't flown AM in just over five years but it looks like their service remains solid and great. I was in MEX this past December and was only able to contemplate T2 from afar as I was flying AS. Really looking forward to return trip!

Regards,

-Ayubogg



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User currently offlineRICARIZA From Colombia, joined Apr 2005, 2382 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 18559 times:

Pretty cool TR.,..!! Thanks man...!

Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
Even though my mother would usually say “if you respect yourself you don’t drink Red Label”,

I totally agree with her  Wink



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User currently offlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2713 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 23 hours ago) and read 18360 times:

And again, wonderful trip report!

 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineMunichpictures From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 20 hours ago) and read 18220 times:

Great Trip Report, nice pictures

thx for sharing

regards
Rainer


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 2 hours ago) and read 17628 times:

Marambio,

Excellent trip report! This is one of the longest flights inside Latin America. We already have a MEX-GRU report somewhere around here and now this one. We just need a MEX-SCL  Smile

It seems you experienced some great service on board and on the ground. In my experience I haven't had that luck yet. The first time I flew AM, it was a short MEX-MTY hop on a MD87 and thanks to our MACHO pilot who wanted to exit the runway while we were rolling at high speed, we barely skidded off the runway during landing in MTY. I was seating behind a pair of uniformed AM pilots who were saying "hey wey, nos salimos, nos salimos!". I think our left landing gear rolled over a bit of grass...

My return experience MTY-MEX was OK until landing in MEX where we had to wait 55 minutes in a remote position off Gate 1 at T-1 for a bus to pick us up to take us to the terminal. We had already departed 30 min late from MTY. I had a 2hour connecting flight in gate 36 and I had to run like crazy and managed to board as the last pax (my name was being called on the PA while I ran towards the gate).

Keep those reports coming!

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4747 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 1 hour ago) and read 17603 times:



Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
EZE - RG advertisement: "Varig - it's more than flying"

A new c/s for Varig! Half their compass is gone... I wonder how the rest of the aircraft looks like?

Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
Clase Premier cabin view

I see that the Premiere Class config on the 767 is 1-2-2. Lucky person on the "A" row who has one row to himself at the window!

Thank you for the insight into AM's service. They seem like a pretty ok airline. I actually bought 2 777-200 Herpa models of AM's a few months back, one of the silver livery, and the other one of the LAN-esque. Curiously, why are their c/s so similar? Are they owned by the same parent?



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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4747 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 1 hour ago) and read 17600 times:



Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
They were particularly excited about going to Tokyo.

I forgot to add... They should be rightfully happy and proud of the fact that they are the ONLY Latin American airline to presently have a service to Asia (NRT and PVG) after the demise of Varig.



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7561 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months ago) and read 17558 times:



Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
AM still offers French champagne – other airlines, including some Skyteam partners (cough – KLM – cough) should make a note of this.

Yeah, I know. That's cool. On my flight back from JFK to MEX last Sunday in Clase Premier, AM offered Moët et Chandon Nectar Impérial. However, I flew LAX-MEX in Clase Premier about three weeks ago and the bubbly was nowhere to be seen.

Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
I chose a French red wine and some water.

May I suggest you try next time Monte Xanic Cabernet Sauvignon. Monte Xanic makes very nice wines and I am quite happy that AM offers them in Premier. Nice way of promoting a good Mexican wine to foreigners.

Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
why not offer at least some US papers and magazines?

Once more stores open you will be able to find lots of those. In T1 you can always find the Miami Herald, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, maybe the Los Angeles Times, plus all sorts of magazines from all over the world (think The Economist, Der Spiegel, etcetera, etcetera).

Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
now have got a crispy, blue 20 Mexican pesos note as a souvenir. Coincidentally, the 20 pesos note has got a portrait of Benito

They are polymer by the way, to all of those who are not in the know. I love our new polymer bills (20's and 50's). They are so much more durable. Like Australian dollars. Can't wait for Banco de México to replace our 100's, 200's, 500's and 1000's with the new generation notes.

Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
went upstairs to check out the Club Premier Lounge and was surprised by what is possibly one of the best Business Class Lounges I have ever been to. The place is very modern, has got free wi-fi and laptops to use, and even a proper restaurant were you can order any kinds of food. I spent my time surfing the net with one of the laptops they let you use, and having a Diet Coke.

I will sample this next week as I fly MEX-JFK in J!!! Can't wait!

Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
I am very impressed with Aeroméxico.

Yay! Thanks. And you got an old 762ER and had a diversion! Wait until you fly in a 772ER!



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2443 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17513 times:

Good to hear that AM is pleasing Skyteam Elite customers. I flew MEX-EZE-MEX-JFK-MEX in June 2007 and the check in agents in EZE could not issue my MEX-JFK boarding pass. They were the same agents working AF flights (contractor maybe) and were still familiarizing themselves with AM system.

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 9):
I see that the Premiere Class config on the 767 is 1-2-2. Lucky person on the "A" row who has one row to himself at the window!

Not all B767's in AM fleet have the 1-2-2 configuration in J. XA-OAM, the ex Linhas Aereas de Mocambique has the 2-1-2 configuration and you never know when you are getting this machine for your flights.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 11):
Yeah, I know. That's cool. On my flight back from JFK to MEX last Sunday in Clase Premier, AM offered Moët et Chandon Nectar Impérial. However, I flew LAX-MEX in Clase Premier about three weeks ago and the bubbly was nowhere to be seen.

AM has a special menu for its Europe, South America, Asia and JFK flights in Clase Premier. Therefore, only JFK gets the quality wines you were expecting on your LAX flight...


User currently offlineCaspritz78 From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 17272 times:



Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
AM still offers French champagne – other airlines, including some Skyteam partners (cough – KLM – cough) should make a note of this.

Is there anything else than FRENCH champagne?  Wink

Great report. Great to read about some other airlines.


User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5075 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 17253 times:

Awesome TR. Thanks for sharing man. Hope to catch a drink with you when I am in BA soon.

Cheers,
A.



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User currently offlineMarambio From Argentina, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17208 times:

Thank you very much for your comments, gentlemen.  Smile

Quoting KLM685 (Reply 1):

Thanks for the great trip report Marambio! If you get stuck in MEX again give us a call!

Thank you for the offer. I'd gladly take it!

Quoting Lima (Reply 3):
Thanks for yet another interesting trip report Marcos (sorry and pity was not able to meet in BA).

Was the aircraft full between EZE and MEX?

Yes, all flights were completely full, and I guess that's why I got upgraded to Clase Premier. I'll probably be going to NL at some point this year. Should it happen, I'll send you an e-mail. It would be great to meet once again over there.

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 9):
Curiously, why are their c/s so similar? Are they owned by the same parent?

I don't think they are. LAN is owned by a Chilean group, whilst Aeroméxico's owner is (if not mistaken) Grupo Financiero Banamex. Ironically, on the back of AM boarding passes there is an ad of BBVA Bancomer, another big Mexican bank.

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 10):
They should be rightfully happy and proud of the fact that they are the ONLY Latin American airline to presently have a service to Asia (NRT and PVG) after the demise of Varig.

Well, PVG is starting in April, but yes, you are completely right.  Wink

Quoting Caspritz78 (Reply 13):
Is there anything else than FRENCH champagne?

 rotfl 

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 14):
Awesome TR. Thanks for sharing man. Hope to catch a drink with you when I am in BA soon.

It will be my pleasure.  Smile

Saludos,
Marambio



Aerolíneas Argentinas - La Argentina que levanta vuelo.
User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 17187 times:

Brilliant TR

The pics are really good.

One of the better TR in a long time!!!



Thank you for sharing

B747forever



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7561 posts, RR: 43
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 16914 times:



Quoting Marambio (Reply 15):
I don't think they are. LAN is owned by a Chilean group, whilst Aeroméxico's owner is (if not mistaken) Grupo Financiero Banamex. Ironically, on the back of AM boarding passes there is an ad of BBVA Bancomer, another big Mexican bank.

Correct, AM's new owners are a bunch of very wealthy and well-known Mexican entrepreneurs with businesses in different industries and an affiliate of Citigroup/Banamex. Due to Mexican foreign investments statutory restrictions, the affiliate of Citigroup/Banamex owns indirectly a minority participation in the capital stock of AM.

With respect to the BBVA ad, I was thinking the same last week, as I was checking in for my flight... funny that Banamex' nemesis has ads on the back of AM's boarding passes. I guess this advertisement agreement dates back to before the AM takeover and AM still has a lot of blank boarding passes with the ad printed in the back.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineUPPERDECKFAN From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 16548 times:



Quoting EddieDude (Reply 17):
even though the seats cannot compete against the biggest carriers

DL/CO business class seats are not impressive, do you mean AM seats are that far worse?

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 10):
They should be rightfully happy and proud of the fact that they are the ONLY Latin American airline to presently have a service to Asia (NRT and PVG) after the demise of Varig.

AFAIK VO is a Latin American carrier who flies to Asia (DAM and THR)



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7561 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 16100 times:

I did not write that!!! That was in the report (the thread opener), not in my reply (no. 17).

Anyway, how are you UPPERDECKFAN? Long time no hear. You're coming to Mexico for the WRC this year?



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 16016 times:



Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 18):
VO is a Latin American carrier who flies to Asia (DAM and THR)

That's correct. Conviasa was the only LA airline flying from Latin America to Asia until AM started flying to NRT. They fly 2X weekly to THR via DAM with A342.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2713 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 15947 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 20):
That's correct. Conviasa was the only LA airline flying from Latin America to Asia until AM started flying to NRT. They fly 2X weekly to THR via DAM with A342.


AeroMexico started flying to the Orient in Nov of 2006. Iran Air started flying from Teheran to Caracas in March 2007. And it wasn't until very-very recently that Conviasa's sole A340 took over the route which flies once a week departing CCS on Saturdays.

I'm sure RyanAir was refering to The Orient, not south of Asia Minor.

In all honesty it is quite evident that AM's services to Tokyo and soon Shanghai are flown for commercially viable reasons, unlike that of Conviasa's reasons for flying Damascus-Teheran. While one country's airline expands in the way of the globalized economy the other one expands in the ways global introversion.

  LatinPlane

[Edited 2008-02-06 18:00:00]

User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 15882 times:



Quoting Latinplane (Reply 21):
Iran Air started flying from Teheran to Caracas in March 2007.

You are right, I got confused because I saw a pic of Iran Air's 747 in CCS in 2005 but it was because of a presidential visit.

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 21):
In all honesty it is quite evident that AM's services to Tokyo and soon Shanghai are flown for commercially viable reasons, unlike that of Conviasa's reasons for flying Damascus-Teheran. While one country's airline expands in the way of the globalized economy the other one expands in the ways global introversion.

Indeed. That's the way things are done here: use the oil money to buy support inside the country and abroad! A Chavez trademark  Wink

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7561 posts, RR: 43
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 15702 times:

What is the date on which MEX-TIJ-PVG service will be launched?


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26852 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 15662 times:

Very nice TR and pics. The diversion you just have to treat as part of the vacation LOL.... nothing else you can do.. The J class looks very nice and the main course looks good also.

OA260


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