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BA Domestic - LHR - EDI Inbound Part 2 (Pics)  
User currently offlineSpeedbird2779 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 28 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5222 times:

Part One - Edinburgh to Heathrow is here

The Trip ...
As I said in Part 1, I'm was just aiming to share a typical UK domestic experience and as I was travelling in uniform I didn't think it appropriate to be snapping away with a Canon; so all photos were taken with my Nokia 6234 in Flight Safe mode. (No rules were broken -- the phone was off for T/O and landing and on as a MP3 player when okay to do so) . The bulk of the detail is in Part 1, but the inbound journey illustrates some of the chaos caused by the knock on effects of fog at Heathrow.

As I mentioned in Part 1, I had been called down to Heathrow for a meeting and was intending to return home to Edinburgh on the 1930 flight. Consequently, I sauntered through the Online Check-In area and security around 4 o' clock intending to have a more substantial snack prior to retiring to the Lounge. I had carried a casual jumper to put on, so that once my uniform jacket was crumpled into the case, I could enter the Terraces Lounge "under cover".

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Heathrow - One of the BA Self Service Areas
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Heathrow - Waiting in Costa Coffee; looking at the Gate 5 area in Terminal 1


There's always a fair sprinkling of BA crew around Costa as they wait to head home (standby, etc), and I sometimes wonder what message this sends out about staff catering Big grin. I was in 11C heading home and I decided to try and change to the back row; always good for a chat with the crew in the rear galley. The warning bells starting ringing as I headed over to the Customer Service Desk... not an encouraging screen.

Edinburgh Flights
BA1454 1715 Delayed 1730
BA1458 1830 Cancelled (Just happened as I was looking at the screen)
BA1462 1930 My Flight - Delayed 2055
BA1464 2045 No comment....

Now the Edinburgh flights can be very busy; firstly there is the obvious "haggis and heather/Edinburgh Castle" tourist traffic. Secondly, Edinburgh is a major financial centre with HBOS plc, RBS Group and Standard Life all headquartered there; so there are always a few "broad pin stripe boys" who expect expecting the earth when travelling.

Of course the knock on effects of Heathrow's fog were still being felt and I suspected that further flights may be cancelled and merged. A stratagem quickly formed in the head...get home on the delayed 1454 at all costs. The Customer Service Desk was in chaos and I hopped quickly round to the Executive Lounge. 4 smiling ladies waiting to welcome me... I entered just as the 1830 cancellation was announced. Within seconds I went from being alone to being surrounded by about 50 people. Fortunately, I was at the front of the queue and was quickly off loaded from the BA1462 and on to the 1454. Another 10 or so pax were equally lucky. In practice the Ground Staff were delighted; another few bods out and less to juggle later. Despite being unpopular with pax and the Tabloid Press, sometimes Ops need to make the harsh decisions and cancel flights to restore the equilibrium for the next day. As you can see it was the correct move.
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From BA.COM ... from an arrivals at Edinburgh perspective.


Heading home then...

BA1454 G-EUUG A320 Gate 76.

Boarding was announced around 1730 necessitating a quick hike through the Gate 5 area and out along the silver tube.
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Heathrow - Heading along the Silver tube to Gate 76.
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Heathrow - G-EUUG on Stand 76.


Usual very friendly welcome from the Captain, explaining about the late arrival of the incoming aircraft from Glasgow followed by a super welcome from the Cabin Services Director who covered every base - Cabin Crew, upcoming safety briefing, the meal, Executive Club and One World Alliance.

Another very clean cabin, compared to the 757, the Airbus cabins seems to stay cleaner, longer. Incidently, I don't know if the overhead flood lights had new tubes but the ceiling lights were so bright that neurosurgery could have been performed in the cabin. We pushed at 17:51, with the usual rush hour congestion at Heathrow leading to a prediction of a 20 delay for T/O. Safety Video run prior to the cabin lights being dimmed. My major annoyance on the early evening shuttle flights is the preponderance of business types; at least 1/2 cabin couldn't manage the courtesy of 3 mins for the Safety Briefing. Wall to Wall pink - the Financial Times being studied very hard by the pin stripe brigade.

Airborne at 18:12, Crew Released at 18:15 and Belts off at 18:19. Unlike the southbound flight, the screens were redeployed for the flight info displays.
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Inflight information


The route tonight took us east past Luton and than a left turn to head NW towards Sheffield. Passing east of Manchester we then headed north over the Lake District and were handed off to Scottish Control. Cruise was FL280 Ground Speed 838 kph with a very slight tailwind. Over the border and a right turn direct towards Edinburgh. We were straight in tonight, approaching over Livingston and the M8 motorway to land on the easterly runway.

Those of you who battled through my flowery writing style in part 1, will have read about the savoury or sweet choice on the midday flights. Fortunately, as this was an evening flight a little dinner is served - hooray. A very tasty chicken salad with tomato, lettuce, artichoke hearts and a minty cous cous. This is served with a Rhubard Crumble desert and a "doubled ended roll" (one half is white bread and the other was wholemeal). A full beverage service is available with the business types taking coffee and 2 bottles of red!
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Chicken Salad with Cous Cous, Artichoke, tomato and lettuce.


So there we are, a fun day of chaos all caused by fog around Heathrow despite as BA777ER236 says the fact that we're certified to Cat3b. This is just the fun caused on one route, multiple this up across the BA Route Map and you can see why the press seem to report just BA's problems. To some sections of the Press, BA is Heathrow. What is not reported is the huge efforts made across every BA team to minimise the impact - it's not easy and certainly not always popular but it works... bear in mind too, that BA's fares can be cheaper than some LCCs and they will get you home. Not to mention a delicious chicken salad.

Thanks for reading


Were we cleared to cross at Delta 2?
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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5186 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5093 times:

Hello, again, Speedbird2779,

another good read, thanx again.

While I was for several times at LHR, EDI will be a new addition to me, so nice to read your detailed
impressions.

Quoting Speedbird2779 (Thread starter):
Wall to Wall pink - the Financial Times being studied very hard by the pin stripe brigade.

Count me in, on a typical biz travel day
 Wink

Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: London City connections!.
User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5038 times:

Nice report. What uniform required you to hid it?!?

Quoting Speedbird2779 (Thread starter):
So there we are, a fun day of chaos all caused by fog around Heathrow despite as BA777ER236 says the fact that we're certified to Cat3b.

Operational limitations are still placed upon the airport - fewer aircraft can be on the ILS, aircraft must hold further away from the runway to avoid interference with the ILS equipment, and imagine ground ops can be delayed as well. As BA are the biggest user of LHR it is inevitable that they will be delayed when low-vis procedures are in place.



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User currently offlineSpeedbird2779 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4899 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Count me in, on a typical biz travel day

Hi Thanks for your kind comments. I'm sure you are courteous enough to put your FT down for a few moments !

I flew with a 757 Captain once, who when advised by the Purser that few people were paying attention to the demo left the the flight deck and stood at the front of the plane staring at everyone 'til they looked forward. We knew we had a 25 minute delay for the slot so no harm done.  

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 2):
Nice report. What uniform required you to hid it?!?

Crew aren't allowed in the Lounge in uniform in case (1) it hacks the fare paying passengers off, and (2) certainly don't want flight crew to appear too close to alcoholic beverages. Hence jacket in the case and jumper over the shirt. Although I'm teetotal anyway.

[Edited 2008-02-14 14:32:30]


Were we cleared to cross at Delta 2?
User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4883 times:

Ah, I see. Wasn't aware you were flight crew; which makes the second half of my previous post look silly!

[Edited 2008-02-14 14:43:54]


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User currently offlineSpeedbird2779 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4869 times:



Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 4):

 bigthumbsup  Not a problem... all goes to educate our fellow A.nutters



Were we cleared to cross at Delta 2?
User currently offlineComeflywithme From Argentina, joined Sep 2006, 265 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4743 times:



Quoting Speedbird2779 (Thread starter):
A very tasty chicken salad with tomato, lettuce, artichoke hearts and a minty cous cous.

Ah, the Chicken Cous Cous, I must say I prefer the salmon salad although nothing wrong with the chicken.

I am always amazed how the Cabin Crew manage to serve a full load on the Scottish shuttles,they do a great job especially with the drinks as well.  bigthumbsup 


User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17147 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4570 times:

Great TR

The pics are really good.

The food seems fine!


Thank you for sharing

B747forever



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User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 4419 times:



Quoting Speedbird2779 (Reply 3):
Crew aren't allowed in the Lounge in uniform in case

Did you not say in part1 that you were a Gold Card holder? I was under the impression that BA staff weren't allowed to join the exec club

Great report by the way, really enjoyed it



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User currently offlineSpeedbird2779 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 4409 times:



Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 8):
Did you not say in part1 that you were a Gold Card holder? I was under the impression that BA staff weren't allowed to join the exec club

Correct - I'm not BA crew - my Airliners handle represents my preferred employer  Wink



Were we cleared to cross at Delta 2?
User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 4392 times:



Quoting Speedbird2779 (Reply 9):
Correct - I'm not BA crew - my Airliners handle represents my preferred employer

Ahhhh, it makes sense now



There's flying and then there's flying
User currently offlineDFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4031 times:

Another fun read. Lucky that you got on the earlier flight!

Question: Are the "All Day Deli" sandwiches gone now and replaced by real meals? My last LHR-EDI was a couple years ago and we had the all day deli. Just wondering if BA has updated/upgraded the food, as I don't fly on them nearly as much as I would like. I flew BA twice last summer. ORD-LHR transatlantic and CDG-LHR one morning.

Thanks!
Matt


User currently offlineSpeedbird2779 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3982 times:



Quoting DFW13L (Reply 11):
Question: Are the "All Day Deli" sandwiches gone now and replaced by real meals? My last LHR-EDI was a couple years ago and we had the all day deli. Just wondering if BA has updated/upgraded the food

Hi Matt,

It's a bit different since BA divested itself of the regions. In the days of BA Connect you would have got a Deli Wrap or similar on a midday flight. Now it's hot breakfast, dinner or the preztels/muesli bar in the middle. From an Edinburgh perspective with the transfer of flights to FlyBE (Manchester, Bristol, Paris) it is now only possible to fly direct with BA to LHR, LGW and LCY hence the London Airways tag. Even Loganair's operations for the Highlands and Islands has now partnered with FlyBe when the BA franchise came to an end.

I think the breakfast and dinner will always stay given the amount of business travellers at those times; particularly into London City with the bank types at Canary Wharf. The middle of the day tends to be more leisure travellers or people aiming for long haul connections at LHR.



Were we cleared to cross at Delta 2?
User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1697 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3844 times:

Why do european airlines give meals on flights like EDI-LHR, but U.S. airlines won't give us a meal on SAN-BOS? I wish we had the service of Euro. airlines over here in the U.S.! Great TR!


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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8588 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3692 times:
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Great report and nice set of pix, thanks indeed.

I must say that meal looked pretty decent, one of the many things I like about BA.

Quoting Speedbird2779 (Thread starter):
My major annoyance on the early evening shuttle flights is the preponderance of business types; at least 1/2 cabin couldn't manage the courtesy of 3 mins for the Safety Briefing

- Despite the countless flights I take on the same equipmet, I always put down my book or paper to watch the safety demo, it's more of a courtesy thing than anything.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27306 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3523 times:

Very nice 2nd part to your BA Domestic trip. Food looks good also. Shame BA doesnt fly its own metal to BFS-LHR . That used to be a very good service.

OA260


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