Phileet92 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 292 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 30697 times:
DL Trans-Con JFK-LAS and LAX-JFK (Part 1)
Delta Airlines
Flight DL419
JFK- LAS
19 Feb 08
B-757-2Q8 ER
Seat 28A Y-Class
Load 22F/ 148 Y
Overview
For schools in the northeast, kids get a break usually in the middle of February so that they can take a break from the cold, or even enjoy it. In my case, I'm flying to the west so I can enjoy some sunshine and heat in Las Vegas and Los Angeles. I will be travelling with my mom, dad, aunt, and grandmother. I know what some of you guys out there might think, kid going to Las Vegas? I'm more excited about the flying part and just getting out of ordinary high school life. Anyways, we would be flying into Las Vegas, driving through the desert and going home through Los Angeles, spending two nights in Las Vegas at the Monte Carlo hotel & casino (which recently caught on fire) and spending another two nights at the Renaissance Montura Hotel at LAX.
Check-In
Just as any other US airline today, Delta utilizes the self check-in kiosks that print out those flimsy paper boarding passes. I arrived at the airport at about a quarter to seven and found that there were already a number of people that filled up the check-in hall. The kiosks were located in the center and the sides of the hall and if you had any bags to check, the counters were on the outer wall. Using the kiosks was easy enough and the bags were tagged and ready to go within three minutes.
Delta Self Service Check-in Kiosk
Very Crowded Delta Terminal Check-in
Accessibility
I was travelling with my grand mother on this flight so a few weeks prior to the flying date; I requested wheelchair assistance online through delta.com. I reminded the agent who helped us call up a wheelchair. We stood around and waited, and waited, and waited, and waited some more. It took about fifteen minutes for a wheelchair to arrive. In my opinion, WAY TOO LONG!!! We also benefitted from that otherwise....
Security Check
Because my grandmother was in a wheelchair, we skipped the lines and went straight to the front of the line that stretched down the terminal for security. I was in and out within two minutes. I imagine it would have taken at least twenty five minutes if we didn't have a travel companion in a wheelchair.
Waiting Hall
It was a long walk from the security check point to gate twenty four where my flight was to depart. Delta utilizes two terminals at JFK. Great views of the tarmac from the connecting bridge that connects terminals two and four. I believe gate twenty four was in terminal two, the international terminal. It offered a wide open space that felt very spacious and not crowded or anything. Lots of natural light was offered and I went to do a little spotting.
Spotting
Air Jamaica: A321-211
American: A300-605, 767-223, MD-82
China Airlines Cargo: 747-409F
Delta: 737-832, 757-2Q8ER, 757-232, MD-88, CRJ-100ER
Ethiad: A340-541
Japan Airlines: 747-446
Thai Airways: A340-541
United: 757-222
Virgin America: A320-214
American 767 early departure to LAX
Delta 737-800
De-icing
Comair
Delta MD-88
Delta 757-200 with winglets!
Japan Airlines 747-446
Delta Terminal 3 737, 757, and 767's
AeroMexico 737
Virgin America A320-214
Thai Airways A340-541
Delta CRJ-100ER
More Delta CRJ-100ER
Boarding
Delta now offers the "Breeze Way" basically a separate lane for First Class, Business Elite, and Skymiles Medallion members. Like everyone else however, I used the general boarding lane. One of the "ups" of delta is that they use the Zone System, groups of rows grouped in zones that make boarding much more efficient. I have to say that this was one of the shortest boarding calls I have ever experienced on a domestic flight. Upon boarding, I handed the purser my flight log sheet and asked her to relay it to the Captain. She brought it to him right away. I quickly took my seat at 28A and before I knew it, the doors were shut and we were pushed back.
Flight Info Screens
View out of my window. A Delta 737-800 is parked next to us and Terminal 1 is visible in the far left.
I guess there is a change in aircraft today. The safety card says its supposed to be an International aircraft
Taxi
We pushed back from our gate and made it out to taxiway "A". We turned right and followed taxiway "A" through the entire taxi passing terminal 1, the Jetblue maintenance building, and the American Airlines terminals 9 and 8. We then made a slight left turn onto taxiway "V" and crossed runway 13L/ 31R, then turned right onto taxiway "C". Taxiing on taxiway "C", we passed the Asiana cargo building, a China Airlines Cargo 744F, and Northwest Airlines and KLM cargo buildings. We were following a Jetblue A320, United 752, and an Air Jamaica A321. Getting close to Runway 22R, I spotted an Ethiad A340. Just short of taxiway "ZA", I saw smoke coming out of engine one. It continued for just a few seconds but I kind of got nervous, any idea why? Finally, we turned left onto taxiway "ZA" and lined up with the runway. To get to the runway, we basically took a stroll around the entire airport from one corner to the other.
sorry about the quality for this one. hey look! a Tuscon milk truck! new grade A jetfuel?
JetBlue hanger
China Airlines 747-409F at the Cargo Ramp
Northwest and KLM cargo terminal
Is this normal???
Number 3 for take-off behind United 757 and Air Jamaica A321
Number 2 for take-off behind Air Jamaica A321
American 767-200 following us to LAX or SFO???
Early morning rush hour. Even on the tarmac
Long Island after take-off
Takeoff and Climb
The pilots fired up the engines and we were rolling. It was a short roll and in no time we were in the air. It was a busy morning today; we turned to the left and made a 180 degree turn. Flying parallel to runway 22R, I could see the long line of planes on runway "C" waiting to get in the air. It was a smooth climb and I soon spotted Manhattan Island and La Guardia Airport!
A view of John F. Kennedy International as we turned left 180degrees after takeoff
View of midtown Manhattan
KLGA right near my house!!!
Refreshment Service
I am still very disappointed at US airlines for getting rid of meal service in economy but I can understand that it is hard to make their money. First Class gets a complimentary breakfast and we have to fork over some six dollars just to get a soggy turkey sandwich. Chips aren't even free ($2)!!! I have to say that Delta's Biscoff cookies are delicious though. I had an orange juice and the turkey croissants off Delta's new EATS menu consisting of creations by celebrity Chef Todd English. About an hour prior to landing, the flight attendants came back down the aisle with fruit and cheese plates. It was very tempting and I forked over another six bucks for the light snack. I have to say that it wasn't bad.
EATS menu for economy food purchase
Windows in the morning
Cheddar, Turkey Bacon, and Apple butter Croissant. Orange Juice. and Biscoff Cookies breakfast at at FL350
Cinnamon Raisin bagel, Cup of Coffee and Biscoff Cookies breakfast at at FL350
Fruit and Cheese plate, Peanuts, Lance Crackers, and Biscoff cookies. Pre-arrival snack.
Aircraft
Delta has refitted their trans-con 757-200's with their new touch screen PTV's. I was really expecting them again after I used them on my short flight form JFK-FLL last year. However, I realized I was in for a long flight after I realized there were no screens on the seatbacks after boarding. The safety cards in the seatback pockets stated that the aircraft was a 757-200 international configuration. Looking out my window, I noticed that this 752 was fitted with those new winglets and so was the 738 next to us. The windows could be replaced as there were a lot of scratches on the plastic. I later learned from the pilots that this aircraft started its life with TWA and was later sent to American, now it serves Delta. Very interesting!
Economy Cabin, w/o PTV's
Approach and landing
The first signs of our descent started at around the Rocky Mountain range. We passed the Grand Canyon and the Colorado River. Headed south and turned west again. Finally, I spotted houses among the desert. Flaps were lowered along with the gear shortly after. Not seeing the line of casinos anywhere, I concluded that we would be landing on the "25's". Turned out that I was right, after a smooth touchdown and a really, loud bang of some sort not knowing why and ignoring it. I saw the taxi signs, yes! 25L.
Rocky mountain range on our descent.
Colorado river i believe
Descent
Touchdown
Taxi to the Gate
We exited the runway at taxiway "A6", crossed runway 25R/ 7L and turned right onto taxiway "B". Turned left at taxiway "A4/ C4" and pulled into gate D41.
Southwest dominates the main terminal building
Deplaning
I was in the forward economy cabin and waited at my seat so I could see the captain and collect my flightlog sheet. It was only that I realized it was going to be a long time. This 752 could actually fit a lot of people as I waited for the passengers seated in the rear economy cabin to exit. Finally, I snapped a few shots and approached the cockpit. The pilots invited me in and handed me the flight log i asked the purser to hand them earlier. I thanked them and they asked me a few questions. We chatted for a bit and the captain took my picture as I sat in his seat. It was an honor. I thanked them again and exited through door 1L.
Thanks Guys!!!
Hehe
LAS Terminal
As soon as I stepped out of the gate, I laughed as I knew I was in Vegas. There were already slot machines lined up in the middle of the waiting hall. It was a long walk to the tram that connects concourse D to the rest of the airport. I seriously think they should increase the frequency of these as it was very crowded by the station. It was another long walk to the baggage claim. Utter chaos is how to describe the baggage claim area, limo drivers with signs, security officers, people waiting for relatives, little kids running amuck, and senior citizens zipping around on their power scooters. I finally found the delta baggage claim and it wasn't too long before my bags came out. My grandmother was already in a wheelchair with a really nice attendant taking care of her.
haha very clever "AIR STRIP"
WELCOME TO FABULOUS LAS VEGAS!!!
Slots Already!
More Slots
Downstairs to the baggage claim
Ground Transport
Once again, the wheelchair attendant got us to the front of the line at the taxi queue. Immediately, a yellow cab pulled up and I hopped onboard, off to the Monte Carlo and FABULOUS LAS VEGAS!!!
All in all, it was a great experience with DELTA once again and the crew was very friendly, really happy with the changes delta made with their Terminals 2 & 3 at JFK but the Las Vegas travel commission could really freshen up their services at McCarran Airport.
Flight Info
Aircraft: B-757-2Q8 ER
Registration: N710TW
Departure
Gate: 27 STD: 0800 ATD: 0758 Taxi Time: 29mins Runway:22R
Cruise Speed: 450 KTS .79 Mach FL: 380 Sector Mileage: 1994 NM Sector Flight Time: 5:13
Arrival
Gate: D41 STA: 1058 ATA: 1049
Special Thanks to
Captain Kelsch and First Officer Dearman!
Thanks for Reading!!! -Phileet92
Next Trip Report: DL TransCon JFK-LAS and LAX-JFK (Part 2)
[Edited 2008-02-23 17:35:27]
[Edited 2008-02-23 17:37:50]
Travelling is not all about the destination. its about how you get from point A to point B and everything in between.
9V-SPJ From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 740 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 30659 times:
Good report!
Yes, the wingletted aircraft are mostly for international flights, although sometimes they are rotated throughout the system. The puff of smoke you saw was the engine starting up. Delta, like most other US airlines, performs one engine taxis to save fuel. PTVs will be added to the international 757s as well as the transcon ones soon!
You should get a PTV equipped B757 from LAX though.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16247 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 30651 times:
Quoting Phileet92 (Thread starter): I am still very disappointed at US airlines for getting rid of meal service in economy but I can understand that it is hard to make their money.
CO still provides free meals at mealtime to domestic economy travelers, it helps that they are also the only US carrier to own their own inflight catering company (Chelsea).
Atrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5613 posts, RR: 54 Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 30643 times:
Great report sir!
I sure miss seeing the ex TWA planes with TWA/AA
I also was surprised to see no PTV inside the 757 for that, only because it was an ex TWA aircraft? I HAD thought all DL 757's had PTV in them, guess not.
Great pictures also!
Alex
Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
Phileet92 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 30625 times:
yea. CO has meals but they also dont have PTVs on their transcons do they??? thanks for the feed back. More are coming to cover the entire trip. i just got back from LAX today and yea the PTVs were there.
Travelling is not all about the destination. its about how you get from point A to point B and everything in between.
FrontierATL From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 43 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 30610 times:
Awesome trip report, probably one of the best I've seen. Looking forward to part 2. And thanks for all of the details and pictures.
COERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1420 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 30575 times:
Quoting Phileet92 (Reply 4): yea. CO has meals but they also dont have PTVs on their transcons do they??? thanks for the feed back. More are coming to cover the entire trip. i just got back from LAX today and yea the PTVs were there.
Phileet92 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 30478 times:
ok thanks for the corrections. i tried my best lol. 2009? thanks for the heads up
Travelling is not all about the destination. its about how you get from point A to point B and everything in between.
DLOnur From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 290 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 30389 times:
777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2402 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 29759 times:
Nice pics. The excess fuel burn off in the engine on start up is the source of the smoke (note the puff of smoke out of your tail pipe when you start your car). I have to call you on this:
Quoting Phileet92 (Thread starter): I am still very disappointed at US airlines for getting rid of meal service in economy but I can understand that it is hard to make their money.
Given your age, I have to ask how vivid is your recollection of complimentary full meal service in Y class?!
Phileet92 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 29735 times:
mediocre. i flew a lot of internationals with connections domestically when i was younger in US Y class. I also fly a lot on regional flights in Asia so i have quite a broad idea of what Y class domestic food is like. i guess......
Travelling is not all about the destination. its about how you get from point A to point B and everything in between.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16247 posts, RR: 52 Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 29700 times:
Quoting Phileet92 (Reply 4): CO has meals but they also dont have PTVs on their transcons do they???
There are CO 757-200s that fly EWR-LAX, SFO that have AVOD PTVs in economy, all 41 of CO's 757-200s will have AVOD throughout by the end of this year. Starting in 2009 CO will install PTVs with Livetv in all of their 737-700s, 737-800s, 737-900s, 737-900ERs and 757-300s.
Phileet92 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 29647 times:
NICE! ok i guess ill be flying on continental form 2009 lol. either way i still get skyteam miles!!!
Travelling is not all about the destination. its about how you get from point A to point B and everything in between.
SkyTeamTriStar From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 333 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 29606 times:
Quoting Phileet92 (Thread starter): The windows could be replaced as there were a lot of scratches on the plastic. I later learned from the pilots that this aircraft started its life with TWA and was later sent to American, now it serves Delta. Very interesting!
Really, really good pics, my friend. You did know that DL is taking 17 ships from AA, didn't you?
Phileet92 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 29568 times:
i knew from seatguru.com that DL has TWA jets but not AA. got a question. anyone know whats happening with that DL and NW merge thing? any news?
Travelling is not all about the destination. its about how you get from point A to point B and everything in between.
B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16574 posts, RR: 11 Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 29564 times:
Evan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 29527 times:
Quoting Phileet92 (Reply 15): got a question. anyone know whats happening with that DL and NW merge thing? any news?
Take a peak in the civ-av forum...
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
Ohsopc From Thailand, joined Jul 2006, 107 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 29419 times:
Quoting Phileet92 (Thread starter): For schools in the northeast, kids get a break usually in the middle of February so that they can take a break from the cold, or even enjoy it
thats not the case for me
good trip report tho... looking forward to see the next one
Phileet92 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 27574 times:
well i guess they should straighten out the arrivals area downstairs. i mean. sure enough there are slot machines all over the place but limo drivers and random people were all over the baggage claim area. i mean bags can easily be lost or stolen.
Travelling is not all about the destination. its about how you get from point A to point B and everything in between.
WN230 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 341 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 27457 times:
That was a very fun to read trip report. Very informative with very good pictures. Keep up your good work. I'll move onto parts 2 and 3.
WN230
Judas Priest North American tour in '08 . . . cannot wait!!!
BA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8258 posts, RR: 56 Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 27157 times:
Nice report and pix, thanks.
Interesting you go one of the former TWA/AA machines.
I had expected these birds to have the PTV's installed prior to entering service with DL, appears not from the thread.